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Marc Seeger  
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From: Marc Seeger <m...@marc-seeger.de>
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:13:03 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 6 2008 5:13 am
Subject: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
Hi,
I'm really interested in the possibility of buying a "Android Dev
Phone 1 " (--> http://code.google.com/android/dev-devices.html), the
only question I have concerns the shipping.
According to the site, it will be (?is?) available for order in
Germany, I can't find any information about the details though.
The price seems fair, but adding VAT + Import Taxes would add a BIG
amount of money to the final number (and a lot of hassle).

Does Google ship all of its devices from the US or are devices for
European Devs shipped from inside the EU?


 
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Justin (Google Employee)  
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From: "Justin (Google Employee)" <j...@google.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 09:53:54 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 7 2008 12:53 pm
Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
Any appropriate customs duties and taxes will be added on top of the
$399 purchase price. You are correct, that this can add a substantial
the base price. However, it should not add any hassle. Is there some
specific difficulty you're referring to?

Cheers,
Justin
Android Team @ Google

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Christine  
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From: Christine <christine.kar...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:52:45 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 7 2008 6:52 pm
Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
In my experience, it depends on what Google puts in the shipping
papers, what UPS tells the people at Customs and the mood of the
people at Customs. Sometimes you pay nothing, sometimes you pay taxes
of various kinds. I suggest Google should write "free sample, $399
administrative cost".

:-)

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walterc  
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From: walterc <weih...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 18:35:52 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 7 2008 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
i placed an order for the phone and all i got in return is an email
telling me my order has been placed.  there is no ups tracking number,
no estimate time of arrival, no nothing.  is there a email i can write
to to check the status of my order?  i tried to click on the tracking
order link in android market but it tells me i dont have any pending
order.  i live in taiwan, btw, and the total amount with shipping is us
$555 and that's probably without import tax.  you who live in the us
should consider urselves lucky.

regards,

walter chang

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roland  
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From: roland <roland...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 05:03:50 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
Just checked the shipping fee to France, it costs 180 USD!!! It is
almost the half of the price of device.

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blindfold  
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From: blindfold <seeingwithso...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 05:37:28 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 8 2008 8:37 am
Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
To The Netherlands "shipping and handling" is $178.90. I even got a
phone call from the fraud prevention team of my credit card's bank
today, because they apparently found it a suspicious transaction.
Well, hopefully I'll now have a functional G1 soon.

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GasBot  
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 More options Dec 8 2008, 10:42 am
From: GasBot <ch...@gasbot.net>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 07:42:50 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
For all you people overseas, you can always send me $550USD and I'll
ship it to you however you'd like so that you don't get charged all
the import taxes. :D

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walterc  
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 08:05:14 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
just curious:  did anyone who ordered the dev phone receive a ups
tracking number?  is there anyway to know the progress of our orders?
all i received was a email telling me my order was placed and an order
number which i dont really know what to do with (its not a ups
tracking number).  any ideas?

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Eugene Andres  
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From: Eugene Andres <eandr...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:21:45 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 7 2008 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
I just tried to buy one Android Dev Phone for Spain, but when checking
out it wanted to charge me $170 shipping (UPS Innovations (Tracking) -
$170.14) with no alternative shipping method. I cancelled it, of
course. What kind of shipping could be *that* expensive? It's just
unacceptable for something that can weigh maybe 1KG at most. Not even
with insurance and any kind of "special delivery" could it be that
much.

Maybe I should stop building apps and start a shipping business :-)

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 More options Dec 8 2008, 3:02 am
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 00:02:45 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
The only shiping available to germany seams to be dhl for 178$, thats
a lot.

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 More options Dec 8 2008, 12:58 pm
From: szeldon <szeldon....@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 09:58:19 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 8 2008 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
When logged to an Android Market, see this for details:

http://android.brightstarcorp.com/help.php

This contains information as follows:

"Outside the US
For Orders shipping outside the US, shipping pricing includes cost of
shipping service and the applicable customs, duties, import and
country specific other fees."

So this price is not only for a package. This wasn't obvious, at least
for me.

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 More options Dec 8 2008, 2:43 pm
From: blindfold <seeingwithso...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:43:39 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 8 2008 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany

> did anyone who ordered the dev phone receive a upstrackingnumber?

Not yet, but that is supposedly to come later (http://
android.brightstarcorp.com/help.php):

> How can I track my order?
> Once your order ships, you will receive an email with your shipment tracking information.
> With the information provided you will be able to track the status of your shipment via
> the shipping carrier's web site.

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Discussion subject changed to "When will we get a "Firm" Date on app sales" by John Lauricella
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 More options Dec 8 2008, 3:19 pm
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Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:19:50 -0500
Local: Mon, Dec 8 2008 3:19 pm
Subject: RE: [android-developers] When will we get a "Firm" Date on app sales

I am having trouble making out a development roadmap for my applications in the Android Market without any ideas as to when I will be able to sell them.
I realize that the apps now available must remain free, but my decisions on feature sets and possible updates are dependent on how long the wait is until I can recoup some money.
I have heard "early next year". Is that the best estimate?
If there is no date envisioned, is there a recommendation as to where else to go to sell Android apps?
thanks,
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Rajesh Sundaram  
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Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 02:06:42 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: When will we get a "Firm" Date on app sales
From
http://android.brightstarcorp.com/help.php

Too high outside US. At least in UK they must make some arrangement
with T-mobile or some means.

Outside the US
For Orders shipping outside the US, shipping pricing includes cost of
shipping service and the applicable customs, duties, import and
country specific other fees.
Int'l Shipments         1 Phone
Canada  $ 264.49
UK      $ 171.53
Hungary         $ 199.99
Austria         $ 189.99
Germany         $ 178.90
France  $ 183.81
Spain   $ 170.14
Poland  $ 210.09
Switzerland     $ 130.43
Netherlands     $ 172.99
Sweden  $ 214.81
Finland         $ 199.92
India   $ 224.60
Japan   $ 109.55
Taiwan  $ 156.66
Australia       $ 140.23
Singapore       $ 119.36

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Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:37:32 +0000
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Subject: Re: [android-developers] Re: When will we get a "Firm" Date on app sales
I've done some sums and if you ship individual phones as separate
parcels from thr US to the UK the BrightStar price is about par for the
course.

My question is why aren't Google having a shipping container or two
delivered to somewhere in the EU and shipping them out from there?, it's
not like Google don't have offices throughout the EU (and elsewhere)
that could do this locally given their office map at
http://www.google.com/support/jobs/bin/static.py?page=about.html&abou...

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Discussion subject changed to "Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany" by DazBy
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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:32:06 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 10 2008 5:32 am
Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
Does the phone have to be shipped to the billing address or can I
specify a different address to that on my Credit Card?

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Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 10:06:51 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
Did any one get a tracking id?

I think you can have a different ship address than the billing
address.

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:50:41 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
Did any one received the phone itself (in or outside US)?
And did you get a delivery tracking id?

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:41:04 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
I got the tracking id from andr...@brightstarcorp.com - G1 is on its
way to Cologne ;-)

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Jason  
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:22:40 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
How long have you been waiting for this tracking id, I ordered the dev
phone1 5 days ago, but still no update.

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:22:19 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
When did you place your order?
I really hope that it ships soon, so that I can play with it during
the holiday!

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From: patte <ehrl...@infosion.de>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:35:39 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 13 2008 5:35 am
Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
I placed my order 6th december.

Because i didnt get any message with any information about tracking
number i wrote to andr...@brightstarcorp.com at 10th december. They
answered very quick at the same day and provided me the ups tracking
number - "Your order has shipped."

UPS got the package 9th december! (PALATINE > HODGKINS > LOUISVILLE >
NEWARK > PHILADELPHIA > HERNE-BOERNIG > DUSSELDORF > KOELN )

KOELN (COLOGNE), DE 13.12.2008  0:45 UNTERWEGS

If UPS delivers saturdays I wil get it TODAY, if not on MONDAY ;-)

Good luck guys ;-)

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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:45:48 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany

On Dec 13, 11:35 am, patte <ehrl...@infosion.de> wrote:

> If UPS delivers saturdays I wil get it TODAY, if not on MONDAY ;-)

They don't deliver on Saturdays unless the shipper buys an additional
option for delivery on Saturday. I guess you'll get it on Monday. My
order of 12-6 was removed from the tracking page today, so I guess
I'll get mine on Monday too.


 
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Walter Chang  
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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:05:18 +0800
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Subject: Re: [android-developers] Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany

well, i ordered mine the very first day and it arrived at tao yuan, taiwan
on friday night(12/12).  so i should be able to play with it on monday.
can't wait!

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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:22:44 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android Dev Phone 1 + Shipping to Germany
Go to http://www.ups.com/WebTracking/reference and put your order
number into the shipping reference field and your destination and a
range of dates to cover when you ordered and you should see the
tracking details.
I placed an order on the 6th and it shows as departing on the 10th so
my guess is they are pretty swamped with orders.
I still haven't had any emails other than the original order
acknowledgement.

My tracking details show a scheduled delivery for the 17th which is
hardly what I'd call "EXPEDITED" delivery from the USA to Australia -
mind you I expect delivery before that date as it hit Sydney on the
13th.

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