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Nightwolf  
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 More options Oct 4 2010, 1:14 pm
From: Nightwolf <mikh...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:14:34 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Oct 4 2010 1:14 pm
Subject: Stolen app on market
Recently I've discovered that our app Little Python is distributed by
developer who call himself Adam Gates. He renamed our app to snake,
replaced icon and changed AdMob id.
He has 55 published apps. Please take a look may be you'll find yours.
Is there any way to shut him down? Please advise.

 
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Michael A.  
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 More options Oct 4 2010, 1:44 pm
From: "Michael A." <michael.aki...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:44:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Oct 4 2010 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market
I've read of others with similar complaints. The only recourse, I
suppose is to mark his apps as stolen in the market (in the hope that
someone at Google actually reviews that), and sending him/Google a C&D
(see, e.g., http://www.seomoz.org/dp/generic-cease-desist-to-google).

See here for another story regarding this developer:

http://blog.electricgoat.net/2010/09/is-google-doing-any-cleanup-of-t...

Seems that sending a C&D worked for them.

Also, contact Admob and alert them to the fraud, since that is how he/
they are earning money.

Regards,

Michael A.

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 More options Oct 4 2010, 1:44 pm
From: "{ Devdroid }" <webnet.andr...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 19:44:54 +0200
Local: Mon, Oct 4 2010 1:44 pm
Subject: Re: [android-developers] Stolen app on market
On 4 October 2010 19:14, Nightwolf <mikh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Recently I've discovered that our app Little Python is distributed by
> developer who call himself Adam Gates. He renamed our app to snake,
> replaced icon and changed AdMob id.
> He has 55 published apps. Please take a look may be you'll find yours.
> Is there any way to shut him down? Please advise.

Sure. Write to Google using this link (in Market console "Help" on the
upper side, then "Contacting Us" on bottom and then
"Android Market Developers: Publishers & Merchants" then
probably "Application Removal" which would lead you to this:

http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/request.py?contact_ty...

Write down your discovery


 
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 More options Oct 12 2010, 9:57 am
From: Nightwolf <mikh...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 06:57:42 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 12 2010 9:57 am
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market
Thank you for the answers.
We reported about infringement to adMob and Google. AdMob advised to
file C&D to Google and we did so.

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 More options Oct 12 2010, 10:41 am
From: Yahel <kaye...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:41:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 12 2010 10:41 am
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market
Ok, this is getting ridiculous !!

We are on theft issue here, not just spam or something dull.

GOOGLE should not just remove the app. This is a big, huge, and the
worst infringement you can find in the whole history of market
crapiness : The account of this guy should be deleted. period.

As soon as GOOGLE receive the first C&D letter and checked that it is
indeed exactly the same app, boom !! Even if all the other apps are
his own work.

Yahel

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 More options Oct 12 2010, 11:57 am
From: Kumar Bibek <coomar....@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:27:19 +0530
Local: Tues, Oct 12 2010 11:57 am
Subject: Re: [android-developers] Re: Stolen app on market

Yeah, that should be straightforward. I guess, they just don't look at these
issues seriously as yet. Or may be the legal procedures just take too long.
BTW, have you got a reply?

2010/10/12 Yahel <kaye...@gmail.com>

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Kumar Bibek
http://techdroid.kbeanie.com
http://www.kbeanie.com

 
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Yahel  
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 More options Oct 12 2010, 12:11 pm
From: Yahel <kaye...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:11:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 12 2010 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market
Atually there is no legal issue here. Against the TOS + theft :
Account terminated !

I can admit although with difficulty, 32 spammers with 10 000
apps(actual numbers) and 14 years old, made-in-5-minutes crapps, to
artificially increase the count of apps in the market for marketing
purpose. But this is something else.

I'm glad I just bought a Mac. Diversification will soften the feeling
as I won't be 100% Android as today !!

Yahel


 
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 More options Oct 12 2010, 1:07 pm
From: Nightwolf <mikh...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:07:08 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 12 2010 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market
I guess it'll take some time to get answer from Google. Hope they'll
do something this year.

In C&D we mentioned that this particular Developer is a repeat
infringer. So now there are at least 3 cases with this guy - the first
is mentioned in the link above, the second is developer who has his
app stolen and warned us and the third is our case.

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 More options Oct 13 2010, 2:19 am
From: ko5tik <kpriblo...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:19:06 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 13 2010 2:19 am
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market
Where ist he located physically?  It may be criminal offence in his
home jurisdiction,
and surely a case for lawsuit.  Maybe he is accessible this way

 
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 More options Oct 13 2010, 4:49 am
From: Edmund Higgins <ehiggins...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:49:30 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 13 2010 4:49 am
Subject: Re: [android-developers] Re: Stolen app on market

I'm not sure why your upset. Isn't the original owner of the arcade game "
snake" have more reason to be angry than you? ....I'm just saying.


 
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 More options Oct 13 2010, 7:21 am
From: Yahel <kaye...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:21:35 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 13 2010 7:21 am
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market
Because I care about the Android project which I find to be such a
great idea on paper and such a poor realisation. Well the framework is
ok but the market ?
I spend a lot of time in and around that piece of junk and it slowly
building a huge itch, so much so that I bought a Mac.

That's why ... But I'm an entrepreneur, I'm suppose to thrive on
constraints and use them at my advantage to make my business flourish
and if the Market allows that kind of behavior, I know now exactly
what to do next ;) What's the name of your app by the way ? ;)

Yahel


 
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 More options Oct 13 2010, 7:37 am
From: Sarwar Erfan <erfanonl...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:37:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 13 2010 7:37 am
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market
Hi,
I can't understand it. How can someone steal an app? Did he just
renamed the apk?
As far as I know, you upload signed apk to the marketplace. So, the
thief can only rename the apk, but cannot alter the contents.
And, the application display name comes from the application itself,
not the apk file name.
Where is the missing link in my idea?

I will be glad if someone clears my concept. Thanks in advance.

Regards
Sarwar Erfan

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 More options Oct 13 2010, 7:51 am
From: Edmund Higgins <ehiggins...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:51:52 -0700
Local: Wed, Oct 13 2010 7:51 am
Subject: Re: [android-developers] Re: Stolen app on market

Lol you know it! Good show good sir. And I bought a MAC too. I like the idea
of open source but when the market gets overtaken by horrible apps and the
system is too easy to manipulate....its time to go elsewhere. I would rather
have controlled quality in my market than chaotic crap!
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 More options Oct 13 2010, 8:28 am
From: JP <joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:28:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 13 2010 8:28 am
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market

On Oct 13, 4:37 am, Sarwar Erfan <erfanonl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I can't understand it. How can someone steal an app? Did he just
> renamed the apk?
> As far as I know, you upload signed apk to the marketplace. So, the
> thief can only rename the apk, but cannot alter the contents.

We've had this a bunch of times before.
It's the easiest thing to crack open an .apk package, extract and
modify the content, then repackage it and sign that.
Signature != encryption

 
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 More options Oct 13 2010, 8:35 am
From: JP <joachim.pfeif...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:35:30 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 13 2010 8:35 am
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market

On Oct 13, 4:51 am, Edmund Higgins <ehiggins...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would rather
> have controlled quality in my market than chaotic crap!

O well who wouldn't agree. It'll be interesting to see if Amazon can
come up with compelling terms to attract a sufficient "critical mass"
of quality apps, offer decent discoverability, presentation with
customer appeal, easy payment, in app payment - short, offer all
that's missing in Android Market to emphasize monetization for devs
that put in the effort. If these guys take off, they might be able to
stick Android Market with the "crap". It's a longshot though.

 
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 More options Oct 13 2010, 2:00 pm
From: Moto <medicalsou...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:00:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Oct 13 2010 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market
Oh man... I was actually thinking this could happen to me any time
soon and now that it happen to you I'm even more worried!

I guess I'm gonna have to invest some money for protecting my
application :( it already insanely pirated...

And yes I have originally wanted to go with Amazon!  I bet they got a
better solution to spam pirates and all that...

-Moto

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 More options Oct 22 2010, 1:46 pm
From: Nightwolf <mikh...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:46:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 22 2010 1:46 pm
Subject: Re: Stolen app on market
Google removed infringing app upon our request.

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