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Nov 9, 2005, 9:49:10 AM11/9/05
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Army Invades NASCAR Nation to Drive Recruitment
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1293441&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

ATLANTA, Nov. 8, 2005 — There is fresh evidence today
of the challenges the Army faces in signing up recruits.

The Army will meet its recruiting goals for last month -
but only after it tripled the number of recruits who
scored at the bottom of its aptitude tests.
________________________________________________________


gramps

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"Tuttle's Almanac" <Harry....@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote in message
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> Army Invades NASCAR Nation to Drive Recruitment
> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1293441&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
>
> ATLANTA, Nov. 8, 2005 - There is fresh evidence today

> of the challenges the Army faces in signing up recruits.
>
> The Army will meet its recruiting goals for last month -
> but only after it tripled the number of recruits who
> scored at the bottom of its aptitude tests.

Yeah, I saw that on the news last night. Looks like Uncle Scam is trolling
the trailer parks as well as the hoods and barrios for fresh cannon fodder

dapra

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Nov 9, 2005, 1:53:52 PM11/9/05
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The NASCAR Nation votes against its economic interest. It's not
surprising, they put themselves on the line for Bush's 'base'. The
recruiters would not have much success with the $2000 a plate dinner
crowd or their children.

DGVREIMAN

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"gramps" <nos...@nospam.org> wrote in message
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Doug Says: Some of the best soldiers in history scored low on
the recruiting aptitude tests. It is rare for any recruit to
score very high - and those tests mean very little anyway. It is
the tests the recruits take after they enter the military that
count - not the general entrance test. I noticed that most of
the "professional students" that took the tests when I was a
Station Commander of a Recruiting Station scored the lowest - and
the minorities, as a whole, and High School Grads, scored the
highest. So if the Army is getting a lot of low scores then it
must be doing a lot of recruiting at liberal Universities.

I should also point out to you idiots that soldiers from the
Hood (black Soldiers) Mexican Americans and non-rich Whites makes
for the best soldiers in the world - and they have been keeping
your pathetic assess safe for centuries. We have seen what kind
of Soldier the John Kerry ilk becomes - traitor - and can you
imagine "I have a scream Dean" or "Bill Clinton" in the
Military? Hillary Clinton would do better in combat boots than
those two whiners and duck walkers.

The recruits are coming in by the droves. Go back and tell your
terrorist friends your propaganda is not working.

Doug Grant (Tm)

Doug Grant (Tm)
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Tom Lacombe

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Nov 9, 2005, 6:30:34 PM11/9/05
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:23:38 -0500, "DGVREIMAN" <DGVR...@COMCAST.NET>
wrote:

Doug the fact is that the all-volunteer Army had raised the bar. Now
it has been lowered, and incentives have been upped, and still there
are not enough recruits.
http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html

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In <ki95n1dji0cq3ci3d...@4ax.com>, on 11/10/2005
at 01:46 AM, Omega <omeg...@gmail.com> said:

>So what you are saying is that one votes away freedom in favor of money?

Well gee asshole -->You don't see kids of the rich lining up to go find
roadside bombs, do you now.

PS: You ought to get your ass to iraqnam and find one for bush -- instead
of being a wannabee mouthing off here.


>That is why union members are not voting their pocket books but rather
>their guns...

>---
>"If ye love wealth better than liberty ... servitude better than ...
>freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms
>... May your chains set lightly upon you. May posterity forget that ye
>were our countrymen."
> - Samuel Adams

leto...@nospam.net

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The whole military is an utter failure you idiot. -->For 50 years they
have been planning for two major wars at the same time. Now they have two
little wars at the same time and can't win either one.

I think its because there are too many idiot like you in the service. Now
the army is adding more...


In <2h95n1djb6stn0rqb...@4ax.com>, on 11/10/2005
at 01:45 AM, Omega <omeg...@gmail.com> said:

>Army Has No Plans to Drop Recruiting Standards
>http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2005/20051109_3283.html

>{EXCERPT} By Donna Miles American Forces Press Service

>WASHINGTON, Nov. 9, 2005 - The Army is looking for the best in its
>prospective recruits and won't let standards slip as it fills its ranks,
>the top general for Army recruiting and retention said today during an
>interview on C-SPAN's "Washington Journal."

>Lt. Gen. Robert L. Van Antwerp, who heads the Army Accessions Command,
>dismissed allegations that a recent spike in recruits who score lowest in
>military entrance tests and an increase in those without high school
>diplomas represents a watering down of the force.

>Twelve percent of the Army's October recruits, many of them from the
>Delayed Entry Program pool, were so-called "Category 4" recruits, whose
>entrance test scores are the lowest the Army will accept.

>Van Antwerp said these accessions tend to be higher than average early in
>the fiscal year, but that they will even out over the rest of the year.
>Category 4 recruits will represent less than 4 percent of the Army's
>recruits by the year's end, he said.

>"Based on what we brought in in October, it's high," Van Antwerp said.
>"But based on the annual mission (through Sept. 30, 2006), we will be
>well under 4 percent."

>Similarly, Van Antwerp said, the Army won't allow more than 10 percent of
>its recruits to have general equivalency diplomas rather than high school
>diplomas.

>Only about one-quarter of the 17- to 24-year-olds who make up the Army's
>prime recruiting market are eligible to enlist; a variety of factors,
>including education, health, weight, morality and legal issues,
>disqualify many prospects. Despite this recruiting environment, Van
>Antwerp said he's encouraged by the recent upswing in recruitment.

>"Army recruiting is going very well right now," Van Antwerp said. August
>represented the Army's best recruiting months since July 2001, and the
>Army exceeded its recruiting missions for both September and October, he
>said.

>"So we are off to a great start," Van Antwerp said.

>These recruiting successes are critical as the Army works toward building
>a force capable of putting 355,000 operational soldiers in the field, he
>said. The ultimate goal, Van Antwerp said, is to be able to put "the
>right soldier in the right unit at the right time, trained to standards."

>Educational incentives and recruiting bonuses are a big help in
>recruiting members, but patriotism remains the biggest draw, Van Antwerp
>said. That sense of patriotism is evident in the troops who join the
>military, all recognizing that they are likely to be required to deploy
>in support of the war on terror, he said.

>It's also a big part of what Van Antwerp said led him to encourage his
>own three sons -- all who are serving or have served in the Middle East
>-- to join the military. "I didn't say, 'You have to come into the
>Army,'" he said. "But I did strongly encourage them to serve and serve
>early in their life so they get that sense of what it is like to do
>something for someone else that makes a difference."

>Once soldiers get a taste of that experience, they frequently want to
>stay in the military, Van Antwerp said. The Army exceeded its fiscal 2005
>retention goal by more than 5,000, with more than 69,000 soldiers
>re-enlisting, he said.

>The re-enlistment bonus "is a factor, but the major factor is the team,"
>Van Antwerp said. "It's what happens when you get into the Army. It's
>being part of something that's very significant."

>Biography:

>Lt. Gen. Robert L. Van Antwerp, USA [
>http://www.usaac.army.mil/vanantwerpbio.html

>Related Sites:

>U.S. Army Accessions Command [
>http://www.usaac.army.mil/

>U.S. Army Recruiting Command [
>http://www.usarec.army.mil/

dapra

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Nov 9, 2005, 9:32:32 PM11/9/05
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Omega wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:53:52 -0500, dapra <dap...@comcast.net> wrote:
>

> So what you are saying is that one votes away freedom in favor of money?

First they vote for Bush to ship their jobs to Mexico and China. Then
they vote for Bush, and send their sons to fight and die for Exxon's and
Huliburton's record profits. At the same time their pensions are taken
away, their salaries are cut in half, if they still have a job.

>
> That is why union members are not voting their pocket books but rather their
> guns...

Soon they will have only their guns. But it won't match the power of
Poindexters police state.

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Nov 9, 2005, 10:05:42 PM11/9/05
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In <8qc5n1dupsfm3n1r5...@4ax.com>, on 11/10/2005
at 02:41 AM, Omega <omeg...@gmail.com> said:

>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:26:11 GMT, leto...@nospam.net wrote:

>|
>|The whole military is an utter failure you idiot. -->For 50 years they
>|have been planning for two major wars at the same time. Now they have two
>|little wars at the same time and can't win either one.
>|
>|I think its because there are too many idiot like you in the service. Now
>|the army is adding more...

>Kind of hard to fight two wars when most of the manpower was cut out of
>the system in the 1990s.

So you must be pretty angry with the republican congress back then who did
it, eh!

dapra

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Nov 9, 2005, 10:12:05 PM11/9/05
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Omega wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:32:32 -0500, dapra <dap...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> |> |> "Tuttle's Almanac" <Harry....@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote in message
> |> |> news:11n4336...@corp.supernews.com...
> |> |>
> |> |>>Army Invades NASCAR Nation to Drive Recruitment
> |> |>> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1293441&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
> |> |>>
> |> |>>ATLANTA, Nov. 8, 2005 - There is fresh evidence today
> |> |>>of the challenges the Army faces in signing up recruits.
> |> |>>
> |> |>>The Army will meet its recruiting goals for last month -
> |> |>>but only after it tripled the number of recruits who
> |> |>>scored at the bottom of its aptitude tests.
> |> |>
> |> |>
> |> |> Yeah, I saw that on the news last night. Looks like Uncle Scam is trolling
> |> |> the trailer parks as well as the hoods and barrios for fresh cannon fodder
> |> |>
> |> |
> |> |The NASCAR Nation votes against its economic interest. It's not
> |> |surprising, they put themselves on the line for Bush's 'base'. The
> |> |recruiters would not have much success with the $2000 a plate dinner
> |> |crowd or their children.
> |>
> |> So what you are saying is that one votes away freedom in favor of money?
> |
> |First they vote for Bush to ship their jobs to Mexico and China. Then
> |they vote for Bush, and send their sons to fight and die for Exxon's and
> |Huliburton's record profits. At the same time their pensions are taken
> |away, their salaries are cut in half, if they still have a job.
>
> Most of the jobs going out of the country I would not want to work at. These
> are jobs that need to be automated. If automated then no need for workers
> anyway.

You may not want these jobs. But the NASCAR crowd is not made of
investment bankers or the tycoons of the industry.

>
> |>
> |> That is why union members are not voting their pocket books but rather their
> |> guns...
> |
> |Soon they will have only their guns. But it won't match the power of
> |Poindexters police state.
>

> The concept is that everyone serves thus there is no way that there can be a
> police state.

What a naivety! What do you think? How long does it take, for a
government that murders, tortures foreigners, to do the same to their
'left' or 'right' wingers, if they disagree, resist THE STATE.

> However what we are seeing in Europe is a new form of police
> state, one done by the minority. In this case, Muslims.
>

Kids burning cars is NOT a police state.

Tom Lacombe

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Nov 9, 2005, 10:13:03 PM11/9/05
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:47:06 GMT, Omega <omeg...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:26:13 GMT, leto...@nospam.net wrote:
>
>
>|>|>>Army Invades NASCAR Nation to Drive Recruitment
>|>|>> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1293441&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
>|>|>>
>|>|>>ATLANTA, Nov. 8, 2005 - There is fresh evidence today
>|>|>>of the challenges the Army faces in signing up recruits.
>|>|>>
>|>|>>The Army will meet its recruiting goals for last month -
>|>|>>but only after it tripled the number of recruits who
>|>|>>scored at the bottom of its aptitude tests.
>|>|>
>|>|>
>|>|> Yeah, I saw that on the news last night. Looks like Uncle Scam is trolling
>|>|> the trailer parks as well as the hoods and barrios for fresh cannon fodder
>|>|>
>|>|
>|>|The NASCAR Nation votes against its economic interest. It's not
>|>|surprising, they put themselves on the line for Bush's 'base'. The
>|>|recruiters would not have much success with the $2000 a plate dinner
>|>|crowd or their children.
>|
>|>So what you are saying is that one votes away freedom in favor of money?
>|
>|Well gee asshole -->You don't see kids of the rich lining up to go find
>|roadside bombs, do you now.
>|
>|PS: You ought to get your ass to iraqnam and find one for bush -- instead
>|of being a wannabee mouthing off here.
>

>No the children of the rich are generally messed up. Look at Al Gore's son. Or
>most of the Kennedy kids. Or Paris Hilton.
>
>And with people like you here in the US, the troops might just say screw and let
>the Muslims just take over the US.


>
>
>|
>|>That is why union members are not voting their pocket books but rather
>|>their guns...
>|
>|>---
>|>"If ye love wealth better than liberty ... servitude better than ...
>|>freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms
>|>... May your chains set lightly upon you. May posterity forget that ye
>|>were our countrymen."
>|> - Samuel Adams
>
>---
>"If ye love wealth better than liberty ... servitude better than ... freedom,
>go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms ... May your
>chains set lightly upon you. May posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
> - Samuel Adams

Omega, While you were on the subject of rich kids don't forget the
Bush twins. And by the way the kids of the rich and famous are not
the only kids that can get into trouble.
http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html

leto...@nospam.net

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Nov 9, 2005, 10:22:10 PM11/9/05
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In <nrc5n15ds3citqkfu...@4ax.com>, on 11/10/2005
at 02:45 AM, Omega <omeg...@gmail.com> said:

>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:32:32 -0500, dapra <dap...@comcast.net> wrote:


>|> |> "Tuttle's Almanac" <Harry....@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote in message
>|> |> news:11n4336...@corp.supernews.com...
>|> |>
>|> |>>Army Invades NASCAR Nation to Drive Recruitment
>|> |>> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1293441&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
>|> |>>
>|> |>>ATLANTA, Nov. 8, 2005 - There is fresh evidence today
>|> |>>of the challenges the Army faces in signing up recruits.
>|> |>>
>|> |>>The Army will meet its recruiting goals for last month -
>|> |>>but only after it tripled the number of recruits who
>|> |>>scored at the bottom of its aptitude tests.
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |> Yeah, I saw that on the news last night. Looks like Uncle Scam is trolling
>|> |> the trailer parks as well as the hoods and barrios for fresh cannon fodder
>|> |>
>|> |
>|> |The NASCAR Nation votes against its economic interest. It's not
>|> |surprising, they put themselves on the line for Bush's 'base'. The
>|> |recruiters would not have much success with the $2000 a plate dinner
>|> |crowd or their children.
>|>
>|> So what you are saying is that one votes away freedom in favor of money?
>|
>|First they vote for Bush to ship their jobs to Mexico and China. Then
>|they vote for Bush, and send their sons to fight and die for Exxon's and
>|Huliburton's record profits. At the same time their pensions are taken
>|away, their salaries are cut in half, if they still have a job.

>Most of the jobs going out of the country I would not want to work at.

>These are jobs that need to be automated. If automated then no need for
>workers anyway.

Provide a citation for that. Or do you pull them out your right wing ass
too?


>|>
>|> That is why union members are not voting their pocket books but rather their
>|> guns...
>|
>|Soon they will have only their guns. But it won't match the power of
>|Poindexters police state.

>The concept is that everyone serves thus there is no way that there can
>be a police state. However what we are seeing in Europe is a new form of


>police state, one done by the minority. In this case, Muslims.

>Multiculturalism and the Self-Liquidation of Europe

>By Robert Tracinski


>http://www.JewishWorldReview.com | On November 9, 1938, the Nazi
>government launched a vicious pogrom in which thousand of Jews were
>rounded up and sent to concentration camps, while bands of young Nazi
>thugs smashed the windows of Jewish homes and shops. Kristallnacht
>the "Night of Broken Glass" sent through the world a premonition of
>the dark and murderous future that lay ahead for Europe.

>Over the past week and half, almost exactly 67 years later, another band
>of young thugs has taken to the streets in an orgy of brute violence,
>complete with racially and religiously motivated killings. But there is a
>strange difference.

>Then, the violence was directed against a hated racial and religious
>minority, in the name of the native majority. Today, it is racial and
>religious immigrant minority that is initiating a terror campaign against
>the native majority.

>Europe never learned the real lesson of the evils of Nazism. Rather than
>reject the deepest premises of the Nazis, they have inverted them into a
>new form, so that Europe no longer seeks to liquidate its racial
>minorities but instead empowers those minorities to carry out the
>self-liquidation of Europe.

>The standard view of Nazism is that the root of the Nazi atrocities was
>an excess of certainty and selfishness, which gave the Nazis the
>confidence to impose their interests by force. In reality, even a cursory
>examination of Nazi propaganda shows us the opposite. Rather than
>advocating of rational certainty, the Nazis were dogmatic subjectivists
>Hermann Goering famously declared that "two plus two makes five if the
>Fuhrer wills it" which inspired their hatred of the mind and their
>worship of brute force. (An Italian Fascist would declare that "when I
>hear the word 'culture,' I release the safety catch on my revolver.") And
>as for self-interest, the Nazis were thoroughgoing collectivists, who
>held that the interests of the individual must be ruthlessly sacrificed
>to the interests of the race. Hitler declared "Du bist nichts, dein Volk
>ist alles" "you are nothing, your race is everything."

>But what happens if you think as do most academics and those in the
>mainstream political left that certainty and selfishness were the
>fundamental vices of the Nazis? You will be ready to accept any of the
>real fundamentals of Nazism so long as they are cast in a more
>skeptical, self-deprecating form.

>That is precisely what Europe has done. The Europeans have accepted ideas
>that derive directly from Nazism both in their philosophical
>fundamentals and in their historical pedigree but in a more
>"politically correct" version.

>The ideology of these altruist Nazis is Multiculturalism.

>I got my first inklings of this some years ago, as a philosophy student,
>when I became aware of an academic controversy over revelations that two
>influential 20th-century philosophers Martin Heidegger and Paul de
>Man were Nazi sympathizers. Most of the controversy centered around
>whether this involvement with Nazism (Heidegger joined the Nazi Party,
>while de Man expressed sympathy for the Nazi cause) detracted from the
>value to be found in their philosophical work. But few comments addressed
>the philosophical similarity between Nazi ideology and the ideas of these
>two philosophers.

>This is a crucial question, because Heidegger and de Man were two
>founders of the most influential contemporary school of philosophy,
>called "Deconstruction," which has provided the theoretical foundation
>for Multiculturalism.

>In its essence, Deconstruction is an assault on reason in favor of the
>same dogmatic subjectivism held by the Nazis. It is the view that there
>is no such thing as objective truth, no way to prove anything by
>reference to facts and evidence. What, then, is the basis for any
>assertion about what is true or false, good or bad, right or wrong? All
>of these ideas are determined, not by objective facts, but by an
>inescapable web of irrational assumptions and subjective emotions. And
>what shapes those assumptions and emotions? Contemporary
>Deconstructionists conclude that they are shaped by collective social
>forces, by modern academia's holy trinity of "race, class, and gender."

>So here we get the two essentials of Nazism: the rejection of reason and
>the mind in favor of the worship of brute emotion, and the elevation of
>the collective over the individual. What, then, distinguishes the ideas
>of the modern intellectuals from the philosophy of the Nazis? The
>addition of an altruist twist. The Nazis were certainly
>pro-self-sacrifice, because they advocated (and enforced) the sacrifice
>of the individual self to the collective aggrandizement of the race. But
>the modern intellectuals declare that they are even more altruistic
>because they want to sacrifice our own race to other races.

>This is the essential meaning of Multiculturalism. The Multiculturalists
>accept the vicious Nazi assumption that an individual's ideas and values
>are determined by his race but, they say, the cardinal sin is to be
>too racially self-assertive, that is, the worst thing you can do is to
>assert the universal truth or superiority of your own group's culture at
>the expense of the ideas and values of others. "All cultures are equal"
>is the Multiculturalist theory. In practice, this means that we must be
>ready to subordinate our own culture the culture of Western
>civilization in order to show our "respect" for the cultures of every
>other group on earth, from the Eskimos and Patagonians to the culture of,
>say, the North African Arabs.

>The meaning of Multiculturalism becomes clearest when it confronts the
>religion of Islam.

>The Muslims also denigrate reason, not in favor of personal emotion but
>in favor of an equally subjective faith; in Islam, two and two make five
>if Allah wills it. As for the relationship of Islam to other cultures,
>the Koran is very clear. People of other cultures are to be forcibly
>converted to Islam under threat of death except for a few whose
>existence may be tolerated so long as they accept the status of "dhimmi,"
>second-class citizens who dutifully accept a whole series of restrictions
>lest they offend the sensibilities of Muslims.

>Multiculturalism is a program for self-imposed dhimmitude. I have already
>pointed this out in stories I have written about the absurd lengths to
>which Western Multiculturalists are willing to go to expunge our own
>culture out of an obsequious respect for Muslim "sensibilities." The
>examples range from the trivial (removing a public sculpture of a pig in
>rural England, because Muslims consider the pig an "unclean" animal) to
>the ominous, such as Britain's proposed law making it a crime to
>criticize someone else's religion essentially banning dissent against
>Islam.

>But nowhere are the results more ominous than in France. The riots there
>are described as the product of France's failure to "assimilate" Muslim
>immigrants from North Africa, and various reasons are cited for this
>failure. But the most fundamental reason is that Europe has long ago lost
>any real interest in assimilating its immigrants. Indeed, it has rejected
>the very idea of assimilation. To induct others into European culture
>why, that kind of cultural self-assertion would be just like the Nazis.
>Instead, Europe has gone out of its way to "accommodate" other cultures
>by encouraging immigrants to live for decades sealed off in their own
>enclaves.

>What touched off the recent riots, for example, was not a heavy-handed
>presence of the police and French authorities in Muslim neighborhoods. It
>was the fact that the police had, until recently, treated these areas as
>"no-go zones," left to be run by the Muslims themselves. It was the
>re-assertion of some degree of French control after years of
>Multiculturalist tolerance that set off the riots.

>It is not just that French Muslims need to assimilate into French
>culture. It is that there has to be a self-confident culture for them to
>assimilate to. One cannot assimilate with self-annihilation.

>In a nation like America, the acceptance of Multiculturalism leads to a
>kind of slow rot, as the distinctive ideas at the root our culture
>the Enlightenment ideals of our Founding Fathers slowly die from
>neglect. But such a nation can ride on its previous cultural momentum for
>generations, taking many years to collapses from within and that
>gives us a long time to fight Multiculturalism before it is too late. A
>nation like France, which finds itself host to a large minority of
>religiously strident Muslim immigrants thoroughly untouched by
>Enlightenment intellectual and political traditions, will not be allowed
>the luxury of a death by slow rot. It must act much more quickly to save
>itself.

>It is in the streets of the Parisian suburbs that one can now see the
>ultimate effects of Multiculturalism and sense a premonition of the
>dark and murderous future that lays ahead for Europe.

>http://jewishworldreview.com/1105/tracinski110905.php3

leto...@nospam.net

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In <u1d5n1ti7turktral...@4ax.com>, on 11/10/2005
at 02:47 AM, Omega <omeg...@gmail.com> said:

>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:26:13 GMT, leto...@nospam.net wrote:


>|>|>>Army Invades NASCAR Nation to Drive Recruitment
>|>|>> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1293441&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
>|>|>>
>|>|>>ATLANTA, Nov. 8, 2005 - There is fresh evidence today
>|>|>>of the challenges the Army faces in signing up recruits.
>|>|>>
>|>|>>The Army will meet its recruiting goals for last month -
>|>|>>but only after it tripled the number of recruits who
>|>|>>scored at the bottom of its aptitude tests.
>|>|>
>|>|>
>|>|> Yeah, I saw that on the news last night. Looks like Uncle Scam is trolling
>|>|> the trailer parks as well as the hoods and barrios for fresh cannon fodder
>|>|>
>|>|
>|>|The NASCAR Nation votes against its economic interest. It's not
>|>|surprising, they put themselves on the line for Bush's 'base'. The
>|>|recruiters would not have much success with the $2000 a plate dinner
>|>|crowd or their children.
>|
>|>So what you are saying is that one votes away freedom in favor of money?
>|
>|Well gee asshole -->You don't see kids of the rich lining up to go find
>|roadside bombs, do you now.
>|
>|PS: You ought to get your ass to iraqnam and find one for bush -- instead
>|of being a wannabee mouthing off here.

>No the children of the rich are generally messed up. Look at Al Gore's


>son. Or most of the Kennedy kids. Or Paris Hilton.

Funny you left out G.W. bush, and all the right wing chicken hawks who
started this war.

>And with people like you here in the US, the troops might just say screw
>and let the Muslims just take over the US.

You're an idiot buddy. But hey, you need to get your wannabee ass into
the combat and find roadside bombs for us. It will make us safer and
clean the gene pool at the same time. Its a real win-win. Take campbell
with you and make us four time winners.

La N

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"Omega" <omeg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:u1d5n1ti7turktral...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:26:13 GMT, leto...@nospam.net wrote:
>
>
> |>|>>Army Invades NASCAR Nation to Drive Recruitment
> |>|>> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1293441&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
> |>|>>
> |>|>>ATLANTA, Nov. 8, 2005 - There is fresh evidence today
> |>|>>of the challenges the Army faces in signing up recruits.
> |>|>>
> |>|>>The Army will meet its recruiting goals for last month -
> |>|>>but only after it tripled the number of recruits who
> |>|>>scored at the bottom of its aptitude tests.
> |>|>
> |>|>
> |>|> Yeah, I saw that on the news last night. Looks like Uncle Scam is
> trolling
> |>|> the trailer parks as well as the hoods and barrios for fresh cannon
> fodder
> |>|>
> |>|
> |>|The NASCAR Nation votes against its economic interest. It's not
> |>|surprising, they put themselves on the line for Bush's 'base'. The
> |>|recruiters would not have much success with the $2000 a plate dinner
> |>|crowd or their children.
> |
> |>So what you are saying is that one votes away freedom in favor of money?
> |
> |Well gee asshole -->You don't see kids of the rich lining up to go find
> |roadside bombs, do you now.
> |
> |PS: You ought to get your ass to iraqnam and find one for bush --
> instead
> |of being a wannabee mouthing off here.
>
> No the children of the rich are generally messed up. Look at Al Gore's
> son. Or
> most of the Kennedy kids. Or Paris Hilton.
>


Barb and Jenna Bush ... coff coff ....

- nilita


gramps

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Nov 9, 2005, 5:58:26 PM11/9/05
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"DGVREIMAN" <DGVR...@COMCAST.NET> wrote in message
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Let 'em keep coming. If they want to be 'cannon fodder on call' -- that
civilian employers will be leery of hiring lest they be suddenly forced back
into uniform for months or years -- for the rest of their lives, subject to
'backdoor drafts', well, that's up to them. Any time Uncle Scam wants
another Civil War, all Washington has to do is reinstate conscription

JC Miller

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Nov 10, 2005, 2:19:38 AM11/10/05
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:26:13 GMT, leto...@nospam.net wrote:

Actually, you'd be surprised. I live in Foley, about 6-8 miles north of
Orange Beach, Alabama. We've got goddamn movie actors in the 'Ono Island'
community there, and some of their kids have gone off to war. @_o

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Nov 10, 2005, 6:18:27 AM11/10/05
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In <jpv5n15in7gqtc2kb...@4ax.com>, on 11/10/2005
at 08:07 AM, Omega <omeg...@gmail.com> said:

>What needs to be cited? It is pure logic. Almost any form of factory
>work can be automated. And is being done as we speak. China is losing
>jobs, even with those jobs going from here to them, due to automation.
>There is very little of mass production that can not be done better by
>machines than humans.

I didn't think you could document your claim. Its shallow to the poiiunt
of being nonsense. It also show us, you really don't know what is going on
in the nation.

leto...@nospam.net

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Nov 10, 2005, 6:42:33 AM11/10/05
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In <luv5n1548hmhlts5q...@4ax.com>, on 11/10/2005
at 08:08 AM, Omega <omeg...@gmail.com> said:

>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:05:42 GMT, leto...@nospam.net wrote:

>|>|
>|>|The whole military is an utter failure you idiot. -->For 50 years they
>|>|have been planning for two major wars at the same time. Now they have two
>|>|little wars at the same time and can't win either one.
>|>|
>|>|I think its because there are too many idiot like you in the service. Now
>|>|the army is adding more...
>|
>|>Kind of hard to fight two wars when most of the manpower was cut out of
>|>the system in the 1990s.
>|
>|So you must be pretty angry with the republican congress back then who did
>|it, eh!

>Most of the cuts were done before 1994. Remember all the peace dividend
>bullshit?

Really. You mean with the collapse of the last major enemy, we just
should have kept on spending more money on arms then the rest of the world
combined -- like bush is doing now! Over 50 cents of every single tax
dollar goes to support war.

Its not sustainable and will end with the US in an economic collapse, just
like the old USSR had.

Yaketyak

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Nov 10, 2005, 5:51:10 PM11/10/05
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every time you repost this trash you get your ass handed to you.. post some
proof other than a leftist source or cut the crap..

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:30:34 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
wrote:

->Doug the fact is that the all-volunteer Army had raised the bar. Now
->it has been lowered, and incentives have been upped, and still there
->are not enough recruits.


How many terrorist's did you help today
by supporting them in attacking your own ?

If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
given him the slightest hint he has support,
made him think we have no nerve or anything
else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
committed treason by its very definition.

Like it or not...
Yaketyak

Tom Lacombe

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Nov 10, 2005, 8:54:21 PM11/10/05
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I hope you don't think military.com is a leftist source.
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,77951,00.html?ESRC=eb.nl
If that doesn't give you a clue try the recent post by tuttle's
almanac. I know you are trying to show a stiff upper lip like the
recruiting chiefs, but look at all the stuff they are offering these
kids, and they still can't get the numbers up. 15 month enlistments,
help getting GED's, etc.
http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html

brickbat

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Nov 10, 2005, 10:22:59 PM11/10/05
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In article <C9mdnec69uKnLO_e...@comcast.com>,
dapra <dap...@comcast.net> wrote:

A small price to pay for illegalizing abortions and eliminating science
in our schools, wouldn't you say?

Message has been deleted

dapra

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Nov 11, 2005, 11:00:57 AM11/11/05
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Omega wrote:

> On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:12:05 -0500, dapra <dap...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> |> |> |>>Army Invades NASCAR Nation to Drive Recruitment
> |> |> |>> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1293441&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
> |> |> |>>
> |> |> |>>ATLANTA, Nov. 8, 2005 - There is fresh evidence today
> |> |> |>>of the challenges the Army faces in signing up recruits.
> |> |> |>>
> |> |> |>>The Army will meet its recruiting goals for last month -
> |> |> |>>but only after it tripled the number of recruits who
> |> |> |>>scored at the bottom of its aptitude tests.
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |> Yeah, I saw that on the news last night. Looks like Uncle Scam is trolling
> |> |> |> the trailer parks as well as the hoods and barrios for fresh cannon fodder
> |> |> |>
> |> |> |
> |> |> |The NASCAR Nation votes against its economic interest. It's not
> |> |> |surprising, they put themselves on the line for Bush's 'base'. The
> |> |> |recruiters would not have much success with the $2000 a plate dinner
> |> |> |crowd or their children.
> |> |>
> |> |> So what you are saying is that one votes away freedom in favor of money?
> |> |
> |> |First they vote for Bush to ship their jobs to Mexico and China. Then
> |> |they vote for Bush, and send their sons to fight and die for Exxon's and
> |> |Huliburton's record profits. At the same time their pensions are taken
> |> |away, their salaries are cut in half, if they still have a job.
> |>
> |> Most of the jobs going out of the country I would not want to work at. These
> |> are jobs that need to be automated. If automated then no need for workers
> |> anyway.
> |
> |You may not want these jobs. But the NASCAR crowd is not made of
> |investment bankers or the tycoons of the industry.
>
> However they are not stupid either. That is your bigotry showing. they are
> just not as educated, sometimes (we do have a lot of NASCAR types with higher
> education, they just like the common touch).

Voting against your financial interest is stupid. They are fighting with
the left about insignificant social issues, in the meant time the
corporate oligarchy picks their pocket.

>
> Look, we no longer need everyone to be a farmer. Much of that work is highly
> automated, to the point that one man now does the work of 20 men back in 1920s.
> The same with factory work. Toyota has most of its factories heavily automated,
> even those here in the US.
>
> What are people going to do? Well we still lack huge numbers of skilled
> workers. Plumbers are in short supply, for example. And in many cases better
> paid than college grads. And I do expect that we will see more and more small,
> family businesses which deal in areas that the big companies just are too big to
> service.


>
>
> |>
> |> |>
> |> |> That is why union members are not voting their pocket books but rather their
> |> |> guns...
> |> |
> |> |Soon they will have only their guns. But it won't match the power of
> |> |Poindexters police state.
> |>
> |> The concept is that everyone serves thus there is no way that there can be a
> |> police state.
> |
> |What a naivety! What do you think? How long does it take, for a
> |government that murders, tortures foreigners, to do the same to their
> |'left' or 'right' wingers, if they disagree, resist THE STATE.
>

> except that we are not torturing foreigners. What we have are people who
> suggest that we are for their own political gain. Fear mongering by your side
> mostly.
>

Fear mongering from the left? Since 911 the Bush administration did
nothing but scare the people. The latest is the avian flu.

> |> However what we are seeing in Europe is a new form of police
> |> state, one done by the minority. In this case, Muslims.
> |>
> |
> |Kids burning cars is NOT a police state.
>

> Neither was "crystal night"

Crystal night was an organized attack on a specific minority. I can't
believe, you can't make a distinction between the two. But make your
points, if you think the two events are similar.

Yaketyak

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Nov 11, 2005, 6:48:02 PM11/11/05
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Military.com.... not likely..

try AP..

Army's Recruiting Lowest in Years
Associated Press | September 30, 2005

on a level with the NYTimes or worse.. still cant get your sources
straight.. even in tyour own head.


why not try the truth for a change.. education is a good thing, especially
in your case.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

DoD Announces Recruiting and Retention Numbers for October
In-Depth Coverage

The Department of Defense announced today its recruiting and retention
statistics by the active and reserve components for the month of October.

? Active duty recruiting. All services exceeded their recruiting
goals in October.

Service Accessions Goal Percent
Army 4,925
4,700
105%

Navy 2,268
2,244
101%

Marine Corps 2,760
2,700
102%

Air Force 2,180
2,161
101%

? Active duty retention. All services exceeded retention goals for
the month of October.

? Reserve forces recruiting. Four of the six reserve components
met or exceeded their recruiting goals for October.

Service Accessions Goal Percent
Army National Guard 4,050
3,970
102%

Army Reserve 2,198
2,133
103%

Navy Reserve 724
811
89%

Marine Corps Reserve 692
688
101%

Air National Guard 588
1,010
58%

Air Force Reserve 700
693
101%

? Reserve forces retention. For October, Army National Guard
retention was 98 percent of the cumulative goal of 2,456, and Air National
Guard retention was 110 percent of its cumulative goal of 986. Losses in all
reserve components for September, which was the end of Fiscal 2005, were
within acceptable limits. Indications are that trend has continued into
October.

Detailed information on specific recruiting data can be obtained
by contacting the individual military recruiting commands at (502) 626-0164
for Army, (210) 565-4678 for Air Force, (703) 784-9454 for Marine Corps and
(901) 874-9049 for Navy. The reserve components can be reached at the
following numbers: National Guard Bureau (703) 607-2586; Army Reserve (404)
464-8490; Air Force Reserve (703) 697-1761; Navy Reserve (985) 874-5669; and
Marine Corps Reserve (504) 678-6535.

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2005/nr20051110-5089.html


What kind of whining are you going to do now ?

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:54:21 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
wrote:

->On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:51:10 -0500, Yaketyak
-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->
->>
->>every time you repost this trash you get your ass handed to you.. post
some
->>proof other than a leftist source or cut the crap..
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:30:34 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
->>wrote:
->>
->>->Doug the fact is that the all-volunteer Army had raised the bar. Now
->>->it has been lowered, and incentives have been upped, and still there
->>->are not enough recruits.
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>
->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>
->>Like it or not...
->> Yaketyak
->I hope you don't think military.com is a leftist source.
->http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,77951,00.html?ESRC=eb.nl
->If that doesn't give you a clue try the recent post by tuttle's
->almanac. I know you are trying to show a stiff upper lip like the
->recruiting chiefs, but look at all the stuff they are offering these
->kids, and they still can't get the numbers up. 15 month enlistments,
->help getting GED's, etc.
-

lon...@sbcglobal.net

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Nov 11, 2005, 8:29:17 PM11/11/05
to
What is so interesting in this AParticle is the reasons given for the 4
month slump in recruiting - a strong economy and negative press about
the war.

Strong economy? Hell, I thought we were headed into a recession
because of Katrina, oil prices and the war in Iraq. Musta missed those
positive headline stories about our strong economy.

Negative Press about the War? Well, duh? Name me a major mainstream
newspaper that doesn't have a negative story about Iraq on its front
page at least 5 days a week - and twice on Sunday. One that doesn't
give a daily "body count" and add photos of amputees to their constant
drum roll of "doom and gloom".

But what is even more interesting is despite the best (or worse)
efforts of the media to turn Iraq into another Vietnam, re-enlistments
are up. Men and women who have been to Iraq are re-enlisting and going
back for 2nd and 3rd tours. The media may be able to turn a sizable
number of Americans against the war with their "shock & scare" photos
and their negative reporting, but those who are re-enlisting have seen
the other side of the story - the one the "get out of Iraq" media isn't
telling.

Donna

Tom Lacombe

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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:48:02 -0500, Yaketyak
<Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:

Yaketyak, This story was run by military.com which is not a liberal
publication. Do you think otherwise?

http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html

Yaketyak

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Nov 12, 2005, 5:12:20 AM11/12/05
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they learned their lessons well.. that old "oft repeated lie" works on the
subject everytime unless reality gets to slap him every once in a while..
safe aty home, unreported truth, no new attacks... the worst thing the goat
pokers could do right now tocompletely trash 5 years of leftist anti
American propaganda efforts would be to attack the homeland again.. the
demobots would go nnuts because all their efforts at disinformation and lies
would have been wasted..
the best that could happen is they hit the next progressive caucus meeting
or new democrat fund raiser and wipe them out, then 90% of the enemy support
in this country would stop, we'd lose the majority of the leftist insurgency
and America would be able to unite again.. a win win situation..

On 11 Nov 2005 17:29:17 -0800, lon...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

->What is so interesting in this AParticle is the reasons given for the 4
->month slump in recruiting - a strong economy and negative press about
->the war.
->
->Strong economy? Hell, I thought we were headed into a recession
->because of Katrina, oil prices and the war in Iraq. Musta missed those
->positive headline stories about our strong economy.
->
->Negative Press about the War? Well, duh? Name me a major mainstream
->newspaper that doesn't have a negative story about Iraq on its front
->page at least 5 days a week - and twice on Sunday. One that doesn't
->give a daily "body count" and add photos of amputees to their constant
->drum roll of "doom and gloom".
->
->But what is even more interesting is despite the best (or worse)
->efforts of the media to turn Iraq into another Vietnam, re-enlistments
->are up. Men and women who have been to Iraq are re-enlisting and going
->back for 2nd and 3rd tours. The media may be able to turn a sizable
->number of Americans against the war with their "shock & scare" photos
->and their negative reporting, but those who are re-enlisting have seen
->the other side of the story - the one the "get out of Iraq" media isn't
->telling.
->
->Donna


->
->
->
->
->
->

->
->


->Tom Lacombe wrote:
->> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:51:10 -0500, Yaketyak
->> <Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>
->> >

->> >every time you repost this trash you get your ass handed to you.. post
some


->> >proof other than a leftist source or cut the crap..
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> >

->> >On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:30:34 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
->> >wrote:
->> >
->> >->Doug the fact is that the all-volunteer Army had raised the bar. Now
->> >->it has been lowered, and incentives have been upped, and still there
->> >->are not enough recruits.
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> >
->> >How many terrorist's did you help today
->> >by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->> >
->> >If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->> >given him the slightest hint he has support,
->> >made him think we have no nerve or anything


->> >else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->> >to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->> >committed treason by its very definition.
->> >
->> >Like it or not...
->> > Yaketyak

->> I hope you don't think military.com is a leftist source.
->> http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,77951,00.html?ESRC=eb.nl
->> If that doesn't give you a clue try the recent post by tuttle's
->> almanac. I know you are trying to show a stiff upper lip like the
->> recruiting chiefs, but look at all the stuff they are offering these
->> kids, and they still can't get the numbers up. 15 month enlistments,
->> help getting GED's, etc.
->> http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html


There are two kinds of Americans..

Those who are and those who claim to be

We currently have too many of the latter.

leto...@nospam.net

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Nov 12, 2005, 5:33:49 AM11/12/05
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Deal with reality -- this war is now iraqnam, and we are losing.

In <1131758957....@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, on 11/11/2005

Yaketyak

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Nov 12, 2005, 5:38:19 AM11/12/05
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There you go... misrepresenting facts again.. cant you read..

Associated Press wrote it.. AP AP AP !!!!!! as in leftist media.. get it
now ????


all military.com did was put it on their website.. just for your own
information military.com is owned by Military Advantage.com which is owned
by Monster.com which is owned by MonsterWorldwide which is based in
massatwoshits.


On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:13:20 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
wrote:

->On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:48:02 -0500, Yaketyak
-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->
->Yaketyak, This story was run by military.com which is not a liberal
->publication. Do you think otherwise?
->>Military.com.... not likely..
->>
->> try AP..
->>
->>Army's Recruiting Lowest in Years
->>Associated Press | September 30, 2005
->>
->>
->>on a level with the NYTimes or worse.. still cant get your sources
->>straight.. even in tyour own head.
->>
->>
->>why not try the truth for a change.. education is a good thing,
especially
->>in your case.
->>
->>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
->>
->>DoD Announces Recruiting and Retention Numbers for October
->>In-Depth Coverage
->>
->>
->>
->>
->> The Department of Defense announced today its recruiting and retention
->>statistics by the active and reserve components for the month of October.
->>
->>
->>
->>? Active duty recruiting. All services exceeded their recruiting
->>goals in October.
->>
->>
->>
->>Service Accessions Goal Percent
->>Army 4,925
->> 4,700
->> 105%
->>
->>Navy 2,268
->> 2,244
->> 101%
->>
->>Marine Corps 2,760
->> 2,700
->> 102%
->>
->>Air Force 2,180
->> 2,161
->> 101%
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>? Active duty retention. All services exceeded retention goals
for
->>the month of October.
->>
->>? Reserve forces recruiting. Four of the six reserve components
->>met or exceeded their recruiting goals for October.
->>
->>
->>
->>Service Accessions Goal Percent
->>Army National Guard 4,050
->> 3,970
->> 102%
->>
->>Army Reserve 2,198
->> 2,133
->> 103%
->>
->>Navy Reserve 724
->> 811
->> 89%
->>
->>Marine Corps Reserve 692
->> 688
->> 101%
->>
->>Air National Guard 588
->> 1,010
->> 58%
->>
->>Air Force Reserve 700
->> 693
->> 101%
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>? Reserve forces retention. For October, Army National Guard
->>retention was 98 percent of the cumulative goal of 2,456, and Air
National
->>Guard retention was 110 percent of its cumulative goal of 986. Losses in
all
->>reserve components for September, which was the end of Fiscal 2005, were
->>within acceptable limits. Indications are that trend has continued into
->>October.
->>
->>
->>
->> Detailed information on specific recruiting data can be
obtained
->>by contacting the individual military recruiting commands at (502)
626-0164
->>for Army, (210) 565-4678 for Air Force, (703) 784-9454 for Marine Corps
and
->>(901) 874-9049 for Navy. The reserve components can be reached at the
->>following numbers: National Guard Bureau (703) 607-2586; Army Reserve
(404)
->>464-8490; Air Force Reserve (703) 697-1761; Navy Reserve (985) 874-5669;
and
->>Marine Corps Reserve (504) 678-6535.
->>
->>
->>
->>http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2005/nr20051110-5089.html
->>
->>
->>What kind of whining are you going to do now ?


->>
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>

->>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:54:21 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
->>wrote:
->>
->>->On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:51:10 -0500, Yaketyak


->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->

->>->>


->>->>every time you repost this trash you get your ass handed to you.. post

->>some
->>->>proof other than a leftist source or cut the crap..


->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:30:34 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>

->>->>wrote:


->>->>
->>->>->Doug the fact is that the all-volunteer Army had raised the bar. Now

->>->>->it has been lowered, and incentives have been upped, and still there
->>->>->are not enough recruits.
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>


->>->>
->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today

->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?


->>->>
->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,

->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>committed treason by its very definition.


->>->>
->>->>Like it or not...

->>->> Yaketyak
->>->I hope you don't think military.com is a leftist source.
->>->http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,77951,00.html?ESRC=eb.nl
->>->If that doesn't give you a clue try the recent post by tuttle's
->>->almanac. I know you are trying to show a stiff upper lip like the
->>->recruiting chiefs, but look at all the stuff they are offering these
->>->kids, and they still can't get the numbers up. 15 month enlistments,
->>->help getting GED's, etc.
->>-
->>
->>
->>
->>


->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>
->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>
->>Like it or not...
->> Yaketyak
->

->http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html

leto...@nospam.net

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Nov 12, 2005, 6:41:42 AM11/12/05
to

yaketyak when are you going to put your ass where your mouth is and get
into the iraqnam fight? -->Show your honor by finding bush a roadside
bomb for Christmas. It will shorten the war you want and show us you're a
just a wannabee with no balls.


In <djfbn1l4nta82dr57...@4ax.com>, on 11/12/2005

FD

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Nov 12, 2005, 9:13:00 AM11/12/05
to
In article <OdadndsBRr-...@comcast.com>,
dapra <dap...@comcast.net> wrote:

Your analogy is too kind. It's getting to be more like armed robbery.

William Boyd

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Nov 12, 2005, 10:29:56 AM11/12/05
to
Tuttle's Almanac wrote:
> Army Invades NASCAR Nation to Drive Recruitment
> http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1293441&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
>
> ATLANTA, Nov. 8, 2005 — There is fresh evidence today
> of the challenges the Army faces in signing up recruits.
>
> The Army will meet its recruiting goals for last month -
> but only after it tripled the number of recruits who
> scored at the bottom of its aptitude tests.
> ________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
I have lurked and consider this one is worth an effort to help the
correct side,ever so small it is. So many folks just cant bring
their selves to thinking with out the blinkers. First off the method
of recruiting has not changed in hundreds of years. Those that are
on the volunteer list having varying degrees of knowledge are
evaluated and classified in ascending order just like they do in the
civilian employment offices. Believe it or not there are some that
are over qualified and would not be selected for the positions being
filled.
There is no such thing as the bottom of the barrel just a lesser
degree of expertise in the evaluation by the aptitude battery of
tests. A job that would satisfy one person could be boring for
another individual. Job placement based on individual abilities has
always been the goal of military recruitment and civilian employment
agencies.

--
Posted by HOPPIE, 30 Years Active Duty ,11 Campaigns Vietnam, Life
Member; Am.Lgn,DAV,VFW,AFSA

William Boyd

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Nov 12, 2005, 10:55:59 AM11/12/05
to
lon...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> What is so interesting in this AParticle is the reasons given for the 4
> month slump in recruiting - a strong economy and negative press about
> the war.
>
> Strong economy? Hell, I thought we were headed into a recession
> because of Katrina, oil prices and the war in Iraq. Musta missed those
> positive headline stories about our strong economy.

Unfortunately disasters like Catrina, and war tend to help the
economy, how ever grim that sounds, it is true. Spending the dollar
makes an active tax base and increases money rotation.

>
> Negative Press about the War? Well, duh? Name me a major mainstream
> newspaper that doesn't have a negative story about Iraq on its front
> page at least 5 days a week - and twice on Sunday. One that doesn't
> give a daily "body count" and add photos of amputees to their constant
> drum roll of "doom and gloom".

What sells is what the press idiots will print, that is the negative
side, unusual occurance or something that is out of the ordinary.
But they give the appearance of that is the only thing that is going
on. There are methods they could use that would not give the
appearance that only bad things are happening, but it won't sell.

>
> But what is even more interesting is despite the best (or worse)
> efforts of the media to turn Iraq into another Vietnam, re-enlistments
> are up. Men and women who have been to Iraq are re-enlisting and going
> back for 2nd and 3rd tours. The media may be able to turn a sizable
> number of Americans against the war with their "shock & scare" photos
> and their negative reporting, but those who are re-enlisting have seen
> the other side of the story - the one the "get out of Iraq" media isn't
> telling.

And this is the real story of what is happening. Thanks for
recognizing it.

>
> Donna

Tom Lacombe

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Nov 12, 2005, 9:47:27 PM11/12/05
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Yaketyak, Military.com is not a liberal type of organization. They
are a pro-military publication. They published the AP report because
they thought it had some merit. Because an organization is based in
Mass. does not mean it is liberal.
http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html

Yaketyak

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Nov 13, 2005, 5:40:53 AM11/13/05
to

...or maybe, just maybe, it fit the editrors agenda.. you obviously have no
concept of how things happen in the media.. remember the NYTimes..
maybe thats why your such a good useful idiot.

either way the fact that it was a bold faced lie either totally escapes your
ability to reason or you refuse to accept truth over disinformation because
it doesnt fit your slanted preconceived agenda..

on another note... Military.com is a sideshow for the real purpose of its
existence.. which is to help vets obtain work.. its called a single purpose
job search, it is owned by Monster Worldwide, their military.com website is
just an advertising attraction to draw vets.. they make money finding
people jobs.. maybe even a few for Blackwater or Halliburton... read below.

what do you expect them to post marxist and muslim crap.

Get it now ??

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Company Profile

Founded in 1967, Monster Worldwide, Inc. is the parent company of Monster?,
the leading global online careers and recruitment resource property. The
company also owns TMP Worldwide, one of the world's largest Recruitment
Advertising agency networks. Headquartered in New York with approximately
4,500 employees in 26 countries, Monster Worldwide (NASDAQ: MNST) is a
member of the S&P 500 Index.


******************************************************************************************************
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:47:27 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
wrote:

->On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:38:19 -0500, Yaketyak
-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->
->>There you go... misrepresenting facts again.. cant you read..
->>
->> Associated Press wrote it.. AP AP AP !!!!!! as in leftist media.. get it
->>now ????
->>
->>
->>all military.com did was put it on their website.. just for your own
->>information military.com is owned by Military Advantage.com which is
owned
->>by Monster.com which is owned by MonsterWorldwide which is based in
->>massatwoshits.
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:13:20 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
->>wrote:
->>
->>->On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:48:02 -0500, Yaketyak


->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->

->>->Yaketyak, This story was run by military.com which is not a liberal

->>->publication. Do you think otherwise?
->>->>Military.com.... not likely..


->>->>
->>->> try AP..
->>->>
->>->>Army's Recruiting Lowest in Years

->>->>Associated Press | September 30, 2005
->>->>
->>->>


->>->>on a level with the NYTimes or worse.. still cant get your sources

->>->>straight.. even in tyour own head.
->>->>
->>->>


->>->>why not try the truth for a change.. education is a good thing,

->>especially
->>->>in your case.


->>->>
->>->>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
->>->>
->>->>DoD Announces Recruiting and Retention Numbers for October

->>->>In-Depth Coverage
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>

->>->>
->>->> The Department of Defense announced today its recruiting and
retention

->>->>statistics by the active and reserve components for the month of


October.
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>? Active duty recruiting. All services exceeded their
recruiting

->>->>goals in October.

->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>Service Accessions Goal Percent

->>->>Army 4,925
->>->> 4,700
->>->> 105%
->>->>
->>->>Navy 2,268
->>->> 2,244
->>->> 101%
->>->>
->>->>Marine Corps 2,760
->>->> 2,700
->>->> 102%
->>->>

->>->>Air Force 2,180

->>->> 2,161
->>->> 101%
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>

->>->>
->>->>? Active duty retention. All services exceeded retention
goals

->>for
->>->>the month of October.

->>->>
->>->>? Reserve forces recruiting. Four of the six reserve
components

->>->>met or exceeded their recruiting goals for October.
->>->>
->>->>

->>->>
->>->>Service Accessions Goal Percent

->>->>Army National Guard 4,050
->>->> 3,970
->>->> 102%
->>->>

->>->>Army Reserve 2,198

->>->> 2,133
->>->> 103%
->>->>

->>->>Navy Reserve 724

->>->> 811
->>->> 89%
->>->>

->>->>Marine Corps Reserve 692

->>->> 688
->>->> 101%
->>->>

->>->>Air National Guard 588

->>->> 1,010
->>->> 58%
->>->>

->>->>Air Force Reserve 700

->>->> 693
->>->> 101%
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>

->>->>
->>->>? Reserve forces retention. For October, Army National Guard

->>->>retention was 98 percent of the cumulative goal of 2,456, and Air
->>National
->>->>Guard retention was 110 percent of its cumulative goal of 986. Losses
in
->>all
->>->>reserve components for September, which was the end of Fiscal 2005,
were
->>->>within acceptable limits. Indications are that trend has continued
into
->>->>October.


->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->> Detailed information on specific recruiting data can be

->>obtained
->>->>by contacting the individual military recruiting commands at (502)
->>626-0164
->>->>for Army, (210) 565-4678 for Air Force, (703) 784-9454 for Marine
Corps
->>and
->>->>(901) 874-9049 for Navy. The reserve components can be reached at the
->>->>following numbers: National Guard Bureau (703) 607-2586; Army Reserve
->>(404)
->>->>464-8490; Air Force Reserve (703) 697-1761; Navy Reserve (985)
874-5669;
->>and
->>->>Marine Corps Reserve (504) 678-6535.

->>->>


->>->>What kind of whining are you going to do now ?
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:54:21 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>

->>->>wrote:
->>->>

->>->>->On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:51:10 -0500, Yaketyak

->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->>->
->>->>->>
->>->>->>every time you repost this trash you get your ass handed to you..
post

->>->>some
->>->>->>proof other than a leftist source or cut the crap..


->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:30:34 -0500, Tom Lacombe
<tlac...@shentel.net>

->>->>->>wrote:


->>->>->>
->>->>->>->Doug the fact is that the all-volunteer Army had raised the bar.
Now

->>->>->>->it has been lowered, and incentives have been upped, and still
there
->>->>->>->are not enough recruits.

->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today

->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?


->>->>->>
->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,

->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.


->>->>->>
->>->>->>Like it or not...

->>->>->> Yaketyak
->>->>->I hope you don't think military.com is a leftist source.
->>->>->http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,77951,00.html?ESRC=eb.nl
->>->>->If that doesn't give you a clue try the recent post by tuttle's
->>->>->almanac. I know you are trying to show a stiff upper lip like the
->>->>->recruiting chiefs, but look at all the stuff they are offering these
->>->>->kids, and they still can't get the numbers up. 15 month
enlistments,
->>->>->help getting GED's, etc.


->>->>-
->>->>
->>->>

->>->>
->>->>
->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>->>
->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>->>
->>->>Like it or not...
->>->> Yaketyak
->>->

->>


->>
->>
->>
->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>
->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>
->>Like it or not...
->> Yaketyak

->Yaketyak, Military.com is not a liberal type of organization. They
->are a pro-military publication. They published the AP report because
->they thought it had some merit. Because an organization is based in
->Mass. does not mean it is liberal.

leto...@nospam.net

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Nov 13, 2005, 7:51:40 AM11/13/05
to

yakyak get your ass to iraqnam and fight for bush. How come you brave
right wingers who want war won't fight?


In <9o4en1dvc4jr6rbtf...@4ax.com>, on 11/13/2005
at 05:40 AM, Yaketyak <Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> said:

>....or maybe, just maybe, it fit the editrors agenda.. you obviously have

Red Jacket The Laughing Indian !

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Nov 13, 2005, 8:53:34 AM11/13/05
to
Can't you read ? The subject line is we need people who
are on the bottom of the barrel. That's YOU !
Sandy should scrape your mess up and ship it to Iraq.
Look for some bombs sicko.

<leto...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:wFGdf.6254$GB1.1251@trndny06...

Tom Lacombe

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Nov 13, 2005, 10:08:53 AM11/13/05
to

Yaketyak, Thank you for documenting that Military.com is not a liberal
organization. Sure they are out to make a buck, and vets are the
market they have targeted. All anybody has to do is visit the site and
see for themselves. http://www.military.com/
http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html

Yaketyak

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Nov 13, 2005, 5:28:32 PM11/13/05
to

like ip2shit says... ya fuckin' moron.

On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:08:53 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
wrote:

->On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:40:53 -0500, Yaketyak


-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->
->>
->>

->>...or maybe, just maybe, it fit the editrors agenda.. you obviously have
no
->>concept of how things happen in the media.. remember the NYTimes..
->>maybe thats why your such a good useful idiot.
->>
->>either way the fact that it was a bold faced lie either totally escapes
your
->>ability to reason or you refuse to accept truth over disinformation
because
->>it doesnt fit your slanted preconceived agenda..
->>
->>on another note... Military.com is a sideshow for the real purpose of its
->>existence.. which is to help vets obtain work.. its called a single
purpose
->>job search, it is owned by Monster Worldwide, their military.com website
is
->>just an advertising attraction to draw vets.. they make money finding
->>people jobs.. maybe even a few for Blackwater or Halliburton... read
below.
->>
->>what do you expect them to post marxist and muslim crap.
->>
->>Get it now ??
->>
->>*******************************************************************************************************
->>Military.com
->>
->>Registrant:
->>Military Advantage Inc.
->>544 Pacific Ave - Suite 300
->>San Francisco, CA 94133-4608
->>US
->>
->>Domain Name: MILITARY.COM
->>
->>Administrative Contact:
->>Monster Worldwide, Inc. hostmast...@tmpw.net
->>5 Clock Tower Place, Suite 500
->>Maynard, MA 01754
->>US
->>978 461 8000 fax: 978 461 8100
->>
->>Technical Contact:
->>Monster Worldwide, Inc. hostm...@tmpw.net
->>5 Clock Tower Place, Suite 500
->>Maynard, MA 01754
->>US
->>978 461 8000 fax: 978 461 8100
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->>
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->>NS1.MILITARY.COM 206.14.215.74
->>NS2.MILITARY.COM 64.147.183.5
->>
->>The Actual Owner...
->>
->>Military Advantage Inc.
->>
->>Partners with Monster.com
->>
->>http://www.govsolutions.monster.com/news_pressRelease.aspx?prID=50
->>
->>http://www.iac.com/index/news/press_release/press_release_detail.htm?id=6512
->>
->>Company Profile
->>
->>Founded in 1967, Monster Worldwide, Inc. is the parent company of
Monster?,
->>the leading global online careers and recruitment resource property. The
->>company also owns TMP Worldwide, one of the world's largest Recruitment
->>Advertising agency networks. Headquartered in New York with approximately
->>4,500 employees in 26 countries, Monster Worldwide (NASDAQ: MNST) is a
->>member of the S&P 500 Index.
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>******************************************************************************************************
->>On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:47:27 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
->>wrote:
->>
->>->On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:38:19 -0500, Yaketyak


->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->

->>->>There you go... misrepresenting facts again.. cant you read..
->>->>
->>->> Associated Press wrote it.. AP AP AP !!!!!! as in leftist media.. get
it

->>->>now ????
->>->>
->>->>


->>->>all military.com did was put it on their website.. just for your own

->>->>information military.com is owned by Military Advantage.com which is
->>owned
->>->>by Monster.com which is owned by MonsterWorldwide which is based in
->>->>massatwoshits.
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>


->>->>
->>->>On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:13:20 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>

->>->>wrote:
->>->>

->>->>->On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:48:02 -0500, Yaketyak

->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->>->

->>->>->Yaketyak, This story was run by military.com which is not a liberal

->>->>->publication. Do you think otherwise?
->>->>->>Military.com.... not likely..


->>->>->>
->>->>->> try AP..
->>->>->>
->>->>->>Army's Recruiting Lowest in Years

->>->>->>Associated Press | September 30, 2005


->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>on a level with the NYTimes or worse.. still cant get your sources

->>->>->>straight.. even in tyour own head.


->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>why not try the truth for a change.. education is a good thing,

->>->>especially
->>->>->>in your case.
->>->>->>
->>->>->>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


->>->>->>
->>->>->>DoD Announces Recruiting and Retention Numbers for October

->>->>->>In-Depth Coverage

->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->> The Department of Defense announced today its recruiting and

->>retention
->>->>->>statistics by the active and reserve components for the month of


->>October.
->>->>->>
->>->>->>

->>->>->>
->>->>->>? Active duty recruiting. All services exceeded their

->>recruiting
->>->>->>goals in October.

->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>Service Accessions Goal Percent

->>->>->>Army 4,925
->>->>->> 4,700
->>->>->> 105%


->>->>->>
->>->>->>Navy 2,268

->>->>->> 2,244
->>->>->> 101%
->>->>->>

->>->>->>Marine Corps 2,760

->>->>->> 2,700
->>->>->> 102%


->>->>->>
->>->>->>Air Force 2,180

->>->>->> 2,161
->>->>->> 101%


->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>? Active duty retention. All services exceeded retention

->>goals
->>->>for
->>->>->>the month of October.

->>->>->>
->>->>->>? Reserve forces recruiting. Four of the six reserve

->>components
->>->>->>met or exceeded their recruiting goals for October.

->>->>->>
->>->>->>

->>->>->>
->>->>->>Service Accessions Goal Percent

->>->>->>Army National Guard 4,050
->>->>->> 3,970
->>->>->> 102%
->>->>->>

->>->>->>Army Reserve 2,198

->>->>->> 2,133
->>->>->> 103%


->>->>->>
->>->>->>Navy Reserve 724

->>->>->> 811
->>->>->> 89%


->>->>->>
->>->>->>Marine Corps Reserve 692

->>->>->> 688
->>->>->> 101%
->>->>->>

->>->>->>Air National Guard 588

->>->>->> 1,010
->>->>->> 58%


->>->>->>
->>->>->>Air Force Reserve 700

->>->>->> 693
->>->>->> 101%


->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>

->>->>->>
->>->>->>? Reserve forces retention. For October, Army National
Guard

->>->>->>retention was 98 percent of the cumulative goal of 2,456, and Air
->>->>National
->>->>->>Guard retention was 110 percent of its cumulative goal of 986.
Losses
->>in
->>->>all
->>->>->>reserve components for September, which was the end of Fiscal 2005,
->>were
->>->>->>within acceptable limits. Indications are that trend has continued
->>into
->>->>->>October.


->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->> Detailed information on specific recruiting data can be

->>->>obtained
->>->>->>by contacting the individual military recruiting commands at (502)
->>->>626-0164
->>->>->>for Army, (210) 565-4678 for Air Force, (703) 784-9454 for Marine
->>Corps
->>->>and
->>->>->>(901) 874-9049 for Navy. The reserve components can be reached at
the
->>->>->>following numbers: National Guard Bureau (703) 607-2586; Army
Reserve
->>->>(404)
->>->>->>464-8490; Air Force Reserve (703) 697-1761; Navy Reserve (985)
->>874-5669;
->>->>and
->>->>->>Marine Corps Reserve (504) 678-6535.


->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2005/nr20051110-5089.html
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>What kind of whining are you going to do now ?
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:54:21 -0500, Tom Lacombe
<tlac...@shentel.net>

->>->>->>wrote:
->>->>->>

->>->>->>->On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:51:10 -0500, Yaketyak

->>->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->>->>->
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>every time you repost this trash you get your ass handed to
you..

->>post
->>->>->>some
->>->>->>->>proof other than a leftist source or cut the crap..


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:30:34 -0500, Tom Lacombe

->><tlac...@shentel.net>
->>->>->>->>wrote:


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->Doug the fact is that the all-volunteer Army had raised the
bar.

->>Now
->>->>->>->>->it has been lowered, and incentives have been upped, and still
->>there
->>->>->>->>->are not enough recruits.

->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today

->>->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,

->>->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>Like it or not...

->>->>->>->> Yaketyak
->>->>->>->I hope you don't think military.com is a leftist source.
->>->>->>->http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,77951,00.html?ESRC=eb.nl
->>->>->>->If that doesn't give you a clue try the recent post by tuttle's
->>->>->>->almanac. I know you are trying to show a stiff upper lip like the
->>->>->>->recruiting chiefs, but look at all the stuff they are offering
these
->>->>->>->kids, and they still can't get the numbers up. 15 month
->>enlistments,
->>->>->>->help getting GED's, etc.


->>->>->>-
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>

->>->>->>
->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>->>->>
->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>->>->>
->>->>->>Like it or not...
->>->>->> Yaketyak
->>->>->

->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>->>
->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>->>
->>->>Like it or not...
->>->> Yaketyak

->>->Yaketyak, Military.com is not a liberal type of organization. They
->>->are a pro-military publication. They published the AP report because
->>->they thought it had some merit. Because an organization is based in
->>->Mass. does not mean it is liberal.

->>
->>
->>
->>
->>
->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>
->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>
->>Like it or not...
->> Yaketyak

->Yaketyak, Thank you for documenting that Military.com is not a liberal
->organization. Sure they are out to make a buck, and vets are the
->market they have targeted. All anybody has to do is visit the site and
->see for themselves. http://www.military.com/
->http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html

Tom Lacombe

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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:28:32 -0500, Yaketyak
<Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:

>
>
>like ip2shit says... ya fuckin' moron.

In other words Yaketyak, you know that military.com is not a liberal
organization, and you are tired of trying to prove that they are.

http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html

Yaketyak

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Nov 14, 2005, 5:28:26 PM11/14/05
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actually no...
I was trying to get you to be honest and admit that AP wrote the slanted
lies you called truth and you redirected it into something I didnt say so
you could avoid the truth as usual..


On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:37:51 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
wrote:

->On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:28:32 -0500, Yaketyak


-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->
->>
->>

->>like ip2shit says... ya fuckin' moron.
->In other words Yaketyak, you know that military.com is not a liberal
->organization, and you are tired of trying to prove that they are.
->>
->>
->>
->>On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:08:53 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
->>wrote:
->>
->>->On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:40:53 -0500, Yaketyak


->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->
->>->>
->>->>

->>->>...or maybe, just maybe, it fit the editrors agenda.. you obviously
have

->>no
->>->>concept of how things happen in the media.. remember the NYTimes..
->>->>maybe thats why your such a good useful idiot.


->>->>
->>->>either way the fact that it was a bold faced lie either totally
escapes

->>your
->>->>ability to reason or you refuse to accept truth over disinformation
->>because
->>->>it doesnt fit your slanted preconceived agenda..


->>->>
->>->>on another note... Military.com is a sideshow for the real purpose of
its

->>->>existence.. which is to help vets obtain work.. its called a single
->>purpose
->>->>job search, it is owned by Monster Worldwide, their military.com
website
->>is
->>->>just an advertising attraction to draw vets.. they make money finding
->>->>people jobs.. maybe even a few for Blackwater or Halliburton... read
->>below.
->>->>


->>->>what do you expect them to post marxist and muslim crap.
->>->>
->>->>Get it now ??
->>->>

->>->>*******************************************************************************************************
->>->>Military.com
->>->>
->>->>Registrant:

->>->>Military Advantage Inc.

->>->>544 Pacific Ave - Suite 300
->>->>San Francisco, CA 94133-4608
->>->>US
->>->>


->>->>Domain Name: MILITARY.COM
->>->>
->>->>Administrative Contact:

->>->>Monster Worldwide, Inc. hostmast...@tmpw.net
->>->>5 Clock Tower Place, Suite 500
->>->>Maynard, MA 01754
->>->>US
->>->>978 461 8000 fax: 978 461 8100

->>->>
->>->>Technical Contact:

->>->>Monster Worldwide, Inc. hostm...@tmpw.net
->>->>5 Clock Tower Place, Suite 500
->>->>Maynard, MA 01754
->>->>US
->>->>978 461 8000 fax: 978 461 8100
->>->>


->>->>Record expires on 23-Dec-2009.

->>->>Record created on 20-May-1997.
->>->>Bulk whois optout: N
->>->>Database last updated on 12-Nov-2005 05:11:29 EST.

->>->>
->>->>Domain servers in listed order:
->>->>
->>->>NS1.MILITARY.COM 206.14.215.74

->>->>NS2.MILITARY.COM 64.147.183.5

->>->>
->>->>The Actual Owner...
->>->>
->>->>Military Advantage Inc.
->>->>
->>->>Partners with Monster.com
->>->>
->>->>http://www.govsolutions.monster.com/news_pressRelease.aspx?prID=50
->>->>
->>->>http://www.iac.com/index/news/press_release/press_release_detail.htm?id=6512
->>->>
->>->>Company Profile
->>->>
->>->>Founded in 1967, Monster Worldwide, Inc. is the parent company of

->>Monster?,
->>->>the leading global online careers and recruitment resource property.
The
->>->>company also owns TMP Worldwide, one of the world's largest
Recruitment
->>->>Advertising agency networks. Headquartered in New York with
approximately
->>->>4,500 employees in 26 countries, Monster Worldwide (NASDAQ: MNST) is a
->>->>member of the S&P 500 Index.
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>


->>->>
->>->>******************************************************************************************************

->>->>On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:47:27 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>


->>->>wrote:
->>->>

->>->>->On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:38:19 -0500, Yaketyak

->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->>->

->>->>->>There you go... misrepresenting facts again.. cant you read..
->>->>->>
->>->>->> Associated Press wrote it.. AP AP AP !!!!!! as in leftist media..
get

->>it
->>->>->>now ????


->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>all military.com did was put it on their website.. just for your
own

->>->>->>information military.com is owned by Military Advantage.com which
is
->>->>owned
->>->>->>by Monster.com which is owned by MonsterWorldwide which is based in
->>->>->>massatwoshits.


->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:13:20 -0500, Tom Lacombe
<tlac...@shentel.net>

->>->>->>wrote:
->>->>->>

->>->>->>->On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:48:02 -0500, Yaketyak

->>->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->>->>->

->>->>->>->Yaketyak, This story was run by military.com which is not a
liberal

->>->>->>->publication. Do you think otherwise?
->>->>->>->>Military.com.... not likely..


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->> try AP..
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>Army's Recruiting Lowest in Years

->>->>->>->>Associated Press | September 30, 2005


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>on a level with the NYTimes or worse.. still cant get your
sources

->>->>->>->>straight.. even in tyour own head.


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>why not try the truth for a change.. education is a good thing,

->>->>->>especially
->>->>->>->>in your case.


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>DoD Announces Recruiting and Retention Numbers for October

->>->>->>->>In-Depth Coverage

->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->> The Department of Defense announced today its recruiting and

->>->>retention
->>->>->>->>statistics by the active and reserve components for the month of
->>->>October.


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>? Active duty recruiting. All services exceeded their

->>->>recruiting
->>->>->>->>goals in October.

->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>Service Accessions Goal Percent

->>->>->>->>Army 4,925
->>->>->>->> 4,700
->>->>->>->> 105%


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>Navy 2,268

->>->>->>->> 2,244
->>->>->>->> 101%
->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>Marine Corps 2,760

->>->>->>->> 2,700
->>->>->>->> 102%


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>Air Force 2,180

->>->>->>->> 2,161
->>->>->>->> 101%


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>? Active duty retention. All services exceeded
retention

->>->>goals
->>->>->>for
->>->>->>->>the month of October.

->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>? Reserve forces recruiting. Four of the six reserve

->>->>components
->>->>->>->>met or exceeded their recruiting goals for October.

->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>Service Accessions Goal Percent

->>->>->>->>Army National Guard 4,050
->>->>->>->> 3,970
->>->>->>->> 102%
->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>Army Reserve 2,198

->>->>->>->> 2,133
->>->>->>->> 103%


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>Navy Reserve 724

->>->>->>->> 811
->>->>->>->> 89%


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>Marine Corps Reserve 692

->>->>->>->> 688
->>->>->>->> 101%
->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>Air National Guard 588

->>->>->>->> 1,010
->>->>->>->> 58%


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>Air Force Reserve 700

->>->>->>->> 693
->>->>->>->> 101%


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>? Reserve forces retention. For October, Army National

->>Guard
->>->>->>->>retention was 98 percent of the cumulative goal of 2,456, and
Air
->>->>->>National
->>->>->>->>Guard retention was 110 percent of its cumulative goal of 986.
->>Losses
->>->>in
->>->>->>all
->>->>->>->>reserve components for September, which was the end of Fiscal
2005,
->>->>were
->>->>->>->>within acceptable limits. Indications are that trend has
continued
->>->>into
->>->>->>->>October.


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->> Detailed information on specific recruiting data can
be

->>->>->>obtained
->>->>->>->>by contacting the individual military recruiting commands at
(502)
->>->>->>626-0164
->>->>->>->>for Army, (210) 565-4678 for Air Force, (703) 784-9454 for
Marine
->>->>Corps
->>->>->>and
->>->>->>->>(901) 874-9049 for Navy. The reserve components can be reached
at
->>the
->>->>->>->>following numbers: National Guard Bureau (703) 607-2586; Army
->>Reserve
->>->>->>(404)
->>->>->>->>464-8490; Air Force Reserve (703) 697-1761; Navy Reserve (985)
->>->>874-5669;
->>->>->>and
->>->>->>->>Marine Corps Reserve (504) 678-6535.


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2005/nr20051110-5089.html
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>What kind of whining are you going to do now ?
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:54:21 -0500, Tom Lacombe

->><tlac...@shentel.net>
->>->>->>->>wrote:
->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>->On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:51:10 -0500, Yaketyak

->>->>->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->>->>->>->
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>every time you repost this trash you get your ass handed to

->>you..
->>->>post
->>->>->>->>some
->>->>->>->>->>proof other than a leftist source or cut the crap..


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:30:34 -0500, Tom Lacombe

->>->><tlac...@shentel.net>
->>->>->>->>->>wrote:


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->Doug the fact is that the all-volunteer Army had raised the

->>bar.
->>->>Now
->>->>->>->>->>->it has been lowered, and incentives have been upped, and
still
->>->>there
->>->>->>->>->>->are not enough recruits.

->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today

->>->>->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,

->>->>->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>Like it or not...

->>->>->>->>->> Yaketyak
->>->>->>->>->I hope you don't think military.com is a leftist source.
->>->>->>->>->http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,77951,00.html?ESRC=eb.nl
->>->>->>->>->If that doesn't give you a clue try the recent post by
tuttle's
->>->>->>->>->almanac. I know you are trying to show a stiff upper lip like
the
->>->>->>->>->recruiting chiefs, but look at all the stuff they are offering
->>these
->>->>->>->>->kids, and they still can't get the numbers up. 15 month
->>->>enlistments,
->>->>->>->>->help getting GED's, etc.


->>->>->>->>-
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>Like it or not...
->>->>->>->> Yaketyak
->>->>->>->

->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>->>->>
->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>->>->>
->>->>->>Like it or not...
->>->>->> Yaketyak

->>->>->Yaketyak, Military.com is not a liberal type of organization. They
->>->>->are a pro-military publication. They published the AP report because
->>->>->they thought it had some merit. Because an organization is based in
->>->>->Mass. does not mean it is liberal.

->>->>
->>->>
->>->>

->>->>
->>->>
->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>->>
->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>->>
->>->>Like it or not...
->>->> Yaketyak

->>->Yaketyak, Thank you for documenting that Military.com is not a liberal
->>->organization. Sure they are out to make a buck, and vets are the
->>->market they have targeted. All anybody has to do is visit the site and
->>->see for themselves. http://www.military.com/
->>->http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html


->>
->>
->>
->>
->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>
->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>
->>Like it or not...
->> Yaketyak
->

Tom Lacombe

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On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:28:26 -0500, Yaketyak
<Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:

>actually no...
> I was trying to get you to be honest and admit that AP wrote the slanted
>lies you called truth and you redirected it into something I didnt say so
>you could avoid the truth as usual..

Yaketyak, Would you care for some cheese to go with your whine?

http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html

Yaketyak

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to
You fuckin' fool.. it dont mean a shit to me if you choose to be a liar its
your conscience that has to live with it.. fuckin fool.
The only real difference between you and i2pshit is that he's smart enough
to hide his identity.


On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:33:56 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
wrote:

->On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:28:26 -0500, Yaketyak
-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->
->>actually no...
->> I was trying to get you to be honest and admit that AP wrote the slanted
->>lies you called truth and you redirected it into something I didnt say so
->>you could avoid the truth as usual..
->Yaketyak, Would you care for some cheese to go with your whine?

->>
->>
->>
->>
->>

->>On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:37:51 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
->>wrote:
->>
->>->On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:28:32 -0500, Yaketyak


->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->
->>->>
->>->>

->>->>like ip2shit says... ya fuckin' moron.

->>->In other words Yaketyak, you know that military.com is not a liberal
->>->organization, and you are tired of trying to prove that they are.

->>->>
->>->>
->>->>
->>->>On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:08:53 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>

->>->>wrote:
->>->>

->>->>->On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:40:53 -0500, Yaketyak

->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->>->
->>->>->>
->>->>->>

->>->>->>...or maybe, just maybe, it fit the editrors agenda.. you obviously

->>have
->>->>no
->>->>->>concept of how things happen in the media.. remember the NYTimes..
->>->>->>maybe thats why your such a good useful idiot.


->>->>->>
->>->>->>either way the fact that it was a bold faced lie either totally

->>escapes
->>->>your
->>->>->>ability to reason or you refuse to accept truth over disinformation
->>->>because
->>->>->>it doesnt fit your slanted preconceived agenda..


->>->>->>
->>->>->>on another note... Military.com is a sideshow for the real purpose
of

->>its
->>->>->>existence.. which is to help vets obtain work.. its called a single
->>->>purpose
->>->>->>job search, it is owned by Monster Worldwide, their military.com
->>website
->>->>is
->>->>->>just an advertising attraction to draw vets.. they make money
finding
->>->>->>people jobs.. maybe even a few for Blackwater or Halliburton...
read
->>->>below.


->>->>->>
->>->>->>what do you expect them to post marxist and muslim crap.
->>->>->>
->>->>->>Get it now ??
->>->>->>
->>->>->>*******************************************************************************************************

->>->>->>Military.com


->>->>->>
->>->>->>Registrant:

->>->>->>Military Advantage Inc.

->>->>->>544 Pacific Ave - Suite 300
->>->>->>San Francisco, CA 94133-4608
->>->>->>US

->>->>->>
->>->>->>Domain Name: MILITARY.COM
->>->>->>
->>->>->>Administrative Contact:

->>->>->>Monster Worldwide, Inc. hostmast...@tmpw.net
->>->>->>5 Clock Tower Place, Suite 500
->>->>->>Maynard, MA 01754
->>->>->>US
->>->>->>978 461 8000 fax: 978 461 8100

->>->>->>
->>->>->>Technical Contact:

->>->>->>Monster Worldwide, Inc. hostm...@tmpw.net
->>->>->>5 Clock Tower Place, Suite 500
->>->>->>Maynard, MA 01754
->>->>->>US
->>->>->>978 461 8000 fax: 978 461 8100
->>->>->>


->>->>->>Record expires on 23-Dec-2009.

->>->>->>Record created on 20-May-1997.
->>->>->>Bulk whois optout: N
->>->>->>Database last updated on 12-Nov-2005 05:11:29 EST.

->>->>->>
->>->>->>Domain servers in listed order:
->>->>->>
->>->>->>NS1.MILITARY.COM 206.14.215.74

->>->>->>NS2.MILITARY.COM 64.147.183.5

->>->>->>
->>->>->>The Actual Owner...
->>->>->>
->>->>->>Military Advantage Inc.
->>->>->>
->>->>->>Partners with Monster.com
->>->>->>
->>->>->>http://www.govsolutions.monster.com/news_pressRelease.aspx?prID=50
->>->>->>
->>->>->>http://www.iac.com/index/news/press_release/press_release_detail.htm?id=6512
->>->>->>
->>->>->>Company Profile
->>->>->>
->>->>->>Founded in 1967, Monster Worldwide, Inc. is the parent company of

->>->>Monster?,
->>->>->>the leading global online careers and recruitment resource
property.
->>The
->>->>->>company also owns TMP Worldwide, one of the world's largest
->>Recruitment
->>->>->>Advertising agency networks. Headquartered in New York with
->>approximately
->>->>->>4,500 employees in 26 countries, Monster Worldwide (NASDAQ: MNST)
is a
->>->>->>member of the S&P 500 Index.

->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>******************************************************************************************************

->>->>->>On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:47:27 -0500, Tom Lacombe
<tlac...@shentel.net>


->>->>->>wrote:
->>->>->>

->>->>->>->On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:38:19 -0500, Yaketyak

->>->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->>->>->

->>->>->>->>There you go... misrepresenting facts again.. cant you read..
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->> Associated Press wrote it.. AP AP AP !!!!!! as in leftist
media..

->>get
->>->>it
->>->>->>->>now ????


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>all military.com did was put it on their website.. just for your

->>own
->>->>->>->>information military.com is owned by Military Advantage.com
which
->>is
->>->>->>owned
->>->>->>->>by Monster.com which is owned by MonsterWorldwide which is based
in
->>->>->>->>massatwoshits.


->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:13:20 -0500, Tom Lacombe

->><tlac...@shentel.net>
->>->>->>->>wrote:
->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>->On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:48:02 -0500, Yaketyak

->>->>->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->>->>->>->

->>->>->>->>->Yaketyak, This story was run by military.com which is not a

->>liberal
->>->>->>->>->publication. Do you think otherwise?
->>->>->>->>->>Military.com.... not likely..


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->> try AP..
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>Army's Recruiting Lowest in Years

->>->>->>->>->>Associated Press | September 30, 2005


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>on a level with the NYTimes or worse.. still cant get your

->>sources
->>->>->>->>->>straight.. even in tyour own head.


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>why not try the truth for a change.. education is a good
thing,

->>->>->>->>especially
->>->>->>->>->>in your case.


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>DoD Announces Recruiting and Retention Numbers for October

->>->>->>->>->>In-Depth Coverage

->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->> The Department of Defense announced today its recruiting
and

->>->>->>retention
->>->>->>->>->>statistics by the active and reserve components for the month
of
->>->>->>October.


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>? Active duty recruiting. All services exceeded their

->>->>->>recruiting
->>->>->>->>->>goals in October.

->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>Service Accessions Goal Percent

->>->>->>->>->>Army 4,925
->>->>->>->>->> 4,700
->>->>->>->>->> 105%


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>Navy 2,268

->>->>->>->>->> 2,244
->>->>->>->>->> 101%


->>->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>->>Marine Corps 2,760

->>->>->>->>->> 2,700
->>->>->>->>->> 102%


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>Air Force 2,180

->>->>->>->>->> 2,161
->>->>->>->>->> 101%


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>? Active duty retention. All services exceeded

->>retention
->>->>->>goals


->>->>->>->>for

->>->>->>->>->>the month of October.

->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>? Reserve forces recruiting. Four of the six
reserve

->>->>->>components
->>->>->>->>->>met or exceeded their recruiting goals for October.

->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>->>Service Accessions Goal Percent

->>->>->>->>->>Army National Guard 4,050
->>->>->>->>->> 3,970
->>->>->>->>->> 102%


->>->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>->>Army Reserve 2,198

->>->>->>->>->> 2,133
->>->>->>->>->> 103%


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>Navy Reserve 724

->>->>->>->>->> 811
->>->>->>->>->> 89%


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>Marine Corps Reserve 692

->>->>->>->>->> 688
->>->>->>->>->> 101%


->>->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>->>Air National Guard 588

->>->>->>->>->> 1,010
->>->>->>->>->> 58%


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>Air Force Reserve 700

->>->>->>->>->> 693
->>->>->>->>->> 101%


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>->>? Reserve forces retention. For October, Army
National

->>->>Guard
->>->>->>->>->>retention was 98 percent of the cumulative goal of 2,456,
and
->>Air
->>->>->>->>National
->>->>->>->>->>Guard retention was 110 percent of its cumulative goal of
986.
->>->>Losses
->>->>->>in
->>->>->>->>all
->>->>->>->>->>reserve components for September, which was the end of Fiscal
->>2005,
->>->>->>were
->>->>->>->>->>within acceptable limits. Indications are that trend has
->>continued
->>->>->>into
->>->>->>->>->>October.


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>->> Detailed information on specific recruiting data
can

->>be
->>->>->>->>obtained
->>->>->>->>->>by contacting the individual military recruiting commands at
->>(502)
->>->>->>->>626-0164
->>->>->>->>->>for Army, (210) 565-4678 for Air Force, (703) 784-9454 for
->>Marine
->>->>->>Corps
->>->>->>->>and
->>->>->>->>->>(901) 874-9049 for Navy. The reserve components can be
reached
->>at
->>->>the
->>->>->>->>->>following numbers: National Guard Bureau (703) 607-2586; Army
->>->>Reserve
->>->>->>->>(404)
->>->>->>->>->>464-8490; Air Force Reserve (703) 697-1761; Navy Reserve
(985)
->>->>->>874-5669;
->>->>->>->>and
->>->>->>->>->>Marine Corps Reserve (504) 678-6535.


->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2005/nr20051110-5089.html
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>What kind of whining are you going to do now ?
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:54:21 -0500, Tom Lacombe

->>->><tlac...@shentel.net>
->>->>->>->>->>wrote:
->>->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>->>->On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:51:10 -0500, Yaketyak

->>->>->>->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->>->>->>->>->>->
->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>every time you repost this trash you get your ass handed
to

->>->>you..
->>->>->>post
->>->>->>->>->>some
->>->>->>->>->>->>proof other than a leftist source or cut the crap..


->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:30:34 -0500, Tom Lacombe

->>->>->><tlac...@shentel.net>
->>->>->>->>->>->>wrote:


->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>->Doug the fact is that the all-volunteer Army had raised
the

->>->>bar.
->>->>->>Now
->>->>->>->>->>->>->it has been lowered, and incentives have been upped, and
->>still
->>->>->>there
->>->>->>->>->>->>->are not enough recruits.

->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today

->>->>->>->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?


->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,

->>->>->>->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>->>->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>->>->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>->>->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>->>->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.


->>->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>->>Like it or not...

->>->>->>->>->>->> Yaketyak
->>->>->>->>->>->I hope you don't think military.com is a leftist source.
->>->>->>->>->>->http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,77951,00.html?ESRC=eb.nl
->>->>->>->>->>->If that doesn't give you a clue try the recent post by
->>tuttle's
->>->>->>->>->>->almanac. I know you are trying to show a stiff upper lip
like
->>the
->>->>->>->>->>->recruiting chiefs, but look at all the stuff they are
offering
->>->>these
->>->>->>->>->>->kids, and they still can't get the numbers up. 15 month
->>->>->>enlistments,
->>->>->>->>->>->help getting GED's, etc.


->>->>->>->>->>-
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>

->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>->>->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>->>->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>->>Like it or not...
->>->>->>->>->> Yaketyak
->>->>->>->>->

->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>->>->>->>
->>->>->>->>Like it or not...
->>->>->>->> Yaketyak

->>->>->>->Yaketyak, Military.com is not a liberal type of organization.
They
->>->>->>->are a pro-military publication. They published the AP report
because
->>->>->>->they thought it had some merit. Because an organization is based
in
->>->>->>->Mass. does not mean it is liberal.

->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>
->>->>->>

->>->>->>
->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>->>->>
->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>->>->>
->>->>->>Like it or not...
->>->>->> Yaketyak

->>->>->Yaketyak, Thank you for documenting that Military.com is not a
liberal
->>->>->organization. Sure they are out to make a buck, and vets are the
->>->>->market they have targeted. All anybody has to do is visit the site
and
->>->>->see for themselves. http://www.military.com/
->>->>->http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html
->>->>
->>->>


->>->>
->>->>
->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->>->>
->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->>->>
->>->>Like it or not...
->>->> Yaketyak
->>->

Latrine Orderly Canadian War Library

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I'd like to know how da fuck you both keep up with the 'conversation'

"Yaketyak" <Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote in message
news:p9mkn19qicpbfsbk5...@4ax.com...

Yaketyak

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jumping jacks


On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 22:04:33 GMT, "Latrine Orderly Canadian War Library"
<awrli...@hotmail.net> wrote:

->I'd like to know how da fuck you both keep up with the 'conversation'
->
->"Yaketyak" <Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote in message
->news:p9mkn19qicpbfsbk5...@4ax.com...
->You fuckin' fool.. it dont mean a shit to me if you choose to be a liar
its
->your conscience that has to live with it.. fuckin fool.
->The only real difference between you and i2pshit is that he's smart enough
->to hide his identity.
->
->
->
->
->On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:33:56 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>
->wrote:
->
->->On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:28:26 -0500, Yaketyak


->-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->->

->->>actually no...
->->> I was trying to get you to be honest and admit that AP wrote the
slanted
->->>lies you called truth and you redirected it into something I didnt say
so
->->>you could avoid the truth as usual..
->->Yaketyak, Would you care for some cheese to go with your whine?


->->>
->->>
->->>
->->>
->->>
->->>On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:37:51 -0500, Tom Lacombe <tlac...@shentel.net>

->->>wrote:
->->>

->->>->On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:28:32 -0500, Yaketyak

->->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->->>->
->->>->>
->->>->>

->->>->>like ip2shit says... ya fuckin' moron.

->->>->In other words Yaketyak, you know that military.com is not a liberal
->->>->organization, and you are tired of trying to prove that they are.


->->>->>
->->>->>
->->>->>
->->>->>On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:08:53 -0500, Tom Lacombe
<tlac...@shentel.net>

->->>->>wrote:
->->>->>

->->>->>->On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:40:53 -0500, Yaketyak

->->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->->>->>->
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>

->->>->>->>...or maybe, just maybe, it fit the editrors agenda.. you
obviously

->->>have
->->>->>no
->->>->>->>concept of how things happen in the media.. remember the
NYTimes..
->->>->>->>maybe thats why your such a good useful idiot.


->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>either way the fact that it was a bold faced lie either totally

->->>escapes
->->>->>your
->->>->>->>ability to reason or you refuse to accept truth over
disinformation
->->>->>because
->->>->>->>it doesnt fit your slanted preconceived agenda..


->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>on another note... Military.com is a sideshow for the real
purpose

->of
->->>its
->->>->>->>existence.. which is to help vets obtain work.. its called a
single
->->>->>purpose
->->>->>->>job search, it is owned by Monster Worldwide, their military.com
->->>website
->->>->>is
->->>->>->>just an advertising attraction to draw vets.. they make money
->finding
->->>->>->>people jobs.. maybe even a few for Blackwater or Halliburton...
->read
->->>->>below.


->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>what do you expect them to post marxist and muslim crap.
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>Get it now ??
->->>->>->>

->->>->>->>*******************************************************************
->************************************
->->>->>->>Military.com


->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>Registrant:

->->>->>->>Military Advantage Inc.

->->>->>->>544 Pacific Ave - Suite 300
->->>->>->>San Francisco, CA 94133-4608
->->>->>->>US


->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>Domain Name: MILITARY.COM
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>Administrative Contact:

->->>->>->>Monster Worldwide, Inc. hostmast...@tmpw.net
->->>->>->>5 Clock Tower Place, Suite 500
->->>->>->>Maynard, MA 01754
->->>->>->>US
->->>->>->>978 461 8000 fax: 978 461 8100


->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>Technical Contact:

->->>->>->>Monster Worldwide, Inc. hostm...@tmpw.net
->->>->>->>5 Clock Tower Place, Suite 500
->->>->>->>Maynard, MA 01754
->->>->>->>US
->->>->>->>978 461 8000 fax: 978 461 8100
->->>->>->>


->->>->>->>Record expires on 23-Dec-2009.

->->>->>->>Record created on 20-May-1997.
->->>->>->>Bulk whois optout: N
->->>->>->>Database last updated on 12-Nov-2005 05:11:29 EST.


->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>Domain servers in listed order:
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>NS1.MILITARY.COM 206.14.215.74

->->>->>->>NS2.MILITARY.COM 64.147.183.5


->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>The Actual Owner...
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>Military Advantage Inc.
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>Partners with Monster.com
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>http://www.govsolutions.monster.com/news_pressRelease.aspx?prID=50
->->>->>->>

->->>->>->>http://www.iac.com/index/news/press_release/press_release_detail.ht
->m?id=6512


->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>Company Profile
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>Founded in 1967, Monster Worldwide, Inc. is the parent company of

->->>->>Monster?,
->->>->>->>the leading global online careers and recruitment resource
->property.
->->>The
->->>->>->>company also owns TMP Worldwide, one of the world's largest
->->>Recruitment
->->>->>->>Advertising agency networks. Headquartered in New York with
->->>approximately
->->>->>->>4,500 employees in 26 countries, Monster Worldwide (NASDAQ: MNST)
->is a
->->>->>->>member of the S&P 500 Index.


->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>

->->>->>->>


->->>->>->>*******************************************************************

->***********************************
->->>->>->>On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:47:27 -0500, Tom Lacombe


-><tlac...@shentel.net>
->->>->>->>wrote:
->->>->>->>

->->>->>->>->On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:38:19 -0500, Yaketyak

->->>->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->->>->>->>->

->->>->>->>->>There you go... misrepresenting facts again.. cant you read..
->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->> Associated Press wrote it.. AP AP AP !!!!!! as in leftist

->media..
->->>get
->->>->>it
->->>->>->>->>now ????


->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>all military.com did was put it on their website.. just for
your

->->>own
->->>->>->>->>information military.com is owned by Military Advantage.com
->which
->->>is
->->>->>->>owned
->->>->>->>->>by Monster.com which is owned by MonsterWorldwide which is
based
->in
->->>->>->>->>massatwoshits.


->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:13:20 -0500, Tom Lacombe

->->><tlac...@shentel.net>
->->>->>->>->>wrote:
->->>->>->>->>

->->>->>->>->>->On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:48:02 -0500, Yaketyak

->->>->>->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->->>->>->>->>->

->->>->>->>->>->Yaketyak, This story was run by military.com which is not a

->->>liberal
->->>->>->>->>->publication. Do you think otherwise?
->->>->>->>->>->>Military.com.... not likely..


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->> try AP..
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>Army's Recruiting Lowest in Years

->->>->>->>->>->>Associated Press | September 30, 2005


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>on a level with the NYTimes or worse.. still cant get your

->->>sources
->->>->>->>->>->>straight.. even in tyour own head.


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>why not try the truth for a change.. education is a good

->thing,
->->>->>->>->>especially
->->>->>->>->>->>in your case.


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>-------------------------------------------------------------
->-------------------

->->>->>->>->>->>


->->>->>->>->>->>DoD Announces Recruiting and Retention Numbers for October

->->>->>->>->>->>In-Depth Coverage


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->> The Department of Defense announced today its recruiting

->and
->->>->>->>retention
->->>->>->>->>->>statistics by the active and reserve components for the
month
->of


->->>->>->>October.
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>

->->>->>->>->>->>? Active duty recruiting. All services exceeded
their

->->>->>->>recruiting
->->>->>->>->>->>goals in October.


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>Service Accessions Goal Percent

->->>->>->>->>->>Army 4,925
->->>->>->>->>->> 4,700
->->>->>->>->>->> 105%


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>Navy 2,268

->->>->>->>->>->> 2,244
->->>->>->>->>->> 101%


->->>->>->>->>->>

->->>->>->>->>->>Marine Corps 2,760

->->>->>->>->>->> 2,700
->->>->>->>->>->> 102%


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>Air Force 2,180

->->>->>->>->>->> 2,161
->->>->>->>->>->> 101%


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>? Active duty retention. All services exceeded

->->>retention
->->>->>->>goals
->->>->>->>->>for
->->>->>->>->>->>the month of October.


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>? Reserve forces recruiting. Four of the six

->reserve
->->>->>->>components
->->>->>->>->>->>met or exceeded their recruiting goals for October.


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>

->->>->>->>->>->>Service Accessions Goal Percent

->->>->>->>->>->>Army National Guard 4,050
->->>->>->>->>->> 3,970
->->>->>->>->>->> 102%


->->>->>->>->>->>

->->>->>->>->>->>Army Reserve 2,198

->->>->>->>->>->> 2,133
->->>->>->>->>->> 103%


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>Navy Reserve 724

->->>->>->>->>->> 811
->->>->>->>->>->> 89%


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>Marine Corps Reserve 692

->->>->>->>->>->> 688
->->>->>->>->>->> 101%


->->>->>->>->>->>

->->>->>->>->>->>Air National Guard 588

->->>->>->>->>->> 1,010
->->>->>->>->>->> 58%


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>Air Force Reserve 700

->->>->>->>->>->> 693
->->>->>->>->>->> 101%


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>

->->>->>->>->>->>? Reserve forces retention. For October, Army

->National
->->>->>Guard
->->>->>->>->>->>retention was 98 percent of the cumulative goal of 2,456,
->and
->->>Air
->->>->>->>->>National
->->>->>->>->>->>Guard retention was 110 percent of its cumulative goal of
->986.
->->>->>Losses
->->>->>->>in
->->>->>->>->>all
->->>->>->>->>->>reserve components for September, which was the end of
Fiscal
->->>2005,
->->>->>->>were
->->>->>->>->>->>within acceptable limits. Indications are that trend has
->->>continued
->->>->>->>into
->->>->>->>->>->>October.


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>

->->>->>->>->>->> Detailed information on specific recruiting
data

->can
->->>be
->->>->>->>->>obtained
->->>->>->>->>->>by contacting the individual military recruiting commands
at
->->>(502)
->->>->>->>->>626-0164
->->>->>->>->>->>for Army, (210) 565-4678 for Air Force, (703) 784-9454 for
->->>Marine
->->>->>->>Corps
->->>->>->>->>and
->->>->>->>->>->>(901) 874-9049 for Navy. The reserve components can be
->reached
->->>at
->->>->>the
->->>->>->>->>->>following numbers: National Guard Bureau (703) 607-2586;
Army
->->>->>Reserve
->->>->>->>->>(404)
->->>->>->>->>->>464-8490; Air Force Reserve (703) 697-1761; Navy Reserve
->(985)
->->>->>->>874-5669;
->->>->>->>->>and
->->>->>->>->>->>Marine Corps Reserve (504) 678-6535.


->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2005/nr20051110-5089.html
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>What kind of whining are you going to do now ?
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:54:21 -0500, Tom Lacombe

->->>->><tlac...@shentel.net>
->->>->>->>->>->>wrote:
->->>->>->>->>->>

->->>->>->>->>->>->On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:51:10 -0500, Yaketyak

->->>->>->>->>->>-><Yake...@dontcomeback.gov> wrote:
->->>->>->>->>->>->
->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>every time you repost this trash you get your ass handed

->to
->->>->>you..
->->>->>->>post
->->>->>->>->>->>some
->->>->>->>->>->>->>proof other than a leftist source or cut the crap..


->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:30:34 -0500, Tom Lacombe

->->>->>->><tlac...@shentel.net>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>wrote:


->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>->Doug the fact is that the all-volunteer Army had
raised

->the
->->>->>bar.
->->>->>->>Now
->->>->>->>->>->>->>->it has been lowered, and incentives have been upped,
and
->->>still
->->>->>->>there
->->>->>->>->>->>->>->are not enough recruits.


->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today

->->>->>->>->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?


->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,

->->>->>->>->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->->>->>->>->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->->>->>->>->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->->>->>->>->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->->>->>->>->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.


->->>->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>->>Like it or not...

->->>->>->>->>->>->> Yaketyak
->->>->>->>->>->>->I hope you don't think military.com is a leftist source.
->->>->>->>->>->>->http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,77951,00.html?E
->SRC=eb.nl
->->>->>->>->>->>->If that doesn't give you a clue try the recent post by
->->>tuttle's
->->>->>->>->>->>->almanac. I know you are trying to show a stiff upper lip
->like
->->>the
->->>->>->>->>->>->recruiting chiefs, but look at all the stuff they are
->offering
->->>->>these
->->>->>->>->>->>->kids, and they still can't get the numbers up. 15 month
->->>->>->>enlistments,
->->>->>->>->>->>->help getting GED's, etc.


->->>->>->>->>->>-
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>

->->>->>->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->->>->>->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->->>->>->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->->>->>->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->->>->>->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->->>->>->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->->>->>->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->->>->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>->>Like it or not...
->->>->>->>->>->> Yaketyak
->->>->>->>->>->

->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->->>->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->->>->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->->>->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->->>->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->->>->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->->>->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->->>->>->>->>
->->>->>->>->>Like it or not...
->->>->>->>->> Yaketyak

->->>->>->>->Yaketyak, Military.com is not a liberal type of organization.
->They
->->>->>->>->are a pro-military publication. They published the AP report
->because
->->>->>->>->they thought it had some merit. Because an organization is
based
->in
->->>->>->>->Mass. does not mean it is liberal.


->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>

->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->->>->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->->>->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->->>->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->->>->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->->>->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->->>->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->->>->>->>
->->>->>->>Like it or not...
->->>->>->> Yaketyak

->->>->>->Yaketyak, Thank you for documenting that Military.com is not a
->liberal
->->>->>->organization. Sure they are out to make a buck, and vets are the
->->>->>->market they have targeted. All anybody has to do is visit the site
->and
->->>->>->see for themselves. http://www.military.com/
->->>->>->http://cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/tom.html


->->>->>
->->>->>
->->>->>

->->>->>
->->>->>How many terrorist's did you help today
->->>->>by supporting them in attacking your own ?
->->>->>
->->>->>If you put even a grin or a smirk on one,
->->>->>given him the slightest hint he has support,
->->>->>made him think we have no nerve or anything
->->>->>else that gives him the slightest bit of hope
->->>->>to succeed its too many by a lot and you have
->->>->>committed treason by its very definition.
->->>->>
->->>->>Like it or not...
->->>->> Yaketyak
->->>->

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