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maps

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Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
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Guys,
Seems like everyplace I move to there are plants that look unique as
sprouts, so I water them to see what they will become. Some of them are
real bastids, like the "Goat Heads" they start out wih a pretty blue
flower and spread with tentacles, but everywhere they send down a root
they also build a goat head seed that has been known to puncture auto
tires! Damn things were so prevalant a couple of years back that I
tried to put booties on my dogs feet so they wouldn't try and run three
legged. Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my
neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg cause
I have never seen any butterflies around them. I came home from work
the other day to feed my dogs and there were two hugh yellow and black
bfs dancing in my driveway! As I watched them, they would once in a
while fly over to the plants and land and stick their tentacles into the
flowers. Now, do any of you guys know what this plant is really called,
and is there a market for them? I remember as a child, way back in the
Eisenhower years, collecting the dried out seed pods and making xmas
tree decorations out of them. Saw them again this morning, (the
butterflies) one has a wingspan of over six inches and has a area at
the bottom of each wing that is brilliant blue.
Would it be too much to ask you to explain the sites in your own words,
that I think you might find? Of course the links would be fine too, but
the best way for all of us to grow is to learn insightfullness... and I
know I need not remind you that storytellers are valued in any society.

M


pmartin

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Jun 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/28/00
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Odd Marc, we were talking here how we see no more
Butterflys or Lightning bugs. Almost never see them now.
I've not seen a Lightning bug in years, as a kid we put them
in bottles. Amazing things.

"maps" <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Ted Gittinger

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maps wrote in message
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Guys,
Seems like everyplace I move to there are plants that look unique as
sprouts, so I water them to see what they will become. Some of them are
real bastids, like the "Goat Heads" they start out wih a pretty blue
flower and spread with tentacles, but everywhere they send down a root
they also build a goat head seed that has been known to puncture auto
tires! Damn things were so prevalant a couple of years back that I
tried to put booties on my dogs feet so they wouldn't try and run three
legged.

Three-pronged "goat-head" stickers were the bane of my young ball-playing
existence in San Antonio. Very sharp, very tough, the only sticker that my
barefoot Mexican-American playmates respected.

We had a gound rule in fast-pitch softball sandlot games: If a batted ball
goes in the goat-head patch, it is a ground rule double. Nobody in his
right mind would try to pick that ball up and make a quick throw to an
infielder.

[ Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my


neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg cause
I have never seen any butterflies around them. I came home from work
the other day to feed my dogs and there were two hugh yellow and black
bfs dancing in my driveway! As I watched them, they would once in a
while fly over to the plants and land and stick their tentacles into the
flowers. Now, do any of you guys know what this plant is really called,

and is there a market for them? ]

In Texas a plant called a butterfly bush is a standard mail-order item. I
have no experience with them personally.

And that thingy ain't a tentacle; it's a feeding tube which corresponds to a
tongue in other critters.

[Saw them again this morning, (the


butterflies) one has a wingspan of over six inches and has a area at

the bottom of each wing that is brilliant blue.]

Where in heaven's name do you live? Brazil? I haven't seen butterflies
such as you describe, outside of a museum, in my lifetime.


[and I
know I need not remind you that storytellers are valued in any society.]

Not all of them, I fear.

Check that; not all of them, I trust.

Warm regards,

teodoro
el sin verguenza

M


Al Zeller

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pmartin wrote:
>
> Odd Marc, we were talking here how we see no more
> Butterflys or Lightning bugs. Almost never see them now.
> I've not seen a Lightning bug in years, as a kid we put them
> in bottles. Amazing things.
>
> "maps" <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:6877-395...@storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net...

> > Guys,
> > Seems like everyplace I move to there are plants that look unique as
> > sprouts, so I water them to see what they will become. Some of them are
> > real bastids, like the "Goat Heads" they start out wih a pretty blue
> > flower and spread with tentacles, but everywhere they send down a root
> > they also build a goat head seed that has been known to puncture auto
> > tires! Damn things were so prevalant a couple of years back that I
> > tried to put booties on my dogs feet so they wouldn't try and run three

> > legged. Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my


> > neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg cause

They're called butterfly bushes. Got one growing in my backyard, altho
my wife, the gardner, says it needs more sun.
Also have a yard full of lightning bugs. This seems a good year for
them. Ever notice that they only light up in vertical flight, not when
they are flying level?

Al

Mokieman

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maps <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Guys,
> Seems like everyplace I move to there are plants that look unique as
> sprouts, so I water them to see what they will become. Some of them are
> real bastids, like the "Goat Heads" they start out wih a pretty blue
> flower and spread with tentacles, but everywhere they send down a root
> they also build a goat head seed that has been known to puncture auto
> tires! Damn things were so prevalant a couple of years back that I
> tried to put booties on my dogs feet so they wouldn't try and run three
> legged. Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my
> neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg cause
> I have never seen any butterflies around them. I came home from work
> the other day to feed my dogs and there were two hugh yellow and black
> bfs dancing in my driveway! As I watched them, they would once in a
> while fly over to the plants and land and stick their tentacles into the
> flowers. Now, do any of you guys know what this plant is really called,
> and is there a market for them? I remember as a child, way back in the
> Eisenhower years, collecting the dried out seed pods and making xmas
> tree decorations out of them. Saw them again this morning, (the

> butterflies) one has a wingspan of over six inches and has a area at
> the bottom of each wing that is brilliant blue.
> Would it be too much to ask you to explain the sites in your own words,
> that I think you might find? Of course the links would be fine too, but
> the best way for all of us to grow is to learn insightfullness... and I

> know I need not remind you that storytellers are valued in any society.
>
> M
>
Marcus the Butter Flys are Swallow Tails, they migrate up to the southern
tier of the south west from a lake in Mexico, in the winter they will return
there, I remember when I was younger, say 15 years ago they were like a snow
storm, in southern Utah, every year during the last two weeks of May,
through June, and the first weeks in July they would be in the air so thick
it was hard to see. It is good to see them again, We have them here also, in
abundance, but not like years ago. It's hard to tell what kind of plant your
talking about Marcus you didn't give a description of it, leaf, size, color.
Flower, size color, I tend to think it might be Buffalow Pea, but without a
description it's hard to tell. We used to make ornaments from the dried
branches.
When the Swallow Tails were abundant, we would catch them, and dry them
in sand, being very carefull when pouring the sand on them, not to pour to
fast, after about 6 weeks they are dry and can be removed, they are also
color fast at this point, if you buy a wooden base and a glass bell, find a
flower, or limb, of something that is astheticly pleasing to look at and
supper glue the dried butter fly to the branch or flower, (flower can be
dried same way as butterfly) then place glass bell over the exhibit, we used
to sell all we could make for around 50 to 80 dollars apiece.


CuchiD...@webtv.net

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[ Now, do any of you guys know what this plant is really called?]

I think I've heard about this one.My bigger half would know,but she's
snoring,and I don't want to interrupt her rythm too suddenly,as such an
abrupt halt might cause the vibrating windowpanes to just disintegrate
into tiny pieces. I hate cleaing up broken glass.Besides,the silence
would be deafening,and I already have hearing loss.

Live free or die ! Don't tread on me ! The cost of freedom is eternal
vigilance.


Bill Langston

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Right, it's the Butterfly Bush and the nectar does attract a wide
variety of butterflies. We have planted them for years, great plants.

Never had the honor to get stuck with a Goat-Head but I sure have been
stuck with a ton of Sand-Spurs, we even used to pull the 'spurs' out
with the stalk attached and throw them at each other. They stick real
nice! (G)

Is that feeding tube not called a proboscis or something to that effect?

SF, Bill Langston.

Ted Gittinger wrote:
>
> maps wrote in message
> <6877-395...@storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

> Guys,
> Seems like everyplace I move to there are plants that look unique as
> sprouts, so I water them to see what they will become. Some of them are
> real bastids, like the "Goat Heads" they start out wih a pretty blue
> flower and spread with tentacles, but everywhere they send down a root
> they also build a goat head seed that has been known to puncture auto
> tires! Damn things were so prevalant a couple of years back that I
> tried to put booties on my dogs feet so they wouldn't try and run three
> legged.
>

> Three-pronged "goat-head" stickers were the bane of my young ball-playing
> existence in San Antonio. Very sharp, very tough, the only sticker that my
> barefoot Mexican-American playmates respected.
>
> We had a gound rule in fast-pitch softball sandlot games: If a batted ball
> goes in the goat-head patch, it is a ground rule double. Nobody in his
> right mind would try to pick that ball up and make a quick throw to an
> infielder.
>

> [ Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my


> neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg cause
> I have never seen any butterflies around them. I came home from work
> the other day to feed my dogs and there were two hugh yellow and black
> bfs dancing in my driveway! As I watched them, they would once in a
> while fly over to the plants and land and stick their tentacles into the
> flowers. Now, do any of you guys know what this plant is really called,

> and is there a market for them? ]
>
> In Texas a plant called a butterfly bush is a standard mail-order item. I
> have no experience with them personally.
>
> And that thingy ain't a tentacle; it's a feeding tube which corresponds to a
> tongue in other critters.
>

> [Saw them again this morning, (the


> butterflies) one has a wingspan of over six inches and has a area at

JohnB

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Around these parts the butterfly plant is also so known as Joe Pye weed. In
the Fall, the monarchs migrate along the Appalachian mtns. This plant
attracts them in numbers. I got a patch in my old pasture that I never mow
down so I can enjoy them.
John

maps wrote:

> Guys,
> Seems like everyplace I move to there are plants that look unique as
> sprouts, so I water them to see what they will become. Some of them are
> real bastids, like the "Goat Heads" they start out wih a pretty blue
> flower and spread with tentacles, but everywhere they send down a root
> they also build a goat head seed that has been known to puncture auto
> tires! Damn things were so prevalant a couple of years back that I
> tried to put booties on my dogs feet so they wouldn't try and run three

> legged. Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my


> neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg cause
> I have never seen any butterflies around them. I came home from work
> the other day to feed my dogs and there were two hugh yellow and black
> bfs dancing in my driveway! As I watched them, they would once in a
> while fly over to the plants and land and stick their tentacles into the
> flowers. Now, do any of you guys know what this plant is really called,

> and is there a market for them? I remember as a child, way back in the
> Eisenhower years, collecting the dried out seed pods and making xmas

> tree decorations out of them. Saw them again this morning, (the


> butterflies) one has a wingspan of over six inches and has a area at
> the bottom of each wing that is brilliant blue.

> Would it be too much to ask you to explain the sites in your own words,
> that I think you might find? Of course the links would be fine too, but

> the best way for all of us to grow is to learn insightfullness... and I


> know I need not remind you that storytellers are valued in any society.
>

> M


maps

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Guys,
Thanks for the responses! I live in northern Nevada, up against the
Sierra-Nevadas, home of the highest peak in the continental US, and just
up the road from the lowest dry point in the US. Obviously these
butterfly plants are somethig else, but I don't see them as bushes, each
plant grows from a single milky stem, and the flower starts out as a big
ball and turns into a buch of balls with soft white spikes protuding,
which it is right now with the two dancing butterflies. then the seed
pods begin to grow at the base of these, and finally pop open in the
late fall and repopigate with cotton puffs. Really a weird plant. So if
any of you want some of the seeds, email me your addy, and I'll mail em
to you!
Say, I believe that I have spelled the city in my sig line, anybody got
a dictionary? Mines packed up already....

I love California; I practically grew up in Phenix! DQ
M


ted gittinger

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maps wrote in message
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Your plant sounds like Asclepiadaceae Tuberosa, aka orange milkweed aka
butterfly weed. (Britannica, under "milkweed.")


Mokieman

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maps <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Guys,
> Thanks for the responses! I live in northern Nevada, up against the
> Sierra-Nevadas, home of the highest peak in the continental US, and just
> up the road from the lowest dry point in the US. Obviously these
> butterfly plants are somethig else, but I don't see them as bushes, each
> plant grows from a single milky stem, and the flower starts out as a big
> ball and turns into a buch of balls with soft white spikes protuding,
> which it is right now with the two dancing butterflies. then the seed
> pods begin to grow at the base of these, and finally pop open in the
> late fall and repopigate with cotton puffs. Really a weird plant. So if
> any of you want some of the seeds, email me your addy, and I'll mail em
> to you!
> Say, I believe that I have spelled the city in my sig line, anybody got
> a dictionary? Mines packed up already....
>
> I love California; I practically grew up in Phenix! DQ
> M
>
Sounds like Milk Weed
As an aside, the pods, before they break open contain in the center when you
strip away the fibers from the outside a sweet piece of meat, don't know
what else to call it we used to eat it when I was a kid, good stuff.

Jim Elbrecht

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JohnB <timp...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Around these parts the butterfly plant is also so known as Joe Pye weed. In
>the Fall, the monarchs migrate along the Appalachian mtns. This plant
>attracts them in numbers. I got a patch in my old pasture that I never mow
>down so I can enjoy them.

Hey-- we call Eupatorium Masculatum [and a few cousins] Joe Pie weed
in NY.<g> It's purple, fluffy, 8 feet tall, and draws more bees than
butterflies.

jim
[who's falling in with those who think Maps has a Butterfly Weed of
the milkweed family.]

pmartin

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Al, its been so long since I seen one I can't say
a thing about their flight. Just knew it was a chemical
reaction, I think for mating, I'm not sure on that.
Monacarks where here, never see them or 'butter milk'
butter flies..jeeez..something is very wrong.
Seagalls fly only over land...why ?
When they shit on your car, you get BOMBED !
Hell, its more like an Arc Light.


"Al Zeller" <zel...@nscl.msu.edu> wrote in message
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>
>
> pmartin wrote:
> >
> > Odd Marc, we were talking here how we see no more
> > Butterflys or Lightning bugs. Almost never see them now.
> > I've not seen a Lightning bug in years, as a kid we put them
> > in bottles. Amazing things.
> >

> > "maps" <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message

> > news:6877-395...@storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net...


> > > Guys,
> > > Seems like everyplace I move to there are plants that look unique as
> > > sprouts, so I water them to see what they will become. Some of them
are
> > > real bastids, like the "Goat Heads" they start out wih a pretty blue
> > > flower and spread with tentacles, but everywhere they send down a root
> > > they also build a goat head seed that has been known to puncture auto
> > > tires! Damn things were so prevalant a couple of years back that I
> > > tried to put booties on my dogs feet so they wouldn't try and run
three
> > > legged. Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my
> > > neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg
cause
>

pmartin

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Maps, do you have any broken bones? I want to
find a cold, but dry area to live in later on.
It hurts to much here now, later I'll be in bad shape.
Even parts of Alaska look good to me.
No humidity, I can't live in that.
Dry snow for X country and snowmobile.
I'd go nuts without snow.
X cross country is for my back to keep up an
internal girdle muscle. Do the twist like <G>
Need a Car loving area too. No PC place for me.
Dragstrip with in 25 miles is manditory.

"maps" <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message

dave gaither

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Jim Elbrecht wrote in message ...

>
>Hey-- we call Eupatorium Masculatum [and a few cousins] Joe Pie weed
>in NY.<g> It's purple, fluffy, 8 feet tall, and draws more bees than
>butterflies.


Jim
Yep, Sweet Joe Pye, herbaceous perennial here in Indiana. Named after Native
American who cured the New Englanders of typhus, used to induce fever
breakin' sweats. Aint nature grand! <G>
Dave


Ted Gittinger

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Bill Langston wrote in message <395AE454...@cei.net>...

>Right, it's the Butterfly Bush and the nectar does attract a wide
>variety of butterflies. We have planted them for years, great plants.
>
>Never had the honor to get stuck with a Goat-Head but I sure have been
>stuck with a ton of Sand-Spurs, we even used to pull the 'spurs' out
>with the stalk attached and throw them at each other. They stick real
>nice! (G)

Bill, that is spear grass and not grass spurs. You dare not pick up a grass
spur; there is no throwing one of those bastards.
>

Bill Langston

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Ha! You never been to Florida Ted? Wait till Chandler and Bob Sears see
this. What's a grass spur look like?

SF, Bill Langston.

Ted Gittinger

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Bill Langston wrote in message <395C008...@cei.net>...

>Ha! You never been to Florida Ted? Wait till Chandler and Bob Sears see
>this. What's a grass spur look like?
>
>SF, Bill Langston.

Well, in this part of paradise, a grass spur looks like an irregular ball
about the size of a kernel of pop corn, with eight or ten wicked spurs
distributed around its outside. The whole thing is maybe 3/8" around.
There was no way to pick one up without having it impale your fingers.
They are bad news, but not in the same ball park as goat heads.

As a youngster I left off wearing shoes in May, and did not resume until
October or so. All the kids in my area did the same, and we had soles like
shoe leather. Many times I have had stickers break off a prong in my bare
feet. My grandma would calmly say, "Well, it'll fester out."

That was what passed for home medicine, circa 1948. And it worked.


Bill Langston

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Yup Moke, that gotta be a milkweed. We have them by the ton areound here
which is why we have so many Monarchs too! (G) By the way, you can eat
those pods and flower heads before they open too. Gotta boil them in a
couple of waters tho, they turn as green as an emerald and taste a lot
like broccoli so I know President Bush would not have eaten them. (G)

SF, Bill Langston.

Mokieman wrote:

> maps <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21071-39...@storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > Guys,
> > Thanks for the responses! I live in northern Nevada, up against the
> > Sierra-Nevadas, home of the highest peak in the continental US, and just
> > up the road from the lowest dry point in the US. Obviously these
> > butterfly plants are somethig else, but I don't see them as bushes, each
> > plant grows from a single milky stem, and the flower starts out as a big
> > ball and turns into a buch of balls with soft white spikes protuding,
> > which it is right now with the two dancing butterflies. then the seed
> > pods begin to grow at the base of these, and finally pop open in the
> > late fall and repopigate with cotton puffs. Really a weird plant. So if
> > any of you want some of the seeds, email me your addy, and I'll mail em
> > to you!
> > Say, I believe that I have spelled the city in my sig line, anybody got
> > a dictionary? Mines packed up already....
> >
> > I love California; I practically grew up in Phenix! DQ
> > M
> >

CuchiD...@webtv.net

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[ Also have a yard full of lightning bugs. This seems a good year for
them. ]

Same here Al,they're everywhere around me.

pmartin

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I wonder why you have them, but here not for years ?
When I was a kid there were a million of them, also
no Red squrrials, just Gray ones.

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Bill Langston

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Har, harrr de har, har. Wait till ya gets shit on by a Pelican! (BSEG)

SF, Bill Langston.


"pmartin" <pma...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Al, its been so long since I seen one I can't say
> a thing about their flight. Just knew it was a chemical
> reaction, I think for mating, I'm not sure on that.
> Monacarks where here, never see them or 'butter milk'
> butter flies..jeeez..something is very wrong.
> Seagalls fly only over land...why ?
> When they shit on your car, you get BOMBED !
> Hell, its more like an Arc Light.

<clippered>

Bill Langston

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Good memories Ted. When I was a kid in Jacksonville, roughly the same time,
we used to walk to the school bus stop about a mile or less. Now we used to
go to school barefoot and when the weather got real hot the tar on the road
would actually get blisters on it, way to hot for even tough little feet.
Well, you guessed it, the sand on the side of the road was chock full of
Sand Spurs (just like you described them but with a different name). Talk
about being caught between a rock and a hard place! (G)

You are wrong though Ted, you can carefully pull one out with the stalk
attached. The little cluster of 'spurs' give just the right weight and
balance so when you fling it the thing travels spurs first like a little
tiny spear (or would that be a mace?) and they will stick to anything! Now,
you used to have BB-gun fights so what's the deal with the Sand Spurs?

Maybe that was a sign that I was growing up to be good Gyrene material! (G)

SF, Bill Langston.


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Bill Langston

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John, when I first bought my farm a bit over 22 years ago I started
bush-hogging the back pasture and there were patches of wild roses that were
so damn beautiful I just mowed around them so I could enjoy the beauty of
them. A neighbor of mine got the biggest laugh out of that cause I was
taking some pasture away from the cows. Shit, I said, what the hell good is
it making it ugly when it's so beautiful now. I still do that and I get the
benefit of 'eye candy' when I'm working in the back. Screw them, if I have
to live that way to make a living I don't want to do it.

SF, Bill Langston.


"JohnB" <timp...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Around these parts the butterfly plant is also so known as Joe Pye weed.
In
> the Fall, the monarchs migrate along the Appalachian mtns. This plant
> attracts them in numbers. I got a patch in my old pasture that I never mow
> down so I can enjoy them.

> John

<snip>

pmartin

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That be a NUKE then..huh...?

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Al Zeller

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Bob wrote:
>
> Bill;
> From my remembrances about what we called "Burrs" they were about 1/2"+ and
> looked like a ball with needle sharp spikes mixed in with velcro like hooks.
> They were real tough and sharp as hell. Dogs used to get loaded with them. You
> could pick them up and throw them but most times they stuck to your own hand
> and the points broke off. Get 'em in your hair and you had to dig out the
> scissors cause they were in to stay.
> Bob
Guess I'll have to stick with wait-a-minute vines.

Al

pmartin

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Guess the fur critters is moving East. I go to Canada and
buy soda pop, cheaper and no damn deposit on cans.
I laff at the Black Squrrials eating Big Donuts where they
toss them out. They are FAT ! Last time there were
six in a row eating chocolate donuts sitting on a dumpster.
Must be Police Squrrials. They did look me over kinda
funny.

"Bob" <Spit...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> JP;
> It must be cyclical. There are loads of reds in the Adirondacks and on LI
the
> blue jays are finally starting to come back after years of seeing none.
> Another that is returning is the robin. One thing we had way too much of
and
> still do wherever I've been is damn crows.
> Bob

pmartin

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Those were fun to have on your socks, itchy like hell.
Remember 100 yrs. ago when you were a kid ?

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Bill Langston

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Seeing that you are bound and determined to get back on topic Al,(G) I
spent all my tour in DaNang and don't remember seeing any lighting bugs
at night. Did you ever see any there?

SF, Bill Langston.

Bill Langston

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Thank God they are not those Special Forces Squirrials!!!!! Did ya get a
look at the nuts on those buggers?

SF, Bill Langston.

CuchiD...@webtv.net

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[ Last time there were six in a row eating chocolate donuts sitting on a
dumpster. Must be Police Squrrials. They did look me over kinda funny.]

They were profiling you,Perry.

CuchiD...@webtv.net

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[ Guess the fur critters is moving East. I go to Canada and buy soda
pop, cheaper and no damn deposit on cans.]

This reminds me,Wed. I delivered a framed map of historical buildings at
APG to our historical museum,to hang for the Assistant Secretary of the
Department of Defense's visit on Thursday.While waiting for someone,I
was looking at the displays.In addition to the historical stuff there's
a lot of wildlife displays of the taxidermy type,excellent work.Anyway
there was one about coyotes,in particular the Eastern coyote.It seems
the Western coyotes were driven up into Canada and then migrated back
down in the East.They think they interbred with wolves in Canada,as the
Eastern coyote averages about 40 -50 lbs as opposed to 30- 40 lbs for
the Western.They have been reported as large as 65 lbs. Also,the Eastern
coyote displays much more of a pack mentality which they attribute to
the wolf breeding. Off topic I know,but it's Perry's fault ! Of course
they might just be eating out of Dunkin' Donuts dumpsters which makes
them fatter,and the pack mentality could come from being surrounded by
liberal deer here.

maps

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Cuchi,
Out west here, the coyotes live well around the cities. Seems their
howls attract city dogs, whose owners let out at night, and as for the
pack mentality, its something defintely needed to catch those tasty
cats!

pmartin

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Yeah, what was it the 4th or chapter 44..think that it !
And the suka sings too ! Love those hand grenades on
his belt !

"Bill Langston" <l...@cei.net> wrote in message

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> Thank God they are not those Special Forces Squirrials!!!!! Did ya get a
> look at the nuts on those buggers?
>
> SF, Bill Langston.
>
>
>
> pmartin wrote:
> >

> > Guess the fur critters is moving East. I go to Canada and
> > buy soda pop, cheaper and no damn deposit on cans.

> > I laff at the Black Squrrials eating Big Donuts where they

> > toss them out. They are FAT ! Last time there were


> > six in a row eating chocolate donuts sitting on a dumpster.
> > Must be Police Squrrials. They did look me over kinda
> > funny.
> >

> > "Bob" <Spit...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:f2bpls09d6cbsbjva...@4ax.com...
> > > JP;
> > > It must be cyclical. There are loads of reds in the Adirondacks and
on LI
> > the
> > > blue jays are finally starting to come back after years of seeing
none.
> > > Another that is returning is the robin. One thing we had way too much
of
> > and
> > > still do wherever I've been is damn crows.
> > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:24:03 GMT, "pmartin" <pma...@adelphia.net>
wrote:
> > >
> > > >I wonder why you have them, but here not for years ?
> > > >When I was a kid there were a million of them, also
> > > >no Red squrrials, just Gray ones.
> > > >
> > > ><CuchiD...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:15396-39...@storefull-246.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > > >> [ Also have a yard full of lightning bugs. This seems a good year
for
> > > >> them. ]
> > > >>
> > > >> Same here Al,they're everywhere around me.
> > > >>

pmartin

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Don't drink anything when you look at the' Run in fear', URL
and turn up the speakers <G>

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> [ Last time there were six in a row eating chocolate donuts sitting on a
> dumpster. Must be Police Squrrials. They did look me over kinda funny.]
>
> They were profiling you,Perry.

Chandler Knowles

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Just wait until cows learn to fly!

--
Chandler Knowles
Pensacola, Florida


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Chandler Knowles

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Didn't they go BOOM when they landed?

--
Chandler Knowles
Pensacola, Florida

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maps

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You wore socks?

pmartin

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Muiti Warheads.....huh....?

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> Just wait until cows learn to fly!
>

> --
> Chandler Knowles
> Pensacola, Florida
> "Bill Langston" <l...@cei.net> wrote in message

pmartin

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Yep, and us Damn Yanqees went to school in SHOES !
Both ways.

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CuchiD...@webtv.net

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You wore shoes?

[You wore socks?]

I love California; I practically grew up in Phenix! DQ M

Live free or die ! Don't tread on me ! The cost of freedom is eternal
vigilance.


Chandler Knowles

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The coldest, driest place I have ever been was Billings, Montana. You'd
probably love their climate. I think it only warms up a little in July and
August.

--
Chandler Knowles
Pensacola, Florida

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> Maps, do you have any broken bones? I want to
> find a cold, but dry area to live in later on.
> It hurts to much here now, later I'll be in bad shape.
> Even parts of Alaska look good to me.
> No humidity, I can't live in that.
> Dry snow for X country and snowmobile.
> I'd go nuts without snow.
> X cross country is for my back to keep up an
> internal girdle muscle. Do the twist like <G>
> Need a Car loving area too. No PC place for me.
> Dragstrip with in 25 miles is manditory.


>
>
>
> "maps" <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message

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> > Guys,
> > Thanks for the responses! I live in northern Nevada, up against the
> > Sierra-Nevadas, home of the highest peak in the continental US, and just
> > up the road from the lowest dry point in the US. Obviously these
> > butterfly plants are somethig else, but I don't see them as bushes, each
> > plant grows from a single milky stem, and the flower starts out as a big
> > ball and turns into a buch of balls with soft white spikes protuding,
> > which it is right now with the two dancing butterflies. then the seed
> > pods begin to grow at the base of these, and finally pop open in the
> > late fall and repopigate with cotton puffs. Really a weird plant. So if
> > any of you want some of the seeds, email me your addy, and I'll mail em
> > to you!
> > Say, I believe that I have spelled the city in my sig line, anybody got
> > a dictionary? Mines packed up already....
> >

CuchiD...@webtv.net

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Cuchi,
[ Out west here, the coyotes live well around the cities. Seems their
howls attract city dogs, whose owners let out at night, and as for the
pack mentality, its something defintely needed to catch those tasty
cats! ]

Makes sense,what's PETA got to say about it? hehe Are they still
bitching about eating those rats on Survivor? I think they're all
vegetarians,not so much for diets sake,but because they worship the
animal kingdom,and don't want to cause them any pain.Maybe they can
convert the coyotes to carrots ! I hate to tell them,but my
father-in-law told me about a study done around 10 years ago,in which
the scientists had concluded that plants felt pain when they were cut,
must have been a government research grant. Anyway,that being the
case,how can the PETA people continue to chew on plants in good
conscience? You can eat bugs of course,but I'm sure they have feelings
too!
This isn't a slam on vegetarians who do it for dietary reasons, I know
it's probably a healthier diet in general and the American diet has too
much meat in it. I'm gonna go bite a burger,CYA! (I'm not talking fast
food burgers here, I don't consider them food)

Patrick T.

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On Sat, 01 Jul 2000 16:26:08 GMT, "Chandler Knowles"
<chandle...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:


I agree, he needs to look into Montanna or Boise, Idaho. Spokane is
kind of nice. Lots of attractions, close to everything you could ever
want in snow, a drag strip, a vet facility I am pretty sure.

Matter of fact, Spokane would be my recommendation for sure.

Al Zeller

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Bill Langston wrote:
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> Seeing that you are bound and determined to get back on topic Al,(G) I
> spent all my tour in DaNang and don't remember seeing any lighting bugs
> at night. Did you ever see any there?
>
> SF, Bill Langston.
>

Only fast moving green and red ones.

Al

Brandn Redd

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Bill Langston

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Har har, Al. How bout those real bright (1,000,000 candlepower) ones that
just went on and on and on. After Tet I saw a bunch of those.

SF, Bill Langston.


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>> what the bloody hell are you guys talkin about? this is a vietnam
discuss room <<

And it really hates that garish webtv HTML clown color stuff too.

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Bill Langston

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Yeah, didn't ya just love that red text on black background. Maybe it's okay
for 16 year old eyes but it made mine hurt! (G)

Bill Langston.


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Fuck Off. Eat Shit. and DIE

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Don Thompson
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Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air.
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> what the bloody hell are you guys talkin about? this is a vietnam
> discuss room
>
>


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Don Thompson

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Try Denver area.Only gets hot in the daytime.Dry. Average hummididdy is 15%
snow is not too bad usually melts off in a few days.

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Don Thompson
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ACA#3460
TLCB#335
Any Time, Any Place

Pull the chocks, lets get this kite in the air.

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