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I'm so glad you have finally given people a chance to learn the basics
about LRLs. Here are a few explanations.

Statement: Most LRLs are dowsing.

Truth: An L rod is an LRL as is a pendulum or a Y, or V rod. They are
long range locators (LRLs). they will detect at long range. Since
though these are often used in classic dowsing people tend to imagine
that LRLs are dowsing. Yes and No. If there is an electronic component
or enhancement that assists the locating then it is not dowsing but
enhanced dowsing. If the enhanced dowsing is based strictly on
frequency of metals etc and/or no mental input then it is not even
enhanced dowsing as such technically speaking. The definition of
dowsing implies divination or mental input , asking questions and thus
the subconscious to an extent. LRLs sold by firms that are known as
electronic locators don't involve asking questions or divination though

in some ways versatile dowsers can use them with the power off in this
way. But dowsers can use plastic straws, hairpins and vertical pieces
of wire. That doesn't mean LRLs are dowsing.

Statement: LRL makers slap two bits of wire together, cover them with
some flashy plastic box idea then claim it will detect gold over miles.

Truth: If you collected all the ripoff scam LRLs in one place I doubt
if you would have one in number used car lot. I think sometimes these
skeptics have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) since there is no
great ripoff occurring here(the Usenet skeptics particularly). You will

most likley find that R & D and testing takes up most of the makers'
time getting the lrl just right. The idea is similar to the radio
control buffs. They spend most of their lives perfecting their rigs.
When you are taking about detection over long ranges , even miles , of
course there is an attendant pride that goes with the territory. This
striving and refinement of quality ups the price. So does the fact that

these are low turnover items. This means the price is going to be high
to start with and competition is going to force them to what appears
alarming levels. It's all though basic economics. A beeping metal
detector has about $30 of components inside it and is nowhere near
perfectly accurate. It's just that a few skeptics have decided to
criticize what they fear is a challenge to the hard way.

My suggestion is? Get a trial period LRL and try it to your
satisfaction. That is the only way to go about this. You can lose
$1000 just by choosing a manufacturer that does not give a money-back
trial but a 3/4 back or exchange etc. The sales are final guys are
definitely for the experienced who know the LRL is going to work. There

is actually only one manufacturer that gives a 14-day unconditional
money-back trial (www.rangertell.com). Another has something like it.
The others must be for the dyed in the wool pros.

When advertisers say 'you owe it to yourself' it's advertising. As far
as LRLs are concerned ...you be the judge.

Enjoy!
Sean Grolier


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