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From: crankypuss <n...@email.thanks>
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Subject: Re: AWW FAQ -  July 26, 2012
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On 07/28/2012 06:38 AM, The Mad Ape wrote:
> On 28/07/2012 8:48 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>> On 07/28/2012 05:24 AM, The Mad Ape wrote:
>>> On 28/07/2012 6:58 AM, crankypuss wrote:
>>>> On 07/27/2012 11:15 AM, John Bokma wrote:
>>>>> "Red E. Kilowatt" <SPAMT...@aww-faq.org> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> EX_OWM wrote:
>>>>>>> I've been kind of waiting for this - the FAQ posted two weeks in
>>>>>>> arow
>>>>>>> without a single new thread in between :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I appreciate it's a labour of love, Heidi, but I don't think anyone
>>>>>>> will get upset if you decide to drop it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The FAQ (and this newsgroup) has pretty much outlived whatever
>>>>>> value it
>>>>>> once had. I'll keep the web site going because the domain is
>>>>>> registered
>>>>>> till 2017 and it still gets a few visitors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to thank you, Heidi for posting the FAQ every week for several
>>>>>> years now and for being a good friend to me for a lot longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to take this opportunity to thank everyone who helped me
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> the years. Whatever success I've enjoyed as a webmaster was built on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> knowledge I gained from those folks who participated here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even the folks who were critical of me (or worse) were often a
>>>>>> source of
>>>>>> good information. I didn't enjoy the criticism but it did sometimes
>>>>>> cause me to reflect on my actions, so I thank them as well for
>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>> good came of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not a goodbye. Just a recognition that times change and
>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>> lasts forever. The AWW newsgroup has had a very good run, but it's
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> on life-support for at least a couple of years now. I'll keep
>>>>>> checking
>>>>>> regularly for new messages, in case there's some way I can still
>>>>>> contribute, as I know others will as well. I just wanted to thank the
>>>>>> few who are left before everyone drifts away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Red. An as I stated before, I have no problem staying connected
>>>>> via Facebook or even email. I don't use the latter very much, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also started a forum a few years back, but it's not Usenet, so it
>>>>> has
>>>>> very few members and most haven't been active for months if not years
>>>>> (it's more dead than AWW).
>>>>>
>>>>> A pity, I made quite some good friends on Usenet (and yes, I include
>>>>> you
>>>>> amongst those) and somehow Usenet is the only way to stay in touch
>>>>> with
>>>>> those (email doesn't really work, sadly).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shame that the web-based forum thing caught on so well while being so
>>>> lame.
>>>
>>> It is obviously not lame to those who use it. Try embedding a YouTube
>>> video in here to get my point.
>>>
>>> TMA
>>
>> Yes, web-based forums have advantages, but they also have serious
>> disadvantages.  Navigation almost universally sucks.
>>
>> Personally I think what "we" need is a better kind of web-based
>> interface, something between the kind of interface we have with NNTP
>> readers and the usual web-based interface.
>
> Ask a kid what an NG is and look at the blank stare. Enough said. If
> there isn't visual/audio stimuli then the youth want no part of it.
>
> All part of their conditional programming.
>
> TMA

Your post demonstrates one of the most unfortunate problems in today's 
world: those who could provide something are only willing to provide 
what the masses already want, thus allowing ignorance to lead.  The 
reason is clear: financial pressure.  People are only willing to provide 
what they are certain they can sell.  It puts a definite damper on 
innovation.  Also on the potential rewards of innovation.