VIETNAM REARMED ONLY FOR DEFENSIVE PURPOSE NOT FOR THREATENING CHINA MR LEE
El Chino
readership in the hundreds of thousands. It stated clearly the
rearming of the Vietnamese Armed forces is defensive in nature and not
threatening anybody in the region.
Vietnam like Japan at Sengaku has legitimate interest in the Hoang Sa
(Paracelses) and Truong Sa (Spratley) Archipelago that a superpower-to-
be can not disregard especially if this interest of Vietnam for a
legitimate share of these Archipelago was recognized by several
negotiation with and statements from China as legitimate according to
International Laws.
China is 20 times larger than Vietnam in Population and 30 times
richer than Vietnam in GDP but it has some inherent internal weakness
like revolt of minorities under Chinese yoke in Sin Kiang, Tibet and
Mongolia, it has contradiction between the developed coastal area and
the poor internal continental area with 100 millions of chinks on the
move to look for job.
A War with Vietnam will signify the break up of the Chinese Empire
like the war in Afghanistan signified the break up of the Soviet
Empire or the War of Vietnam, in Iraq and Afghanistan are precursors
to the decline of an US Imperial power.
China now ior for a long time to come is like the Tsin Empire under
Tsin Tsuy Hang Ti. It reached its apogee around the end of the 2nd
century BC but was rapidly destroyed by Liu Bang and Hang Wu
Don’t under estimate Vietnam with her toys submarines Mr Lee. They
might kill the Chinese Dragon.
Remember the lesson of 1979 ???
( Article in reference)Vietnam’s efforts to bolster its military
strength go hand in hand with the peaceful diplomatic approach it
consistently adopts for resolving international disputes, a senior
military official has said.
Peacetime would be the best moment for the country to build up its
military to guarantee its security, said General Le Van Dung, chief of
the People’s Army’s Political General Bureau, clarifying it is not for
war purposes.
“Our biggest challenge at the moment is to develop a high-caliber,
modern, well-trained military,” Dung told the media Monday on the
sidelines of celebrations to mark the 65th anniversary of the People’s
Army.
“We have to do this to fulfill the task of protecting the country in
case of any upheaval,” he said.
But he shrugged off concerns that Vietnam would be involved in any
major wars during the next two decades.
The modernization of the military would go along with economic
development, he said, pointing out that the better the economy
performs, the better the conditions would be to improve the military
and national defense.
Last year, the defense budget was VND27 trillion (US$1.46 billion), or
1.8 percent of the gross domestic product, according to a White Paper
released on December 8.
“Our military is being modernized with a lot of advanced weaponry,
some of which can equal the very best in the world,” Dung said.
Recent visits by senior Vietnamese officials to several countries have
focused on reinforcing military ties with them as the White Paper
stresses international cooperation, he explained.
“There are no grounds to say that Vietnam plays off one country
against another. The international community must understand one
another in terms of military and national defense to contribute to
stabilizing peace in the region and the world.”
Peaceful diplomacy
Defense Minister Phung Quang Thanh visited France on December 17 where
he asked his counterpart Herve Morin to help Vietnam train its army
medical personnel and sell helicopters, transport aircraft, and other
modern military equipment.
He traveled to France from the US, where he held talks with Defense
Secretary Robert Gates.
On December 15, Vietnam and Russia signed a long-planned arms deal
during a visit by Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung to Moscow.
Russia's Interfax news agency reported that Vietnam had agreed to buy
six ultra-quiet Kilo-class diesel-electric submarines for around $2
billion.
The fact that Vietnam is seeking to bolster military ties with other
countries signals the country’s emergence as a major power in the
region but the move would not compromise its commitment to peaceful
diplomacy, some international experts have said.
“Buying or possessing military equipment does not negate diplomacy; in
some cases it can run parallel and complement it,” Richard Bitzinger,
Senior Fellow at the Rajaratnam School of International Studies in
Singapore, told Thanh Nien Weekly.
‘Any way possible’
General Dung also told the media on Monday that during his recent
visit to China the two sides had discussed solutions to the East Sea
issues.
“We have tried to resolve in whatever way possible to settle the
issues. In the near future we will discuss with the Chinese on
demarcation of maritime boundaries between the two countries and I am
convinced the situation will gradually become stable.”
Carl Thayer of the Australian Defense Force Academy told Thanh Nien
Weekly that Vietnam should try to take advantage of its roles in the
ASEAN and the United Nations Security Council to find a solution.
In 1995, China declared that the settlement of territorial disputes in
the East Sea would be on the basis of the UN Convention on the Law of
the Sea and international law, leading to protracted negotiations on a
Declaration on Conduct of Parties in the [East] Sea in 2002.
“This was seen as the first step toward a more legally binding Code of
Conduct,” Thayer said.
“Now that Vietnam will chair ASEAN it would be useful to revive this
initiative and engage China on discussions on a Code of Conduct.
“China prefers to deal with this issue on a bilateral level; but China
will also respond to ASEAN if it can present a united front. A
coordinated ASEAN approach would increase pressure on China to act
less assertively.”
Given the international prestige Vietnam has attained as a
nonpermanent member and rotating president of the UN Security Council,
it can also lobby friendly states on this issue to increase diplomatic
pressure on China to be more restrained, Thayer said.
Destin Lee
submarine toys,
then pretending to say no. Talking about international law? Stop BS
dude, your Vietnamese
never respect any law.
Your Vietnamese have no legitimate land. Paracelses and Spratley
belong to China, and
current South Vietnam too is part of China. Chinese fishermen
discovered that land many
thousand years ago.
đâu do
ha! china is only paper tiger! chairman mao said so remember!? the
Vietcong (and el is on of them!) is going to kick all your teeth off
soon enough! the VC always says one thing to let you lower your guard
then, bang, they do the opposite,.. always! but no matter how well you
prepare, all your teeth will be gone: how do you compare your Chinese
with the American and the French, huh?! and look what happenned?!..
and remember: the vc did that with your Chinese weapon!.. lisewise, el
and his vcs will do again!.. if you live somewhere in kwangton or
kwangxi, a piece advice, get your emergency ration ready and start
walking to Mongolia! you have no time left! get agoing, paperman!...
dd
Destin Lee
Mao is dead. We haven't started yet. Your tiny land will be smashed
with a few missles.
South Vietnam will come back to the rightful owner, China.
You Vietnamese need boats like Elchino to live.
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El Chino
Dear Mr Lee:
I don’t debate with Political monomaniacs which I can detect by
guessing right most or all of their responses to a series of
political events. As such You might not qualify as a monomaniac
because I only guess right 50% of your responses.
You condemned the execution or possible execution of the 12 Uighur
refugees from China and deported by Cambodia as an act of barbarity
unworthy of a superpower-to-be if China were to execute them which I
concur with . Also I rated as reasonable but with which I do not 100%
agree with was your assessment that Mr Thaksin might be popular with
quite a few Cambodians or your assertion that Mr Hunsen is only
popular with pro Vietnamese Cambodian puppets
Reasonability doesn’t mean veracity or accuracy because there are
issues that reasonable and educated people might disagree.
I like then to ask you two questions:
1)If the 6 Kilo class Submarines the Vietkong bought from Russia are
toys worthy only to be put in swimming pools to amuse children
implying that they woud be sunk by the Chinese Navy then why the
Chinese Military also bought 10 identical Kilo Class submarines from
the Russians ?
2)If demanding by pressure or briberies that Cambodia returned the 12
Uighur Refugees to be executed is an act of barbarity then was the
act of shooting at unarmed Vietnames fishermen who were fishing for
their livelihood, like their forefathers had done before them for
centuries, in an area claimed both by Vietnam and China is also an
act of barbarity, especially the act of shooting and ransoming were
done on Vietnamese Fishing Boats and Crews who were looking for safe
haven to escape hurricanes ?
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đâu do
> Oh yeahh snob braggart dau du,
> Mao is dead. We haven't started yet. Your tiny land will be smashed
> with a few missles.
> South Vietnam will come back to the rightful owner, China.
> You Vietnamese need boats like Elchino to live.
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desperate lee, you are imbécile! just like your Chinese people! never
have any backbones, only nato (no action, talk only!); how many years
you wring your fist at Taiwan? how many years you waited for the
Portuguese to return Macao, the British to return HongKong?.. remember
the Jin, the Mongols, the Manchu, the Hung,..! you Chinese always
complaint that the Jin, the Mongols, the Manchu, the Hung, etc,..
were cruel to you Chinese people. those are Northern barbarians --as
you call them; but you forget the Nan-man, yes, those are the Southern
savages Viet! you ain't seen nothing yet bebe!.. the VCP always has
the tendency to fight dirty, and to the last Vietnamese, so you need
more than a few missles, and make sure you aim a few right at Ba
Dinh!... have your diapers ready before you press that button
though!.. dd
ps. forget that elChino, he's an idiot, his name says it all!
Hatjman Hunsen , mafia Boss of Cambodia
except in Cambodia .
Destin Lee
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and resorting to cursing?
It makes you looklike a very savage and barbaric Viet. Your Vietnamese
fit with that savage and barbaric group.
Destin Lee
to talk about. They were the butchers and the thieves just like G.
Khan.
On 30 déc, 23:22, "Hatjman Hunsen , mafia Boss of Cambodia"
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đâu do
what do you expect from an 'elChino'! a tortilla Chinese!? he
shamelessly carries that pittiful name for so many years and seemingly
so proud of it. and doyouknow what the translation in French: le
chinois! and you do know what that mean don't you?!.. spineless!
desperado lee!
đâu do
the thing is it's not whether the Jin, the Mongols, the Manchu, the
Japanese, or even the Vietcongs are barbarians or sauvages! the
important matter is the spineless Chinese still hanging the butcher of
30 millions of their own Chinese people in Tienanmen square! 30
millions is 20 times the whole population of Cambodia at the time of
Polpol's killing field, mind you!... the thing with you Chinese people
is that you are not only cowards but bullies as well -- I suppose
those two go together! you are cowards to those who can beat you up,
and then turn around bully your own people who doesn't have a piece of
metal in their hands --the Chinese peasants, the Urghirs, the
Tibetians,.. how couragerous!...
and you know why those 30 millions Chinese people starved to death!..
the Vietcongs conned Mao into taking away the meager food of those
poor peasants and giving that to the Vietcongs so they could fight
those pigs, capitalists, imperialists, Americans to the last
Vietnamese!.. --and guess what, 30 years later, those ugly pigs
capitalists imperialists colonialist exploitationalist,.. are red
carpeted, welcomed all over... the Vietcongs --Ho and Dong-- conned
Mao with the promise of giving two bird-dropings islands in the South
Sea!.. 35 years after the war over, they want them back! and of
course, you better give them back! Why? because you have no other
choices! get it, babe!.. desperado lee!..
đâu do
ha!.. defensive is not in Vietnamese lexion despited Lee! if it is,
the Cham kingdom still exists, south vn still belongs to the Kmer, or
a Chinese outpost, highland vn still belongs to Laos, north vn's still
a Chinese colony,.. from a few tribes of Montagnards at the foot of
Anamite Ranges, they beat the Chinese off north vn, overtaken the
Chams, pushed the Khmer and the Laos westwards, and continue to do
so...
defensive must be the code word for Chinese. look at that Great Wall
the Chinese are so proud of! what it is but a wall to protect them
from the maurading North --to no avail! defensive has eaten into
Chinese psyche; they are happy if only being left along --to no
avail!.. now they want to go to the South Sea, to Africa,.. they never
learn: they only run back to China with their bloody heads and tails
beeween their legs!...
get that, desperado Lee!
dd
Destin Lee
Have you signed petition yet? Hurry little frog dudu.
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-vietnam.html
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you don't get it, do you desperately despisedly ignorantly ignonimous
Lee?!..
that-the petition- is what they call the-crying-wolf laugh at you
clumsy Chinese! the Vietcongs do that all the time; on one hand they
rob and pillage, at the other, they yell and cry wolf-wolf!.. that was
how they won the war with the American! --certainly not with those
primitive Chinese weapons... but you don't know these antics and other
things, do you!?...
i heard that the 'little frog' is the nickname for Deng Xiaoping; the
guy who people only remembering for his 'black cat, white cat'...
'doesn't matter which color the cat is, as long as it catch mice.'...
perhaps you know that by heart along with all those bs the Chinese
commies have fed you since you were born! and you are just verbotenly
repeating the bs party line --just like that despicable elChino
repeats his!..
and you know what Deng's cat has caught... the ugly capitalist
imperialist American got what they wanted for sure and more... the
cheap Chinese labors and a market for their raw materials and goods
without a shot! As a bonus, they also get Chinese money --in those
Treasury bonds, the saving money that all those slave Chinese workers
toiling in those sweatshops!.. the money that those desperate people
need for their basic neccesities, and that they have to do without...
instead, the ccp stupidly gave it away to the American in the so-
called 'investments', and willing to give more for the American Health
Care coming up!.. perhaps you poor Chinese get back your 'investments'
in 99 years (just like Hongkong & Macao!) with 10č on a dollar!.. In
return, what do you Chinese get: polluted air and lands and waters!
your ccp has ravaged the forests, dammed and polluted all rivers, sea
coasts; contaminated food producing field and farms, put tons of
polutants in the air,.. what a wonderful cat that is...
say, in the past 1000 years, how many years could you Chinese governed
yourself ? 200-300 years out of the duration?.. the Jin, the Mongols,
the Manchu, and then the British, the German, the French, the
Japanese,.. and then the Commies. --China is really the punching bag
of the word! however, the worse are the Commies! by some estimate, the
Reds have exploited China resources in its 60 years in existence than
the whole previous periods combined!.. and you think that the Reds
bring dignity back to China?! far from it! remember those Olympic
protests around the world recently?! in no time in history, China has
discords with all her neighbors! look around, China has no respect, no
friends!..
but i suppose stupidity is heritary; you think that put a man in a tin
can and shot him up into the earth's orbit brings you prestiges? or
organised the biggest Olympic? or taking over all the mines in Africa,
or all the barren islets in South China Sea?.. No. It's in your
people, the ordinary Chinese, in China!.. treat them right, taking
care of them! and then be at peace with your neighbors,.. if you
don't, China is only a giant with clay feet! dd
Hatjman Hunsen , mafia Boss of Cambodia
El Chino might be a Chinese from Cuba .
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Hatjman Hunsen , mafia Boss of Cambodia
Chinese are always cheating and lying .
if you treat the Chinese right , Chinese would take over
Malaysia , Indonesia , Thailand and the Philippines .
Chinese are preparing to take East Shan State of Myanmar .