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Whitemice  
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From: Whitemice <markbr...@zedray.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:48:55 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 24 2009 12:48 pm
Subject: MARKET QUESTION: Selling applications on the Google Market.
I am a British national living in Germany who intends to start selling
Android Applications on the Market next month (to whoever can buy
them).

This presents me with a number of issues:

German developers can’t sell applications yet -> Therefore I should
register as a British developer (UK bank account, pay UK taxes, etc)
Individuals can’t register with Google checkout -> Therefore I should
register a new British business (publish UK address, file accounts,
etc)

Are both of these assumptions correct?
Is there an easier way of going about this?

Regard
Mark


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Sena Gbeckor-Kove  
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From: Sena Gbeckor-Kove <s...@imkon.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:24:17 +0200
Local: Fri, Apr 24 2009 2:24 pm
Subject: Re: [android-app-distribution] MARKET QUESTION: Selling applications on the Google Market.
Not really, you need the advice of a tax expert. For I have a UK  
company and a Dutch bank account for said company. However depending  
on the results of assessment (numerous criteria) I will have to apy  
Dutch tax (probably) It all depends on how its constructed.

Assume nothing.

S

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George | SlideME  
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 More options Apr 24, 7:37 pm
From: "George | SlideME" <george.slid...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:37:23 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 24 2009 7:37 pm
Subject: Re: MARKET QUESTION: Selling applications on the Google Market.
You may want to check if a UK registered company can bank in your
country where you file tax returns.
UK sourced income may need to be declared in Germany and since you do
not complete x amount of days in UK, you may or your company be
exempt. There are some forms of companies "Company Ltd as a UK-NON
resident" type of formation that could be of some benefit.

Second, check if Google will need you to have a UK bank account also
and if just a UK Ltd company will be enough. (They should not request
this for EU residents, but you never know). ie register for UK Ltd co
but with a bank for UK Ltd in Germany.
German banks should allow you to open an account for your UK Ltd co.
Check with banks too that have presence in UK & Germany if not.

You will need to also file for a VAT # for corp.

Plan before you proceed. Do consult, or feel free to ask for any help.

George

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Inderjeet Singh  
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 More options Apr 24, 7:56 pm
From: Inderjeet Singh <inder...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:56:52 -0700
Local: Fri, Apr 24 2009 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: [android-app-distribution] MARKET QUESTION: Selling applications on the Google Market.
You could also just wait for the support for German developers to
appear in the Android Market.
See the blogpost:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/02/android-market-update-...
Sure it is past Q1 and the support isnt there yet but hopefully it
will arrive soon.

Inder


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Whitemice  
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 More options Apr 25, 12:01 pm
From: Whitemice <markbr...@zedray.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 09:01:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Apr 25 2009 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: MARKET QUESTION: Selling applications on the Google Market.
Thank you all for your comments.

Despite having a UK bank account, citizenship, address, etc, it seems
that doing this in the tax systems of two countries is needlessly
complex.  Overall, I would rather pay tax to the German government as
that it where I earn may main living and derive services.

Over the medium term, I seem to lose out less by waiting on the
promised German market support; even if it’s currently delayed
(perhaps Google is having similar issues sorting through the tax
systems themselves?)

What I would like to see is some common guide (perhaps by
nationality), to act as a starting point for private developers
looking to lawfully sell applications over the market.  Right now it
reads like a FAQ.

Regards
Mark


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Zero  
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From: Zero <zeroo...@googlemail.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:27:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 27 2009 8:27 am
Subject: Re: MARKET QUESTION: Selling applications on the Google Market.
Hi
It's pretty common operation to set up a UK Limited for German
business nowadays,
as there was no support for easy, cheap start of a company with
limitation of liability
in germany until half a year ago. there's a handful of lawyers/tax
consultants specializing in that.
check out http://www.limited-360.de/ (it's in german, though) for some
initial research.

if it's worth the money or better to wait is a thing you have decide
for yourself
(but i would be interested in how and why you decided, if you like to
share, in private)

cheers,
zero

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Whitemice  
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From: Whitemice <markbr...@zedray.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:02:13 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 28 2009 6:02 am
Subject: Re: MARKET QUESTION: Selling applications on the Google Market.
Hi Zero
I’ve had this option suggested to me.

I have opted for procrastination (i.e. further Android development)
rather than volunteering for further tax pain.

With all the gold rush going on at the moment in mobile apps, I think
there is an opportunity for someone to write a “dummies guide” on how
a private developer can *legally* get in on the action.  Google or a
third party should be looking at tackling this.

In the meantime, I will be blogging my Android adventures here:
http://blog.zedray.com/

Thanks for the feedback.
Mark


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George | SlideME  
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From: "George | SlideME" <george.slid...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:09:51 +0300
Local: Tues, Apr 28 2009 11:09 am
Subject: Re: [android-app-distribution] Re: MARKET QUESTION: Selling applications on the Google Market.

Something is in the works to assist such developers.

You may be interested in this if you have not noticed it:
http://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/android-developers-international-ta...

George | SlideME.org


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