You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just not as good as I think it is...
Triggerman72 wrote: > You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping > point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow > start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just not > as good as I think it is...
Anything new takes a while to catch on. Market (but don't spam) it, let people know about it. If it's a good idea, it will catch on.
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> Triggerman72 wrote: >> You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping >> point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow >> start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just not >> as good as I think it is...
> Anything new takes a while to catch on.
A looooong while, unless you can get a lot of other sites to link to you right away, or you have your own network of mutually supporting web sites, or you spend a lot on advertising.
> Market (but don't spam) it, > let people know about it. If it's a good idea, it will catch on.
A. P. Giannini (the founder of Bank of America) once said, "It's no use to decide what's going to happen unless you have the courage of your convictions. Many a brilliant idea has been lost because the man who dreamed it lacked the spunk or the spine to put it across. "
>> Triggerman72 wrote: >>> You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping >>> point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow >>> start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just not >>> as good as I think it is... > A. P. Giannini (the founder of Bank of America) once said, "It's no use to > decide what's going to happen unless you have the courage of your > convictions. Many a brilliant idea has been lost because the man who > dreamed it lacked the spunk or the spine to put it across. "
Great quote!
Anyone startingg a business venture in the real world would look at the market first - doesn't matter how great the idea, if it's already been done (or similar), or there's no demand, then it will fail.
For example, I read recently that 90% of new (independent) restaurants fail in their first year; those that survive tend to last for years.
The web is really no different - except (for example) 1000 people a day start new general directories, when there's oodles of evidence that the chances of Getting Rich Quick (let alone being used) approaches zero, and 500 people per day start forums, when their niche already has 1000 empty forums. Go figure.
And don't start me on the 20,000 people per day who start blogs when (a) they have nothing to say and (b) they really think anybody cares!
So, think carefully; is there a target audience, and do they want what you have to offer at this time?
Good Luck! ;o) --
Andrew seo2seo.com sick-site-syndrome.com
PS - all statistics in the above post are entirely fictitious - but you take the point!
> >> Triggerman72 wrote: > >>> You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping > >>> point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow > >>> start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just not > >>> as good as I think it is... > > A. P. Giannini (the founder of Bank of America) once said, "It's no use to > > decide what's going to happen unless you have the courage of your > > convictions. Many a brilliant idea has been lost because the man who > > dreamed it lacked the spunk or the spine to put it across. "
> Great quote!
> Anyone startingg a business venture in the real world would look at the > market first - doesn't matter how great the idea, if it's already been done > (or similar), or there's no demand, then it will fail.
> For example, I read recently that 90% of new (independent) restaurants fail > in their first year; those that survive tend to last for years.
> The web is really no different - except (for example) 1000 people a day > start new general directories, when there's oodles of evidence that the > chances of Getting Rich Quick (let alone being used) approaches zero, and > 500 people per day start forums, when their niche already has 1000 empty > forums. Go figure.
> And don't start me on the 20,000 people per day who start blogs when (a) > they have nothing to say and (b) they really think anybody cares!
> So, think carefully; is there a target audience, and do they want what you > have to offer at this time?
> Good Luck! ;o) > --
> Andrew > seo2seo.com > sick-site-syndrome.com
> PS - all statistics in the above post are entirely fictitious - but you take > the point!
OK, all excellent points, bbut the one I'm most interested in is what constitutes a loooong time? Weeks? Months? Is there a guideline out there for success? For example, if you put up a site and get x number of visitors in the first week/month, whatever, the odds are your site will grow into a site with N hits if it reaches its full potential. I guess that's it...is there a way to gauge a site's potential based on its early results?
> On May 6, 4:29 am, "Andrew Heenan" <andr...@heenan.net> wrote: > > "Red E. Kilowatt" wrote ...
> > >> Triggerman72 wrote: > > >>> You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping > > >>> point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow > > >>> start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just not > > >>> as good as I think it is... > > > A. P. Giannini (the founder of Bank of America) once said, "It's no use to > > > decide what's going to happen unless you have the courage of your > > > convictions. Many a brilliant idea has been lost because the man who > > > dreamed it lacked the spunk or the spine to put it across. "
> > Great quote!
> > Anyone startingg a business venture in the real world would look at the > > market first - doesn't matter how great the idea, if it's already been done > > (or similar), or there's no demand, then it will fail.
> > For example, I read recently that 90% of new (independent) restaurants fail > > in their first year; those that survive tend to last for years.
> > The web is really no different - except (for example) 1000 people a day > > start new general directories, when there's oodles of evidence that the > > chances of Getting Rich Quick (let alone being used) approaches zero, and > > 500 people per day start forums, when their niche already has 1000 empty > > forums. Go figure.
> > And don't start me on the 20,000 people per day who start blogs when (a) > > they have nothing to say and (b) they really think anybody cares!
> > So, think carefully; is there a target audience, and do they want what you > > have to offer at this time?
> > Good Luck! ;o) > > --
> > Andrew > > seo2seo.com > > sick-site-syndrome.com
> > PS - all statistics in the above post are entirely fictitious - but you take > > the point!
> OK, all excellent points, bbut the one I'm most interested in is what > constitutes a loooong time? Weeks? Months? Is there a guideline out > there for success? For example, if you put up a site and get x number > of visitors in the first week/month, whatever, the odds are your site > will grow into a site with N hits if it reaches its full potential. I > guess that's it...is there a way to gauge a site's potential based on > its early results?
You could get 1000 hits the first month and sell nothing, 100 hits the second month and sell 10 items. Timing is everything, it's a matter of does the potential customer need what you are selling at this very moment. There is no way to predict future sales until you have at least a year or two of experience behind you, and still, if you saturate the market, sales will slow after a while without any other influences.
To answer the question about how long is too long - that's all up to you and how much time, money and energy you're willing to invest.
> You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping > point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow > start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just not > as good as I think it is...
Once you have made you mind up that the site is going to fail, then any additional development time is wasted (unless you have nothing else to do, and no ideas for other sites!).
So take a last look, see if there's anything you can easily change to give it some 'shelf life' - ie if it's producing any significant income, remove dates, news pages and anything that will stop it producing that income in 6 weeks, then walk away; anyting it does now is a bonus. You've paid for the domain, hosting is negligable (if you have it on a decent host), so get on with your life. --
Andrew seo2seo.com sick-site-syndrome.com
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> > You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping > > point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow > > start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just not > > as good as I think it is...
> Once you have made you mind up that the site is going to fail, then any > additional development time is wasted (unless you have nothing else to do, > and no ideas for other sites!).
> So take a last look, see if there's anything you can easily change to give > it some 'shelf life' - ie if it's producing any significant income, remove > dates, news pages and anything that will stop it producing that income in 6 > weeks, then walk away; anyting it does now is a bonus. You've paid for the > domain, hosting is negligable (if you have it on a decent host), so get on > with your life. > --
> Andrew > seo2seo.com > sick-site-syndrome.com
> UK Residents: > STOP THE "10p Tax Ripoff" > Sign the petition to stop the government stealing from the > very poorest tell your friends about this petition:http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/10penceband/
Thanks to everyone for the responses...and don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about throwing in the towel. I'm fairly comfortable with all aspects of the site (you can see it at http://www.soarport.com). I think I'm just trying to determine if there is a link between early adoption and long term results. I know I'm probably looking for easy answers, since its like many of you have said - factors such as effort and timing will ultimately come into play more than some kind of magical forecast.
Maybe I need to look at it a little differently. For a site like soarport, where there is no "sale" per se, is there a certain number of visitors I should have achieved within x time period in order to assume the site will be viable. Of course, here I go again, really, beause I know the answer depends on my goals...how many visitors I think constitutes success, etc. Dunno. I guess it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on how many visitors you would expect in the first month if you launched a new site.
Triggerman72 wrote: > Thanks to everyone for the responses...and don't get me wrong, I'm not > talking about throwing in the towel. I'm fairly comfortable with all > aspects of the site (you can see it at http://www.soarport.com). I > think I'm just trying to determine if there is a link between early > adoption and long term results. I know I'm probably looking for easy > answers, since its like many of you have said - factors such as effort > and timing will ultimately come into play more than some kind of > magical forecast.
> Maybe I need to look at it a little differently. For a site like > soarport, where there is no "sale" per se, is there a certain number > of visitors I should have achieved within x time period in order to > assume the site will be viable. Of course, here I go again, really, > beause I know the answer depends on my goals...how many visitors I > think constitutes success, etc. Dunno. I guess it would be interesting > to hear your thoughts on how many visitors you would expect in the > first month if you launched a new site.
Well, here's some perhaps unconstructive comment. It appears that the purpose of the site is to sell Google Ads. I infer this because there's nothing on the first page that tells me what the actual purpose is.
I clicked on the "New to SoarPort" link, and got a signup screen. There's nothing there that tells me why I would want to be a member, and how being a member would benefit me.
Otherwise, from a design standpoint, it's a pretty nice site.
You should get the book "Don't Make Me Think" by Steve Krug. Read his chapters on doing usability testing on the cheap, and then get 4 people and do some usability testing on the site. I guarantee it will be an eye opener.
Read the whole article. Go for a run. Come back. Read the WHOLE article again. While it's not strictly about launching web sites, the similarities are close enough that it will be VERY helpful to you.
In short, the probability of having any product be wildly successful from the beginning is just so small it's not worth considering. This doesn't mean you can't be successful. It means you have to work at it like a professional if you want to succeed.
While there's no guarantee that you'll be successful if you keep working, if you quit working it's guaranteed that you will fail.
> On May 6, 9:58=A0am, "Andrew Heenan" <andr...@heenan.net> wrote: > > "Triggerman72" <gemar...@gmail.com> wrote..
> > > You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping > > > point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow > > > start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just not > > > as good as I think it is...
> > Once you have made you mind up that the site is going to fail, then any > > additional development time is wasted (unless you have nothing else to do,=
> > and no ideas for other sites!).
> > So take a last look, see if there's anything you can easily change to give=
> > it some 'shelf life' - ie if it's producing any significant income, remove=
> > dates, news pages and anything that will stop it producing that income in = > 6 > > weeks, then walk away; anyting it does now is a bonus. You've paid for the=
> > domain, hosting is negligable (if you have it on a decent host), so get on=
> > with your life. > > --
> > Andrew > > seo2seo.com > > sick-site-syndrome.com
> > UK Residents: > > STOP THE "10p Tax Ripoff" > > Sign the petition to stop the government stealing from the > > very poorest tell your friends about this petition:http://petitions.pm.gov= > .uk/10penceband/
> Thanks to everyone for the responses...and don't get me wrong, I'm not > talking about throwing in the towel. I'm fairly comfortable with all > aspects of the site (you can see it at http://www.soarport.com). I > think I'm just trying to determine if there is a link between early > adoption and long term results. I know I'm probably looking for easy > answers, since its like many of you have said - factors such as effort > and timing will ultimately come into play more than some kind of > magical forecast.
> Maybe I need to look at it a little differently. For a site like > soarport, where there is no "sale" per se, is there a certain number > of visitors I should have achieved within x time period in order to > assume the site will be viable. Of course, here I go again, really, > beause I know the answer depends on my goals...how many visitors I > think constitutes success, etc. Dunno. I guess it would be interesting > to hear your thoughts on how many visitors you would expect in the > first month if you launched a new site.
In the first month? Anything greater than "0" would be good. Reemember, nobody even knows you exist. Throwing up a site and becoming rich is a thing of the past. Think of the site as one of your marketing tools, not the only tool. People may stumble across the site, but you are the only one can can drive people to your site through the use of other forms of advertising/marketing.
I looked at your site. When I first landed on it, I had no idea what you were trying to convey. And now that I looked around, what exactly are you trying to do? What exactly sets you apart from other sites like yours? You don't tell me why I should visit again.
I'm not trying to be negative, but you need to work on this some more.
> On May 6, 4:29 am, "Andrew Heenan" <andr...@heenan.net> wrote: >> "Red E. Kilowatt" wrote ...
>>>> Triggerman72 wrote: >>>>> You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping >>>>> point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow >>>>> start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just >>>>> not as good as I think it is... >>> A. P. Giannini (the founder of Bank of America) once said, "It's no >>> use to decide what's going to happen unless you have the courage of >>> your convictions. Many a brilliant idea has been lost because the >>> man who dreamed it lacked the spunk or the spine to put it across. "
>> Great quote!
>> Anyone startingg a business venture in the real world would look at >> the market first - doesn't matter how great the idea, if it's >> already been done (or similar), or there's no demand, then it will >> fail.
>> For example, I read recently that 90% of new (independent) >> restaurants fail in their first year; those that survive tend to >> last for years.
>> The web is really no different - except (for example) 1000 people a >> day start new general directories, when there's oodles of evidence >> that the chances of Getting Rich Quick (let alone being used) >> approaches zero, and 500 people per day start forums, when their >> niche already has 1000 empty forums. Go figure.
>> And don't start me on the 20,000 people per day who start blogs when >> (a) they have nothing to say and (b) they really think anybody cares!
>> So, think carefully; is there a target audience, and do they want >> what you have to offer at this time?
>> Good Luck! ;o) >> --
>> Andrew >> seo2seo.com >> sick-site-syndrome.com
>> PS - all statistics in the above post are entirely fictitious - but >> you take the point!
> OK, all excellent points, bbut the one I'm most interested in is what > constitutes a loooong time? Weeks? Months? Is there a guideline out > there for success? For example, if you put up a site and get x number > of visitors in the first week/month, whatever, the odds are your site > will grow into a site with N hits if it reaches its full potential. I > guess that's it...is there a way to gauge a site's potential based on > its early results?
Now that I've seen your site I can't give you very much encouragement.
There is no description of what the site is all about. I couldn't see anything useful until I enabled scripts. Once I did enable scripts all I saw was an image viewer that has very limited zoom capabilities.
I think an image viewer with extensive zoom capabilites might be a little better, but that would probably use a lot of bandwith and wouldn't earn enough from advertising to make it worth the effort.
It's a good start on a useful website, but only a start. I don't think what you have now is enough, so I wouldn't be promoting it until I had enhanced its capabilities quite a bit. You only get one chance to impress any individual webmaster enough to get him/her to link to you, so you don't want them to visit until you have something worth linking to.
> > On May 6, 4:29 am, "Andrew Heenan" <andr...@heenan.net> wrote: > >> "Red E. Kilowatt" wrote ...
> >>>> Triggerman72 wrote: > >>>>> You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping > >>>>> point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow > >>>>> start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just > >>>>> not as good as I think it is... > >>> A. P. Giannini (the founder of Bank of America) once said, "It's no > >>> use to decide what's going to happen unless you have the courage of > >>> your convictions. Many a brilliant idea has been lost because the > >>> man who dreamed it lacked the spunk or the spine to put it across. "
> >> Great quote!
> >> Anyone startingg a business venture in the real world would look at > >> the market first - doesn't matter how great the idea, if it's > >> already been done (or similar), or there's no demand, then it will > >> fail.
> >> For example, I read recently that 90% of new (independent) > >> restaurants fail in their first year; those that survive tend to > >> last for years.
> >> The web is really no different - except (for example) 1000 people a > >> day start new general directories, when there's oodles of evidence > >> that the chances of Getting Rich Quick (let alone being used) > >> approaches zero, and 500 people per day start forums, when their > >> niche already has 1000 empty forums. Go figure.
> >> And don't start me on the 20,000 people per day who start blogs when > >> (a) they have nothing to say and (b) they really think anybody cares!
> >> So, think carefully; is there a target audience, and do they want > >> what you have to offer at this time?
> >> Good Luck! ;o) > >> --
> >> Andrew > >> seo2seo.com > >> sick-site-syndrome.com
> >> PS - all statistics in the above post are entirely fictitious - but > >> you take the point!
> > OK, all excellent points, bbut the one I'm most interested in is what > > constitutes a loooong time? Weeks? Months? Is there a guideline out > > there for success? For example, if you put up a site and get x number > > of visitors in the first week/month, whatever, the odds are your site > > will grow into a site with N hits if it reaches its full potential. I > > guess that's it...is there a way to gauge a site's potential based on > > its early results?
> Now that I've seen your site I can't give you very much encouragement.
> There is no description of what the site is all about. > I couldn't see anything useful until I enabled scripts. > Once I did enable scripts all I saw was an image viewer that has very > limited zoom capabilities.
> I think an image viewer with extensive zoom capabilites might be a > little better, but that would probably use a lot of bandwith and > wouldn't earn enough from advertising to make it worth the effort.
> It's a good start on a useful website, but only a start. I don't think > what you have now is enough, so I wouldn't be promoting it until I had > enhanced its capabilities quite a bit. You only get one chance to > impress any individual webmaster enough to get him/her to link to you, > so you don't want them to visit until you have something worth linking > to.
> -- > Red
Wow! Thanks for all the info guys. I will review it. Excellent point about how the site is not well explained, and the ads are too invasive. I'll take them down or at least move them so it does not appear the only thing is to host ads. I will also see what I can do about enhancing the zoom capabilities. I'm not sure off the top what I can do about the no script problem, but good to know and I will do what I can to make any corrections possible. The comment from George:
clicked on the "New to SoarPort" link, and got a signup screen. There's nothing there that tells me why I would want to be a member, and how being a member would benefit me.
You know, that is such a brilliant insight, and I say that because I have done some research and no one really makes that point. (I hope you have a blog out there) And as a developer, its very easy to assume people know what you want/need them to sign up. And I do have some good explanative text I could use, too boot. I have not yet had a chance to review the links you posted, but I will. I really appreciate the guidance.
If you don't mind, I'd like to post again in a while with an update. (If you prefer, I will also mention this on the soarport blog, which you can access from the main soarport page.). In any event, I really appreciate everyone who took the time to offer some advice.
>>> On May 6, 4:29 am, "Andrew Heenan" <andr...@heenan.net> wrote: >>>> "Red E. Kilowatt" wrote ... >>>>>> Triggerman72 wrote: >>>>>>> You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping >>>>>>> point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow >>>>>>> start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just >>>>>>> not as good as I think it is... >>>>> A. P. Giannini (the founder of Bank of America) once said, "It's no >>>>> use to decide what's going to happen unless you have the courage of >>>>> your convictions. Many a brilliant idea has been lost because the >>>>> man who dreamed it lacked the spunk or the spine to put it across. " >>>> Great quote! >>>> Anyone startingg a business venture in the real world would look at >>>> the market first - doesn't matter how great the idea, if it's >>>> already been done (or similar), or there's no demand, then it will >>>> fail. >>>> For example, I read recently that 90% of new (independent) >>>> restaurants fail in their first year; those that survive tend to >>>> last for years. >>>> The web is really no different - except (for example) 1000 people a >>>> day start new general directories, when there's oodles of evidence >>>> that the chances of Getting Rich Quick (let alone being used) >>>> approaches zero, and 500 people per day start forums, when their >>>> niche already has 1000 empty forums. Go figure. >>>> And don't start me on the 20,000 people per day who start blogs when >>>> (a) they have nothing to say and (b) they really think anybody cares! >>>> So, think carefully; is there a target audience, and do they want >>>> what you have to offer at this time? >>>> Good Luck! ;o) >>>> -- >>>> Andrew >>>> seo2seo.com >>>> sick-site-syndrome.com >>>> PS - all statistics in the above post are entirely fictitious - but >>>> you take the point! >>> OK, all excellent points, bbut the one I'm most interested in is what >>> constitutes a loooong time? Weeks? Months? Is there a guideline out >>> there for success? For example, if you put up a site and get x number >>> of visitors in the first week/month, whatever, the odds are your site >>> will grow into a site with N hits if it reaches its full potential. I >>> guess that's it...is there a way to gauge a site's potential based on >>> its early results? >> Now that I've seen your site I can't give you very much encouragement.
>> There is no description of what the site is all about. >> I couldn't see anything useful until I enabled scripts. >> Once I did enable scripts all I saw was an image viewer that has very >> limited zoom capabilities.
>> I think an image viewer with extensive zoom capabilites might be a >> little better, but that would probably use a lot of bandwith and >> wouldn't earn enough from advertising to make it worth the effort.
>> It's a good start on a useful website, but only a start. I don't think >> what you have now is enough, so I wouldn't be promoting it until I had >> enhanced its capabilities quite a bit. You only get one chance to >> impress any individual webmaster enough to get him/her to link to you, >> so you don't want them to visit until you have something worth linking >> to.
>> -- >> Red
> Wow! Thanks for all the info guys. I will review it. Excellent point > about how the site is not well explained, and the ads are too > invasive. I'll take them down or at least move them so it does not > appear the only thing is to host ads. I will also see what I can do > about enhancing the zoom capabilities. I'm not sure off the top what I > can do about the no script problem, but good to know and I will do > what I can to make any corrections possible. The comment from George:
> clicked on the "New to SoarPort" link, and got a signup screen. > There's nothing there that tells me why I would want to be a member, > and > how being a member would benefit me.
> You know, that is such a brilliant insight, and I say that because I > have done some research and no one really makes that point. (I hope > you have a blog out there) And as a developer, its very easy to assume > people know what you want/need them to sign up. And I do have some > good explanative text I could use, too boot. I have not yet had a > chance to review the links you posted, but I will. I really appreciate > the guidance.
> If you don't mind, I'd like to post again in a while with an update. > (If you prefer, I will also mention this on the soarport blog, which > you can access from the main soarport page.). In any event, I really > appreciate everyone who took the time to offer some advice.
No problem posting here again. We're all here to help each other.
I would have posted something earlier - but everyone else beat me to the same comments I had :-)
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> Triggerman72 wrote: > > Thanks to everyone for the responses...and don't get me wrong, I'm not > > talking about throwing in the towel. I'm fairly comfortable with all > > aspects of the site (you can see it athttp://www.soarport.com). I > > think I'm just trying to determine if there is a link between early > > adoption and long term results. I know I'm probably looking for easy > > answers, since its like many of you have said - factors such as effort > > and timing will ultimately come into play more than some kind of > > magical forecast.
> > Maybe I need to look at it a little differently. For a site like > >soarport, where there is no "sale" per se, is there a certain number > > of visitors I should have achieved within x time period in order to > > assume the site will be viable. Of course, here I go again, really, > > beause I know the answer depends on my goals...how many visitors I > > think constitutes success, etc. Dunno. I guess it would be interesting > > to hear your thoughts on how many visitors you would expect in the > > first month if you launched a new site.
> Well, here's some perhaps unconstructive comment. It appears that the > purpose of the site is to sell Google Ads. I infer this because there's > nothing on the first page that tells me what the actual purpose is.
> I clicked on the "New toSoarPort" link, and got a signup screen. > There's nothing there that tells me why I would want to be a member, and > how being a member would benefit me.
> Otherwise, from a design standpoint, it's a pretty nice site.
> You should get the book "Don't Make Me Think" by Steve Krug. Read his > chapters on doing usability testing on the cheap, and then get 4 people > and do some usability testing on the site. I guarantee it will be an eye > opener.
> Read the whole article. Go for a run. Come back. Read the WHOLE article > again. While it's not strictly about launching web sites, the > similarities are close enough that it will be VERY helpful to you.
> In short, the probability of having any product be wildly successful > from the beginning is just so small it's not worth considering. This > doesn't mean you can't be successful. It means you have to work at it > like a professional if you want to succeed.
> While there's no guarantee that you'll be successful if you keep > working, if you quit working it's guaranteed that you will fail.
> On May 6, 1:13 pm, George Sexton <gsex...@mhsoftware.com> wrote:
> > Triggerman72 wrote: > > > Thanks to everyone for the responses...and don't get me wrong, I'm not > > > talking about throwing in the towel. I'm fairly comfortable with all > > > aspects of the site (you can see it athttp://www.soarport.com). I > > > think I'm just trying to determine if there is a link between early > > > adoption and long term results. I know I'm probably looking for easy > > > answers, since its like many of you have said - factors such as effort > > > and timing will ultimately come into play more than some kind of > > > magical forecast.
> > > Maybe I need to look at it a little differently. For a site like > > >soarport, where there is no "sale" per se, is there a certain number > > > of visitors I should have achieved within x time period in order to > > > assume the site will be viable. Of course, here I go again, really, > > > beause I know the answer depends on my goals...how many visitors I > > > think constitutes success, etc. Dunno. I guess it would be interesting > > > to hear your thoughts on how many visitors you would expect in the > > > first month if you launched a new site.
> > Well, here's some perhaps unconstructive comment. It appears that the > > purpose of the site is to sell Google Ads. I infer this because there's > > nothing on the first page that tells me what the actual purpose is.
> > I clicked on the "New toSoarPort" link, and got a signup screen. > > There's nothing there that tells me why I would want to be a member, and > > how being a member would benefit me.
> > Otherwise, from a design standpoint, it's a pretty nice site.
> > You should get the book "Don't Make Me Think" by Steve Krug. Read his > > chapters on doing usability testing on the cheap, and then get 4 people > > and do some usability testing on the site. I guarantee it will be an eye > > opener.
> > Read the whole article. Go for a run. Come back. Read the WHOLE article > > again. While it's not strictly about launching web sites, the > > similarities are close enough that it will be VERY helpful to you.
> > In short, the probability of having any product be wildly successful > > from the beginning is just so small it's not worth considering. This > > doesn't mean you can't be successful. It means you have to work at it > > like a professional if you want to succeed.
> > While there's no guarantee that you'll be successful if you keep > > working, if you quit working it's guaranteed that you will fail.
OK, I finished reading the article (the whole article) and there is no question: it is an inspiring work.There is a ton of thinking/ reflection that will come from that. Thanks for the reference.
On Mon, 5 May 2008 17:49:10 -0700 (PDT), Triggerman72 <gemar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>You guys must know when/if an idea is a dud...what is the tipping >point? I've just started a site, but its off to a fairly slow >start...I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the idea is just not >as good as I think it is...
For whatever it's worth: I looked at the site and I'll be darned if I can figure out what it is. Is there a product? What is it? If I upload an image what do I get in return? Is it an image program? Or is the image stored somewhere?
