Now that Android 1.6 is out, how soon will Google provide 800x480 and
1280x720 support for the Android Gmail client, Maps, Contacts, Talk,
Listen, Voice and more?
How soon will Google release their Google apps on http://appslib.com or on any other open URL where users of such new WVGA tablets as
Archos 5 Internet Tablet with Android can simply download the .apk and
install and use them?
When will the Google Marketplace .apk file be available for other WVGA
devices and provide the filtering of apps based on the ones that are
optimized for 800x480, those that are optimized for 1280x720, those
that work on devices with added or removed hardware features. For
example for Archos first Android tablet you would have to filter out
compass and camera apps, while you could add support for new types of
apps that can use 720p video playback, OpenGL acceleration, hard drive
storage, ARM Cortex A8 and more such hardware filterings.
1) Huh? There is no 800x480 or 1280x720 "google experience" device
requiring such.
2) They will not since THAT is what pushes organizations to sign up
and hand over a pile of $$ to google.
3) It will never happen for same reason as (2) above.
On Oct 8, 8:39 am, Charbax <char...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now that Android 1.6 is out, how soon will Google provide 800x480 and
> 1280x720 support for the Android Gmail client, Maps, Contacts, Talk,
> Listen, Voice and more?
> How soon will Google release their Google apps onhttp://appslib.com > or on any other open URL where users of such new WVGA tablets as
> Archos 5 Internet Tablet with Android can simply download the .apk and
> install and use them?
> When will the Google Marketplace .apk file be available for other WVGA
> devices and provide the filtering of apps based on the ones that are
> optimized for 800x480, those that are optimized for 1280x720, those
> that work on devices with added or removed hardware features. For
> example for Archos first Android tablet you would have to filter out
> compass and camera apps, while you could add support for new types of
> apps that can use 720p video playback, OpenGL acceleration, hard drive
> storage, ARM Cortex A8 and more such hardware filterings.
A big obstacle for anyone developing on the Archos device is that ADB
is disabled on the device making it a pain in the a** to do any
development on, but even if that was worked around Google have shown
little to no interest in providing their apps on non-Google experience
devices and according to http://www.t3.com/reviews/ipod-and-mp3-players/all-mp3-players/archos... ;
"Without a camera or a compass Google wouldn’t give the green light to
this product so don’t expect any Market Place action..."
so I wouldn't expect to see Googles apps on it any time soon.
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> Now that Android 1.6 is out, how soon will Google provide 800x480 and
> 1280x720 support for the Android Gmail client, Maps, Contacts, Talk,
> Listen, Voice and more?
> How soon will Google release their Google apps on http://appslib.com > or on any other open URL where users of such new WVGA tablets as
> Archos 5 Internet Tablet with Android can simply download the .apk and
> install and use them?
> When will the Google Marketplace .apk file be available for other WVGA
> devices and provide the filtering of apps based on the ones that are
> optimized for 800x480, those that are optimized for 1280x720, those
> that work on devices with added or removed hardware features. For
> example for Archos first Android tablet you would have to filter out
> compass and camera apps, while you could add support for new types of
> apps that can use 720p video playback, OpenGL acceleration, hard drive
> storage, ARM Cortex A8 and more such hardware filterings.
I don't believe it's Google's way of business to require
"organizations to sign up for OHA
and hand over a pile of $$".
Google's business model is for more people to have better access to
the Internet, thus see more Google ads.
Google does not charge for their apps for broad consumer use such as
Gmail, Maps, Contacts, Talk and Marketplace. All those are free apps.
T3.com does not know what they are talking about in their review.
I am posting in here because I would like to hear from someone who
knows what the status is for the Google Android apps being available
for 800x480 and 1280x720 resolution devices.
At least 800x480 is part of Android 1.6, but has anyone actually seen
the Google apps working on any prototype with that resolution.
On Oct 8, 10:25 pm, lbcoder <lbco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1) Huh? There is no 800x480 or 1280x720 "google experience" device
> requiring such.
> 2) They will not since THAT is what pushes organizations to sign up
> and hand over a pile of $$ to google.
> 3) It will never happen for same reason as (2) above.
> I don't believe it's Google's way of business to require
> "organizations to sign up for OHA
> and hand over a pile of $$".
> Google's business model is for more people to have better access to
> the Internet, thus see more Google ads.
> Google does not charge for their apps for broad consumer use such as
> Gmail, Maps, Contacts, Talk and Marketplace. All those are free apps.
> T3.com does not know what they are talking about in their review.
> I am posting in here because I would like to hear from someone who
> knows what the status is for the Google Android apps being available
> for 800x480 and 1280x720 resolution devices.
> At least 800x480 is part of Android 1.6, but has anyone actually seen
> the Google apps working on any prototype with that resolution.
> On Oct 8, 10:25 pm, lbcoder <lbco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 1) Huh? There is no 800x480 or 1280x720 "google experience" device
> > requiring such.
> > 2) They will not since THAT is what pushes organizations to sign up
> > and hand over a pile of $$ to google.
> > 3) It will never happen for same reason as (2) above.
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Charbax <char...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't believe it's Google's way of business to require
> "organizations to sign up for OHA
> and hand over a pile of $$".
> Google's business model is for more people to have better access to
> the Internet, thus see more Google ads.
> Google does not charge for their apps for broad consumer use such as
> Gmail, Maps, Contacts, Talk and Marketplace. All those are free apps.
> T3.com does not know what they are talking about in their review.
> I am posting in here because I would like to hear from someone who
> knows what the status is for the Google Android apps being available
> for 800x480 and 1280x720 resolution devices.
> At least 800x480 is part of Android 1.6, but has anyone actually seen
> the Google apps working on any prototype with that resolution.
> On Oct 8, 10:25 pm, lbcoder <lbco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 1) Huh? There is no 800x480 or 1280x720 "google experience" device
> > requiring such.
> > 2) They will not since THAT is what pushes organizations to sign up
> > and hand over a pile of $$ to google.
> > 3) It will never happen for same reason as (2) above.
Archos 5 Internet Tablet has nothing to do with hacking of firmwares
for HTC phones. Archos makes their own implementation of Android, to
be the first in the industry with 800x480 and 1280x720 Android
interfaces, Bluetooth and USB Keyboard and Mouse inputs, 720p video
playback of all codecs, flac, Ogg, On2 video codecs, Youtube HD
support.
Archos is not in the business of hacking devices for "leeching" more
bandwidth on T-Mobile's 3G network. Tethering and other such things
are disabled by T-Mobile, HTC and Google for a reason, T-Mobile
doesn't have enough bandwidth on their networks to include that in
basic Internet access bandwidth for their tiny resolution Android
phone.
If nobody in here has seen any of Gmail, Contacts, Street, Maps,
Listen, Voice and other Google apps running on any 800x480 or higher
resolution Android devices, even prototypes and beta firmwares, well
then no problem. I guess most developer who have access to that are
under strict NDAs since Chrome OS basically is all about porting the
Android OS over to higher resolution screens and bring the full Chrome
browser experience to cheap ARM Cortex A8 based devices. Archos is
just the first actual product released in the world to step into that
category of Android devices, and thus early adopters of that Archos
device will have to wait for Google to release their "Google
experience" to such this superior category of devices.
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Charbax <char...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Archos 5 Internet Tablet has nothing to do with hacking of firmwares
> for HTC phones. Archos makes their own implementation of Android, to
> be the first in the industry with 800x480 and 1280x720 Android
> interfaces, Bluetooth and USB Keyboard and Mouse inputs, 720p video
> playback of all codecs, flac, Ogg, On2 video codecs, Youtube HD
> support.
> Archos is not in the business of hacking devices for "leeching" more
> bandwidth on T-Mobile's 3G network. Tethering and other such things
> are disabled by T-Mobile, HTC and Google for a reason, T-Mobile
> doesn't have enough bandwidth on their networks to include that in
> basic Internet access bandwidth for their tiny resolution Android
> phone.
> If nobody in here has seen any of Gmail, Contacts, Street, Maps,
> Listen, Voice and other Google apps running on any 800x480 or higher
> resolution Android devices, even prototypes and beta firmwares, well
> then no problem. I guess most developer who have access to that are
> under strict NDAs since Chrome OS basically is all about porting the
> Android OS over to higher resolution screens and bring the full Chrome
> browser experience to cheap ARM Cortex A8 based devices. Archos is
> just the first actual product released in the world to step into that
> category of Android devices, and thus early adopters of that Archos
> device will have to wait for Google to release their "Google
> experience" to such this superior category of devices.
-- Romain Guy
Android framework engineer
romain...@android.com
Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time
to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on
public forums, where I and others can see and answer them
Though Android is for ARM Cortex A8, so is Chrome OS.
If the full Chrome browser (smooth, fast, stable, Flash, unlimited
tabs management and all...) is made to work on cheap ARM embedded
Linux devices thanks to the Chrome OS project, then why shouldn't that
fuller Chrome browser experience not work on the Android OS as well,
or on any other embedded Linux OS such as Ubuntu, Red Flag and others.
Also, since Chrome OS is anti-bloatware, I don't see why it couldn't
support Android style applications as well to keep costs and power
consumption low. I understand that "the web is the platform", yet
adding Android type apps support is not too much of bloat.
The official language is that "there are areas where Google Chrome OS
and Android overlap", I believe that the overlap will be larger than
some people think. Though I am sure you know best. But if you knew,
you wouldn't be allowed to really say anything about it. Google
project managers are very secretive sometimes, aren't they.
For example, I don't guess we will hear from anyone at Google deciding
about the apps support on Archos WVGA device, when and how. I guess if
anything is going on in this department, it's got to be strictly
confidential between Archos and Google directly.
On Oct 10, 10:56 pm, Romain Guy <romain...@google.com> wrote:
