M
"maps" <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Three-pronged "goat-head" stickers were the bane of my young ball-playing
existence in San Antonio. Very sharp, very tough, the only sticker that my
barefoot Mexican-American playmates respected.
We had a gound rule in fast-pitch softball sandlot games: If a batted ball
goes in the goat-head patch, it is a ground rule double. Nobody in his
right mind would try to pick that ball up and make a quick throw to an
infielder.
[ Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my
neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg cause
I have never seen any butterflies around them. I came home from work
the other day to feed my dogs and there were two hugh yellow and black
bfs dancing in my driveway! As I watched them, they would once in a
while fly over to the plants and land and stick their tentacles into the
flowers. Now, do any of you guys know what this plant is really called,
and is there a market for them? ]
In Texas a plant called a butterfly bush is a standard mail-order item. I
have no experience with them personally.
And that thingy ain't a tentacle; it's a feeding tube which corresponds to a
tongue in other critters.
[Saw them again this morning, (the
butterflies) one has a wingspan of over six inches and has a area at
the bottom of each wing that is brilliant blue.]
Where in heaven's name do you live? Brazil? I haven't seen butterflies
such as you describe, outside of a museum, in my lifetime.
[and I
know I need not remind you that storytellers are valued in any society.]
Not all of them, I fear.
Check that; not all of them, I trust.
Warm regards,
teodoro
el sin verguenza
M
pmartin wrote:
>
> Odd Marc, we were talking here how we see no more
> Butterflys or Lightning bugs. Almost never see them now.
> I've not seen a Lightning bug in years, as a kid we put them
> in bottles. Amazing things.
>
> "maps" <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:6877-395...@storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > Guys,
> > Seems like everyplace I move to there are plants that look unique as
> > sprouts, so I water them to see what they will become. Some of them are
> > real bastids, like the "Goat Heads" they start out wih a pretty blue
> > flower and spread with tentacles, but everywhere they send down a root
> > they also build a goat head seed that has been known to puncture auto
> > tires! Damn things were so prevalant a couple of years back that I
> > tried to put booties on my dogs feet so they wouldn't try and run three
> > legged. Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my
> > neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg cause
They're called butterfly bushes. Got one growing in my backyard, altho
my wife, the gardner, says it needs more sun.
Also have a yard full of lightning bugs. This seems a good year for
them. Ever notice that they only light up in vertical flight, not when
they are flying level?
Al
I think I've heard about this one.My bigger half would know,but she's
snoring,and I don't want to interrupt her rythm too suddenly,as such an
abrupt halt might cause the vibrating windowpanes to just disintegrate
into tiny pieces. I hate cleaing up broken glass.Besides,the silence
would be deafening,and I already have hearing loss.
Live free or die ! Don't tread on me ! The cost of freedom is eternal
vigilance.
Never had the honor to get stuck with a Goat-Head but I sure have been
stuck with a ton of Sand-Spurs, we even used to pull the 'spurs' out
with the stalk attached and throw them at each other. They stick real
nice! (G)
Is that feeding tube not called a proboscis or something to that effect?
SF, Bill Langston.
Ted Gittinger wrote:
>
> maps wrote in message
> <6877-395...@storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
> Guys,
> Seems like everyplace I move to there are plants that look unique as
> sprouts, so I water them to see what they will become. Some of them are
> real bastids, like the "Goat Heads" they start out wih a pretty blue
> flower and spread with tentacles, but everywhere they send down a root
> they also build a goat head seed that has been known to puncture auto
> tires! Damn things were so prevalant a couple of years back that I
> tried to put booties on my dogs feet so they wouldn't try and run three
> legged.
>
> Three-pronged "goat-head" stickers were the bane of my young ball-playing
> existence in San Antonio. Very sharp, very tough, the only sticker that my
> barefoot Mexican-American playmates respected.
>
> We had a gound rule in fast-pitch softball sandlot games: If a batted ball
> goes in the goat-head patch, it is a ground rule double. Nobody in his
> right mind would try to pick that ball up and make a quick throw to an
> infielder.
>
> [ Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my
> neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg cause
> I have never seen any butterflies around them. I came home from work
> the other day to feed my dogs and there were two hugh yellow and black
> bfs dancing in my driveway! As I watched them, they would once in a
> while fly over to the plants and land and stick their tentacles into the
> flowers. Now, do any of you guys know what this plant is really called,
> and is there a market for them? ]
>
> In Texas a plant called a butterfly bush is a standard mail-order item. I
> have no experience with them personally.
>
> And that thingy ain't a tentacle; it's a feeding tube which corresponds to a
> tongue in other critters.
>
> [Saw them again this morning, (the
> butterflies) one has a wingspan of over six inches and has a area at
maps wrote:
> Guys,
> Seems like everyplace I move to there are plants that look unique as
> sprouts, so I water them to see what they will become. Some of them are
> real bastids, like the "Goat Heads" they start out wih a pretty blue
> flower and spread with tentacles, but everywhere they send down a root
> they also build a goat head seed that has been known to puncture auto
> tires! Damn things were so prevalant a couple of years back that I
> tried to put booties on my dogs feet so they wouldn't try and run three
> legged. Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my
> neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg cause
> I have never seen any butterflies around them. I came home from work
> the other day to feed my dogs and there were two hugh yellow and black
> bfs dancing in my driveway! As I watched them, they would once in a
> while fly over to the plants and land and stick their tentacles into the
> flowers. Now, do any of you guys know what this plant is really called,
> and is there a market for them? I remember as a child, way back in the
> Eisenhower years, collecting the dried out seed pods and making xmas
> tree decorations out of them. Saw them again this morning, (the
> butterflies) one has a wingspan of over six inches and has a area at
> the bottom of each wing that is brilliant blue.
> Would it be too much to ask you to explain the sites in your own words,
> that I think you might find? Of course the links would be fine too, but
> the best way for all of us to grow is to learn insightfullness... and I
> know I need not remind you that storytellers are valued in any society.
>
> M
I love California; I practically grew up in Phenix! DQ
M
Your plant sounds like Asclepiadaceae Tuberosa, aka orange milkweed aka
butterfly weed. (Britannica, under "milkweed.")
>Around these parts the butterfly plant is also so known as Joe Pye weed. In
>the Fall, the monarchs migrate along the Appalachian mtns. This plant
>attracts them in numbers. I got a patch in my old pasture that I never mow
>down so I can enjoy them.
Hey-- we call Eupatorium Masculatum [and a few cousins] Joe Pie weed
in NY.<g> It's purple, fluffy, 8 feet tall, and draws more bees than
butterflies.
jim
[who's falling in with those who think Maps has a Butterfly Weed of
the milkweed family.]
"Al Zeller" <zel...@nscl.msu.edu> wrote in message
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>
>
> pmartin wrote:
> >
> > Odd Marc, we were talking here how we see no more
> > Butterflys or Lightning bugs. Almost never see them now.
> > I've not seen a Lightning bug in years, as a kid we put them
> > in bottles. Amazing things.
> >
> > "maps" <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:6877-395...@storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > > Guys,
> > > Seems like everyplace I move to there are plants that look unique as
> > > sprouts, so I water them to see what they will become. Some of them
are
> > > real bastids, like the "Goat Heads" they start out wih a pretty blue
> > > flower and spread with tentacles, but everywhere they send down a root
> > > they also build a goat head seed that has been known to puncture auto
> > > tires! Damn things were so prevalant a couple of years back that I
> > > tried to put booties on my dogs feet so they wouldn't try and run
three
> > > legged. Well, three years ago, I started to water a plant that my
> > > neighbor called a butterfly bush, I thought she was pulling my leg
cause
>
"maps" <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
Jim
Yep, Sweet Joe Pye, herbaceous perennial here in Indiana. Named after Native
American who cured the New Englanders of typhus, used to induce fever
breakin' sweats. Aint nature grand! <G>
Dave
Bill, that is spear grass and not grass spurs. You dare not pick up a grass
spur; there is no throwing one of those bastards.
>
SF, Bill Langston.
Well, in this part of paradise, a grass spur looks like an irregular ball
about the size of a kernel of pop corn, with eight or ten wicked spurs
distributed around its outside. The whole thing is maybe 3/8" around.
There was no way to pick one up without having it impale your fingers.
They are bad news, but not in the same ball park as goat heads.
As a youngster I left off wearing shoes in May, and did not resume until
October or so. All the kids in my area did the same, and we had soles like
shoe leather. Many times I have had stickers break off a prong in my bare
feet. My grandma would calmly say, "Well, it'll fester out."
That was what passed for home medicine, circa 1948. And it worked.
SF, Bill Langston.
Mokieman wrote:
> maps <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21071-39...@storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > Guys,
> > Thanks for the responses! I live in northern Nevada, up against the
> > Sierra-Nevadas, home of the highest peak in the continental US, and just
> > up the road from the lowest dry point in the US. Obviously these
> > butterfly plants are somethig else, but I don't see them as bushes, each
> > plant grows from a single milky stem, and the flower starts out as a big
> > ball and turns into a buch of balls with soft white spikes protuding,
> > which it is right now with the two dancing butterflies. then the seed
> > pods begin to grow at the base of these, and finally pop open in the
> > late fall and repopigate with cotton puffs. Really a weird plant. So if
> > any of you want some of the seeds, email me your addy, and I'll mail em
> > to you!
> > Say, I believe that I have spelled the city in my sig line, anybody got
> > a dictionary? Mines packed up already....
> >
> > I love California; I practically grew up in Phenix! DQ
> > M
> >
Same here Al,they're everywhere around me.
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SF, Bill Langston.
"pmartin" <pma...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Al, its been so long since I seen one I can't say
> a thing about their flight. Just knew it was a chemical
> reaction, I think for mating, I'm not sure on that.
> Monacarks where here, never see them or 'butter milk'
> butter flies..jeeez..something is very wrong.
> Seagalls fly only over land...why ?
> When they shit on your car, you get BOMBED !
> Hell, its more like an Arc Light.
<clippered>
You are wrong though Ted, you can carefully pull one out with the stalk
attached. The little cluster of 'spurs' give just the right weight and
balance so when you fling it the thing travels spurs first like a little
tiny spear (or would that be a mace?) and they will stick to anything! Now,
you used to have BB-gun fights so what's the deal with the Sand Spurs?
Maybe that was a sign that I was growing up to be good Gyrene material! (G)
SF, Bill Langston.
"Ted Gittinger" <te...@jump.net> wrote in message
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SF, Bill Langston.
"JohnB" <timp...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Around these parts the butterfly plant is also so known as Joe Pye weed.
In
> the Fall, the monarchs migrate along the Appalachian mtns. This plant
> attracts them in numbers. I got a patch in my old pasture that I never mow
> down so I can enjoy them.
> John
<snip>
"Bill Langston" <l...@cei.net> wrote in message
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Bob wrote:
>
> Bill;
> From my remembrances about what we called "Burrs" they were about 1/2"+ and
> looked like a ball with needle sharp spikes mixed in with velcro like hooks.
> They were real tough and sharp as hell. Dogs used to get loaded with them. You
> could pick them up and throw them but most times they stuck to your own hand
> and the points broke off. Get 'em in your hair and you had to dig out the
> scissors cause they were in to stay.
> Bob
Guess I'll have to stick with wait-a-minute vines.
Al
"Bob" <Spit...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> JP;
> It must be cyclical. There are loads of reds in the Adirondacks and on LI
the
> blue jays are finally starting to come back after years of seeing none.
> Another that is returning is the robin. One thing we had way too much of
and
> still do wherever I've been is damn crows.
> Bob
"Al Zeller" <zel...@nscl.msu.edu> wrote in message
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SF, Bill Langston.
SF, Bill Langston.
They were profiling you,Perry.
This reminds me,Wed. I delivered a framed map of historical buildings at
APG to our historical museum,to hang for the Assistant Secretary of the
Department of Defense's visit on Thursday.While waiting for someone,I
was looking at the displays.In addition to the historical stuff there's
a lot of wildlife displays of the taxidermy type,excellent work.Anyway
there was one about coyotes,in particular the Eastern coyote.It seems
the Western coyotes were driven up into Canada and then migrated back
down in the East.They think they interbred with wolves in Canada,as the
Eastern coyote averages about 40 -50 lbs as opposed to 30- 40 lbs for
the Western.They have been reported as large as 65 lbs. Also,the Eastern
coyote displays much more of a pack mentality which they attribute to
the wolf breeding. Off topic I know,but it's Perry's fault ! Of course
they might just be eating out of Dunkin' Donuts dumpsters which makes
them fatter,and the pack mentality could come from being surrounded by
liberal deer here.
"Bill Langston" <l...@cei.net> wrote in message
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> Thank God they are not those Special Forces Squirrials!!!!! Did ya get a
> look at the nuts on those buggers?
>
> SF, Bill Langston.
>
>
>
> pmartin wrote:
> >
> > Guess the fur critters is moving East. I go to Canada and
> > buy soda pop, cheaper and no damn deposit on cans.
> > I laff at the Black Squrrials eating Big Donuts where they
> > toss them out. They are FAT ! Last time there were
> > six in a row eating chocolate donuts sitting on a dumpster.
> > Must be Police Squrrials. They did look me over kinda
> > funny.
> >
> > "Bob" <Spit...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:f2bpls09d6cbsbjva...@4ax.com...
> > > JP;
> > > It must be cyclical. There are loads of reds in the Adirondacks and
on LI
> > the
> > > blue jays are finally starting to come back after years of seeing
none.
> > > Another that is returning is the robin. One thing we had way too much
of
> > and
> > > still do wherever I've been is damn crows.
> > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:24:03 GMT, "pmartin" <pma...@adelphia.net>
wrote:
> > >
> > > >I wonder why you have them, but here not for years ?
> > > >When I was a kid there were a million of them, also
> > > >no Red squrrials, just Gray ones.
> > > >
> > > ><CuchiD...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:15396-39...@storefull-246.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > > >> [ Also have a yard full of lightning bugs. This seems a good year
for
> > > >> them. ]
> > > >>
> > > >> Same here Al,they're everywhere around me.
> > > >>
<CuchiD...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> [ Last time there were six in a row eating chocolate donuts sitting on a
> dumpster. Must be Police Squrrials. They did look me over kinda funny.]
>
> They were profiling you,Perry.
--
Chandler Knowles
Pensacola, Florida
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--
Chandler Knowles
Pensacola, Florida
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"Chandler Knowles" <chandle...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Just wait until cows learn to fly!
>
> --
> Chandler Knowles
> Pensacola, Florida
> "Bill Langston" <l...@cei.net> wrote in message
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[You wore socks?]
I love California; I practically grew up in Phenix! DQ M
Live free or die ! Don't tread on me ! The cost of freedom is eternal
vigilance.
--
Chandler Knowles
Pensacola, Florida
"pmartin" <pma...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Maps, do you have any broken bones? I want to
> find a cold, but dry area to live in later on.
> It hurts to much here now, later I'll be in bad shape.
> Even parts of Alaska look good to me.
> No humidity, I can't live in that.
> Dry snow for X country and snowmobile.
> I'd go nuts without snow.
> X cross country is for my back to keep up an
> internal girdle muscle. Do the twist like <G>
> Need a Car loving area too. No PC place for me.
> Dragstrip with in 25 miles is manditory.
>
>
>
> "maps" <marcu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:21071-39...@storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> > Guys,
> > Thanks for the responses! I live in northern Nevada, up against the
> > Sierra-Nevadas, home of the highest peak in the continental US, and just
> > up the road from the lowest dry point in the US. Obviously these
> > butterfly plants are somethig else, but I don't see them as bushes, each
> > plant grows from a single milky stem, and the flower starts out as a big
> > ball and turns into a buch of balls with soft white spikes protuding,
> > which it is right now with the two dancing butterflies. then the seed
> > pods begin to grow at the base of these, and finally pop open in the
> > late fall and repopigate with cotton puffs. Really a weird plant. So if
> > any of you want some of the seeds, email me your addy, and I'll mail em
> > to you!
> > Say, I believe that I have spelled the city in my sig line, anybody got
> > a dictionary? Mines packed up already....
> >
Makes sense,what's PETA got to say about it? hehe Are they still
bitching about eating those rats on Survivor? I think they're all
vegetarians,not so much for diets sake,but because they worship the
animal kingdom,and don't want to cause them any pain.Maybe they can
convert the coyotes to carrots ! I hate to tell them,but my
father-in-law told me about a study done around 10 years ago,in which
the scientists had concluded that plants felt pain when they were cut,
must have been a government research grant. Anyway,that being the
case,how can the PETA people continue to chew on plants in good
conscience? You can eat bugs of course,but I'm sure they have feelings
too!
This isn't a slam on vegetarians who do it for dietary reasons, I know
it's probably a healthier diet in general and the American diet has too
much meat in it. I'm gonna go bite a burger,CYA! (I'm not talking fast
food burgers here, I don't consider them food)
I agree, he needs to look into Montanna or Boise, Idaho. Spokane is
kind of nice. Lots of attractions, close to everything you could ever
want in snow, a drag strip, a vet facility I am pretty sure.
Matter of fact, Spokane would be my recommendation for sure.
Bill Langston wrote:
>
> Seeing that you are bound and determined to get back on topic Al,(G) I
> spent all my tour in DaNang and don't remember seeing any lighting bugs
> at night. Did you ever see any there?
>
> SF, Bill Langston.
>
Only fast moving green and red ones.
Al
SF, Bill Langston.
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And it really hates that garish webtv HTML clown color stuff too.
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!N3
Bill Langston.
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> what the bloody hell are you guys talkin about? this is a vietnam
> discuss room
>
>
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