I discovered today that my paid app, which I couldn't see in the
market, became visible to me once I turned off copy protection. Then
just now I found that there is a whole world of apps featured on
market.android.com that I just can't get to with my ADP 1.1 - every
single featured game on market.android.com is invisible to my phone.
I'm losing my cool here. A direct competitor to my game is sitting on
the front page and not only can I not download it to try it out, I
can't even see what they're charging.
Do I need to fork over another $400 to T-Mobile for a locked-down G1
just so that I can stay abreast of what's happening in the market?
I have, until the past few days, been rather excited about developing
more on the G1, but this feels like a rather violent slap in the face.
> I discovered today that my paid app, which I couldn't see in the
> market, became visible to me once I turned off copy protection. Then
> just now I found that there is a whole world of apps featured on
> market.android.com that I just can't get to with my ADP 1.1 - every
> single featured game on market.android.com is invisible to my phone.
> I'm losing my cool here. A direct competitor to my game is sitting on
> the front page and not only can I not download it to try it out, I
> can't even see what they're charging.
> Do I need to fork over another $400 to T-Mobile for a locked-down G1
> just so that I can stay abreast of what's happening in the market?
> I have, until the past few days, been rather excited about developing
> more on the G1, but this feels like a rather violent slap in the face.
> On Feb 22, 1:08 am, Mattaku Betsujin <mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > If you want to see your competitors, you can use crypkit:
> Apparently Cyrket doesn't show any apps that have the "copy
> protection" option turned on. I've just e-mailed saurik to ask if
> that's a known issue.
A manual update has to be provided for developers who own ADP1 all around
the world. Without these updates ADP is not going to serve its intended
purpose well. I know Googs are working on providing these updates, hope it
comes soon enough.
> I discovered today that my paid app, which I couldn't see in the
> market, became visible to me once I turned off copy protection. Then
> just now I found that there is a whole world of apps featured on
> market.android.com that I just can't get to with my ADP 1.1 - every
> single featured game on market.android.com is invisible to my phone.
> I'm losing my cool here. A direct competitor to my game is sitting on
> the front page and not only can I not download it to try it out, I
> can't even see what they're charging.
> Do I need to fork over another $400 to T-Mobile for a locked-down G1
> just so that I can stay abreast of what's happening in the market?
> I have, until the past few days, been rather excited about developing
> more on the G1, but this feels like a rather violent slap in the face.
You think you've losing your cool, try being a UK developer.
We're excited because get a launch right after the US and many of us duly go out and buy the G1, only to be told a few weeks later we could have got a ADP which was more flexible, but hey, at least we've got a device where we can get the consumer view of things, Right?
Now paid apps launch, so we prep our apps, get ready to list them, and what do we find; We can only list in British pounds even though the only customers deal in US Dollars and aren't used to doing foreign exchange conversions in their head. Oh, and can we see the comments left about our apps using an official channel, well, No. And when will this change, well, that's anyones guess and we sure as hell aren't likley to get an answer from Google who have created this mess on the market.
So we've supported the Android cause by getting a phone as soon as possible and we're now left with being able to list apps at prices the customers don't usually deal in, no official way of seeing the comments our customers are leaving, no method of looking at what other apps are on the market in our price bracket, and no idea when this will improve.
So if you think the treatment you've had was a slap in the face, I think it's best to describe UK G1 owners as having a swift hard kick in the privates.
bwilliam...@gmail.com wrote:
> I discovered today that my paid app, which I couldn't see in the
> market, became visible to me once I turned off copy protection. Then
> just now I found that there is a whole world of apps featured on
> market.android.com that I just can't get to with my ADP 1.1 - every
> single featured game on market.android.com is invisible to my phone.
> I'm losing my cool here. A direct competitor to my game is sitting on
> the front page and not only can I not download it to try it out, I
> can't even see what they're charging.
> Do I need to fork over another $400 to T-Mobile for a locked-down G1
> just so that I can stay abreast of what's happening in the market?
> I have, until the past few days, been rather excited about developing
> more on the G1, but this feels like a rather violent slap in the face.
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
> You think you've losing your cool, try being a UK developer.
> We're excited because get a launch right after the US and many of us
> duly go out and buy the G1, only to be told a few weeks later we could
> have got a ADP which was more flexible, but hey, at least we've got a
> device where we can get the consumer view of things, Right?
> Now paid apps launch, so we prep our apps, get ready to list them, and
> what do we find; We can only list in British pounds even though the only
> customers deal in US Dollars and aren't used to doing foreign exchange
> conversions in their head. Oh, and can we see the comments left about
> our apps using an official channel, well, No. And when will this change,
> well, that's anyones guess and we sure as hell aren't likley to get an
> answer from Google who have created this mess on the market.
> So we've supported the Android cause by getting a phone as soon as
> possible and we're now left with being able to list apps at prices the
> customers don't usually deal in, no official way of seeing the comments
> our customers are leaving, no method of looking at what other apps are
> on the market in our price bracket, and no idea when this will improve.
> So if you think the treatment you've had was a slap in the face, I think
> it's best to describe UK G1 owners as having a swift hard kick in the
> privates.
> Al.
> bwilliam...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I discovered today that my paid app, which I couldn't see in the
> > market, became visible to me once I turned off copy protection. Then
> > just now I found that there is a whole world of apps featured on
> > market.android.com that I just can't get to with my ADP 1.1 - every
> > single featured game on market.android.com is invisible to my phone.
> > I'm losing my cool here. A direct competitor to my game is sitting on
> > the front page and not only can I not download it to try it out, I
> > can't even see what they're charging.
> > Do I need to fork over another $400 to T-Mobile for a locked-down G1
> > just so that I can stay abreast of what's happening in the market?
> > I have, until the past few days, been rather excited about developing
> > more on the G1, but this feels like a rather violent slap in the face.
I know it's checkout because AndAppStore offers the ability to allow payments and donations via it, and if a Checkout merchant tries to accept a payment in their non-native currency the server throws back an error.
It's yet another Google half-finished solution that compared to it's competitors (PayPal being the main one) does not come out well.
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com > <mailto:a...@funkyandroid.com>> wrote:
> You think you've losing your cool, try being a UK developer.
> We're excited because get a launch right after the US and many of us
> duly go out and buy the G1, only to be told a few weeks later we could
> have got a ADP which was more flexible, but hey, at least we've got a
> device where we can get the consumer view of things, Right?
> Now paid apps launch, so we prep our apps, get ready to list them, and
> what do we find; We can only list in British pounds even though
> the only
> customers deal in US Dollars and aren't used to doing foreign exchange
> conversions in their head. Oh, and can we see the comments left about
> our apps using an official channel, well, No. And when will this
> change,
> well, that's anyones guess and we sure as hell aren't likley to get an
> answer from Google who have created this mess on the market.
> So we've supported the Android cause by getting a phone as soon as
> possible and we're now left with being able to list apps at prices the
> customers don't usually deal in, no official way of seeing the
> comments
> our customers are leaving, no method of looking at what other apps are
> on the market in our price bracket, and no idea when this will
> improve.
> So if you think the treatment you've had was a slap in the face, I
> think
> it's best to describe UK G1 owners as having a swift hard kick in the
> privates.
> Al.
> bwilliam...@gmail.com <mailto:bwilliam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I discovered today that my paid app, which I couldn't see in the
> > market, became visible to me once I turned off copy protection.
> Then
> > just now I found that there is a whole world of apps featured on
> > market.android.com <http://market.android.com> that I just can't
> get to with my ADP 1.1 - every
> > single featured game on market.android.com
> <http://market.android.com> is invisible to my phone.
> > I'm losing my cool here. A direct competitor to my game is
> sitting on
> > the front page and not only can I not download it to try it out, I
> > can't even see what they're charging.
> > Do I need to fork over another $400 to T-Mobile for a locked-down G1
> > just so that I can stay abreast of what's happening in the market?
> > I have, until the past few days, been rather excited about
> developing
> > more on the G1, but this feels like a rather violent slap in the
> face.
On Feb 22, 3:58 am, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 22, 1:08 am, Mattaku Betsujin <mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > If you want to see your competitors, you can use crypkit:
> Apparently Cyrket doesn't show any apps that have the "copy
> protection" option turned on. I've just e-mailed saurik to ask if
> that's a known issue.
Jay (saurik) at Cyrket has updated it now so that protected apps are
viewable too. (I know I posted this on the -developers list already,
but I thought I should mention it on this list too.)
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 22, 3:58 am, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 22, 1:08 am, Mattaku Betsujin <mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > If you want to see your competitors, you can use crypkit:
> > Apparently Cyrket doesn't show any apps that have the "copy
> > protection" option turned on. I've just e-mailed saurik to ask if
> > that's a known issue.
> Jay (saurik) at Cyrket has updated it now so that protected apps are
> viewable too. (I know I posted this on the -developers list already,
> but I thought I should mention it on this list too.)
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 22, 3:58 am, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 22, 1:08 am, Mattaku Betsujin <mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > If you want to see your competitors, you can use crypkit:
> > > Apparently Cyrket doesn't show any apps that have the "copy
> > > protection" option turned on. I've just e-mailed saurik to ask if
> > > that's a known issue.
> > Jay (saurik) at Cyrket has updated it now so that protected apps are
> > viewable too. (I know I posted this on the -developers list already,
> > but I thought I should mention it on this list too.)
I can't reply to my previous message (as it is still being moderated),
and nor can I retract it, but I fixed this and didn't even need the
specifics I had asked for (although Jon sent some to me anyway ;P). -J
On Feb 21, 7:58 pm, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 22, 1:08 am, Mattaku Betsujin <mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > If you want to see your competitors, you can use crypkit:
> Apparently Cyrket doesn't show any apps that have the "copy
> protection" option turned on. I've just e-mailed saurik to ask if
> that's a known issue.
The closest you are going to get on this would be Cyrket, which I'm
hearing doesn't show these "copy protected" apps :(. (This is actually
the first I've heard about this feature: I don't develop for the
Market yet.) Can someone give me an example of a specific application
that has this feature activated and where I'm supposed to see it in
the market on the device (as in: pretend I don't actually use Android
much, which is true, and tell me how to use the market application to
find the app ;P)?
Note that this might simply be an unavoidable problem of the decisions
Google has made about how to protect these applications (which I'm
pretty certain is actually impossible, its more of a cost/value
tradeoff thing: how much more difficult can you make it for people to
steal things for what development cost to protected what percentage of
what market who would have bothered to buy it instead of steal it,
etc.). In that case, I would be unable to fix it.
> Does anyone know if there is any website which show a catalog of all
> paid Android apps available on the Market?
> On Feb 21, 7:58 pm, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 22, 1:08 am, Mattaku Betsujin <mattaku.betsu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > If you want to see your competitors, you can use crypkit:
> > Apparently Cyrket doesn't show any apps that have the "copy
> > protection" option turned on. I've just e-mailed saurik to ask if
> > that's a known issue.
The same problem. And there is no ADP 1.1 . What you are using is
holiday update, but not for developers. ADP 1.1 is slowed down and
still developed...
> I discovered today that my paid app, which I couldn't see in the
> market, became visible to me once I turned off copy protection. Then
> just now I found that there is a whole world of apps featured on
> market.android.com that I just can't get to with my ADP 1.1 - every
> single featured game on market.android.com is invisible to my phone.
> I'm losing my cool here. A direct competitor to my game is sitting on
> the front page and not only can I not download it to try it out, I
> can't even see what they're charging.
> Do I need to fork over another $400 to T-Mobile for a locked-down G1
> just so that I can stay abreast of what's happening in the market?
> I have, until the past few days, been rather excited about developing
> more on the G1, but this feels like a rather violent slap in the face.
> The same problem. And there is no ADP 1.1 . What you are using is
> holiday update, but not for developers. ADP 1.1 is slowed down and
> still developed...
> On 22 Фев, 02:30, "bwilliam...@gmail.com" <bwilliam...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I discovered today that my paid app, which I couldn't see in the
>> market, became visible to me once I turned off copy protection. Then
>> just now I found that there is a whole world of apps featured on
>> market.android.com that I just can't get to with my ADP 1.1 - every
>> single featured game on market.android.com is invisible to my phone.
>> I'm losing my cool here. A direct competitor to my game is sitting on
>> the front page and not only can I not download it to try it out, I
>> can't even see what they're charging.
>> Do I need to fork over another $400 to T-Mobile for a locked-down G1
>> just so that I can stay abreast of what's happening in the market?
>> I have, until the past few days, been rather excited about developing
>> more on the G1, but this feels like a rather violent slap in the face.
-- Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
Android Engineer, Google.
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