Has anyone been able to surf the web from their G1 *strictly* via Wi-
Fi?
... how about, the wifi network created by their Mac laptop's Airport
Internet Sharing?
Has anyone in Canada been able to successfully connect via Fido (or
any other carrier)?
I am a developer in Canada -- and we don't have T-Mobile here -- so I
purchased an unlocked G1 on eBay (CAN$820 or US$665 for the device,
unlocking, shipping, and taxes). The phone arrived and worked as
expected according to a few minutes of superficial use without
networking being involved. The phone was unlocked by the eBay seller,
and the notification bar had a message saying that there was a problem
syncing (to the eBay seller's gmail account). Naturally there was a
problem syncing, because no networking was turned on. I decided to try
to figure out how to input my own Google account username and
password, and get the G1 synced accordingly. However, there was no
apparent way to do this. My next thought was to at least try to
establishing network connectivity, after all, the G1 is has wifi
support (i.e. I should not need a carrier's data plan -- just a wifi
connection).
My plan was to connect to my own wifi network (using Mac OS X's
Airport "Internet Sharing"). This is where the problems started. First
of all, the name of my network (in the list of wifi networks) was
appearing and disappearing, yet I was right in front of the laptop
serving wifi. Moving away, to other parts of the apartment, did not
alter this flaky behaviour. Just from that experience, I was starting
to feel uneasy, as I've never had a problem with other devices sharing
my wifi signal. The connection would get established periodically,
with a private IP address obtained! I then clicked "home", opened the
"browser", and couldn't load the google home page. Two hours of
efforts were futile -- the G1 simply would not load google.com (or any
website for that matter). Note that my other laptop had no problem
connecting to the same wifi network.
At last I was frustrated enough that I thought that perhaps there was
some setting that I was not aware of that was causing this issue. So I
found the "reset" option somewhere in the G1's "settings". A dialog
warned that all the data would be erased, but I didn't mind because I
hadn't loaded any data. Following a power cycle, the device showed an
animation of a box and a G1 being removed from within (presumably to
indicate that this is an "out of the box" state). I only ever got to
see this out-of-the-box animation that one time. From that point on, I
have been stuck in the following "activation" loop:
(1) A screen with the Android logo, "Welcome to T-Mobile G1" and
"Touch the android to begin." Touching the android shows a screen
titled "Setting up your T-Mobile G1", and then the on-screen buttons
are "Emergency dial" and "Next". The physical "menu" button brings up
one item: "APN settings".
(2) Touching "Next" brings up a screen with two buttons -- one to
"Create" a Google account, and one to "Sign in". Again, the physical
"menu" button brings up only the APN settings item. As I have a Google
account, I touch "Next", which brings me to a sign-in screen.
(3) The sign-in screen has two text fields: username and password. The
on-screen buttons are "Back" and "Sign in". The physical "menu"
buttons still only has APN settings.
(4) When I attempt to sign in, the screen says "Signing in...", "Your
phone is communicating with Google servers and setting up your
account. This may take up to five minutes." There is a kind-of
progress bar and the process times out within a minute.
(5) The screen following the time out says "There is a problem
communicating with the Google servers.", "This could be a temporary
problem or your SIM card may not be provisioned for data services. If
it continues, call Customer Care." There is a "Try again" button, and
the usual "APN settings" menu.
(6) The "APN settings" menu has a list of APNs, and a submenu "New
APN".
That's it. That's my loop. I cannot get to the "HOME" screen. I've
talked to the following support lines:
- Fido technical support
- Rogers support
- T-Mobile's technical support
- HTC
- Google (yes, I've even called Google, and I was told that they don't
support the G1, and that T-Mobile wanted to handle the support)
I've even gone to Fido and Rogers stores, and used their in-store data-
provisioned SIM cards to no avail.
I have also eased the APN process by deleting all the T-Mobile APNs,
and just working on one Fido APN setting at a time. Why you ask?
Because not even Fido has a definitive answer for what their settings
are. Try surfing the web for this info, and you will see a variety of
settings. The only way for me to be somewhat sure that I have the
right settings is to have deleted all the APNs, and then adjusted one
variable at a time -- my indicator of success is the GPRS/EDGE
"service connected, data flowing" icons. When I have a good setting,
those icons show up, and once in a while light up the up-arrow or down-
arrow. When I have a bad setting, those icons don't appear. Based on
this, a setting that seems to work is:
The Mobile Country Code (MCC) and Mobile Network Code (MNC) are both
filled automatically, based on my Fido SIM card. When I put the Rogers
SIM card in, those two numbers were automatically different (for the
"new" APN I created.
So that's pretty much the bulk of my situation with the G1. It is
currently a brick. And it totally blows my mind that there is no way
around this activation loop. Like, why shouldn't I be able to use this
device without activation?
Has anyone else seen similar problems? I've seen some people mention
similar things on various forums, but I would like to hear what the
developers think. Does anyone have any ideas about what I should try
next?
In a week I will be going to a T-Mobile store across the boarder, and
trying their T-Mobile G1-data provisioned SIM card. Other than waiting
another week, I have no idea what else to try.
I was able to get an unlocked G1 phone onto ATT without an AT&T
data plan. I had to add 'wap.cingular' as an apn, only had to provide
'wap.cingular' no other fields. I was then able to log on with my
google account and boot the phone, which currently uses only wifi for
data . I guess the crux is you need to access an apn to do the initial
google account login, then once the phone is set up, you can use only
wifi.
M
On Nov 24, 4:26 pm, Alex B <alexba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone been able to surf the web from their G1 *strictly* via Wi-
> Fi?
> ... how about, the wifi network created by their Mac laptop's Airport
> Internet Sharing?
> Has anyone in Canada been able to successfully connect via Fido (or
> any other carrier)?
> I am a developer in Canada -- and we don't have T-Mobile here -- so I
> purchased an unlocked G1 on eBay (CAN$820 or US$665 for the device,
> unlocking, shipping, and taxes). The phone arrived and worked as
> expected according to a few minutes of superficial use without
> networking being involved. The phone was unlocked by the eBay seller,
> and the notification bar had a message saying that there was a problem
> syncing (to the eBay seller's gmail account). Naturally there was a
> problem syncing, because no networking was turned on. I decided to try
> to figure out how to input my own Google account username and
> password, and get the G1 synced accordingly. However, there was no
> apparent way to do this. My next thought was to at least try to
> establishing network connectivity, after all, the G1 is has wifi
> support (i.e. I should not need a carrier's data plan -- just a wifi
> connection).
> My plan was to connect to my own wifi network (using Mac OS X's
> Airport "Internet Sharing"). This is where the problems started. First
> of all, the name of my network (in the list of wifi networks) was
> appearing and disappearing, yet I was right in front of the laptop
> serving wifi. Moving away, to other parts of the apartment, did not
> alter this flaky behaviour. Just from that experience, I was starting
> to feel uneasy, as I've never had a problem with other devices sharing
> my wifi signal. The connection would get established periodically,
> with a private IP address obtained! I then clicked "home", opened the
> "browser", and couldn't load the google home page. Two hours of
> efforts were futile -- the G1 simply would not load google.com (or any
> website for that matter). Note that my other laptop had no problem
> connecting to the same wifi network.
> At last I was frustrated enough that I thought that perhaps there was
> some setting that I was not aware of that was causing this issue. So I
> found the "reset" option somewhere in the G1's "settings". A dialog
> warned that all the data would be erased, but I didn't mind because I
> hadn't loaded any data. Following a power cycle, the device showed an
> animation of a box and a G1 being removed from within (presumably to
> indicate that this is an "out of the box" state). I only ever got to
> see this out-of-the-box animation that one time. From that point on, I
> have been stuck in the following "activation" loop:
> (1) A screen with the Android logo, "Welcome to T-Mobile G1" and
> "Touch the android to begin." Touching the android shows a screen
> titled "Setting up your T-Mobile G1", and then the on-screen buttons
> are "Emergency dial" and "Next". The physical "menu" button brings up
> one item: "APN settings".
> (2) Touching "Next" brings up a screen with two buttons -- one to
> "Create" a Google account, and one to "Sign in". Again, the physical
> "menu" button brings up only the APN settings item. As I have a Google
> account, I touch "Next", which brings me to a sign-in screen.
> (3) The sign-in screen has two text fields: username and password. The
> on-screen buttons are "Back" and "Sign in". The physical "menu"
> buttons still only has APN settings.
> (4) When I attempt to sign in, the screen says "Signing in...", "Your
> phone is communicating with Google servers and setting up your
> account. This may take up to five minutes." There is a kind-of
> progress bar and the process times out within a minute.
> (5) The screen following the time out says "There is a problem
> communicating with the Google servers.", "This could be a temporary
> problem or your SIM card may not be provisioned for data services. If
> it continues, call Customer Care." There is a "Try again" button, and
> the usual "APN settings" menu.
> (6) The "APN settings" menu has a list of APNs, and a submenu "New
> APN".
> That's it. That's my loop. I cannot get to the "HOME" screen. I've
> talked to the following support lines:
> - Fido technical support
> - Rogers support
> - T-Mobile's technical support
> - HTC
> - Google (yes, I've even called Google, and I was told that they don't
> support the G1, and that T-Mobile wanted to handle the support)
> I've even gone to Fido and Rogers stores, and used their in-store data-
> provisioned SIM cards to no avail.
> I have also eased the APN process by deleting all the T-Mobile APNs,
> and just working on one Fido APN setting at a time. Why you ask?
> Because not even Fido has a definitive answer for what their settings
> are. Try surfing the web for this info, and you will see a variety of
> settings. The only way for me to be somewhat sure that I have the
> right settings is to have deleted all the APNs, and then adjusted one
> variable at a time -- my indicator of success is the GPRS/EDGE
> "service connected, data flowing" icons. When I have a good setting,
> those icons show up, and once in a while light up the up-arrow or down-
> arrow. When I have a bad setting, those icons don't appear. Based on
> this, a setting that seems to work is:
> The Mobile Country Code (MCC) and Mobile Network Code (MNC) are both
> filled automatically, based on my Fido SIM card. When I put the Rogers
> SIM card in, those two numbers were automatically different (for the
> "new" APN I created.
> So that's pretty much the bulk of my situation with the G1. It is
> currently a brick. And it totally blows my mind that there is no way
> around this activation loop. Like, why shouldn't I be able to use this
> device without activation?
> Has anyone else seen similar problems? I've seen some people mention
> similar things on various forums, but I would like to hear what the
> developers think. Does anyone have any ideas about what I should try
> next?
> In a week I will be going to a T-Mobile store across the boarder, and
> trying their T-Mobile G1-data provisioned SIM card. Other than waiting
> another week, I have no idea what else to try.
* The new SIM cards (3G) use code 370 (three-seven-zero). The old Fido
SIM cards (2G) use mobile network code 37 (three-seven).
The best way to avoid SIM card (and general activation) issues, is to
*first* add the SIM card to the phone, and *then* add the new APN. The
reason for this
order is that the MCC (mobile country code), and more importantly, the
MNC (mobile network code), are added automatically based on the SIM
card. The
old Fido SIM cards (whose serial numbers begin with 893023701) will
automatically acquire MNC 37, while the new SIM cards (whose serial
numbers begin with 893023702) will automatically acquire MNC 370.
The quickest way to tell old from new is to look at the 701 versus the
702 on the flip side of the SIM card. "1" is old, "2" is new.
Why might you do things in a different order to the above? Because if
you had any issues activating, there's a good chance that you'll (1)
try different APN settings found online, and (2) try different SIM
cards. In doing these kinds of trials, there's a good chance that you
will mismatch the MNC codes (due to different SIM cards). For
instance, you might innocently try two different Fido cards, not
knowing that they have differing MNC codes. *Therefore*, no matter
what APN settings you find online, it is important that when you
insert each new SIM card, you determine its corresponding MNC code --
do this by accessing the menu item "add a new APN" and scrolling down
to see what MNC code the SIM card automatically acquires.
Knowing the SIM card's associated MNC code, you can then play around
modifying/testing different APN settings (presumably the ones you
already have
saved in your APNs list) -- primarily APN, username, and password, and
secondarily, proxy or server, and port.
For activation, you will not have to set anything for the other
available fields: MMSC, MMS proxy, MMS port, and APN type. MMS* is for
Multimedia Messaging Service (for sending messages that include
multimedia stuff like photos).
Also, if you don't have a data plan, do NOT try activating via a pay-
as-you-go plan. Fido charges pay-as-you-go customers 5 cents per
kilobyte! Clearly someone at Fido arbitrarily chose this figure, and
didn't consider its implications, because that works out to $50/MB. If
you don't want to get a data plan, I advise you to go to a Fido store
and ask them to borrow their in-store data-provisioned SIM card to
activate your phone -- it should only take like 5 minutes.
Anyway, hope this helps others in Canada and beyond.
p.s. For Rogers SIM cards, see the following site:
Does it mean all services which are supposed to be available are
available without AT&T data plan? I signed for a data plan, but it's
expensive - additional $30 per month... Another question... if you use
wifi... will they at AT&T detect that and will they complain?
On Nov 24, 8:58 pm, Mark K <mark.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was able to get an unlocked G1 phone onto ATT without an AT&T
> data plan. I had to add 'wap.cingular' as an apn, only had to provide
> 'wap.cingular' no other fields. I was then able to log on with my
> google account and boot the phone, which currently uses only wifi for
> data . I guess the crux is you need to access an apn to do the initial
> google account login, then once the phone is set up, you can use only
> wifi.
> M
> On Nov 24, 4:26 pm, Alex B <alexba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Has anyone been able to surf the web from their G1 *strictly* via Wi-
> > Fi?
> > ... how about, the wifi network created by their Mac laptop's Airport
> > Internet Sharing?
> > Has anyone in Canada been able to successfully connect via Fido (or
> > any other carrier)?
> > I am a developer in Canada -- and we don't have T-Mobile here -- so I
> > purchased an unlocked G1 on eBay (CAN$820 or US$665 for the device,
> > unlocking, shipping, and taxes). The phone arrived and worked as
> > expected according to a few minutes of superficial use without
> > networking being involved. The phone was unlocked by the eBay seller,
> > and the notification bar had a message saying that there was a problem
> > syncing (to the eBay seller's gmail account). Naturally there was a
> > problem syncing, because no networking was turned on. I decided to try
> > to figure out how to input my own Google account username and
> > password, and get the G1 synced accordingly. However, there was no
> > apparent way to do this. My next thought was to at least try to
> > establishing network connectivity, after all, the G1 is has wifi
> > support (i.e. I should not need a carrier's data plan -- just a wifi
> > connection).
> > My plan was to connect to my own wifi network (using Mac OS X's
> > Airport "Internet Sharing"). This is where the problems started. First
> > of all, the name of my network (in the list of wifi networks) was
> > appearing and disappearing, yet I was right in front of the laptop
> > serving wifi. Moving away, to other parts of the apartment, did not
> > alter this flaky behaviour. Just from that experience, I was starting
> > to feel uneasy, as I've never had a problem with other devices sharing
> > my wifi signal. The connection would get established periodically,
> > with a private IP address obtained! I then clicked "home", opened the
> > "browser", and couldn't load the google home page. Two hours of
> > efforts were futile -- the G1 simply would not load google.com (or any
> > website for that matter). Note that my other laptop had no problem
> > connecting to the same wifi network.
> > At last I was frustrated enough that I thought that perhaps there was
> > some setting that I was not aware of that was causing this issue. So I
> > found the "reset" option somewhere in the G1's "settings". A dialog
> > warned that all the data would be erased, but I didn't mind because I
> > hadn't loaded any data. Following a power cycle, the device showed an
> > animation of a box and a G1 being removed from within (presumably to
> > indicate that this is an "out of the box" state). I only ever got to
> > see this out-of-the-box animation that one time. From that point on, I
> > have been stuck in the following "activation" loop:
> > (1) A screen with the Android logo, "Welcome to T-Mobile G1" and
> > "Touch the android to begin." Touching the android shows a screen
> > titled "Setting up your T-Mobile G1", and then the on-screen buttons
> > are "Emergency dial" and "Next". The physical "menu" button brings up
> > one item: "APN settings".
> > (2) Touching "Next" brings up a screen with two buttons -- one to
> > "Create" a Google account, and one to "Sign in". Again, the physical
> > "menu" button brings up only the APN settings item. As I have a Google
> > account, I touch "Next", which brings me to a sign-in screen.
> > (3) The sign-in screen has two text fields: username and password. The
> > on-screen buttons are "Back" and "Sign in". The physical "menu"
> > buttons still only has APN settings.
> > (4) When I attempt to sign in, the screen says "Signing in...", "Your
> > phone is communicating with Google servers and setting up your
> > account. This may take up to five minutes." There is a kind-of
> > progress bar and the process times out within a minute.
> > (5) The screen following the time out says "There is a problem
> > communicating with the Google servers.", "This could be a temporary
> > problem or your SIM card may not be provisioned for data services. If
> > it continues, call Customer Care." There is a "Try again" button, and
> > the usual "APN settings" menu.
> > (6) The "APN settings" menu has a list of APNs, and a submenu "New
> > APN".
> > That's it. That's my loop. I cannot get to the "HOME" screen. I've
> > talked to the following support lines:
> > - Fido technical support
> > - Rogers support
> > - T-Mobile's technical support
> > - HTC
> > - Google (yes, I've even called Google, and I was told that they don't
> > support the G1, and that T-Mobile wanted to handle the support)
> > I've even gone to Fido and Rogers stores, and used their in-store data-
> > provisioned SIM cards to no avail.
> > I have also eased the APN process by deleting all the T-Mobile APNs,
> > and just working on one Fido APN setting at a time. Why you ask?
> > Because not even Fido has a definitive answer for what their settings
> > are. Try surfing the web for this info, and you will see a variety of
> > settings. The only way for me to be somewhat sure that I have the
> > right settings is to have deleted all the APNs, and then adjusted one
> > variable at a time -- my indicator of success is the GPRS/EDGE
> > "service connected, data flowing" icons. When I have a good setting,
> > those icons show up, and once in a while light up the up-arrow or down-
> > arrow. When I have a bad setting, those icons don't appear. Based on
> > this, a setting that seems to work is:
> > The Mobile Country Code (MCC) and Mobile Network Code (MNC) are both
> > filled automatically, based on my Fido SIM card. When I put the Rogers
> > SIM card in, those two numbers were automatically different (for the
> > "new" APN I created.
> > So that's pretty much the bulk of my situation with the G1. It is
> > currently a brick. And it totally blows my mind that there is no way
> > around this activation loop. Like, why shouldn't I be able to use this
> > device without activation?
> > Has anyone else seen similar problems? I've seen some people mention
> > similar things on various forums, but I would like to hear what the
> > developers think. Does anyone have any ideas about what I should try
> > next?
> > In a week I will be going to a T-Mobile store across the boarder, and
> > trying their T-Mobile G1-data provisioned SIM card. Other than waiting
> > another week, I have no idea what else to try.
Vladimir, you only need data access for the 5 minute activation
process. Beyond activation, the data plan is only necessary for
"always-on-networking"; however, if you do not care for always-on-
networking, you can definitely just use Wi-Fi networking
intermittently -- that is, whenever you obtain a Wi-Fi signal (an open
one, or one that you have a password for).
Indeed, as Michael answered, there is no way for your carrier to know
that you are using Wi-Fi. If money is tight, do not hesitate to cancel
your data plan. As long as you have a Wi-Fi router at home, you'll be
fine.
I sense a bit of underlying fear in your second question -- fear of
the carrier. I share your sentiment, and believe that most subscribers
do too. The reason is that the carriers have traditionally held the
power due to the lack of regional competition -- they mostly exist in
regional monopolies -- and any violation of their rules normally
results in monetary penalties. I believe that Google recognizes this,
and is addressing this issue in a meaningful way -- they have filed a
patent for "devices, systems and methods" that would automatically
poll nearby wireless services to find the best price for a voice or a
data connection: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/google-files-pa.html
@Alex,
you're right - it is always a monopoly. I was surprised to find out
that I basically have only two expensive choices for broadband
Internet connection: Verizon DSL or Comcast cable. Hopefully it will
change some time... Barac said something about importance of broadband
Internet connection for US economy :)
On Dec 17, 1:51 pm, Alex B <alexba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I sense a bit of underlying fear in your second question -- fear of
> the carrier. I share your sentiment, and believe that most subscribers
> do too. The reason is that the carriers have traditionally held the
> power due to the lack of regional competition -- they mostly exist in
> regional monopolies -- and any violation of their rules normally
> results in monetary penalties. I believe that Google recognizes this,
> and is addressing this issue in a meaningful way -- they have filed a
> patent for "devices, systems and methods" that would automatically
> poll nearby wireless services to find the best price for a voice or a
> data connection:http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/09/google-files-pa.html
Hey, I have a G1 phone unlocked and I have this problem "There is a
problem communicating with the Google servers... etc". I did as said
above and deleted all APN's then added 'wap.cingular'. This still will
not work for me, I would be very grateful for any solutions or
suggestions as I now have a brand new phone which will not function!
Thanks, please get back to me a.s.a.p
On 25 Nov 2008, 01:58, Mark K <mark.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was able to get an unlocked G1 phone onto ATT without an AT&T
> data plan. I had to add 'wap.cingular' as an apn, only had to provide
> 'wap.cingular' no other fields. I was then able to log on with my
> google account and boot the phone, which currently uses only wifi for
> data . I guess the crux is you need to access an apn to do the initial
> google account login, then once the phone is set up, you can use only
> wifi.
> M
> On Nov 24, 4:26 pm, Alex B <alexba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Has anyone been able to surf the web from their G1 *strictly* via Wi-
> > Fi?
> > ... how about, the wifi network created by their Mac laptop's Airport
> > Internet Sharing?
> > Has anyone in Canada been able to successfully connect via Fido (or
> > any other carrier)?
> > I am a developer in Canada -- and we don't have T-Mobile here -- so I
> > purchased an unlocked G1 on eBay (CAN$820 or US$665 for the device,
> > unlocking, shipping, and taxes). The phone arrived and worked as
> > expected according to a few minutes of superficial use without
> > networking being involved. The phone was unlocked by the eBay seller,
> > and the notification bar had a message saying that there was a problem
> > syncing (to the eBay seller's gmail account). Naturally there was a
> > problem syncing, because no networking was turned on. I decided to try
> > to figure out how to input my own Google account username and
> > password, and get the G1 synced accordingly. However, there was no
> > apparent way to do this. My next thought was to at least try to
> > establishing network connectivity, after all, the G1 is has wifi
> > support (i.e. I should not need a carrier's data plan -- just a wifi
> > connection).
> > My plan was to connect to my own wifi network (using Mac OS X's
> > Airport "Internet Sharing"). This is where the problems started. First
> > of all, the name of my network (in the list of wifi networks) was
> > appearing and disappearing, yet I was right in front of the laptop
> > serving wifi. Moving away, to other parts of the apartment, did not
> > alter this flaky behaviour. Just from that experience, I was starting
> > to feel uneasy, as I've never had a problem with other devices sharing
> > my wifi signal. The connection would get established periodically,
> > with a private IP address obtained! I then clicked "home", opened the
> > "browser", and couldn't load the google home page. Two hours of
> > efforts were futile -- the G1 simply would not load google.com (or any
> > website for that matter). Note that my other laptop had no problem
> > connecting to the same wifi network.
> > At last I was frustrated enough that I thought that perhaps there was
> > some setting that I was not aware of that was causing this issue. So I
> > found the "reset" option somewhere in the G1's "settings". A dialog
> > warned that all the data would be erased, but I didn't mind because I
> > hadn't loaded any data. Following a power cycle, the device showed an
> > animation of a box and a G1 being removed from within (presumably to
> > indicate that this is an "out of the box" state). I only ever got to
> > see this out-of-the-box animation that one time. From that point on, I
> > have been stuck in the following "activation" loop:
> > (1) A screen with the Android logo, "Welcome to T-Mobile G1" and
> > "Touch the android to begin." Touching the android shows a screen
> > titled "Setting up your T-Mobile G1", and then the on-screen buttons
> > are "Emergency dial" and "Next". The physical "menu" button brings up
> > one item: "APN settings".
> > (2) Touching "Next" brings up a screen with two buttons -- one to
> > "Create" a Google account, and one to "Sign in". Again, the physical
> > "menu" button brings up only the APN settings item. As I have a Google
> > account, I touch "Next", which brings me to a sign-in screen.
> > (3) The sign-in screen has two text fields: username and password. The
> > on-screen buttons are "Back" and "Sign in". The physical "menu"
> > buttons still only has APN settings.
> > (4) When I attempt to sign in, the screen says "Signing in...", "Your
> > phone is communicating with Google servers and setting up your
> > account. This may take up to five minutes." There is a kind-of
> > progress bar and the process times out within a minute.
> > (5) The screen following the time out says "There is a problem
> > communicating with the Google servers.", "This could be a temporary
> > problem or your SIM card may not be provisioned for data services. If
> > it continues, call Customer Care." There is a "Try again" button, and
> > the usual "APN settings" menu.
> > (6) The "APN settings" menu has a list of APNs, and a submenu "New
> > APN".
> > That's it. That's my loop. I cannot get to the "HOME" screen. I've
> > talked to the following support lines:
> > - Fido technical support
> > - Rogers support
> > - T-Mobile's technical support
> > - HTC
> > - Google (yes, I've even called Google, and I was told that they don't
> > support the G1, and that T-Mobile wanted to handle the support)
> > I've even gone to Fido and Rogers stores, and used their in-store data-
> > provisioned SIM cards to no avail.
> > I have also eased the APN process by deleting all the T-Mobile APNs,
> > and just working on one Fido APN setting at a time. Why you ask?
> > Because not even Fido has a definitive answer for what their settings
> > are. Try surfing the web for this info, and you will see a variety of
> > settings. The only way for me to be somewhat sure that I have the
> > right settings is to have deleted all the APNs, and then adjusted one
> > variable at a time -- my indicator of success is the GPRS/EDGE
> > "service connected, data flowing" icons. When I have a good setting,
> > those icons show up, and once in a while light up the up-arrow or down-
> > arrow. When I have a bad setting, those icons don't appear. Based on
> > this, a setting that seems to work is:
> > The Mobile Country Code (MCC) and Mobile Network Code (MNC) are both
> > filled automatically, based on my Fido SIM card. When I put the Rogers
> > SIM card in, those two numbers were automatically different (for the
> > "new" APN I created.
> > So that's pretty much the bulk of my situation with the G1. It is
> > currently a brick. And it totally blows my mind that there is no way
> > around this activation loop. Like, why shouldn't I be able to use this
> > device without activation?
> > Has anyone else seen similar problems? I've seen some people mention
> > similar things on various forums, but I would like to hear what the
> > developers think. Does anyone have any ideas about what I should try
> > next?
> > In a week I will be going to a T-Mobile store across the boarder, and
> > trying their T-Mobile G1-data provisioned SIM card. Other than waiting
> > another week, I have no idea what else to try.
> Hey, I have a G1 phone unlocked and I have this problem "There is a
> problem communicating with the Google servers... etc". I did as said
> above and deleted all APN's then added 'wap.cingular'. This still will
> not work for me, I would be very grateful for any solutions or
> suggestions as I now have a brand new phone which will not function!
> Thanks, please get back to me a.s.a.p
> On 25 Nov 2008, 01:58, Mark K <mark.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was able to get an unlocked G1 phone onto ATT without an AT&T
> > data plan. I had to add 'wap.cingular' as an apn, only had to provide
> > 'wap.cingular' no other fields. I was then able to log on with my
> > google account and boot the phone, which currently uses only wifi for
> > data . I guess the crux is you need to access an apn to do the initial
> > google account login, then once the phone is set up, you can use only
> > wifi.
> > M
> > On Nov 24, 4:26 pm, Alex B <alexba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Has anyone been able to surf the web from their G1 *strictly* via Wi-
> > > Fi?
> > > ... how about, the wifi network created by their Mac laptop's Airport
> > > Internet Sharing?
> > > Has anyone in Canada been able to successfully connect via Fido (or
> > > any other carrier)?
> > > I am a developer in Canada -- and we don't have T-Mobile here -- so I
> > > purchased an unlocked G1 on eBay (CAN$820 or US$665 for the device,
> > > unlocking, shipping, and taxes). The phone arrived and worked as
> > > expected according to a few minutes of superficial use without
> > > networking being involved. The phone was unlocked by the eBay seller,
> > > and the notification bar had a message saying that there was a problem
> > > syncing (to the eBay seller's gmail account). Naturally there was a
> > > problem syncing, because no networking was turned on. I decided to try
> > > to figure out how to input my own Google account username and
> > > password, and get the G1 synced accordingly. However, there was no
> > > apparent way to do this. My next thought was to at least try to
> > > establishing network connectivity, after all, the G1 is has wifi
> > > support (i.e. I should not need a carrier's data plan -- just a wifi
> > > connection).
> > > My plan was to connect to my own wifi network (using Mac OS X's
> > > Airport "Internet Sharing"). This is where the problems started. First
> > > of all, the name of my network (in the list of wifi networks) was
> > > appearing and disappearing, yet I was right in front of the laptop
> > > serving wifi. Moving away, to other parts of the apartment, did not
> > > alter this flaky behaviour. Just from that experience, I was starting
> > > to feel uneasy, as I've never had a problem with other devices sharing
> > > my wifi signal. The connection would get established periodically,
> > > with a private IP address obtained! I then clicked "home", opened the
> > > "browser", and couldn't load the google home page. Two hours of
> > > efforts were futile -- the G1 simply would not load google.com (or any
> > > website for that matter). Note that my other laptop had no problem
> > > connecting to the same wifi network.
> > > At last I was frustrated enough that I thought that perhaps there was
> > > some setting that I was not aware of that was causing this issue. So I
> > > found the "reset" option somewhere in the G1's "settings". A dialog
> > > warned that all the data would be erased, but I didn't mind because I
> > > hadn't loaded any data. Following a power cycle, the device showed an
> > > animation of a box and a G1 being removed from within (presumably to
> > > indicate that this is an "out of the box" state). I only ever got to
> > > see this out-of-the-box animation that one time. From that point on, I
> > > have been stuck in the following "activation" loop:
> > > (1) A screen with the Android logo, "Welcome to T-Mobile G1" and
> > > "Touch the android to begin." Touching the android shows a screen
> > > titled "Setting up your T-Mobile G1", and then the on-screen buttons
> > > are "Emergency dial" and "Next". The physical "menu" button brings up
> > > one item: "APN settings".
> > > (2) Touching "Next" brings up a screen with two buttons -- one to
> > > "Create" a Google account, and one to "Sign in". Again, the physical
> > > "menu" button brings up only the APN settings item. As I have a Google
> > > account, I touch "Next", which brings me to a sign-in screen.
> > > (3) The sign-in screen has two text fields: username and password. The
> > > on-screen buttons are "Back" and "Sign in". The physical "menu"
> > > buttons still only has APN settings.
> > > (4) When I attempt to sign in, the screen says "Signing in...", "Your
> > > phone is communicating with Google servers and setting up your
> > > account. This may take up to five minutes." There is a kind-of
> > > progress bar and the process times out within a minute.
> > > (5) The screen following the time out says "There is a problem
> > > communicating with the Google servers.", "This could be a temporary
> > > problem or your SIM card may not be provisioned for data services. If
> > > it continues, call Customer Care." There is a "Try again" button, and
> > > the usual "APN settings" menu.
> > > (6) The "APN settings" menu has a list of APNs, and a submenu "New
> > > APN".
> > > That's it. That's my loop. I cannot get to the "HOME" screen. I've
> > > talked to the following support lines:
> > > - Fido technical support
> > > - Rogers support
> > > - T-Mobile's technical support
> > > - HTC
> > > - Google (yes, I've even called Google, and I was told that they don't
> > > support the G1, and that T-Mobile wanted to handle the support)
> > > I've even gone to Fido and Rogers stores, and used their in-store data-
> > > provisioned SIM cards to no avail.
> > > I have also eased the APN process by deleting all the T-Mobile APNs,
> > > and just working on one Fido APN setting at a time. Why you ask?
> > > Because not even Fido has a definitive answer for what their settings
> > > are. Try surfing the web for this info, and you will see a variety of
> > > settings. The only way for me to be somewhat sure that I have the
> > > right settings is to have deleted all the APNs, and then adjusted one
> > > variable at a time -- my indicator of success is the GPRS/EDGE
> > > "service connected, data flowing" icons. When I have a good setting,
> > > those icons show up, and once in a while light up the up-arrow or down-
> > > arrow. When I have a bad setting, those icons don't appear. Based on
> > > this, a setting that seems to work is:
> > > The Mobile Country Code (MCC) and Mobile Network Code (MNC) are both
> > > filled automatically, based on my Fido SIM card. When I put the Rogers
> > > SIM card in, those two numbers were automatically different (for the
> > > "new" APN I created.
> > > So that's pretty much the bulk of my situation with the G1. It is
> > > currently a brick. And it totally blows my mind that there is no way
> > > around this activation loop. Like, why shouldn't I be able to use this
> > > device without activation?
> > > Has anyone else seen similar problems? I've seen some people mention
> > > similar things on various forums, but I would like to hear what the
> > > developers think. Does anyone have any ideas about what I should try
> > > next?
> > > In a week I will be going to a T-Mobile store across the boarder, and
> > > trying their T-Mobile G1-data provisioned SIM card. Other than waiting
> > > another week, I have no idea what else to try.
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:58 PM, subclubharri
> <subclubha...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> > Hey, I have a G1 phone unlocked and I have this problem "There is a
> > problem communicating with the Google servers... etc". I did as said
> > above and deleted all APN's then added 'wap.cingular'. This still will
> > not work for me, I would be very grateful for any solutions or
> > suggestions as I now have a brand new phone which will not function!
> > Thanks, please get back to me a.s.a.p
> > On 25 Nov 2008, 01:58, Mark K <mark.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I was able to get an unlocked G1 phone onto ATT without an AT&T
> > > data plan. I had to add 'wap.cingular' as an apn, only had to provide
> > > 'wap.cingular' no other fields. I was then able to log on with my
> > > google account and boot the phone, which currently uses only wifi for
> > > data . I guess the crux is you need to access an apn to do the initial
> > > google account login, then once the phone is set up, you can use only
> > > wifi.
> > > M
> > > On Nov 24, 4:26 pm, Alex B <alexba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Has anyone been able to surf the web from their G1 *strictly* via Wi-
> > > > Fi?
> > > > ... how about, the wifi network created by their Mac laptop's Airport
> > > > Internet Sharing?
> > > > Has anyone in Canada been able to successfully connect via Fido (or
> > > > any other carrier)?
> > > > I am a developer in Canada -- and we don't have T-Mobile here -- so I
> > > > purchased an unlocked G1 on eBay (CAN$820 or US$665 for the device,
> > > > unlocking, shipping, and taxes). The phone arrived and worked as
> > > > expected according to a few minutes of superficial use without
> > > > networking being involved. The phone was unlocked by the eBay seller,
> > > > and the notification bar had a message saying that there was a problem
> > > > syncing (to the eBay seller's gmail account). Naturally there was a
> > > > problem syncing, because no networking was turned on. I decided to try
> > > > to figure out how to input my own Google account username and
> > > > password, and get the G1 synced accordingly. However, there was no
> > > > apparent way to do this. My next thought was to at least try to
> > > > establishing network connectivity, after all, the G1 is has wifi
> > > > support (i.e. I should not need a carrier's data plan -- just a wifi
> > > > connection).
> > > > My plan was to connect to my own wifi network (using Mac OS X's
> > > > Airport "Internet Sharing"). This is where the problems started. First
> > > > of all, the name of my network (in the list of wifi networks) was
> > > > appearing and disappearing, yet I was right in front of the laptop
> > > > serving wifi. Moving away, to other parts of the apartment, did not
> > > > alter this flaky behaviour. Just from that experience, I was starting
> > > > to feel uneasy, as I've never had a problem with other devices sharing
> > > > my wifi signal. The connection would get established periodically,
> > > > with a private IP address obtained! I then clicked "home", opened the
> > > > "browser", and couldn't load the google home page. Two hours of
> > > > efforts were futile -- the G1 simply would not load google.com (or any
> > > > website for that matter). Note that my other laptop had no problem
> > > > connecting to the same wifi network.
> > > > At last I was frustrated enough that I thought that perhaps there was
> > > > some setting that I was not aware of that was causing this issue. So I
> > > > found the "reset" option somewhere in the G1's "settings". A dialog
> > > > warned that all the data would be erased, but I didn't mind because I
> > > > hadn't loaded any data. Following a power cycle, the device showed an
> > > > animation of a box and a G1 being removed from within (presumably to
> > > > indicate that this is an "out of the box" state). I only ever got to
> > > > see this out-of-the-box animation that one time. From that point on, I
> > > > have been stuck in the following "activation" loop:
> > > > (1) A screen with the Android logo, "Welcome to T-Mobile G1" and
> > > > "Touch the android to begin." Touching the android shows a screen
> > > > titled "Setting up your T-Mobile G1", and then the on-screen buttons
> > > > are "Emergency dial" and "Next". The physical "menu" button brings up
> > > > one item: "APN settings".
> > > > (2) Touching "Next" brings up a screen with two buttons -- one to
> > > > "Create" a Google account, and one to "Sign in". Again, the physical
> > > > "menu" button brings up only the APN settings item. As I have a Google
> > > > account, I touch "Next", which brings me to a sign-in screen.
> > > > (3) The sign-in screen has two text fields: username and password. The
> > > > on-screen buttons are "Back" and "Sign in". The physical "menu"
> > > > buttons still only has APN settings.
> > > > (4) When I attempt to sign in, the screen says "Signing in...", "Your
> > > > phone is communicating with Google servers and setting up your
> > > > account. This may take up to five minutes." There is a kind-of
> > > > progress bar and the process times out within a minute.
> > > > (5) The screen following the time out says "There is a problem
> > > > communicating with the Google servers.", "This could be a temporary
> > > > problem or your SIM card may not be provisioned for data services. If
> > > > it continues, call Customer Care." There is a "Try again" button, and
> > > > the usual "APN settings" menu.
> > > > (6) The "APN settings" menu has a list of APNs, and a submenu "New
> > > > APN".
> > > > That's it. That's my loop. I cannot get to the "HOME" screen. I've
> > > > talked to the following support lines:
> > > > - Fido technical support
> > > > - Rogers support
> > > > - T-Mobile's technical support
> > > > - HTC
> > > > - Google (yes, I've even called Google, and I was told that they don't
> > > > support the G1, and that T-Mobile wanted to handle the support)
> > > > I've even gone to Fido and Rogers stores, and used their in-store data-
> > > > provisioned SIM cards to no avail.
> > > > I have also eased the APN process by deleting all the T-Mobile APNs,
> > > > and just working on one Fido APN setting at a time. Why you ask?
> > > > Because not even Fido has a definitive answer for what their settings
> > > > are. Try surfing the web for this info, and you will see a variety of
> > > > settings. The only way for me to be somewhat sure that I have the
> > > > right settings is to have deleted all the APNs, and then adjusted one
> > > > variable at a time -- my indicator of success is the GPRS/EDGE
> > > > "service connected, data flowing" icons. When I have a good setting,
> > > > those icons show up, and once in a while light up the up-arrow or down-
> > > > arrow. When I have a bad setting, those icons don't appear. Based on
> > > > this, a setting that seems to work is:
> > > > The Mobile Country Code (MCC) and Mobile Network Code (MNC) are both
> > > > filled automatically, based on my Fido SIM card. When I put the Rogers
> > > > SIM card in, those two numbers were automatically different (for the
> > > > "new" APN I created.
> > > > So that's pretty much the bulk of my situation with the G1. It is
> > > > currently a brick. And it totally blows my mind that there is no way
> > > > around this activation loop. Like, why shouldn't I be able to use this
> > > > device without activation?
> > > > Has anyone else seen similar problems? I've seen some people mention
> > > > similar things on various forums, but I would like to hear what the
> > > > developers think. Does anyone have any ideas about what I should try
> > > > next?
> > > > In a week I will be going to a T-Mobile store across the boarder, and
> > > > trying their T-Mobile G1-data provisioned SIM card. Other than waiting
> > > > another week, I have no idea what else to try.
Hi Guys,
Got my G1 unlocked developer phone. Here is what I did to get it to
work with AT&T network
1. Deleted all the existing APNs
2. Added a new APN: wap.cingular ( just one entry )
Give it a try and it should work. Good luck !
On Jan 12, 11:24 am, subclubharri <subclubha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hey, that link isn't working for me?! I have an o2 pay&go sim. Should
> these settings still work? Please could you try posting the link
> again, thanks!
> On Jan 8, 4:10 am, "Joel Knighton" <joel.knigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:58 PM, subclubharri
> > <subclubha...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> > > Hey, I have aG1phone unlocked and I have this problem "There is a
> > > problem communicating with the Google servers... etc". I did as said
> > > above and deleted all APN's then added 'wap.cingular'. This still will
> > > not work for me, I would be very grateful for any solutions or
> > > suggestions as I now have a brand new phone which will not function!
> > > Thanks, please get back to me a.s.a.p
> > > On 25 Nov 2008, 01:58, Mark K <mark.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I was able to get an unlockedG1phone ontoATTwithout an AT&T
> > > > data plan. I had to add 'wap.cingular' as an apn, only had to provide
> > > > 'wap.cingular' no other fields. I was then able to log on with my
> > > > google account and boot the phone, which currently uses only wifi for
> > > > data . I guess the crux is you need to access an apn to do the initial
> > > > google account login, then once the phone is set up, you can use only
> > > > wifi.
> > > > M
> > > > On Nov 24, 4:26 pm, Alex B <alexba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Has anyone been able to surf the web from theirG1*strictly* via Wi-
> > > > > Fi?
> > > > > ... how about, the wifi network created by their Mac laptop's Airport
> > > > > Internet Sharing?
> > > > > Has anyone in Canada been able to successfully connect via Fido (or
> > > > > any other carrier)?
> > > > > I am a developer in Canada -- and we don't have T-Mobile here -- so I
> > > > > purchased an unlockedG1on eBay (CAN$820 or US$665 for the device,
> > > > > unlocking, shipping, and taxes). The phone arrived and worked as
> > > > > expected according to a few minutes of superficial use without
> > > > > networking being involved. The phone was unlocked by the eBay seller,
> > > > > and the notification bar had a message saying that there was a problem
> > > > > syncing (to the eBay seller's gmail account). Naturally there was a
> > > > > problem syncing, because no networking was turned on. I decided to try
> > > > > to figure out how to input my own Google account username and
> > > > > password, and get theG1synced accordingly. However, there was no
> > > > > apparent way to do this. My next thought was to at least try to
> > > > > establishing network connectivity, after all, theG1is has wifi
> > > > > support (i.e. I should not need a carrier's data plan -- just a wifi
> > > > > connection).
> > > > > My plan was to connect to my own wifi network (using Mac OS X's
> > > > > Airport "Internet Sharing"). This is where the problems started. First
> > > > > of all, the name of my network (in the list of wifi networks) was
> > > > > appearing and disappearing, yet I was right in front of the laptop
> > > > > serving wifi. Moving away, to other parts of the apartment, did not
> > > > > alter this flaky behaviour. Just from that experience, I was starting
> > > > > to feel uneasy, as I've never had a problem with other devices sharing
> > > > > my wifi signal. The connection would get established periodically,
> > > > > with a private IP address obtained! I then clicked "home", opened the
> > > > > "browser", and couldn't load the google home page. Two hours of
> > > > > efforts were futile -- theG1simply would not load google.com (or any
> > > > > website for that matter). Note that my other laptop had no problem
> > > > > connecting to the same wifi network.
> > > > > At last I was frustrated enough that I thought that perhaps there was
> > > > > some setting that I was not aware of that was causing this issue. So I
> > > > > found the "reset" option somewhere in theG1's"settings". A dialog
> > > > > warned that all the data would be erased, but I didn't mind because I
> > > > > hadn't loaded any data. Following a power cycle, the device showed an
> > > > > animation of a box and aG1being removed from within (presumably to
> > > > > indicate that this is an "out of the box" state). I only ever got to
> > > > > see this out-of-the-box animation that one time. From that point on, I
> > > > > have been stuck in the following "activation" loop:
> > > > > (1) A screen with the Android logo, "Welcome to T-MobileG1" and
> > > > > "Touch the android to begin." Touching the android shows a screen
> > > > > titled "Setting up your T-MobileG1", and then the on-screen buttons
> > > > > are "Emergency dial" and "Next". The physical "menu" button brings up
> > > > > one item: "APN settings".
> > > > > (2) Touching "Next" brings up a screen with two buttons -- one to
> > > > > "Create" a Google account, and one to "Sign in". Again, the physical
> > > > > "menu" button brings up only the APN settings item. As I have a Google
> > > > > account, I touch "Next", which brings me to a sign-in screen.
> > > > > (3) The sign-in screen has two text fields: username and password. The
> > > > > on-screen buttons are "Back" and "Sign in". The physical "menu"
> > > > > buttons still only has APN settings.
> > > > > (4) When I attempt to sign in, the screen says "Signing in...", "Your
> > > > > phone is communicating with Google servers and setting up your
> > > > > account. This may take up to five minutes." There is a kind-of
> > > > > progress bar and the process times out within a minute.
> > > > > (5) The screen following the time out says "There is a problem
> > > > > communicating with the Google servers.", "This could be a temporary
> > > > > problem or your SIM card may not be provisioned for data services. If
> > > > > it continues, call Customer Care." There is a "Try again" button, and
> > > > > the usual "APN settings" menu.
> > > > > (6) The "APN settings" menu has a list of APNs, and a submenu "New
> > > > > APN".
> > > > > That's it. That's my loop. I cannot get to the "HOME" screen. I've
> > > > > talked to the following support lines:
> > > > > - Fido technical support
> > > > > - Rogers support
> > > > > - T-Mobile's technical support
> > > > > - HTC
> > > > > - Google (yes, I've even called Google, and I was told that they don't
> > > > > support theG1, and that T-Mobile wanted to handle the support)
> > > > > I've even gone to Fido and Rogers stores, and used their in-store data-
> > > > > provisioned SIM cards to no avail.
> > > > > I have also eased the APN process by deleting all the T-Mobile APNs,
> > > > > and just working on one Fido APN setting at a time. Why you ask?
> > > > > Because not even Fido has a definitive answer for what their settings
> > > > > are. Try surfing the web for this info, and you will see a variety of
> > > > > settings. The only way for me to be somewhat sure that I have the
> > > > > right settings is to have deleted all the APNs, and then adjusted one
> > > > > variable at a time -- my indicator of success is the GPRS/EDGE
> > > > > "service connected, data flowing" icons. When I have a good setting,
> > > > > those icons show up, and once in a while light up the up-arrow or down-
> > > > > arrow. When I have a bad setting, those icons don't appear. Based on
> > > > > this, a setting that seems to work is:
> > > > > The Mobile Country Code (MCC) and Mobile Network Code (MNC) are both
> > > > > filled automatically, based on my Fido SIM card. When I put the Rogers
> > > > > SIM card in, those two numbers were automatically different (for the
> > > > > "new" APN I created.
> > > > > So that's pretty much the bulk of my situation with theG1. It is
> > > > > currently a brick. And it totally blows my mind that there is no way
> > > > > around this activation loop. Like, why shouldn't I be able to use this
> > > > > device without activation?
> > > > > Has anyone else seen similar problems? I've seen some people mention
> > > > > similar things on various forums, but I would like to hear what the
> > > > > developers think. Does anyone have any ideas about what I should try
> > > > > next?
> > > > > In a week I will be going to a T-Mobile store across the boarder, and
> > > > > trying their T-MobileG1-data provisioned SIM card. Other than waiting
> > > > > another week, I have no idea what else to try.
I've just unlocked my G1. I'm on rogers and have tried all the
different APN's that i've found online. I still can't bypass the
activation screen. I tried calling rogers and the rep said I could
only put on the 2mb data plan and so i'm thinking maybe this data plan
is the reason I can't connect to the google servers for activation. I
read somewhere else that i need the Iphone data plan but the rep says
I need an iphone IMEI or s/n for him to put me on that plan. What can
I do to activate this damn thing. So frustrating. Any help would be
much appreciated. Ofir.vais...@kwantlen.net
Thanks
On Jan 20, 8:16 pm, Murali <muraa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> Got myG1unlocked developer phone. Here is what I did to get it to
> work with AT&T network
> 1. Deleted all the existing APNs
> 2. Added a new APN: wap.cingular ( just one entry )
> Give it a try and it should work. Good luck !
> On Jan 12, 11:24 am, subclubharri <subclubha...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hey, that link isn't working for me?! I have an o2 pay&go sim. Should
> > these settings still work? Please could you try posting the link
> > again, thanks!
> > On Jan 8, 4:10 am, "Joel Knighton" <joel.knigh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:58 PM, subclubharri
> > > <subclubha...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> > > > Hey, I have aG1phone unlocked and I have this problem "There is a
> > > > problem communicating with the Google servers... etc". I did as said
> > > > above and deleted all APN's then added 'wap.cingular'. This still will
> > > > not work for me, I would be very grateful for any solutions or
> > > > suggestions as I now have a brand new phone which will not function!
> > > > Thanks, please get back to me a.s.a.p
> > > > On 25 Nov 2008, 01:58, Mark K <mark.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I was able to get an unlockedG1phone ontoATTwithout an AT&T
> > > > > data plan. I had to add 'wap.cingular' as an apn, only had to provide
> > > > > 'wap.cingular' no other fields. I was then able to log on with my
> > > > > google account and boot the phone, which currently uses only wifi for
> > > > > data . I guess the crux is you need to access an apn to do the initial
> > > > > google account login, then once the phone is set up, you can use only
> > > > > wifi.
> > > > > M
> > > > > On Nov 24, 4:26 pm, Alex B <alexba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Has anyone been able to surf the web from theirG1*strictly* via Wi-
> > > > > > Fi?
> > > > > > ... how about, the wifi network created by their Mac laptop's Airport
> > > > > > Internet Sharing?
> > > > > > Has anyone in Canada been able to successfully connect via Fido (or
> > > > > > any other carrier)?
> > > > > > I am a developer in Canada -- and we don't have T-Mobile here -- so I
> > > > > > purchased an unlockedG1on eBay (CAN$820 or US$665 for the device,
> > > > > > unlocking, shipping, and taxes). The phone arrived and worked as
> > > > > > expected according to a few minutes of superficial use without
> > > > > > networking being involved. The phone was unlocked by the eBay seller,
> > > > > > and the notification bar had a message saying that there was a problem
> > > > > > syncing (to the eBay seller's gmail account). Naturally there was a
> > > > > > problem syncing, because no networking was turned on. I decided to try
> > > > > > to figure out how to input my own Google account username and
> > > > > > password, and get theG1synced accordingly. However, there was no
> > > > > > apparent way to do this. My next thought was to at least try to
> > > > > > establishing network connectivity, after all, theG1is has wifi
> > > > > > support (i.e. I should not need a carrier's data plan -- just a wifi
> > > > > > connection).
> > > > > > My plan was to connect to my own wifi network (using Mac OS X's
> > > > > > Airport "Internet Sharing"). This is where the problems started. First
> > > > > > of all, the name of my network (in the list of wifi networks) was
> > > > > > appearing and disappearing, yet I was right in front of the laptop
> > > > > > serving wifi. Moving away, to other parts of the apartment, did not
> > > > > > alter this flaky behaviour. Just from that experience, I was starting
> > > > > > to feel uneasy, as I've never had a problem with other devices sharing
> > > > > > my wifi signal. The connection would get established periodically,
> > > > > > with a private IP address obtained! I then clicked "home", opened the
> > > > > > "browser", and couldn't load the google home page. Two hours of
> > > > > > efforts were futile -- theG1simply would not load google.com (or any
> > > > > > website for that matter). Note that my other laptop had no problem
> > > > > > connecting to the same wifi network.
> > > > > > At last I was frustrated enough that I thought that perhaps there was
> > > > > > some setting that I was not aware of that was causing this issue. So I
> > > > > > found the "reset" option somewhere in theG1's"settings". A dialog
> > > > > > warned that all the data would be erased, but I didn't mind because I
> > > > > > hadn't loaded any data. Following a power cycle, the device showed an
> > > > > > animation of a box and aG1being removed from within (presumably to
> > > > > > indicate that this is an "out of the box" state). I only ever got to
> > > > > > see this out-of-the-box animation that one time. From that point on, I
> > > > > > have been stuck in the following "activation" loop:
> > > > > > (1) A screen with the Android logo, "Welcome to T-MobileG1" and
> > > > > > "Touch the android to begin." Touching the android shows a screen
> > > > > > titled "Setting up your T-MobileG1", and then the on-screen buttons
> > > > > > are "Emergency dial" and "Next". The physical "menu" button brings up
> > > > > > one item: "APN settings".
> > > > > > (2) Touching "Next" brings up a screen with two buttons -- one to
> > > > > > "Create" a Google account, and one to "Sign in". Again, the physical
> > > > > > "menu" button brings up only the APN settings item. As I have a Google
> > > > > > account, I touch "Next", which brings me to a sign-in screen.
> > > > > > (3) The sign-in screen has two text fields: username and password. The
> > > > > > on-screen buttons are "Back" and "Sign in". The physical "menu"
> > > > > > buttons still only has APN settings.
> > > > > > (4) When I attempt to sign in, the screen says "Signing in...", "Your
> > > > > > phone is communicating with Google servers and setting up your
> > > > > > account. This may take up to five minutes." There is a kind-of
> > > > > > progress bar and the process times out within a minute.
> > > > > > (5) The screen following the time out says "There is a problem
> > > > > > communicating with the Google servers.", "This could be a temporary
> > > > > > problem or your SIM card may not be provisioned for data services. If
> > > > > > it continues, call Customer Care." There is a "Try again" button, and
> > > > > > the usual "APN settings" menu.
> > > > > > (6) The "APN settings" menu has a list of APNs, and a submenu "New
> > > > > > APN".
> > > > > > That's it. That's my loop. I cannot get to the "HOME" screen. I've
> > > > > > talked to the following support lines:
> > > > > > - Fido technical support
> > > > > > -Rogerssupport
> > > > > > - T-Mobile's technical support
> > > > > > - HTC
> > > > > > - Google (yes, I've even called Google, and I was told that they don't
> > > > > > support theG1, and that T-Mobile wanted to handle the support)
> > > > > > I've even gone to Fido andRogersstores, and used their in-store data-
> > > > > > provisioned SIM cards to no avail.
> > > > > > I have also eased the APN process by deleting all the T-Mobile APNs,
> > > > > > and just working on one Fido APN setting at a time. Why you ask?
> > > > > > Because not even Fido has a definitive answer for what their settings
> > > > > > are. Try surfing the web for this info, and you will see a variety of
> > > > > > settings. The only way for me to be somewhat sure that I have the
> > > > > > right settings is to have deleted all the APNs, and then adjusted one
> > > > > > variable at a time -- my indicator of success is the GPRS/EDGE
> > > > > > "service connected, data flowing" icons. When I have a good setting,
> > > > > > those icons show up, and once in a while light up the up-arrow or down-
> > > > > > arrow. When I have a bad setting, those icons don't appear. Based on
> > > > > > this, a setting that seems to work is:
> > > > > > The Mobile Country Code (MCC) and Mobile Network Code (MNC) are both
> > > > > > filled automatically, based on my Fido SIM card. When I put theRogers
> > > > > > SIM card in, those two numbers were automatically different (for the
> > > > > > "new" APN I created.
> > > > > > So that's pretty much the bulk of my situation with theG1. It is
> > > > > > currently a brick. And it totally blows my mind that there is no way
> > > > > > around this activation loop. Like, why shouldn't I be able to use this
> > > > > > device without activation?
> > > > > > Has anyone else seen similar problems? I've seen some people mention
> > > > > > similar things on various forums, but I would like to hear what the
> > > > > > developers think. Does anyone have any ideas about what I should try
