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Jeffrey Hamilton  
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 More options Aug 11 2012, 8:01 am
Newsgroups: us.military.army, sci.military.naval, alt.politics, alt.war.vietnam, talk.politics.guns
From: "Jeffrey Hamilton" <bberesf...@cogeco.ca>
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 08:01:26 -0400
Local: Sat, Aug 11 2012 8:01 am
Subject: Re: Why the 2nd Amendment Right isn't Limited to only Militias
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Scout wrote:
> "Jeffrey Hamilton" <bberesf...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
> news:k02tpa$2vb$1@dont-email.me...
>> Bert wrote:
>>> In news:k018ec$qtu$1@dont-email.me "Jeffrey Hamilton"
>>> <bberesf...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

>>>> Bert wrote:
>>>>> In news:jvurkt$okd$1@dont-email.me "Jeffrey Hamilton"
>>>>> <bberesf...@cogeco.ca> wrote:

>>>>>> What many 1st world nations recognize is that, American death
>>>>>> toll is approx. 25,000 citizens per year due to guns.
>>>>>> Just under 10,000 murdered and a further 15, 000 by suicide.
>>>>>> The rest of the civilized world believes those figures to be
>>>>>> extremely excessive and unnecessary.

>>>>> Well, you could always invade and fix things up.

>>>> That method seldom works, look at Iraq for example.

>>> Surely you smart people could fix things up better than the savage
>>> Americans.

>> If you mean by having fewer deaths due to gun play per capita, why
>> yes, Canada already has.

> And Mexico has more deaths due to gun play per capita.

Compared to whom ?

See the figures below, I made it easy for you to demonstrate the % of deaths
per capita due to gun play.

>> If you savage Americans wish to achieve similar results, then follow
>> Canada's example.

> Which would also be just like following Mexico's.

Why, Canada (pop.34,482,779)    had   144 deaths due to gun play.
Mexico           ( pop.110.810,000) had 2,606 deaths due to gun play.
United States (pop.312,780,968)   had 9,369 deaths due to gun play

> So why the difference in rates?

Canada is normal and has strong gun control laws.

Mexico, I believe has strong gun control laws too, but it's practically in a
state of anarchy, due to corruption and the drug cartels, oh yeah, and an
absolute shit load of  smuggled weapons from the United States.

The United States, last I heard, has approx. 20,000 gun laws (federal and
state), many of which it would appear, don't seem to work very well. Now why
is that, do you think ?

> Are you really sure it's just the gun control laws?

In Canada, yes, in the US I believe it depends on how well they are written
and how well they are enforced.
Case in point, the Safeway store shooter and the Viriginia Tech shooter,
both were able to purchase firearms through the simple expediency of lying.
To me, that indicates either a poorly written, or a poorly enforced law.
Having a shit load of gun control laws means diddly squat if they're merely
*window dressing*.

 
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