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freemont  
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(1 user)  More options May 15, 7:57 am
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From: freemont <freem...@spammenotfreemontsoffice.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:57:55 +0000
Local: Thurs, May 15 2008 7:57 am
Subject: site wouldn't show in searches
Almost a month ago I posted here asking for ideas as to why a new site
wasn't getting indexed by the search engines.

Well earlier this week I caught Google in the log, and I saw that the bot
had come to the site looking for robots.txt, didn't find it (500), and
pissed off. Apparently now Google REQUIRES robots.txt. (?)  Who knew.

I placed a robots.txt in the site and now it's getting spidered normally.

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John Hosking  
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 More options May 15, 11:07 am
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From: John Hosking <J...@DELETE.Hosking.name.INVALID>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 17:07:59 +0200
Local: Thurs, May 15 2008 11:07 am
Subject: Re: site wouldn't show in searches

freemont wrote:
> Almost a month ago I posted here asking for ideas as to why a new site
> wasn't getting indexed by the search engines.

Thanks for checking back in on it.

> Well earlier this week I caught Google in the log, and I saw that the bot
> had come to the site looking for robots.txt, didn't find it (500), and

500?!? Not 404?

> pissed off. Apparently now Google REQUIRES robots.txt. (?)  Who knew.

> I placed a robots.txt in the site and now it's getting spidered normally.

Are we sure googlebot just doesn't like 500-series HTTP responses? I
believe there are *a lot* of sites out there without robots.txts.

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Andrew Heenan  
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 More options May 15, 11:21 am
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From: "Andrew Heenan" <andr...@heenan.net>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:21:54 +0100
Local: Thurs, May 15 2008 11:21 am
Subject: Re: site wouldn't show in searches
"freemont" <freem...@spammenotfreemontsoffice.com> wrote ...

> Apparently now Google REQUIRES robots.txt

Not so.
Be wary of generalising from one example; other things may be going on.
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 More options May 15, 11:39 am
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From: "GeorgeLondon" <a...@me.plz>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:39:33 +0100
Local: Thurs, May 15 2008 11:39 am
Subject: Re: site wouldn't show in searches

>> Apparently now Google REQUIRES robots.txt

> Not so.
> Be wary of generalising from one example; other things may be going on.
> --

> Andrew
> seo2seo.com
> sick-site-syndrome.com

He's right you know. It is indeed not so.

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Jerry Stuckle  
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 More options May 15, 12:43 pm
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From: Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:43:41 -0400
Local: Thurs, May 15 2008 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: site wouldn't show in searches

freemont wrote:
> Almost a month ago I posted here asking for ideas as to why a new site
> wasn't getting indexed by the search engines.

> Well earlier this week I caught Google in the log, and I saw that the bot
> had come to the site looking for robots.txt, didn't find it (500), and
> pissed off. Apparently now Google REQUIRES robots.txt. (?)  Who knew.

> I placed a robots.txt in the site and now it's getting spidered normally.

No, it was the 500 (Internal Error) which caused the googlebot to stop.

Why did your server send a 500 instead of the more correct 404 (Not
Found)?  The latter is the correct return code.

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freemont  
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 More options May 15, 3:06 pm
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From: freemont <freem...@spammenotfreemontsoffice.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:06:49 +0000
Local: Thurs, May 15 2008 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: site wouldn't show in searches
On Thu, 15 May 2008 16:39:33 +0100, GeorgeLondon writ:

>>> Apparently now Google REQUIRES robots.txt

>> Not so.
>> Be wary of generalising from one example; other things may be going on.

> He's right you know. It is indeed not so.

You're right. It was early when I posted that and it was worded poorly.
Imagine me saying "Apparently now Google REQUIRES robots.txt. Who knew."
sarcastically and with an exasperated look. :-)

It was just a strange problem.

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 More options May 15, 3:09 pm
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From: freemont <freem...@spammenotfreemontsoffice.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:09:24 +0000
Local: Thurs, May 15 2008 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: site wouldn't show in searches
On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:07:59 +0200, John Hosking writ:

> freemont wrote:
>> Well earlier this week I caught Google in the log, and I saw that the bot
>> had come to the site looking for robots.txt, didn't find it (500), and

> 500?!? Not 404?

Yep, 500

>> pissed off. Apparently now Google REQUIRES robots.txt. (?)  Who knew.

>> I placed a robots.txt in the site and now it's getting spidered normally.

> Are we sure googlebot just doesn't like 500-series HTTP responses? I
> believe there are *a lot* of sites out there without robots.txts.

It appears they won't go further when a request for the file returns 500.
I, too, have made sites without robots.txt that were indexed straight away.
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 More options May 15, 3:10 pm
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From: freemont <freem...@spammenotfreemontsoffice.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:10:29 +0000
Local: Thurs, May 15 2008 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: site wouldn't show in searches
On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:43:41 -0400, Jerry Stuckle writ:

> Why did your server send a 500 instead of the more correct 404 (Not
> Found)?

Damned if I know. :-)
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Andrew Heenan  
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 More options May 15, 3:23 pm
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From: "Andrew Heenan" <andr...@heenan.net>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 20:23:50 +0100
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Subject: Re: site wouldn't show in searches

"freemont" <freem...@spammenotfreemontsoffice.com> wrote:
> Imagine me saying "Apparently now Google REQUIRES robots.txt. Who knew."
> sarcastically and with an exasperated look. :-)
> It was just a strange problem.

Now, that IS true  ;o)

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