I received this email But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded What do i need to do? Thanks
Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android applications that may have been made available on alternative markets without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information about those Android applications, including contact information for the developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android developer account will be included in the information Google will provide in response to this subpoena.
Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss the substance of the process in our possession. For more information about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:
> I received this email > But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded > What do i need to do? > Thanks
> Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android > applications that may have been made available on alternative markets > without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information > about those Android applications, including contact information for the > developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android > developer account will be included in the information Google will provide > in response to this subpoena.
> Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss > the substance of the process in our possession. For more information > about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of > Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # > 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:
> I received this email > But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded > What do i need to do? > Thanks
> Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android > applications that may have been made available on alternative markets > without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information > about those Android applications, including contact information for the > developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android > developer account will be included in the information Google will provide > in response to this subpoena.
> Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss > the substance of the process in our possession. For more information > about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of > Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # > 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
For more information about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:
> Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-) > I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?
> On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:
>> I received this email >> But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded >> What do i need to do? >> Thanks
>> Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android >> applications that may have been made available on alternative markets >> without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information >> about those Android applications, including contact information for the >> developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android >> developer account will be included in the information Google will provide >> in response to this subpoena.
>> Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss >> the substance of the process in our possession. For more information >> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of >> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # >> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
I just spoke to a representative who said "Google should not have sent those emails." I just said I received an email and she immediately knew what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my applications illegally to another application market).
Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the representatives at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. Anyway, nothing to worry about (at least for now).
On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:
> For more information > about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of > Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # > 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
> On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:
>> Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-) >> I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?
>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:
>>> I received this email >>> But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded >>> What do i need to do? >>> Thanks
>>> Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android >>> applications that may have been made available on alternative markets >>> without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information >>> about those Android applications, including contact information for the >>> developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android >>> developer account will be included in the information Google will provide >>> in response to this subpoena.
>>> Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss >>> the substance of the process in our possession. For more information >>> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of >>> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # >>> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
While the FBI representative may well say "Google should not have sent those emails." they are probably expressing more of a desire, than identifying an error. I am personally very happy that Google think they should notify me if my name is included in a list of data sent to the FBI, as it will reduce my WTF!? and associated risk of cardiac arrest if I receive a subsequent communication from them.
I'd be very surprised if that email broadside did not receive minutely detailed consideration from Google's lawyers before it went out, and is not entirely within the law.
> I received this email
> But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
> What do i need to do?
> Thanks
> Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
> applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
> without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
> about those Android applications, including contact information for the
> developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
> developer account will be included in the information Google will provide
> in response to this subpoena.
> Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss
> the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
Wow, if I'd gotten it, I'd probably assume it was a phishing message, and that somewhere there was a link to verify the bank account associated with your developer account.
So it seems to be rather good news, isn't it? The FBI is hunting down pirate sites... Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly? I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.
On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:46:58 AM UTC+2, Tom wrote:
> I just spoke to a representative who said "Google should not have sent > those emails." I just said I received an email and she immediately knew > what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget > it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any > issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my > applications illegally to another application market).
> Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the representatives > at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. Anyway, nothing to > worry about (at least for now).
> On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:
>> For more information >> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of >> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # >> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:
>>> Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-) >>> I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?
>>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:
>>>> I received this email >>>> But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded >>>> What do i need to do? >>>> Thanks
>>>> Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android >>>> applications that may have been made available on alternative markets >>>> without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information >>>> about those Android applications, including contact information for the >>>> developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android >>>> developer account will be included in the information Google will >>>> provide >>>> in response to this subpoena.
>>>> Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss >>>> the substance of the process in our possession. For more information >>>> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of >>>> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # >>>> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
Unless Google got a legal gag order to keep quiet, they will ALWAYS let you know if they've given the government your personal information. The FBI told Google not to notify us but couldn't get a court order to do that. Google is generally very serious about your personal information. And Google will fight subpoenas on your behalf.
On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:46:58 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
> I just spoke to a representative who said "Google should not have sent > those emails." I just said I received an email and she immediately knew > what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget > it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any > issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my > applications illegally to another application market).
> Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the representatives > at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. Anyway, nothing to > worry about (at least for now).
> On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:
>> For more information >> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of >> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # >> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:
>>> Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-) >>> I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?
>>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:
>>>> I received this email >>>> But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded >>>> What do i need to do? >>>> Thanks
>>>> Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android >>>> applications that may have been made available on alternative markets >>>> without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information >>>> about those Android applications, including contact information for the >>>> developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android >>>> developer account will be included in the information Google will >>>> provide >>>> in response to this subpoena.
>>>> Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss >>>> the substance of the process in our possession. For more information >>>> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of >>>> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # >>>> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
Good assumption, even if it turns out not to be true in this case. I would not, for example, have assumed that the phone number in the message was a genuine FBI office number unless independently verified.
Why the FBI would need that much detailed information for the stated purposes is also suspicious. All they really need to know is whether or not the developer responsible for uploading to the alternative market is the same as the one uploading on Google. They do not need the developer's full contact info for that. If they were really concerned with fighting piracy rather than reaping domestic intelligence, they could have a third party compare contact info and let them know which are matches w/o revealing the data: kind of like a "contact information escrow agent".
On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:15:05 AM UTC-7, Nathan wrote:
> Wow, if I'd gotten it, I'd probably assume it was a phishing message, and > that somewhere there was a link to verify the bank account associated with > your developer account.
On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:54:30 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:
> Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement > notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly? > I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.
I've sent DMCA notices, and I got the email, but I'm not sure how the two could be related. I didn't sent the DMCA notices to Google, after all, but to quasi-legal hosting sites (that often follow the letter of the law by taking down the content in question at the link you report, but not actually deleting all copies of it). Well...unless the FBI seized the servers of one or more of those sites, and found records of those DMCA notices? Or they could have otherwise subpoenaed the email records.
On Thursday, October 4, 2012, Tim in Boulder wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:54:30 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:
>> Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement
>> notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly?
>> I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.
> I've sent DMCA notices, and I got the email, but I'm not sure how the two
> could be related. I didn't sent the DMCA notices to Google, after all, but
> to quasi-legal hosting sites (that often follow the letter of the law by
> taking down the content in question at the link you report, but not
> actually deleting all copies of it). Well...unless the FBI seized the
> servers of one or more of those sites, and found records of those DMCA
> notices? Or they could have otherwise subpoenaed the email records.
> Tim
I haven't read how the dmca process actually works so this is pure
speculation: I've often read about the "dmca agent" on these websites.
Maybe when receiving such notice, it's automatically transferred to an
official?
Or perhaps it's just what you suggest: the FBI found records of dmca
notices received by one very popular direct download website... Who says
megaupload? ^^ I, at least, remember having filed a dmca notice to
megaupload...
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> On Thursday, October 4, 2012, Tim in Boulder wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:54:30 PM UTC-6, Ian wrote:
>>> Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement
>>> notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly?
>>> I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.
>> I've sent DMCA notices, and I got the email, but I'm not sure how the two
>> could be related. I didn't sent the DMCA notices to Google, after all, but
>> to quasi-legal hosting sites (that often follow the letter of the law by
>> taking down the content in question at the link you report, but not
>> actually deleting all copies of it). Well...unless the FBI seized the
>> servers of one or more of those sites, and found records of those DMCA
>> notices? Or they could have otherwise subpoenaed the email records.
>> Tim
> I haven't read how the dmca process actually works so this is pure
> speculation: I've often read about the "dmca agent" on these websites.
> Maybe when receiving such notice, it's automatically transferred to an
> official?
> Or perhaps it's just what you suggest: the FBI found records of dmca
> notices received by one very popular direct download website... Who says
> megaupload? ^^ I, at least, remember having filed a dmca notice to
> megaupload...
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> So it seems to be rather good news, isn't it? The FBI is hunting down > pirate sites... > Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement > notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly? > I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.
> On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:46:58 AM UTC+2, Tom wrote:
>> I just spoke to a representative who said "Google should not have sent >> those emails." I just said I received an email and she immediately knew >> what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget >> it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any >> issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my >> applications illegally to another application market).
>> Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the representatives >> at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. Anyway, nothing to >> worry about (at least for now).
>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:
>>> For more information >>> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of >>> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # >>> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
>>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:
>>>> Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-) >>>> I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?
>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:
>>>>> I received this email >>>>> But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded >>>>> What do i need to do? >>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android >>>>> applications that may have been made available on alternative markets >>>>> without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information >>>>> about those Android applications, including contact information for the >>>>> developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android >>>>> developer account will be included in the information Google will >>>>> provide >>>>> in response to this subpoena.
>>>>> Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or discuss >>>>> the substance of the process in our possession. For more information >>>>> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of >>>>> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # >>>>> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:12 AM, al <achim.leub...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Since all answers seem to indicate the opposite: I got the mail but never
> send a DMCA notice.
> Am Dienstag, 2. Oktober 2012 22:54:30 UTC+2 schrieb Ian:
>> So it seems to be rather good news, isn't it? The FBI is hunting down
>> pirate sites...
>> Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement
>> notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly?
>> I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.
>> On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:46:58 AM UTC+2, Tom wrote:
>>> I just spoke to a representative who said "Google should not have sent
>>> those emails." I just said I received an email and she immediately knew
>>> what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget
>>> it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any
>>> issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my
>>> applications illegally to another application market).
>>> Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the
>>> representatives at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. Anyway,
>>> nothing to worry about (at least for now).
>>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:
>>>> For more information
>>>> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
>>>> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
>>>> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:
>>>>> Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-)
>>>>> I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?
>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:
>>>>>> I received this email
>>>>>> But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded
>>>>>> What do i need to do?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android
>>>>>> applications that may have been made available on alternative markets
>>>>>> without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information
>>>>>> about those Android applications, including contact information for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android
>>>>>> developer account will be included in the information Google will
>>>>>> provide
>>>>>> in response to this subpoena.
>>>>>> Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or
>>>>>> discuss
>>>>>> the substance of the process in our possession. For more information
>>>>>> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of
>>>>>> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference #
>>>>>> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
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> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:12 AM, al <achim....@googlemail.com <javascript:> > > wrote:
>> Since all answers seem to indicate the opposite: I got the mail but never >> send a DMCA notice.
>> Am Dienstag, 2. Oktober 2012 22:54:30 UTC+2 schrieb Ian:
>>> So it seems to be rather good news, isn't it? The FBI is hunting down >>> pirate sites... >>> Did those who received this email ever made DMCA copyright infringement >>> notices to websites hosting/linking their apps illegaly? >>> I did, several times. And now we've got this email; it may be related.
>>> On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:46:58 AM UTC+2, Tom wrote:
>>>> I just spoke to a representative who said "Google should not have sent >>>> those emails." I just said I received an email and she immediately knew >>>> what I was referring to, no reference number needed. She told me to forget >>>> it was sent, and that the FBI will contact me directly if there is any >>>> issue pertaining to my account specifically (someone uploading one of my >>>> applications illegally to another application market).
>>>> Hope that clears things up for people, I feel bad for the >>>> representatives at that number who must be receiving tons of calls. Anyway, >>>> nothing to worry about (at least for now).
>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 7:14:18 PM UTC-4, Lew wrote:
>>>>> For more information >>>>> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of >>>>> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # >>>>> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:50:20 PM UTC-7, Streets Of Boston wrote:
>>>>>> Got the same e-mail. Asked the same question on 'android-discuss' :-) >>>>>> I'm curious what this is all about? BlueStack? Aliyun/Acer?
>>>>>> On Monday, October 1, 2012 6:45:39 PM UTC-4, Andrei wrote:
>>>>>>> I received this email >>>>>>> But i am not interested and want my account to be excluded >>>>>>> What do i need to do? >>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Google has received a subpoena seeking information related to Android >>>>>>> applications that may have been made available on alternative markets >>>>>>> without the consent of the developer. The subpoena seeks information >>>>>>> about those Android applications, including contact information for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> developers of the applications. Our records show that your Android >>>>>>> developer account will be included in the information Google will >>>>>>> provide >>>>>>> in response to this subpoena.
>>>>>>> Google is not in a position to provide you with legal advice or >>>>>>> discuss >>>>>>> the substance of the process in our possession. For more information >>>>>>> about the subpoena, you may wish to contact the Federal Bureau of >>>>>>> Investigation -- Atlanta Field Office at (404) 679-9000, reference # >>>>>>> 2011R00320/FBI/ORKIN.
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