Am I correct in ascertaining that the contest
is now closed to anyone who didn't hear about it
already? I thought I was reasonably well-informed,
but I admit I don't obsess over Google at all.
If I had known there was money to be won
I would have implemented a project I've been
working on.
Oh well. When will there be another contest open
to newcomers?
:-|
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Imhotep <various...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey folks,
> Am I correct in ascertaining that the contest > is now closed to anyone who didn't hear about it > already? I thought I was reasonably well-informed, > but I admit I don't obsess over Google at all. > If I had known there was money to be won > I would have implemented a project I've been > working on.
> Oh well. When will there be another contest open > to newcomers? > :-|
Hi Muthu
It was impossible for me travel to Google I/O to shake hands with you.
On Jun 2, 2:57 pm, "Muthu Ramadoss" <muthu.ramad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ADC 2 will be open early 2009.
Do you believe that first Android headsets will not be released until
2009?
According with Android challenge web page: “Android Developer
Challenge II: This contest will launch after the first handsets built
on the platform become available in the second half of 2008.”
Additional android delays could be cut market share. Apple will
release the new iPhone soon.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:36 AM, javqui <blicop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Muthu > It was impossible for me travel to Google I/O to shake hands with you.
> On Jun 2, 2:57 pm, "Muthu Ramadoss" <muthu.ramad...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ADC 2 will be open early 2009.
> Do you believe that first Android headsets will not be released until > 2009?
> According with Android challenge web page: "Android Developer > Challenge II: This contest will launch after the first handsets built > on the platform become available in the second half of 2008."
> Additional android delays could be cut market share. Apple will > release the new iPhone soon.
If you don't know for sure and you want to communicate to people of
Europe and US, it is better to use phrases like "I suppose that..", "I
think that...", "My suspicion is...", etc.
I know, in India this doesn't seem to be the rule (if you ask an
Indian cab driver if they know the address, they will say "yes" even
if you haven't told them yet where you want to go... and they will ask
you about the address after about an hour cruising around aimlessly...
and then ask people on the street where that may be...), but it would
be good to stick to common cultural guidelines at least in this
international forum.
Unless of course you want to spread rumors on purpose...
If my memory serves correctly, spring 2009 was mentioned by Google as
a probable date for ADC2 in the android fireside chat. (phones out
late 2008, contest end date in 2009 would fit the same timeline as
adc1)
like you said though it was only a guess, i think it was prefixed even
then by "guess" and "estimate"
i think engadget has video, or if they don't i know i saw it
somewhere, if you care...
i think the terse response was fine, same as the "no" response is fine
to all inquiries along the lines of "will android run on xxx phone?"
but i think it's just a matter of taste
On Jun 3, 12:02 am, Peli <peli0...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> If you don't know for sure and you want to communicate to people of
> Europe and US, it is better to use phrases like "I suppose that..", "I
> think that...", "My suspicion is...", etc.
> I know, in India this doesn't seem to be the rule (if you ask an
> Indian cab driver if they know the address, they will say "yes" even
> if you haven't told them yet where you want to go... and they will ask
> you about the address after about an hour cruising around aimlessly...
> and then ask people on the street where that may be...), but it would
> be good to stick to common cultural guidelines at least in this
> international forum.
> Unless of course you want to spread rumors on purpose...
Ok, I suppose given the above answer by itself, stated by someone
else, would presumably not have triggered my reply.
I simply wanted to take this opportunity to point out a general
possible misunderstanding based on varying socio-cultural expectations
that I have observed in threads involving the specific person
mentioned above, who shows a tendency to present rumors and opinions
in a way that may be understood by ingenuous readers as facts [1]. In
this particular case though the statement given may have been
completely in order.
I think just as the above terse response was fine, my general remark
about possible cultural misunderstandings should be fine as well :-)
> If my memory serves correctly, spring 2009 was mentioned by Google as
> a probable date for ADC2 in the android fireside chat. (phones out
> late 2008, contest end date in 2009 would fit the same timeline as
> adc1)
> like you said though it was only a guess, i think it was prefixed even
> then by "guess" and "estimate"
> i think engadget has video, or if they don't i know i saw it
> somewhere, if you care...
> i think the terse response was fine, same as the "no" response is fine
> to all inquiries along the lines of "will android run on xxx phone?"
> but i think it's just a matter of taste
> On Jun 3, 12:02 am, Peli <peli0...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Muthu,
> > > ADC 2 will be open early 2009.
> > If you don't know for sure and you want to communicate to people of
> > Europe and US, it is better to use phrases like "I suppose that..", "I
> > think that...", "My suspicion is...", etc.
> > I know, in India this doesn't seem to be the rule (if you ask an
> > Indian cab driver if they know the address, they will say "yes" even
> > if you haven't told them yet where you want to go... and they will ask
> > you about the address after about an hour cruising around aimlessly...
> > and then ask people on the street where that may be...), but it would
> > be good to stick to common cultural guidelines at least in this
> > international forum.
> > Unless of course you want to spread rumors on purpose...
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Peli <peli0...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Ok, I suppose given the above answer by itself, stated by someone > else, would presumably not have triggered my reply.
> I simply wanted to take this opportunity to point out a general > possible misunderstanding based on varying socio-cultural expectations > that I have observed in threads involving the specific person > mentioned above, who shows a tendency to present rumors and opinions > in a way that may be understood by ingenuous readers as facts [1]. In > this particular case though the statement given may have been > completely in order.
> I think just as the above terse response was fine, my general remark > about possible cultural misunderstandings should be fine as well :-)
> On Jun 3, 10:23 am, mickrobk <mickr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If my memory serves correctly, spring 2009 was mentioned by Google as > > a probable date for ADC2 in the android fireside chat. (phones out > > late 2008, contest end date in 2009 would fit the same timeline as > > adc1)
> > like you said though it was only a guess, i think it was prefixed even > > then by "guess" and "estimate"
> > i think engadget has video, or if they don't i know i saw it > > somewhere, if you care...
> > i think the terse response was fine, same as the "no" response is fine > > to all inquiries along the lines of "will android run on xxx phone?" > > but i think it's just a matter of taste
> > On Jun 3, 12:02 am, Peli <peli0...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > Muthu,
> > > > ADC 2 will be open early 2009.
> > > If you don't know for sure and you want to communicate to people of > > > Europe and US, it is better to use phrases like "I suppose that..", "I > > > think that...", "My suspicion is...", etc.
> > > I know, in India this doesn't seem to be the rule (if you ask an > > > Indian cab driver if they know the address, they will say "yes" even > > > if you haven't told them yet where you want to go... and they will ask > > > you about the address after about an hour cruising around aimlessly... > > > and then ask people on the street where that may be...), but it would > > > be good to stick to common cultural guidelines at least in this > > > international forum.
> > > Unless of course you want to spread rumors on purpose...
> If you don't know for sure and you want to communicate to people of
> Europe and US, it is better to use phrases like "I suppose that..", "I
> think that...", "My suspicion is...", etc.
> I know, in India this doesn't seem to be the rule (if you ask an
> Indian cab driver if they know the address, they will say "yes" even
> if you haven't told them yet where you want to go... and they will ask
> you about the address after about an hour cruising around aimlessly...
> and then ask people on the street where that may be...), but it would
> be good to stick to common cultural guidelines at least in this
> international forum.
> Unless of course you want to spread rumors on purpose...
> Peli
I agree with you. Muthu should state the source of his information.
Unfounded rumors only cause harm.
BTW the Indian cab driver simply saw an opportunity to run up the
meter
on a rich foreigner. I apologize, but that is the unfortunate state of
things in my home country.
>> I agree with you. Muthu should state the source of his information.
Hmm... I don't think so. If I were your position. I will post additional question to Muthu.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thank you Muthu, would you tell us that source of information? ------------------------------------------------------------------------
It is simplest solution! And I think it is communication at the board.
Rumors or truth, we should decide it by ourself. We should make effort to decide. And, we have responsibility for decision. I think that's all.
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Thank you Alex, would you tell us more about your experience?
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Peli ;-)
On 3 Jun., 19:20, Alex Pisarev <alex.pisa...@gmail.com> wrote:
