Splitting an ethernet line
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Can an ethernet line be effectively split so that one lead can go to a
nearby computer and another to a wireless router? If so, what's the
best way?
TIA
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<Old Bill> wrote in message
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> Can an ethernet line be effectively split so that one lead can go to a
> nearby computer and another to a wireless router? If so, what's the
> best way?
Buy a hub to "split" the ethernet.
Stuart Miller
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> nearby computer and another to a wireless router? If so, what's the
> best way?
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> TIA
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'Splitting' isnt exactly the word you want here.
Assuming you now have a single computer connected to a cable modem.....
Just run the cable modem into the 'uplink' connector on the router
There should be 4 wired connections on the back of the router for
traditional rj45 cable
Every wireless router I have seen also has wired ports.
If yours does not, you will need a wired router pluged into the cable modem,
then the wireless router plugged into that. That is the arrangement I use
here, so I can unplug the wireless when it is not needed.
Write back if you need more info.
Stuart
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In the configuration you've described, is the pc then receiving the
internet signal through the wired connection, or does this connect the
pc to the internet wirelessly through the wireless router? The reason
I ask is that my pc doesn't have, nor does it have a sufficiently
recent os to handle, a wireless pc card. That's why I'm trying to find
a way to create separate connections to the cable modem for the old pc
and a new wireless router.
Thanks.
Old Bill
Stuart Miller
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Hi Bill
Sorry if I was a bit unclear there.
Generally a wireless router is also a standard wired router as well, and
provides access to any number of computers through the wired connections.
So, you 'old' PC would plug into the router, which is plugged into the cable
modem.
The 'old' PC would be totally unaware of the wireless network.
The 'newer' computers could connect either by wired or wireless connections.
For a modern laptop, you may have to enable one and disable the other.
Depending on the make of computer and default setup, the wireless may
automatically connect and take precedence over the wired connection.
I purchased my wireless router after I already had a wired router in
service, so my system is a bit redundant, but I like being able to unplug
the wireless router when I want to guarantee that nobody can snoop or hack
into my network.
If you are running win98, then all you need to get wireless capability is an
upgrade to win98se. If you have the upgrade edition, that should be easy. If
you have the OEM edition, or do not have se at all, then e-mail me for other
solutions.
Wireless USB cards are available for about $40 these days.
wireles router
cable modem ----rj45----(uplink port) (downlink ports)----rj45----'old'
computer
(wireless) -
- - - any number of computers
On the odd chance that your wireless router does not have any wired
connectors, then you will need a standard wired router, which can be had for
about $40.
wired router/hub/firewall
cable modem ----rj45----(uplink port) (downlink port) ----rj45----'old'
computer'
(downlink
port) ----rj45---- wireless router
In this case, the wired router is your gateway, and you will need two static
addresses
I use 192.168.0.1 for the wired router, and 192.168.0.2 for the wireless
one.
Make sure that you don't allow both routers to be a dhcp server.
Stuart
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:31:38 GMT, "Stuart Miller"
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Stuart:
Thanks for the explanation. From what you write, it sounds like I just
need to shop for the right router. I'm going to pass for the moment on
upgrading my WIN98 system to WIN-98SE since adding wireless capability
to my pc isn't really important to me, I don't have the software and
my threshold of pain is pretty low, but if I change my mind I'll take
you up on your offer for additional solutions.
I really like this group, but it seems to be dying off. Too bad.
Old Bill
Justin Case
I have a similar problem to Old Bill and I understand what you are saying about "traditional rj45 cable" which is the ethernet cable is it not? Problem I have is that I do not have a network card and associated socket on the back of my old W98 fe desktop, just the phone connection (is it the RJ11?). The only connection on my wireless router is the rj45. Can I split/share the line to the dsl/phone line? to overcome this and leave my old broadband modem on the desktop and use the wireless connection on my other (new) wireless router.
I also don't want to either upgrade to SE.
Cheers
Justin
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Stuart Miller
"Justin Case" <Pleasetaked...@leastonce.pominvalid> wrote in
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>Hi Stuart,
>I have a similar problem to Old Bill and I understand what you are saying
>about "traditional rj45 cable" which is the ethernet >cable is it not?
At the risk of being acused of being too picky here
rj45 is the connector type (8 connectors in one plug)
usually we refer to cat 5 cable, or twister pair
you will also see references to 'fat ethernet' and 'thin ethernet'
ethernet is the protocol ( arcnet, token ring, etc have disappeared)
>Problem I have is that I do not have a network card and associated socket
>on the back of my old W98 fe desktop, just the >phone connection (is it the
>RJ11?).
Yes, rj11 is the connector commonly used for phone lines ( voice, fax,
modem)
>The only connection on my wireless router is the rj45.
As it should be
>Can I split/share the line to the dsl/phone line?
No. Ethernet and phone/modem are totally different technologies
>to overcome this and leave my old broadband modem on the desktop and use
>the wireless connection on my other (new) >wireless router.
Ethernet NIC's are about $20 these days, I can get 'obsolete' isa & eisa
cards for $5, the drivers are included with win98.
Try this
Cable/dsl Modem
wireless router plugs into modem using 'uplink' conector
wireless computers connect to wireless router, 'wirelessly'
old computer with new ethernet card plugs into one of the (usually 4)
LAN connectors on wireless
>I also don't want to either upgrade to SE.
No need to. 98 does ethernet just fine
Stuart
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> I really like this group, but it seems to be dying off. Too bad.
You should be reading and posting to
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
because that is the most active windows-98 newsgroup.
Menno Hershberger
were made by myself... dating back to 2010. Prior to those three the last
post was in April of 2009.
Subject line on my three was "Attn: Gary Terhune"
Even though Giganews carries the group, it must not be propogating.
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98 Guy
> > > I really like this group, but it seems to be dying off. Too bad.
> >
> > You should be reading and posting to
> > microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
> > because that is the most active windows-98 newsgroup.
>
> Giganews carries that newsgroup. But the last three posts I see in
> there were made by myself... dating back to 2010. Prior to those
> three the last post was in April of 2009.
>
group.
Google groups has what I think is a complete feed, as you can see here:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/topics?gvc=2
I suggest you stop paying for usenet access and point your client to
nntp.aioe.org as I do. I see the same posts as google does. Except
that aioe is filtering out the stupid Tony Lance "big bertha" posts, and
other spam that google can't or won't filter.
Paul in Houston TX
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them, regardless, though.
I believe MS stopped news as we know it altogether, i. e. turned off
their server; they went over to forums.
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98 Guy
some sort of central role in the existance of the microsoft.* usenet
hierarchy.
This couldn't be further from the truth.
The truth is that Microsoft's servers were *peers* on usenet when it
comes to those groups. Ever since some point in the mid 1990's they
peered their servers with the rest of usenet, allowing messages posted
anywhere to be seen on any server.
What Microsoft did about 1.5 years ago was to shut down their usenet
server (or change their groups into a different forum - a *closed*
forum). That had no effect on the rest of the "world-wide" usenet in
terms of if they (or how they) continued to carry the microsoft groups
amongst themselves - which the vast majority did.
Paul in Houston TX
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> <Pa...@Houston.com> writes:
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>>Didn't MS do away with the ms hosted groups a year or two ago?
>
> Yes, on their own newsserver. Lots of other servers carried on carrying
> them, regardless, though.
>
> I believe MS stopped news as we know it altogether, i. e. turned off
> their server; they went over to forums.
Configuration:
Account: Microsoft Communities
Server: msnews.microsoft.com
Protocol: NNTP
Port: 119
But not hosting any Newsgroups at this time...
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User-agent: *
Disallow: /
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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webster72n
On top of that I am getting error messages half the time, when sending
replies of either too many lines or IP-configuration.
Just have to live with it, I guess.
Harry.
98 Guy
> > Giganews carries that newsgroup. But the last three posts I see
> > in there were made by myself... dating back to 2010. Prior to
> > those three the last post was in April of 2009.
> >
> > Even though Giganews carries the group, it must not be propogating.
Lostgalibladder...
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Lostgallifreyan
> This would account for not seeing any posts lately from the prolific
> Lostgalibladder...
>
>
posts. Simple really.
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