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Taliban Still Working for the CIA? The Afghan war is a charade with a hidden agenda

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Raymond

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Nov 14, 2009, 3:58:27 PM11/14/09
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Most Americans don't care. War is their hobby. The moment war is
declared the mass of the people, through some spiritual alchemy,
become convinced that they have willed and executed the deed
themselves.

With the shock of war the State comes into its own again. The
Government, with no mandate from the people, without consultation of
the people, conducts all the negotiations, the backing and filling,
the menaces and explanations, which slowly bring it into collision
with some other Government, and gently and irresistibly slides the
country into war. For the benefit of proud and haughty citizens, it is
fortified with a list of the intolerable insults which have been
hurled toward us by the other nations; for the benefit of the liberal
and beneficent, it has a convincing set of moral purposes which our
going to war will achieve; for the ambitious and aggressive classes,
it can gently whisper of a bigger role in the destiny of the world.
The result is that, even in those countries where the business of
declaring war is theoretically in the hands of representatives of the
people, no legislature has ever been known to decline the request of
an Executive, which has conducted all foreign affairs in utter privacy
and irresponsibility, that it order the nation into battle. Good
democrats are wont to feel the crucial difference between a State in
which the popular Parliament or Congress declares war, and the State
in which an absolute monarch or ruling class declares war. But, put to
the stern pragmatic test, the difference is not striking. In the
freest of republics as well as in the most tyrannical of empires, all
foreign policy, the diplomatic negotiations which produce or forestall
war, are equally the private property of the Executive part of the
Government, and are equally exposed to no check whatever from popular
bodies, or the people voting as a mass themselves.

The moment war is declared, however, the mass of the people, through
some spiritual alchemy, become convinced that they have willed and
executed the deed themselves. They then, with the exception of a few
malcontents, proceed to allow themselves to be regimented, coerced,
deranged in all the environments of their lives, and turned into a
solid manufactory of destruction toward whatever other people may
have, in the appointed scheme of things, come within the range of the
Government's disapprobation. The citizen throws off his contempt and
indifference to Government, identifies himself with its purposes,
revives all his military memories and symbols, and the State once more
walks, an august presence, through the imaginations of men. Patriotism
becomes the dominant feeling, and produces immediately that intense
and hopeless confusion between the relations which the individual
bears and should bear toward the society of which he is a part.The
patriot loses all sense of the distinction between State, nation, and
government. In our quieter moments, the Nation or Country forms the
basic idea of society......War is the health of the state
--- Randolph Bourne

Taliban Still Working for the CIA?
If correct, the Afghan war is a charade with a hidden agenda Look
for this war to expand and go on forever.

Henry Makow Ph.D.
November 8, 2009

As President Obama ponders whether to send more troops to Afghanistan,
there is mounting evidence the Taliban is supported by the CIA. If
correct, the Afghan war is a charade with a hidden agenda.

First, we have many reports that unmarked helicopters are ferrying the
Taliban to targets, and relieving them when cornered.

“Just when the police and army managed to surround the Taliban in a
village of Qala-e-Zaal district, we saw helicopters land with support
teams,” an Afghan soldier said. “They managed to rescue their friends
from our encirclement, and even to inflict defeat on the Afghan
National Army.”

This story, in one form or another, is being repeated throughout
northern Afghanistan. Dozens of people claim to have seen Taliban
fighters disembark from foreign helicopters in several provinces.

“I saw the helicopters with my own eyes,” said Sayed Rafiq from
Baghlan-e-Markazi.

“They landed near the foothills and offloaded dozens of Taliban with
turbans, and wrapped in patus (a blanket-type shawl).”

“Our fight against the Taliban is nonsense,” said the first soldier.
“Our foreigner ‘friends’ are friendlier to the opposition.”

CIA AIR BASES IN PAKISTAN

Last February, there were reports of CIA airbases within Pakistan used
for drones. If this is true, Pakistanis are being attacked by drones
based in their own country. Obviously, the CIA helicopters supporting
the Taliban could also come from these bases.

In May, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, told NBC News that the
CIA and the U.S.-Funded Pakistani ISI intelligence service “has
created the Taliban.”

Zardari said that the CIA and the ISI are still supporting the
Taliban.

On Oct 29, 2009, Hillary Clinton told Pakistani officials that she
found it “hard to believe” the Pakistani ISI didn’t know where Al
Qaeda leaders were hiding. Her role is to maintain the illusion that
Al Qaeda and the Taliban are not CIA creations.

Just the day before, Oct. 18, four American citizens were caught
photographing sensitive buildings in Islamabad. All four were dressed
in traditional Afghan outfits and were found to be in possession of
illegal weapons and explosives.

Their vehicles contained 2 M-16A1 rifles, 2 handguns and 2 hand-
grenades. The police held the American citizens in custody for an hour
before the Interior Ministry interfered and had them released without
charge even as preliminary investigation was being carried out.

Clearly, the CIA could be involved in the recent attacks on Pakistani
institutions. Who knows? In some cases, the “Taliban” could be CIA
mercenaries.

In Feb. 2008, the British were caught planning a training camp for the
Taliban in Southern Afghanistan supposedly to make them “change
sides.” Karzai expelled two top British “diplomats.” This was all
part of the ongoing charade.

THE HIDDEN AGENDA

All wars are charades. This is true of the world wars, the Cold War,
Korea, Vietnam, 9-11 and the current war on terror. The human race is
caught in a hologram controlled by the Illuminati Rothschild central
bankers.

War are necessary to keep the human race divided, distracted and
dehumanized. Otherwise, we might focus on the fact that a small
network of Masonic families, based in London, control government
credit. Therefore, the central banking cartel incites wars using pawns
like Bush and Obama, and intelligence agencies like the CIA, Mossad,
MI-6 and ISI. They finance these wars by issuing debt repayable to
them by the taxpayer.

As I have said, their ultimate goal is to translate their monopoly
over government credit into a worldwide monopoly over power, wealth
and culture; in other words, to disinherit and enslave the human race.
This is called world government.

I’m not an expert on the politics of the Asian subcontinent. But it
appears that the
Afghanistan war should be seen in a larger regional context. Zbigniew
Brzezinski advocated a “global-zone of percolating violence,” that
included all of Central Asia, Turkey, southern Russia, and the
western borders of China. It also included the entire Middle East, the
Persian Gulf (Iran), Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The plan was outlined in Brzezinski’s book, “The Grand
Chessboard” (1997) . Ostensibly, the
purpose was to prevent Russia from becoming an imperial power again.
But that’s not the real reason. What do these countries have in
common? They are Muslim. Islam is the last redoubt of faith in God.

The Illuminati are Satanists. Put two and two together. The Afghan war
has some immediate benefits: perpetual war, arms spending, drugs,
pipelines etc. But it is part of a larger “war of civilizations”
designed to degrade and destroy Islam. Look for this war to expand and
go on forever.

———————–
On a related note, The New York Times reported Oct. 28, 2009 that the
brother of Afghan President Hamid Karzai has been getting regular
payments from the Central Intelligence Agency, citing current and
former U.S. officials.

”Ahmed Wali Karzai is a suspected player in Afghanistan’s opium trade
and has been paid by the CIA over the past eight years for services
that included helping to recruit an Afghan paramilitary force that
operates at the CIA’s direction in and around the southern city of
Kandahar,” the newspaper reported.

Read more…
http://www.prisonplanet.com/taliban-still-working-for-the-cia.html

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Raymond

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Nov 14, 2009, 4:31:33 PM11/14/09
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PAGE II
Twenty-Eight Thousand Soviet troops lost their lives
in Afghanistan. Can America top this number/ Why not?

The Afghan Poppy Fields Vital to American Economy

As Sec. Gates said, "You have to find a crop to replace
the poppies or every farmer becomes a Taliban recruit

The Beautiful Afghan Poppy Fields are the reason why American troops
are dying in a land so far away from home. And, the Afghan poppy
farmers need more troops to protect their poppy fields...or else....
drug addicts around the world will have to resort to some hard
prescription drugs from their family doctors, which will be no
problem.

In the 1990s, Afghanistan became the world’s largest producer of
opium
poppy, the plant whose pods are used to make opium, heroin and
morphine.

When Britain controlled Afghanistan, they owned the poppy trade. When
the French owned Indochina, they owned the poppy trade there. Once we
allied with the fundamentalists in Afghanistan in the 80's, drugs
started flowing out of there, through Pakistan, and to the US. Do you
suppose our leaders and business people are so pure they aren't
getting a cut of that?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&...

Drug Traffic Routes
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/episodes/bitter-harvest/map-from-po...
Traffic Routes the U.S.

Southwest Asian heroin — almost all of which comes from Afghanistan —
was much more prevalent in the 1980s, but now only accounts for six
percent of heroin consumed in the U.S. To reach New York City, the
primary U.S. transportation center for Southwest Asian heroin,
Afghan-
origin heroin travels from Pakistan through Nigeria. Heroin is also
smuggled via mail packages, by couriers on commercial planes, and in
containerized cargo. From New York, the drugs are shipped to Atlanta,
Chicago, and Detroit for further distribution.

Afghanistan Still Ruled by CIA & Heroin
by VICTOR THORN

Afghanistan now supplies over 90 percent of the world’s heroin,
generating nearly $200 billion in revenue.

Since the U.S. invasion on Oct. 7, 2001, opium output has increased
33- fold (to over 8,250 metric tons a year).

The U.S. has been in Afghanistan for over seven years, has spent $177
billion in that country alone, and has the most powerful and
technologically advanced military on Earth. GPS tracking devices can
locate any spot imaginable by simply pushing a few buttons.

Still, bumper crops keep flourishing year after year, even though
heroin production is a laborious, intricate process. The poppies must
be planted, grown and harvested; then after the morphine is extracted
it has to be cooked, refined, packaged into bricks and transported
from rural locales across national borders.

To make heroin from morphine requires another 12-14 hours of
laborious chemical reactions. Thousands of people are
involved, yet—despite the massive resources at our
disposal—heroin keeps flowing at record levels.

More: Business is good. Heroin keeps flowing onto the streets of
America thanks to the US military and the CIA.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=35&contentid=5666

The metal flag draped caskets arriving at Dover with the remains of
our fallen heros may not all contain their honored bodies. Caskets
have been used for reasons other than returning our dead and
may still be. During the war in Southesat Asia, many of the caskets
were filled with China-White heroin and were even attended to by
special forces honor guards. The killed in action (KIAs) slated for
internment in the National cemetaries would be stockpiled at Ton Son
Nhut Air-Base outside Saigon. Some of these caskets were full of
China-
White heroin with a special destination tag and an honor guard would
escort those special tags to an out-of-the-way airstrip where they
would disappear during the night.

It has been reported that pilots from Air America flew the heroin
out of Asia and the profits from its sale were used to finance CIA
operations. Anyone attempting to comprehend how billions of US
dollars were used in creating the agents and forces that launched the
Sept. attack will better understand it after reading the final chapter
of
The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia by Alfred W. McCoy
and Drugs, Oil, and the United States in Afghanistan,
Columbia, and Indonesia. by Peter Dale Scott.

The Politics of Heroin includes meticulous documentation of
dishonesty and dirty dealings from the Cold War until today. New
chapters detail US involvement in the narcotics trade in Afghanistan
and Pakistan before and after the fall of the Taliban and how it has
increased the global supply of illicit drugs. bin Laden is
not only an engineer, he is a narcotics dealer as
was another Bush favorite, Manuel Noriega.

Countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan earn more than 12 billion
in
drug trade every year.

The US government, with the aid of the CIA, has always had its
hand
in the illegal drug trafficing in Asia, the Middle East, and South
and
Central America, so all of those young Americans are not dying so far
away from home because a government wants to liberate anyone nor
spread America type democracy. It is often because someone in our
government wants to liberate some farmer from his poppy plants.

The pretty Afghan poppy fields will soon be harvested. It pays so
well
compared with food crops. It will provide over 90% of the world’s
needs for Opium and the recreational drugs derived from it. It is
ironic that those old, Mujahideen warlords, the Taliban and Al qaeda,
(and the CIA) control Afghanistan’s drug-trafficking cartel. It is
both ironic and hypocritical as it is against all Islamic doctrine.
But to these criminals, it is all about money to fight a war. They
will be buying ever increasingly sophisticated weaponry on the arms
black market and they will have the money to do it. The future is
looking increasingly bleak for the small number of allied troops that
come mostly from, what Churchill once referred to as, “The English
speaking world”. I do not understand why the allied governments do
not buy the poppy crop and then destroy it. Equally, purchasing food
crops at a higher price would be a disincentive for farmers to grow
poppies in the first place. Have we forgotten Afghanistan….. again?
But not for long - Afghan farmers are expecting a bumper crop this
year. That's the good news for Americans

From Poppy Field to Western Markets: Opium Production in
Afghanistan .... Corporate support is provided by Mutual of America
Life Insurance Company.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/episodes/bitter-harvest/map-from-po...

The poppy fields of Afghanistan are farmed. These fields, along with
the mountains that surround them share a human destruction with those
fields in France. Twenty-Eight Thousand Soviet troops lost their
lives
in Afghanistan. But how did a band of lawless tribesmen overcome the
might of one of the world’s superpowers? On the face of it, it seems
to an impossible achievement. The answer is equally puzzling since
one
man made it possible for this ruffian group of unprofessional
soldiers
to win: Charlie Wilson

Charlie Wilson was a Democrat congressman for Texas, is best known
for
Federal prosecutors investigation into his cocaine party at Caesar’s
Palace in Las Vegas. His womanizing and hot tub antics were legendry
within the Beltway. But his debauched lifestyle concealed a much more
focused and serious man than anybody would have given him the credit
for.

Wilson was appointed to the Defense appropriations sub-committee and
this is where he exercised his power. He used his position to
manipulate CIA funds towards the Afghan Mujahideen. It is a mystery
as
to just how a congressman managed to do this. This power is not,
constitutionally, in the hands of a man such as Wilson. It belongs to
the president and congress was the body that gave the president that
exclusive right. So where were the checks and balances? Congress was
not aware of Wilson’s appropriations on behalf of the CIA. There was
no congressional debate or scrutiny. But ultimately there was no
accountability to the American people. They were unaware of what was
being done in their name since nobody consulted them or their
representatives.

Cont'd
http://www.nowpublic.com/opinions/poppy-fields-part-2-afghanistan

So, how do you cut off this powerful source of drugs and money?
The Poppy Fields Of Afghanistan
by Katie Couric

Ambassador Richard Holbrooke has said destroying the poppy fields
would only strengthen the Taliban. As Sec. Gates told me today, you
have to find a crop to replace the poppies or every farmer becomes a
Taliban recruit

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/05/07/couricandco/entry4999323.shtml


Perry Neheum

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Nov 15, 2009, 5:11:05 PM11/15/09
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The fastest population growth in all religions is among Muslims and
Christians.

Thus, we have nearly half the world's population -- 3 billion --
socially and psychologically enslaved by and in the two most
laughable, hypocritical, hate-filled, racist, and war-loving mass-
cults -- at each others' throats in an insoluble religious war!

Forever, it would seem.

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