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Nexus 7 has no menu button?
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:07:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Keith Wiley <kbwi...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [android-developers] Re: Nexus 7 has no menu button?
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Thanks. Either Shead Spreet Lite or WildSpectra Mobile Lite. Since boths=
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apps are built using a similar overall approach to the OS, testing either=
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should reveal the situation for both apps simultaneously.
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:53:31 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:
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> Yeah what is the app name, I might have access to a nexus 7. I do have=20
> access to a 4.0 tablet that does not have any hard menu keys. I=E2=80=99d=
be happy=20
> to take a look and see if I can find the menu. I would consider myself an=
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> above average user who should be able to find the menu if it really is=20
> there hidden someplace J
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> *From:* android-d...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> [mailto:
> android-d...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *Francisco=20
> Marzoa
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:46 PM
> *To:* android-d...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>
> *Subject:* Re: [android-developers] Re: Nexus 7 has no menu button?
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> What's your app? Is on Google play?
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> On Sep 19, 2012 11:36 PM, "Keith Wiley" <kbw...@gmail.com <javascript:>>=
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> wrote:
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> Well, that's fair. I'm not denying the the current release is a little=
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> old and targets older SDKs. The app could certainly benefit from some=20
> sprucing up. However, I wanted to verify whether the app *should*=20
> essentially work on modern hardware given that some users were emailing m=
e=20
> saying they didn't know how to access the menus. There's a big differenc=
e=20
> between saying I ought to update my app when I get a chance to keep thing=
s=20
> smooth and modern and saying the app is effectively broken on modern=20
> hardware and won't work until I release an emergency patch to get it goi=
ng=20
> again.
>
> I was just trying to get a better picture of the circumstances. I *think=
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> this discussion has cleared it up, and I *think* my app should be working=
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> on modern devices, albeit through an OS sidedoor meant as a temporary fix=
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> until older apps are updated. I'll have to try to find a Nexus to test i=
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> on myself to be absolutely certain of the circumstances.
>
> Thanks again.
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> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:27:36 PM UTC-7, Fran wrote:
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> What Mark said is that you did things the "standard" way, users without=
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> hard menu button will see a soft one. But if you did it another way, it=
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> won't be shown.
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> So you should update your app.
>
> On Sep 19, 2012 11:08 PM, "Keith Wiley" <kbw...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:58:42 PM UTC-7, bob wrote:
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> *Many of the latest Android devices have eliminated the hard menu key=20
> found on earlier hardware. Consequently, it's now the responsibility of a=
pp=20
> developers to include soft menu keys in their apps. *
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> =20
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> Um, forgive me, but this response seems fundamentally at odds with Mark's=
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> initial response.
>
> Which response is closer to the correct answer? Is my app inherently=20
> broken on such devices or not?
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> Thank you.=20
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Thanks. Either Shead Spreet Lite or WildSpectra Mobile Lite. Si=
nce boths apps are built using a similar overall approach to the OS, testin=
g either should reveal the situation for both apps simultaneously.<br><br>O=
n Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:53:31 PM UTC-7, Tommy wrote:<blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px=
#ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D=
"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Yeah what is=
the app name, I might have access to a nexus 7. I do have access to a 4.0 =
tablet that does not have any hard menu keys. I=E2=80=99d be happy to take =
a look and see if I can find the menu. I would consider myself an above ave=
rage user who should be able to find the menu if it really is there hidden =
someplace </span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;colo=
r:#1f497d">J</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibr=
i","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","=
sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-s=
erif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"=
_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"4Lsri3BHNoAJ">android-d...@<wbr>googlegrou=
ps.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated=
-mailto=3D"4Lsri3BHNoAJ">android-d...@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a>] <b>On Beha=
lf Of </b>Francisco Marzoa<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:=
46 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscate=
d-mailto=3D"4Lsri3BHNoAJ">android-d...@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a><br><b>Subj=
ect:</b> Re: [android-developers] Re: Nexus 7 has no menu button?</span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p><p>What's your app? Is on Google play?</p=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sep 19, 2012 11:36 PM, "Keith Wiley" <<a=
href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"4Lsri3BHNo=
AJ">kbw...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Well, that's =
fair. I'm not denying the the current release is a little old and tar=
gets older SDKs. The app could certainly benefit from some sprucing u=
p. However, I wanted to verify whether the app *should* essentially w=
ork on modern hardware given that some users were emailing me saying they d=
idn't know how to access the menus. There's a big difference between =
saying I ought to update my app when I get a chance to keep things smooth a=
nd modern and saying the app is effectively broken on modern hardware and w=
on't work until I release an emergency patch to get it going again.<b=
r><br>I was just trying to get a better picture of the circumstances. =
I *think* this discussion has cleared it up, and I *think* my app should b=
e working on modern devices, albeit through an OS sidedoor meant as a tempo=
rary fix until older apps are updated. I'll have to try to find a Nex=
us to test it on myself to be absolutely certain of the circumstances.<br><=
br>Thanks again.<br><br>On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:27:36 PM UTC-7, =
Fran wrote:</p><p>What Mark said is that you did things the "standard" way,=
users without hard menu button will see a soft one. But if you did it anot=
her way, it won't be shown.</p><p>So you should update your app.</p><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sep 19, 2012 11:08 PM, "Keith Wiley" <<a>kbw...@=
gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br>On Wednesday, Se=
ptember 19, 2012 1:58:42 PM UTC-7, bob wrote:</p><blockquote style=3D"borde=
r:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-lef=
t:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333;background:#e=
2f4f8">Many of the latest Android devices have eliminated the hard menu key=
found on earlier hardware. Consequently, it's now the responsibility of ap=
p developers to include soft menu keys in their apps. </span></i></b><=
/p></blockquote><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><br>Um, forgive me, but this response seems fundamentally at=
odds with Mark's initial response.<br><br>Which response is closer to the =
correct answer? Is my app inherently broken on such devices or not?<b=
r><br>Thank you. </p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- </p></div><=
/div></div></blockquote>
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