STEVEL - BUSH CONTROLLED 911 ATTACK
DGVREIMAN
STEVEL - BUSH CONTROLLED 911 ATTACK
This alleged "docudrama" is a partisan hack job.
It is not based on any historical fact and ignores the real evidence
that points to Georges string pullers.
The simple truth is that what became the Bush administration was in
control of the whole 911 operation from start to grisly finish.
You should choose another nickname because perspicacious you are not.
Try "Dupe" instead.
Stevel
Doug Says: Nigel Brooks says his gang member SteveL never lies. So do
you agree with Nigel Brooks and SteveL that President Bush "was in
control of the whole 911 operation from start to grisly finish?" like
SteveL says above?
Doug Grant (Tm)
SteveL
wrote:
Not me Doogie.
At least try to find a few posts by stev...@ntlworld.com
sste...@aol.com is not me Doggie-shit
I'm sure you think just spamming every "traitorous" post you can find
by anyone with the handle stevel is very "clever" and grown-up"
But to sane people it just marks you as a dishonest cunt.
DGVREIMAN
"SteveL" <stev...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:7umdnVyxR-UXQhjR...@giganews.com...
> On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 23:29:32 -0700, "DGVREIMAN"
> <dgvr...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>http://tinyurl.com/2dcomrz
>>
>>STEVEL - BUSH CONTROLLED 911 ATTACK
>>
>>This alleged "docudrama" is a partisan hack job.
>>
>>It is not based on any historical fact and ignores the real evidence
>>that points to Georges string pullers.
>>
>>The simple truth is that what became the Bush administration was in
>>control of the whole 911 operation from start to grisly finish.
>>
>>You should choose another nickname because perspicacious you are
>>not.
>>Try "Dupe" instead.
>>
>>Stevel
>>
>>Doug Says: Nigel Brooks says his gang member SteveL never lies. So
>>do
>>you agree with Nigel Brooks and SteveL that President Bush "was in
>>control of the whole 911 operation from start to grisly finish?"
>>like
>>SteveL says above?
>>
>>Doug Grant (Tm)
>
> Not me Doogie.
>
> At least try to find a few posts by stev...@ntlworld.com
>
> sste...@aol.com is not me Doggie-shit
>
> STeveL accounts.
Doug Grant (Tm)
MAC
wrote:
>
>STEVEL - BUSH CONTROLLED 911 ATTACK
>
>This alleged "docudrama" is a partisan hack job.
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And, once again, Doug Grant continues his threats regarding
lawsuits and does not provide the name of the alleged attorneys, the
date they allegedly "filed" the documents, the jurisdiction of the
Court, the Court document numbers... and, of course, although he
claims such was done, he still has not provided the officer
contacted and the location of the institutions he loudly proclaimed
he contacted... i.e., the office of a U.S. Attorney, the office of the
F.B.I., etc., etc., etc.
Says quite a bit regarding his usual threats and manner of
operating.
-Mac, the Medic
MAC
wrote:
> sste...@aol.com is not me Doggie-shit
========================================
> Of course it is you. You post the same hate America under several
> STeveL accounts.
>Doug Grant (Tm)
*******************************************
Of course you can document your statement ? ?
With FACTS...?
Not your opinion.
JEEZ.
Hell, you can't even locate him.
And, remember your claim that "Law Enforcement is looking for
SteveL..." ? ?
That was priceless.
Your stone-walling sure showed your mettle.
Nigel Brooks
"SteveL" <stev...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:7umdnVyxR-UXQhjR...@giganews.com...
Knowing full well Mr. Reiman's propensity to mischaracterize the facts
(legal talk for lying) - I feel it is necessary to define precisely what I
meant when I stated that SteveL never lies (or words to that effect).
The SteveL I was referring to in my comment, was the individual who posts
using the stev...@ntlworld.com account and no other individual who might
use the netname SteveL.
DGVREIMAN
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From: "Nigel Brooks" <nbr...@msn.com>
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Subject: Re: STEVEL - BUSH CONTROLLED 911 ATTACK
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"Nigel Brooks" <nbr...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:8en42h...@mid.individual.net...
Doug Says: Of course it is SteveL. This hate america propagandist's
SteveL claims that he only used one account under the SteveL name is
outright fraud. His claim that I should ignore all posts unless they
are in his a Ntlworld.com account is also pure fraud. Ask SteveL how
many different accounts he used with the SteveL name and watch him
run, hide and duck and dance.
>>
> Knowing full well Mr. Reiman's propensity to mischaracterize the
> facts (legal talk for lying) - I feel it is necessary to define
> precisely what I meant when I stated that SteveL never lies (or
> words to that effect).
> The SteveL I was referring to in my comment, was the individual who
> posts using the stev...@ntlworld.com account and no other
> individual who might use the netname SteveL.
My standard Disclaimer applies to this post, all past posts, and all
future posts. If you have not read my disclaimer please email or
answer this post with a request to see it.
Doug 's Rebuttal#1: Mr. Brooks, the only thing you have ever proved
about me on USENET is that my rebuttals about your fraud about me are
true. Other than that, you have zero credibility.
>
Doug's Rebuttal#2: Mr. Brooks, we both know that Ste...@ntlworld.com
uses several different accounts under the SteveL handle to post on
USENET. That is why SteveL ducks my question as to how many different
accounts he used under the name SteveL. He knows I know the truth.
I suspect (but cannot prove) that you knew that SteveL posted on
USENET under several different accounts when he became a member of
your hate gang. If you did not, then you did not perform due
dilligence on one of your own gang members.
It should be clear to you by now that SteveL arrived at this Veterans'
forum for the exclusive purpose of defaming me. As these past posts
prove, I had been effectively challenging SteveL's hate America/hate
our troops/lies about 911 for years before he sucked you in to help
him defame Veterans that expose his hate America, hate our Troops,
pro-terrorist propaganda.
(I also have volumes of information on many other accounts from
several members of your hate gang - but it is better to wait for the
lies about what we know once we get into discovery or investigation).
SteveL knows I know about his other SteveL accounts and that is why
he is ducking my question about how many other accounts he used.
HOWEVER, Iwith that said, I will **accept** your clarification above
as true.
I suspect you are starting to realize (the hard way) that some posts
need clarification by the author so as to provide true intent and
meaning.
Your statement that you were only talking about the posts SteveL
posted under a single one of his multiple accounts (NTLworld) is
certainly questionable, but you were the author of the post and ONLY
YOU knew what you were thinking at the time you wrote that SteveL
never lies . Ergo, logic, ethics and honest reasoning dictates to me
that I must accept your clarification that you were only talking about
Ste...@ntlworld.com posts when you said that SteveL never lies, and
you did not know about his other multiple accounts in which he used
the SteveL handle.
So if I have posted that you said SteveL never lies under any post he
posted without the NTLWORLD account listed as the account he was using
in that post, I hereby withdraw the statement you said SteveL never
lies in respect to all accounts he uses and used with the exception of
the one you confirmed was the basis for your statement that SteveL
never lies - which is the ste...@ntlworld.com account.
See how easy that is Brooks? If an author tells you his true intent,
it really is impossible to honestly or logically refute what the
author of the post says.
Doug Grant (Tm)
>
SteveL
wrote:
>>>
>>> Not me Doogie.
>>>
>>> At least try to find a few posts by stev...@ntlworld.com
>>>
>>> sste...@aol.com is not me Doggie-shit
>
>Doug Says: Of course it is SteveL. This hate america propagandist's
>SteveL claims that he only used one account under the SteveL name is
>outright fraud.
Whoa Whoa Whoa.
Hmm, what's doogie going for here? Is his final stand going to be to
dredge up some ancient post made before I even joined NTL and
triumphantly claim "Here's a post SteveL made using a *Demon* account
in 2001!!!, see how I've proven him to be a liar!!!"
It would not surprise me.
> His claim that I should ignore all posts unless they
>are in his a Ntlworld.com account is also pure fraud.
Nobody's saying you should "ignore" any posts. Just don't falsely
attribute the words of other people onto me - just because you *want*
me to have said what the other person said.
Right now you're doing it with other "SteveL"s (or in this case a
Stevel). You've already falsely attributed the words of Josh Dougherty
to me in an absolute deliberate demonstration of pathological
dishonesty.
What next Doug? Just picking posts at random from Usenet and claiming
I wrote them under an alias?
You have form for that too.
> Ask SteveL how
>many different accounts he used with the SteveL name and watch him
>run, hide and duck and dance.
Let's ask *you* how many times I have to deny that for you to stop
asking me to deny it.
Your "logic" is absolutely fucking *crazy*.
That a person wishing to hide their authorship of a particular post
would use the SAME handle name, but only change the news server and
email address is just nuts Doug.
I am not ashamed of any of my posts Doug (unlike you with so many of
yours).
If you think you can show that I have posted under different
identities then prove it. I especially demand you prove that I have
posted under the email address sste...@aol.com.
A ten year old post from stevelon.demon.co.uk won't do.
Wow. What a bunch of crazy gibberish.
Nigel Brooks
"SteveL" <stev...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:JYidnUmwrqyoIhvR...@giganews.com...
It certainly is - totally incomprehensible.
I'm particularly intrigued by his argument that "some posts need
clarification by the author so as to provide true intent and meaning."
If an individual is in a usenet battle with an opponent, and that opponent
say's
"I have a Purple Heart and a CAR that proves you wrong, Dougie. "
and that opponent has previously stated:
"1. I served 9 years in the USMC. Among my decorations are a Combat Action
Ribbon and a Purple Heart I have the dubious *honor* of *winning* after
being wounded in action in Beirut in 1983. "
I don't see any clarification is necessary. It is reasonable to conclude
that the individual is claiming to have been awarded the United States
Military medal - the Purple Heart for wounds received as a result of action
against an enemy of the United States. And that he also has a Combat Action
Ribbon.
If as a direct result of that post "I have a Purple Heart and a CAR that
proves you wrong, Dougie. " there is a response of"
"Doug Says: I have a Purple Heart also, and I received mine in a real war,
I can't imagine where you got yours since you have never fought in a war.
About the only place you could have received a purple heart was in Lebanon,
and that was not a shooting war, just a bombing due to the ineptitude of a
gang of Marine officers."
I don't see any need for clarification either. It appears quite apparent to
me that both of the individuals were claiming to have received the United
States Military Medal for wounds received as a result of action against an
enemy of the United States.
Likewise, if an individual posts the following in a usenet newsgroup:
"I will never forget the day when a little smiling girl no more than 4 or 5
years old started walking towards me trying to give me a pack of cigarettes.
I was forced to shoot her. "
I don't see any need for clarification - the individual is clearly claiming
to have shot a 4 to 5 year old child.
DGVREIMAN
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:13:16 -0700, "DGVREIMAN"
> <dgvr...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> Not me Doogie.
>>>>
>>>> At least try to find a few posts by stev...@ntlworld.com
>>>>
>>>> sste...@aol.com is not me Doggie-shit
>>
>>Doug Says: Of course it is SteveL. This hate america
>>propagandist's
>>SteveL claims that he only used one account under the SteveL name
>>is
>>outright fraud.
>
> Whoa Whoa Whoa.
>
> Hmm, what's doogie going for here? Is his final stand going to be to
> dredge up some ancient post made before I even joined NTL and
> triumphantly claim "Here's a post SteveL made using a *Demon*
> account
> in 2001!!!, see how I've proven him to be a liar!!!"
>
> It would not surprise me.
Note that SteveL just admitted (after he did a quick search and proved
I could prove he lied about only using the NTL world account) that IN
FACT HE DID USE OTHER ACCOUNTS! Like I said - he lies.
Doug Grant (Tm)
>
>
Jack G.
> "SteveL" <steve...@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote in message
>
> news:JYidnUmwrqyoIhvR...@giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 15:13:16 -0700, "DGVREIMAN"
> > wrote:
>
> >>>> Not me Doogie.
>
> >>>> At least try to find a few posts by steve...@ntlworld.com
>
> >>>> sstev...@aol.com is not me Doggie-shit
>
> >>Doug Says: Of course it is SteveL. This hate america
> >>propagandist's
> >>SteveL claims that he only used one account under the SteveL name
> >>is
> >>outright fraud.
>
> > Whoa Whoa Whoa.
>
> > Hmm, what's doogie going for here? Is his final stand going to be to
> > dredge up some ancient post made before I even joined NTL and
> > triumphantly claim "Here's a post SteveL made using a *Demon*
> > account
> > in 2001!!!, see how I've proven him to be a liar!!!"
>
> > It would not surprise me.
>
> Note that SteveL just admitted (after he did a quick search and proved
> I could prove he lied about only using the NTL world account) that IN
> FACT HE DID USE OTHER ACCOUNTS! Like I said - he lies.
>
> Doug Grant (Tm)
>
>
>
>
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All Doug has left is playground chatter.
Stop dancing around and prove at least one of your war experiences is
true.
Tell us how you won the Combat Action Ribbon and your Miraculous
Marine deployment to earn this award?
Nigel Brooks
"Jack G." <j.gr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:efc22976-f3bd-4bcb...@q40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
Here's one:
" (1)Hobo Woods (2) Au Shaw Valley (3) Tet 1968 (4) Battle for Hue (5)May
Iron Triangle Offensive 1969...etc Those were some of the battles I
*personally* was involved, and I *personally* watched and heard the
"newsboys" broadcast our tactics"
or another when in September 2003 when he claimed:
"I knew General Clark, I met him once in Vietnam and again in Aberdeen
Proving Ground (I believe it was he at Aberdeen but I am not positive) and I
am sure he will never remember me, and for that I am thankful."
Apparently a year later in September 2004 he was positive because he said:
"I was introduced to General Clark, and I answered several of his
questions - and therefore, I knew the man. Of course I did, he inspected my
section at Aberdeen Proving Ground."
"Doug Says: Duh, John, I said I knew General Clark, you said I did not,
then you repost one of my past posts that prove what I said was true and
that you have been caught lying again?"
Was Reiman lying? Of course he was - John Agosta nailed him on it but he
continued to profess that he had in fact met Clark
(http://tinyurl.com/iknewgeneralclark).
When a fool like Reiman begins to craft a lie - they don't do so with any
intelligence, if indeed he had been intelligent he would have known exactly
where Clark was when he (Reiman) was at Aberdeen Proving Grounds and
Vietnam.
Apparently Reiman thought he could bully and bluff his way through, not
realizing that a simple FOIA would show his mendacity.
What a fool - what a tangled web
SteveL
<dgvr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Doug Says: Of course it is SteveL. This hate america
>>>propagandist's
>>>SteveL claims that he only used one account under the SteveL name
>>>is
>>>outright fraud.
>>
>> Whoa Whoa Whoa.
>>
>> Hmm, what's doogie going for here? Is his final stand going to be to
>> dredge up some ancient post made before I even joined NTL and
>> triumphantly claim "Here's a post SteveL made using a *Demon*
>> account
>> in 2001!!!, see how I've proven him to be a liar!!!"
>>
>> It would not surprise me.
>
>Note that SteveL just admitted
I "admitted" nothing. I just accurately predicted your dishonest
tactic.
> (after he did a quick search and proved
A "quick search"? to remember what ISP I used to have?
Unlike you I have no cognitive issues.
>I could prove he lied about only using the NTL world account) that IN
>FACT HE DID USE OTHER ACCOUNTS! Like I said - he lies.
You're the liar Doug. I only use the NTLWORLD address.That's a fact.
Before I had that account I had a different account (Demon, as you
know), and that's the only one I used back then too.
There's no overlap. One account at a time is hardly "multiple
accounts", but you'll keep twisting that into "admission" to a Doogie
definition of "multiple accounts", but you're full of it as usual.
What you're doing is no different to asking someone if they're
faithful to their partner, and when they duly affirm their fidelity,
call them liars because they used to be in another relationship, and
didn't think to say anything about *that*!!!!
Past ISP accounts do not imply a propensity to post under multiple
accounts Doug.
>Doug Grant (Tm)
>>
>>