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Silence is not heard. It is called negation.

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Lucifer theGood

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:20:28 PM1/4/10
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But it is louder than you zenworm. You speak as if you know that you
speak.

Sun Tzu says victory first... then attack. The enemy should feel like
the last to know. I am not the sort that attacks and then looks for
victory. Who is scrambling? Who speaks? One who knows his silence is
purposeful. You have no idea how much I enjoy telling the Truth. Is it
a class action or a rebellion?

The government can not forgive itself... why not peddle your wares
there zenworm? Do we honestly expect these people to say "we are
wrong, forgive us?" It is like a judge. It sees itself as being above
itself but again, the system is perfect. It has never been about the
system. How many students have passed through these doors? How many
have failed? I can not forgive myself for what you do not understand.
Understanding is the master. I am not your master, how can I forgive
myself for "this"? I can't. "This" is not that easy. Mastery does not
seek to make something easy look hard.

It is like the "faint hope" clause for those in prison serving greater
than life sentences. Why should these people co-operate in prison? 150
years is hopeless. And yet they do. Why? Well, for the first part, the
judge down the line may screw up on a case which will suddenly bring
your case under the microscope again. But really, who is waiting for
that? It is more like Robin Hood. Your faint hope is that one day the
king will return. That, although this organization of fools has found
you guilty, a new government might overturn the ruling. Might say that
under those corrupt rules you are guilty but under these Laws you are
innocent.

You are not acting, you are reacting. You are reacting because you are
not prepared. Because I have moved you. Because you are scared. Of
what?

"Zenworm, can you ever get over your fear of forgiveness?"

It is OK. I just had my heartbroken by silence. I tried to cover my
hurt by sloughing a "She is my sister." card to the guys. I picked up
4L of vanilla ice cream today. And some sweetened shredded coconut.
And 500ml of 35% cream. My hope? My faint hope is found in the notion
that she may well become my "kissing cousin." Just like last time, the
girl is in a place and I was in a place. It is the same place.

But forgiveness? Hahaha. You are a very misguided soul. You and Tang
should discuss salvation. Salvation from what?...

So you do know. Forgiveness? How should I forgive myself? For what?
There is no forgiveness. It is all about energy. Energy that is
created is not lost. We can play hot potato with it or musical chairs.
I try not to create energy. To forgive myself does not suggest
something is wrong, in fact, it is moot. What would be the point? My
mistakes did not rob you of your life, your peace, your future.

And being a Zen Master, listen to this Master of Zen... Milton: We
must make their good look evil.

We must increase our darkness to expose to them the light. How can you
say I am doing this to my self when the fruits of my work are in your
hands and I have nothing to show for it? I dare say, it is not me that
is seeking forgiveness. I have said it many times, taking it is the
easy part, the bait you claim to understand, but it is giving it back
that becomes the problem. Yoga being synonymous with justice,
Patanjali, one of the vows is non-receiving. It is two fold, not
accepting gifts of guilt (it serves no one's purpose) and not putting
up with your shit. I do not return foolishness with foolishness. I do
not accept this energy. It then becomes a catalyst in the dharma.

The Laws are not in our hands.

And you do not understand balance. If you take ten units from me there
is a twenty unit split. According to your tail chasing zen, in order
for me to know justice, I must take twenty. But then the deficit is 40
and no one wins. You take ten, I take ten back. Balance. You can say
as you will, but my pocket just increased ten and your went down ten.
I just moved up from the slums into a downtown apartment and you are
no longer living in the Hamptons. Who loses?

Since your position in the Hamptons is based on all the magick with
it, position, power, wealth... I dare say, since the people see what
has been done, you shall never see that again. Is the door still open
for me? So what have I lost? In three years I will only be 44. If I
wanted to get a girl based on wealth, that would be anyone. That is
not what I am looking for. And in the mean time, I am going to do it
again to prove it is not luck.

Luck has the unfortunate fate of running out. They are the same word.
Magick is such that it lasts.

You see, you are not Death. You are experiencing one and Death does
not die. Death enlightens. Since it is your death, you are not Death.
You are not the Devil. I know how badly you want that one back. You
have already confessed that you are morally compromised. So as I said,
it is not that you do not know that you are wrong, you do. I can not
forget what I have been told and by who... does that mean that the way
the story is told is the way it is? But, acceptance of past karma, I
confess, I do not know.... but for all this clucking it would be near
perfect silence... but again, the conspiracy is perfect not the
people.

A fool in the ignorance aspect could not say that he has stolen. It is
the one that says it, speaks it, breaks the silence with it, that
knows it. The need to be forgiven. So again, I certainly can forgive
myself but that is not what you seek is it? And as I have said before.
You already knew the answer. I already knew the answer. But unlike
you, I did not seek someone else to give me another answer. And let's
face it, you will seek and seek until you find the answer you want. I
say let's cut to the chase.

You say, in all your debaucheries that you do not care. I can
enlighten you. You say you do not care and yet, you get angry when
things do not go your way. How can one be angry who is experiencing
their own way? Who is there to be angry at? You get upset and pout
when your ego is bruised. An ego that apparently in silence does not
exist. So what responds? Hurt. Silence has no response for itself. It
is the response. It is more than a response and yet less.

Now let me ask you. I set up Arg with a girl three years ago. Helped
him in a very fair competition as per the rules of the Kama Sutra.
But, due to his own actions, his own decisions, he ended up losing the
girl to the other guy.

His loss had nothing to do with me and yet, the one time in a long
time I need a little help making a love connection what does he do?
Sure, I did not get the girl but that is not the point. I did not
suffer the loss either. And looking now, I can see that he deserved
it. He is angry because he is alone with a bunch of vampires. He calls
it his Fleece. Get that? "His" fleece.

If it is his way why so glum chum? Why are you, master, moved? You are
always changing. That is not permanent.

A bear is not threatened by a squirrel and yet, if the bear becomes
hurt who could blame the squirrel? Does the bear say "Squirrel since
you cannot forgive yourself you did not move me."... at first, but in
time Zen. The squirrel says: "It is not my fault you were standing in
the place where I dropped my nuts... how can you ever forgive your
self?"

Tim

liaM

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Jan 5, 2010, 4:51:30 AM1/5/10
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line 'em up like pigeons and shoot. It's only still 2010. Happier..

zenworm

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Jan 5, 2010, 6:02:36 PM1/5/10
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Is belief in a self optional?

knowing it is egoic folly
to pick up a hot coal that burns
and forgive yourself for doing it?

seeing this is awareness
leaving the coal is wisdom

Where comes the habit of picking a coal up?
Seeing this is awareness of egoic structure
that causes suffering.

Whence comes the fire that makes the coals?
Who builds this blaze? HAH!

Do you believe in fire?

Put it all down.


^worm


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