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> Slidey keyboard and another different UI. But hey at least it's HVGA :)
Putting the D-pad on the slide-out keyboard (a la Nokia N810) is an interesting move.
Right now, Android apps could assume that the pointing device was available in portrait mode. If the Cliq behaves like the G1 -- changing orientation on a keyboard slide -- then the pointing device will not be available in portrait mode, since it will be on the hidden keyboard. I wonder how many apps will have problems with that.
This assumes that the ring around the home key on the phone face is just a highlight and not a second directional indicator.
> > Slidey keyboard and another different UI. But hey at least it's HVGA :)
> Putting the D-pad on the slide-out keyboard (a la Nokia N810) is an
> interesting move.
> Right now, Android apps could assume that the pointing device was
> available in portrait mode. If the Cliq behaves like the G1 -- changing
> orientation on a keyboard slide -- then the pointing device will not be
> available in portrait mode, since it will be on the hidden keyboard. I
> wonder how many apps will have problems with that.
> This assumes that the ring around the home key on the phone face is just a
> highlight and not a second directional indicator.
I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be lacking a
release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get a device
on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event hoping my
next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to come
through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot of ground to
cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
-E
On Sep 10, 11:15 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
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> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
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> subsidiaries.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be lacking a
> release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get a device
> on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event hoping my
> next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to come
> through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot of ground to
> cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
> -E
> On Sep 10, 11:15 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
>> http://ow.ly/oRc6
>> Slidey keyboard and another different UI. But hey at least it's HVGA :)
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>> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK.
>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
>> subsidiaries.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be lacking a > release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get a device > on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event hoping my > next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to come > through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot of ground to > cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
> HTC Hero on Sprint out on Oct. 11th. 3G CDMA EVDO network.
> Cliq has 256MB RAM and 512MB of ROM.
> Though the CPU is still the disappointing Qualcomm MSM7201A at 528MHz.
> Release date seems to be mid Nov or it'll be too little too late.
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be lacking a
> > release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get a device
> > on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event hoping my
> > next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to come
> > through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot of ground to
> > cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Where did you see the ROM announcement?
> -E
> On Sep 10, 1:28 pm, Hong <lordh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > HTC Hero on Sprint out on Oct. 11th. 3G CDMA EVDO network.
> > Cliq has 256MB RAM and 512MB of ROM.
> > Though the CPU is still the disappointing Qualcomm MSM7201A at 528MHz.
> > Release date seems to be mid Nov or it'll be too little too late.
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be lacking a
> > > release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get a device
> > > on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event hoping my
> > > next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to come
> > > through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot of ground to
> > > cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
And don't forget to come on down to San Diegeo for the Motodev Summit
on Oct. 6th. Shoot, even if you don't like motorola, it's an excuse
to come down to sunny San Diego.
Specifications
General
-----------------------------------------------------------
Experience Social messaging
Form Factor Side slide keyboard
Social Messaging Service MOTOBLUR
Operating System Android v1.5
Android API Level 3
Input Types 5-way navigation
Capacitive touch screen
QWERTY keyboard
Virtual keyboard
Display
-----------------------------------------------------------
Physical Resolution 320 x 480 (HVGA)
Number of Colors 64K - 262K
Pixel Density 160 dpi
Connectivity
--------------------------------------------------------------------
WAN: Voice Bands GSM 850/900/1800/1900
W-CDMA 900/(1700 or 1900)/2100
WAN: Data Bearers GPRS/EDGE Class 12
HSxPA
Wireless LAN 802.11b/g
WEP
WPA
802.11i (WPA2)
Bluetooth Version 2.0 + EDR
Bluetooth Class 2
Bluetooth Profiles A2DP
AVRCP
GAP
HFP 1.5
HSP
SDAP
SPP
USB USB 2.0 High Speed
Micro USB connector
Headset Jack 3.5 mm
Stereo out
Mic
Media
--------------------------------------------
Camera Resolution 5 megapixels
Image Capture Resolution (max) 2560 x 1920
Camera Features Autofocus
Color effects
Geotagging
White balance
Camera Digital Zoom (max) 5.4x
Image Capture Formats JPEG w/EXIF 2.2
Image Viewing Formats All Android formats
Video Recording Resolution 320 x 240 (QVGA)
Video Recording Frame Rate 25 fps
Video Recording Formats All Android formats
Video Playback Formats All Android formats
Video Playback Frame Rate 30 fps
Audio Recording Formats All Android formats
Audio Playback Formats All Android formats
Streaming Formats MPEG-4
3GP
Digital Rights Management OMA DRM 1.0 Forward Lock for images and
music
Speakers Receiver speaker
Stereo speakers
Processor and memory
Processor Qualcomm MSM7201A
Processor Clock Speed 528 MHz
RAM 256 MB
Flash ROM 512 MB
User Storage Available (max) 256 MB
Memory Card Type FAT32
microSDHC, Class 6
Memory Card Size Supported (max) 32 GB
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Where did you see the ROM announcement?
> > -E
> > On Sep 10, 1:28 pm, Hong <lordh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > HTC Hero on Sprint out on Oct. 11th. 3G CDMA EVDO network.
> > > Cliq has 256MB RAM and 512MB of ROM.
> > > Though the CPU is still the disappointing Qualcomm MSM7201A at 528MHz.
> > > Release date seems to be mid Nov or it'll be too little too late.
> > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be lacking a
> > > > release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get a device
> > > > on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event hoping my
> > > > next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to come
> > > > through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot of ground to
> > > > cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
I don't understand the hardware buttons and I don't see them described
anywhere on the website.
The rightmost one is clearly back. The middle one is home (but what's the
coloured ring? the LED indicator?). The left button looks like it might be
for choosing applications, maybe, I don't know.
The thing I find most intriguing is that the hardware buttons for initiating
and terminating calls seem to have moved to the homescreen. This surely has
implications for replacement homescreens.
> ======
> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK.
> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> subsidiaries.
Interesting, an 18 bit display? I'm largely ignorant of phone hardware
characteristics (but am learning) and this seems like an unusual bit depth,
and isn't directly supported by skia (in cupcake anyway).
Tom
> And don't forget to come on down to San Diegeo for the Motodev Summit
> on Oct. 6th. Shoot, even if you don't like motorola, it's an excuse
> to come down to sunny San Diego.
> Specifications
> General
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Experience Social messaging
> Form Factor Side slide keyboard
> Social Messaging Service MOTOBLUR
> Operating System Android v1.5
> Android API Level 3
> Input Types 5-way navigation
> Capacitive touch screen
> QWERTY keyboard
> Virtual keyboard
> Display
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Physical Resolution 320 x 480 (HVGA)
> Number of Colors 64K - 262K
> Pixel Density 160 dpi
> Connectivity
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> WAN: Voice Bands GSM 850/900/1800/1900
> W-CDMA 900/(1700 or 1900)/2100
> WAN: Data Bearers GPRS/EDGE Class 12
> HSxPA
> Wireless LAN 802.11b/g
> WEP
> WPA
> 802.11i (WPA2)
> Bluetooth Version 2.0 + EDR
> Bluetooth Class 2
> Bluetooth Profiles A2DP
> AVRCP
> GAP
> HFP 1.5
> HSP
> SDAP
> SPP
> USB USB 2.0 High Speed
> Micro USB connector
> Headset Jack 3.5 mm
> Stereo out
> Mic
> Media
> --------------------------------------------
> Camera Resolution 5 megapixels
> Image Capture Resolution (max) 2560 x 1920
> Camera Features Autofocus
> Color effects
> Geotagging
> White balance
> Camera Digital Zoom (max) 5.4x
> Image Capture Formats JPEG w/EXIF 2.2
> Image Viewing Formats All Android formats
> Video Recording Resolution 320 x 240 (QVGA)
> Video Recording Frame Rate 25 fps
> Video Recording Formats All Android formats
> Video Playback Formats All Android formats
> Video Playback Frame Rate 30 fps
> Audio Recording Formats All Android formats
> Audio Playback Formats All Android formats
> Streaming Formats MPEG-4
> 3GP
> Digital Rights Management OMA DRM 1.0 Forward Lock for images and
> music
> Speakers Receiver speaker
> Stereo speakers
> Processor and memory
> Processor Qualcomm MSM7201A
> Processor Clock Speed 528 MHz
> RAM 256 MB
> Flash ROM 512 MB
> User Storage Available (max) 256 MB
> Memory Card Type FAT32
> microSDHC, Class 6
> Memory Card Size Supported (max) 32 GB
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Where did you see the ROM announcement?
> > > -E
> > > On Sep 10, 1:28 pm, Hong <lordh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > HTC Hero on Sprint out on Oct. 11th. 3G CDMA EVDO network.
> > > > Cliq has 256MB RAM and 512MB of ROM.
> > > > Though the CPU is still the disappointing Qualcomm MSM7201A at
> 528MHz.
> > > > Release date seems to be mid Nov or it'll be too little too late.
> > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be lacking a
> > > > > release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get a
> device
> > > > > on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event hoping
> my
> > > > > next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to come
> > > > > through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot of ground
> to
> > > > > cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
> Interesting, an 18 bit display? I'm largely ignorant of phone hardware
> characteristics (but am learning) and this seems like an unusual bit depth,
> and isn't directly supported by skia (in cupcake anyway).
> Tom
> > And don't forget to come on down to San Diegeo for the Motodev Summit
> > on Oct. 6th. Shoot, even if you don't like motorola, it's an excuse
> > to come down to sunny San Diego.
> > Specifications
> > General
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > Experience Social messaging
> > Form Factor Side slide keyboard
> > Social Messaging Service MOTOBLUR
> > Operating System Android v1.5
> > Android API Level 3
> > Input Types 5-way navigation
> > Capacitive touch screen
> > QWERTY keyboard
> > Virtual keyboard
> > Display
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > Physical Resolution 320 x 480 (HVGA)
> > Number of Colors 64K - 262K
> > Pixel Density 160 dpi
> > Connectivity
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > WAN: Voice Bands GSM 850/900/1800/1900
> > W-CDMA 900/(1700 or 1900)/2100
> > WAN: Data Bearers GPRS/EDGE Class 12
> > HSxPA
> > Wireless LAN 802.11b/g
> > WEP
> > WPA
> > 802.11i (WPA2)
> > Bluetooth Version 2.0 + EDR
> > Bluetooth Class 2
> > Bluetooth Profiles A2DP
> > AVRCP
> > GAP
> > HFP 1.5
> > HSP
> > SDAP
> > SPP
> > USB USB 2.0 High Speed
> > Micro USB connector
> > Headset Jack 3.5 mm
> > Stereo out
> > Mic
> > Media
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Camera Resolution 5 megapixels
> > Image Capture Resolution (max) 2560 x 1920
> > Camera Features Autofocus
> > Color effects
> > Geotagging
> > White balance
> > Camera Digital Zoom (max) 5.4x
> > Image Capture Formats JPEG w/EXIF 2.2
> > Image Viewing Formats All Android formats
> > Video Recording Resolution 320 x 240 (QVGA)
> > Video Recording Frame Rate 25 fps
> > Video Recording Formats All Android formats
> > Video Playback Formats All Android formats
> > Video Playback Frame Rate 30 fps
> > Audio Recording Formats All Android formats
> > Audio Playback Formats All Android formats
> > Streaming Formats MPEG-4
> > 3GP
> > Digital Rights Management OMA DRM 1.0 Forward Lock for images and
> > music
> > Speakers Receiver speaker
> > Stereo speakers
> > Processor and memory
> > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Where did you see the ROM announcement?
> > > > -E
> > > > On Sep 10, 1:28 pm, Hong <lordh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > HTC Hero on Sprint out on Oct. 11th. 3G CDMA EVDO network.
> > > > > Cliq has 256MB RAM and 512MB of ROM.
> > > > > Though the CPU is still the disappointing Qualcomm MSM7201A at
> > 528MHz.
> > > > > Release date seems to be mid Nov or it'll be too little too late.
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be lacking a
> > > > > > release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get a
> > device
> > > > > > on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event hoping
> > my
> > > > > > next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to come
> > > > > > through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot of ground
> > to
> > > > > > cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
<irony>Does Moto offer free developer devices to test that out?</
irony>
The vast majority of apps will not receive any "adjustment", safe some
exceptions with deep pockets that can justify the expense. Not that I
couldn't swing it, but I just don't see how I would justify the
purchase of any of the devices. Already we should stack up on a
Samsung Galaxy to accommodate the wacked sensor inputs.
Note to manufacturers: Keep devices compatible if you have any intent
to leverage apps into moving units.
On Sep 10, 12:45 pm, Hong <lordh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Slidey keyboard and another different UI. But hey at least it's HVGA :)
> > Putting the D-pad on the slide-out keyboard (a la Nokia N810) is an
> > interesting move.
> > Right now, Android apps could assume that the pointing device was
> > available in portrait mode. If the Cliq behaves like the G1 -- changing
> > orientation on a keyboard slide -- then the pointing device will not be
> > available in portrait mode, since it will be on the hidden keyboard. I
> > wonder how many apps will have problems with that.
> > This assumes that the ring around the home key on the phone face is just a
> > highlight and not a second directional indicator.
Shame on me I just checked that clip as well.
The lady explained that they "spent a ton of time with the developer
ecosystem to allow developers target Motorola devices". I suppose I
missed out on that (;->).
Can someone help me out what she's talking about?
On Sep 10, 4:11 pm, Jeff <j...@trackaroo.com> wrote:
> Just watched a phonedog.com video on it. It doesn't have pinch zoom
> like HTC Hero (and iPhone). Also, no mention of flash support like
> HTC hero.
> On Sep 10, 3:40 pm, Tom Gibara <m...@tomgibara.com> wrote:
> > Interesting, an 18 bit display? I'm largely ignorant of phone hardware
> > characteristics (but am learning) and this seems like an unusual bit depth,
> > and isn't directly supported by skia (in cupcake anyway).
> > Tom
> > > And don't forget to come on down to San Diegeo for the Motodev Summit
> > > on Oct. 6th. Shoot, even if you don't like motorola, it's an excuse
> > > to come down to sunny San Diego.
> > > Specifications
> > > General
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > Experience Social messaging
> > > Form Factor Side slide keyboard
> > > Social Messaging Service MOTOBLUR
> > > Operating System Android v1.5
> > > Android API Level 3
> > > Input Types 5-way navigation
> > > Capacitive touch screen
> > > QWERTY keyboard
> > > Virtual keyboard
> > > Display
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > Physical Resolution 320 x 480 (HVGA)
> > > Number of Colors 64K - 262K
> > > Pixel Density 160 dpi
> > > Connectivity
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > WAN: Voice Bands GSM 850/900/1800/1900
> > > W-CDMA 900/(1700 or 1900)/2100
> > > WAN: Data Bearers GPRS/EDGE Class 12
> > > HSxPA
> > > Wireless LAN 802.11b/g
> > > WEP
> > > WPA
> > > 802.11i (WPA2)
> > > Bluetooth Version 2.0 + EDR
> > > Bluetooth Class 2
> > > Bluetooth Profiles A2DP
> > > AVRCP
> > > GAP
> > > HFP 1.5
> > > HSP
> > > SDAP
> > > SPP
> > > USB USB 2.0 High Speed
> > > Micro USB connector
> > > Headset Jack 3.5 mm
> > > Stereo out
> > > Mic
> > > Media
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > Camera Resolution 5 megapixels
> > > Image Capture Resolution (max) 2560 x 1920
> > > Camera Features Autofocus
> > > Color effects
> > > Geotagging
> > > White balance
> > > Camera Digital Zoom (max) 5.4x
> > > Image Capture Formats JPEG w/EXIF 2.2
> > > Image Viewing Formats All Android formats
> > > Video Recording Resolution 320 x 240 (QVGA)
> > > Video Recording Frame Rate 25 fps
> > > Video Recording Formats All Android formats
> > > Video Playback Formats All Android formats
> > > Video Playback Frame Rate 30 fps
> > > Audio Recording Formats All Android formats
> > > Audio Playback Formats All Android formats
> > > Streaming Formats MPEG-4
> > > 3GP
> > > Digital Rights Management OMA DRM 1.0 Forward Lock for images and
> > > music
> > > Speakers Receiver speaker
> > > Stereo speakers
> > > Processor and memory
> > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Where did you see the ROM announcement?
> > > > > -E
> > > > > On Sep 10, 1:28 pm, Hong <lordh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > HTC Hero on Sprint out on Oct. 11th. 3G CDMA EVDO network.
> > > > > > Cliq has 256MB RAM and 512MB of ROM.
> > > > > > Though the CPU is still the disappointing Qualcomm MSM7201A at
> > > 528MHz.
> > > > > > Release date seems to be mid Nov or it'll be too little too late.
> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be lacking a
> > > > > > > release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get a
> > > device
> > > > > > > on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event hoping
> > > my
> > > > > > > next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to come
> > > > > > > through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot of ground
> > > to
> > > > > > > cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
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-----Original Message-----
From: android-discuss@googlegroups.com [mailto:android-discuss@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JoaJP
Sent: 11 September 2009 05:56
To: Android Discuss
Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Motorola cliq with Motoblur
Shame on me I just checked that clip as well.
The lady explained that they "spent a ton of time with the developer
ecosystem to allow developers target Motorola devices". I suppose I
missed out on that (;->).
Can someone help me out what she's talking about?
On Sep 10, 4:11 pm, Jeff <j...@trackaroo.com> wrote:
> Just watched a phonedog.com video on it. It doesn't have pinch zoom
> like HTC Hero (and iPhone). Also, no mention of flash support like
> HTC hero.
> On Sep 10, 3:40 pm, Tom Gibara <m...@tomgibara.com> wrote:
> > Interesting, an 18 bit display? I'm largely ignorant of phone hardware
> > characteristics (but am learning) and this seems like an unusual bit depth,
> > and isn't directly supported by skia (in cupcake anyway).
> > Tom
> > > And don't forget to come on down to San Diegeo for the Motodev Summit
> > > on Oct. 6th. Shoot, even if you don't like motorola, it's an excuse
> > > to come down to sunny San Diego.
> > > Specifications
> > > General
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > Experience Social messaging
> > > Form Factor Side slide keyboard
> > > Social Messaging Service MOTOBLURT
> > > Operating System Android v1.5
> > > Android API Level 3
> > > Input Types 5-way navigation
> > > Capacitive touch screen
> > > QWERTY keyboard
> > > Virtual keyboard
> > > Display
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > Physical Resolution 320 x 480 (HVGA)
> > > Number of Colors 64K - 262K
> > > Pixel Density 160 dpi
> > > Connectivity
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > WAN: Voice Bands GSM 850/900/1800/1900
> > > W-CDMA 900/(1700 or 1900)/2100
> > > WAN: Data Bearers GPRS/EDGE Class 12
> > > HSxPA
> > > Wireless LAN 802.11b/g
> > > WEP
> > > WPA
> > > 802.11i (WPA2)
> > > Bluetooth Version 2.0 + EDR
> > > Bluetooth Class 2
> > > Bluetooth Profiles A2DP
> > > AVRCP
> > > GAP
> > > HFP 1.5
> > > HSP
> > > SDAP
> > > SPP
> > > USB USB 2.0 High Speed
> > > Micro USB connector
> > > Headset Jack 3.5 mm
> > > Stereo out
> > > Mic
> > > Media
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > Camera Resolution 5 megapixels
> > > Image Capture Resolution (max) 2560 x 1920
> > > Camera Features Autofocus
> > > Color effects
> > > Geotagging
> > > White balance
> > > Camera Digital Zoom (max) 5.4x
> > > Image Capture Formats JPEG w/EXIF 2.2
> > > Image Viewing Formats All Android formats
> > > Video Recording Resolution 320 x 240 (QVGA)
> > > Video Recording Frame Rate 25 fps
> > > Video Recording Formats All Android formats
> > > Video Playback Formats All Android formats
> > > Video Playback Frame Rate 30 fps
> > > Audio Recording Formats All Android formats
> > > Audio Playback Formats All Android formats
> > > Streaming Formats MPEG-4
> > > 3GP
> > > Digital Rights Management OMA DRM 1.0 Forward Lock for images and
> > > music
> > > Speakers Receiver speaker
> > > Stereo speakers
> > > Processor and memory
> > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Where did you see the ROM announcement?
> > > > > -E
> > > > > On Sep 10, 1:28 pm, Hong <lordh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > HTC Hero on Sprint out on Oct. 11th. 3G CDMA EVDO network.
> > > > > > Cliq has 256MB RAM and 512MB of ROM.
> > > > > > Though the CPU is still the disappointing Qualcomm MSM7201A at
> > > 528MHz.
> > > > > > Release date seems to be mid Nov or it'll be too little too late.
> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be lacking a
> > > > > > > release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get a
> > > device
> > > > > > > on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event hoping
> > > my
> > > > > > > next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to come
> > > > > > > through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot of ground
> > > to
> > > > > > > cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
I checked out Motodev Studio a few weeks back. I found a collection of
tools pulled together from other sources, repackaged and flying under
the Motorola banner.
But wait - NEW and IMPROVED. By submitting an email address one can
apply for "10 testing hours for FREE" over at DeviceAnywhere. Beets
the three hours you get directly on their web site, I guess. I have to
admit this reminds me of those CDs that AOL used to send around...
Well somebody's got to sell the Oxyclean, I guess.
On Sep 10, 10:30 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
> ======
> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK.
> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> subsidiaries.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: android-discuss@googlegroups.com [mailto:android-discuss@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JoaJP
> Sent: 11 September 2009 05:56
> To: Android Discuss
> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Motorola cliq with Motoblur
> Shame on me I just checked that clip as well.
> The lady explained that they "spent a ton of time with the developer
> ecosystem to allow developers target Motorola devices". I suppose I
> missed out on that (;->).
> Can someone help me out what she's talking about?
> On Sep 10, 4:11 pm, Jeff <j...@trackaroo.com> wrote:
> > Just watched a phonedog.com video on it. It doesn't have pinch zoom
> > like HTC Hero (and iPhone). Also, no mention of flash support like
> > HTC hero.
> > On Sep 10, 3:40 pm, Tom Gibara <m...@tomgibara.com> wrote:
> > > Interesting, an 18 bit display? I'm largely ignorant of phone hardware
> > > characteristics (but am learning) and this seems like an unusual bit depth,
> > > and isn't directly supported by skia (in cupcake anyway).
> > > Tom
> > > > And don't forget to come on down to San Diegeo for the Motodev Summit
> > > > on Oct. 6th. Shoot, even if you don't like motorola, it's an excuse
> > > > to come down to sunny San Diego.
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Where did you see the ROM announcement?
> > > > > > -E
> > > > > > On Sep 10, 1:28 pm, Hong <lordh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > HTC Hero on Sprint out on Oct. 11th. 3G CDMA EVDO network.
> > > > > > > Cliq has 256MB RAM and 512MB of ROM.
> > > > > > > Though the CPU is still the disappointing Qualcomm MSM7201A at
> > > > 528MHz.
> > > > > > > Release date seems to be mid Nov or it'll be too little too late.
> > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be lacking a
> > > > > > > > release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get a
> > > > device
> > > > > > > > on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event hoping
> > > > my
> > > > > > > > next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to come
> > > > > > > > through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot of ground
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:54 AM, JoaJP <joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I checked out Motodev Studio a few weeks back. I found a collection of
> tools pulled together from other sources, repackaged and flying under
> the Motorola banner.
> But wait - NEW and IMPROVED. By submitting an email address one can
> apply for "10 testing hours for FREE" over at DeviceAnywhere. Beets
> the three hours you get directly on their web site, I guess. I have to
> admit this reminds me of those CDs that AOL used to send around...
> Well somebody's got to sell the Oxyclean, I guess.
> On Sep 10, 10:30 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
> > In a word : Motodev
> > ======
> > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> > company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> > 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK.
> > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> > subsidiaries.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: android-discuss@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> android-discuss@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of JoaJP
> > Sent: 11 September 2009 05:56
> > To: Android Discuss
> > Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Motorola cliq with Motoblur
> > Shame on me I just checked that clip as well.
> > The lady explained that they "spent a ton of time with the developer
> > ecosystem to allow developers target Motorola devices". I suppose I
> > missed out on that (;->).
> > Can someone help me out what she's talking about?
> > On Sep 10, 4:11 pm, Jeff <j...@trackaroo.com> wrote:
> > > Just watched a phonedog.com video on it. It doesn't have pinch zoom
> > > like HTC Hero (and iPhone). Also, no mention of flash support like
> > > HTC hero.
> > > On Sep 10, 3:40 pm, Tom Gibara <m...@tomgibara.com> wrote:
> > > > Interesting, an 18 bit display? I'm largely ignorant of phone
> hardware
> > > > characteristics (but am learning) and this seems like an unusual bit
> depth,
> > > > and isn't directly supported by skia (in cupcake anyway).
> > > > Tom
> > > > > And don't forget to come on down to San Diegeo for the Motodev
> Summit
> > > > > on Oct. 6th. Shoot, even if you don't like motorola, it's an
> excuse
> > > > > to come down to sunny San Diego.
> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Eric F <ericfrie...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > Where did you see the ROM announcement?
> > > > > > > -E
> > > > > > > On Sep 10, 1:28 pm, Hong <lordh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > HTC Hero on Sprint out on Oct. 11th. 3G CDMA EVDO network.
> > > > > > > > Cliq has 256MB RAM and 512MB of ROM.
> > > > > > > > Though the CPU is still the disappointing Qualcomm MSM7201A
> at
> > > > > 528MHz.
> > > > > > > > Release date seems to be mid Nov or it'll be too little too
> late.
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Eric F <
> ericfrie...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I wonder if the CLIQ has 256MB of ROM. Also seems to be
> lacking a
> > > > > > > > > release date and Donut. And T-Mobile? Why can't Android get
> a
> > > > > device
> > > > > > > > > on a real 3G network here. I was holding out for this event
> hoping
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > next cell phone would get announced. If Andy Rubin wants to
> come
> > > > > > > > > through on his 18 new phones this year. He sure has a lot
> of ground
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > cover, and it looks like Motorola will provide one at most.
Mark,
The D pad issue can be lifted off of the product demos. Who ever found
that from only looking at the video is pretty sharp... I typically
don't start putting in the effort until I have some hardware or at
least a serious emulator in my hands. Once the devices roll out I am
sure more issues will pop up. I might walk down to the T-Mobile store
one of the days and check one out, if they let me, just for laughs.
It's the principle that makes me wonder. It's lost on me how virtual
test environments are sufficient to support testing nowadays, where a
good rate of the apps rely on sensor inputs and where timing is key.
So, rhetorically asking, what's the approach, beyond that? That devs
buy all the shiny toys can't quite be the answer. Or can we factor
that into charging for apps (uhum).
On Sep 11, 5:49 am, Mark Murphy <mmur...@commonsware.com> wrote:
> JoaJP wrote:
> > The vast majority of apps will not receive any "adjustment", safe some
> > exceptions with deep pockets that can justify the expense.
> For the Cliq's D-pad, I suspect that the vast majority of apps will not
> need changing.
I be interested for someone to report back on the actual useability of
the virtual test environment.
Particularly -
* opening, closing physical keyboard
* display using the touchscreen (including multi-touch) various
gestures, swiping etc
* switching through the various orientations
* compass, accelerometer pitch and roll - ie moving the phone around
in 3d
* camera, taking (real) pictures and video
* audio, both record and playback and voice dialing, search
* gps
* the proximity sensor and light sensors
I think they would need some very fancy robotics to accomodate a lot
of this, else a lot of emulation which sort of defeats the purpose.
Regards
PS I wonder if the CPU is pegged at 384mhz like the G1, hope there is
a better heat/power budget, so you can actually use 528mhz
On Sep 11, 11:34 pm, JoaJP <joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mark,
> The D pad issue can be lifted off of the product demos. Who ever found
> that from only looking at the video is pretty sharp... I typically
> don't start putting in the effort until I have some hardware or at
> least a serious emulator in my hands. Once the devices roll out I am
> sure more issues will pop up. I might walk down to the T-Mobile store
> one of the days and check one out, if they let me, just for laughs.
> It's the principle that makes me wonder. It's lost on me how virtual
> test environments are sufficient to support testing nowadays, where a
> good rate of the apps rely on sensor inputs and where timing is key.
> So, rhetorically asking, what's the approach, beyond that? That devs
> buy all the shiny toys can't quite be the answer. Or can we factor
> that into charging for apps (uhum).
> On Sep 11, 5:49 am, Mark Murphy <mmur...@commonsware.com> wrote:
> > JoaJP wrote:
> > > The vast majority of apps will not receive any "adjustment", safe some
> > > exceptions with deep pockets that can justify the expense.
> > For the Cliq's D-pad, I suspect that the vast majority of apps will not
> > need changing.
I've tried DeviceAnywhere. If you want to do anything outlined in your
message, I would suggest to get a real device.
For example, the device is in their lab, it's not moving, so no actual
moving GPS location.
Sensors, gestures, etc., not much you can do virtually.
As for the CPU, what I heard is that it's at full 528MHz.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:05 PM, gjs <garyjamessi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
> I be interested for someone to report back on the actual useability of
> the virtual test environment.
> Particularly -
> * opening, closing physical keyboard
> * display using the touchscreen (including multi-touch) various
> gestures, swiping etc
> * switching through the various orientations
> * compass, accelerometer pitch and roll - ie moving the phone around
> in 3d
> * camera, taking (real) pictures and video
> * audio, both record and playback and voice dialing, search
> * gps
> * the proximity sensor and light sensors
> I think they would need some very fancy robotics to accomodate a lot
> of this, else a lot of emulation which sort of defeats the purpose.
> Regards
> PS I wonder if the CPU is pegged at 384mhz like the G1, hope there is
> a better heat/power budget, so you can actually use 528mhz
> On Sep 11, 11:34 pm, JoaJP <joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Mark,
> > The D pad issue can be lifted off of the product demos. Who ever found
> > that from only looking at the video is pretty sharp... I typically
> > don't start putting in the effort until I have some hardware or at
> > least a serious emulator in my hands. Once the devices roll out I am
> > sure more issues will pop up. I might walk down to the T-Mobile store
> > one of the days and check one out, if they let me, just for laughs.
> > It's the principle that makes me wonder. It's lost on me how virtual
> > test environments are sufficient to support testing nowadays, where a
> > good rate of the apps rely on sensor inputs and where timing is key.
> > So, rhetorically asking, what's the approach, beyond that? That devs
> > buy all the shiny toys can't quite be the answer. Or can we factor
> > that into charging for apps (uhum).
> > On Sep 11, 5:49 am, Mark Murphy <mmur...@commonsware.com> wrote:
> > > JoaJP wrote:
> > > > The vast majority of apps will not receive any "adjustment", safe
> some
> > > > exceptions with deep pockets that can justify the expense.
> > > For the Cliq's D-pad, I suspect that the vast majority of apps will not
> > > need changing.
