Bogus 'Hero' dies...
Dai Uy
"My motives were not meant to harm or dishonor those who have
fought and bled for this country. My motives were quite personal and
at times painful." He added, "Living this daily lie was born out of a
tragic need to be someone people looked up to and admired."
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X-URL: http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_13792225 or
http://tinyurl.com/yg5razv
`Hero' was snared in ribbons of deception
Posted: 11/14/2009 08:33:46 PM PST
Updated: 11/14/2009 11:04:08 PM PST
David L.C. David, who for years deceived the Long Beach community into
thinking he was a Vietnam war hero, has died in Arizona.
Acquaintances say the man who posed as a highly decorated Navy SEAL
succumbed to cancer Oct. 22 in Tucson. Before moving there about 10
years ago, it had been his practice to appear at dinners and other
military-related events in a uniform laden with decorations. But in
2000, when several veterans organizations began questioning his
background, David admitted he was an impostor.
"I wanted to be accepted so bad as somebody," he once told me while
tearfully explaining his deception, which included his claim of having
served six years in Vietnam combat.
The decorations he said he had received included the Navy Cross, the
Navy's highest decoration; the Silver Star; six Bronze Stars; and six
Purple Hearts.
"We had a short discussion on David David recently in my Vietnam
combat veterans group," says Steve Pennington of Long Beach. "As you
could imagine, no one was very happy with David's years of BS." He
added, "The shame of the entire deal is that David was very active in
community service. But all of that wasn't enough for him and was even
overshadowed by his charade."
Pennington says he and David became friends while working together as
volunteers on Long Beach's Committee of 300 and on the annual Stand
Down for homeless veterans.
Larry Nelson, another Long Beach veteran who served in Vietnam and
later befriended David, said the impostor never spoke with him about
Vietnam, knowing Nelson had been there and might recognize some of his
untruths. Nelson and David were also Stand Down volunteers, and they
knew each other for about 10 years. There was something about David's
stories that did not ring right to Nelson.
"Through all those years," he says, "I kept telling everybody he was a
phony."
At Stand Down, says Nelson, David always had the limelight because of
his decorations. "He really enjoyed that." For all that, Nelson came
to know David as "a nice guy who liked to party."
At the time David was outed, Gus Hein, who chaired the Stand Down
program, gave him a different profile. "He'd spent nights at Stand
Down," said Hein. He was an extremely reliable, conscientious
volunteer."
After the story of his alleged heroism came undone, David sent this
Internet message to selected acquaintances in the Long Beach area: "I
want to sincerely apologize for my past actions regarding the gross
misrepresentation of my past military service," he said. "My motives
were not meant to harm or dishonor those who have fought and bled for
this country. My motives were quite personal and at times painful." He
added, "Living this daily lie was born out of a tragic need to be
someone people looked up to and admired."
Some veterans accepted his apology, others refused to do so, and said
he was guilty of what many veterans, plus the courts, refer to as
"stolen valor."
Story falls apart
Revelations about David came to light when Jim Wade, a Stand Down
volunteer who published a newsletter for veterans, set out to organize
a written tribute to David. Appealing to other veterans for
information about him, Wade receive numerous responses. But not the
kind he had anticipated. "The man is a notorious phony SEAL," said
Steve Waterman, a ex-SEAL living in South Thomaston, Maine.
"This guy is a 100 percent fake," said Todd Willebrand, then assistant
public affairs officer for the Naval Special Warfare Command in San
Diego.
Retired Navy Capt. Larry Bailey of Fairfax County, Va., went further.
"David L.C. David is one of those individuals who is a master of
deception. For years, he hoodwinked the public into believing that he
was a man among men. In so doing, he created a legend that held up
only for so long as it took for him to come to the attention of those
who knew better. In the end, he turned out to be a latter-day Walter
Mitty whose imagination, translated into lies, overwhelmed him."
As it turned out, David did serve in Vietnam, not in a combat role,
but as a storekeeper.
In time, his deception became bolder. Once, he showed a group photo of
young Navy SEALs to Long Beach veteran Bob Delzell, who now lives in
Vietnam. As Delzell later recalled, he pointed to one of the people in
the photo and said it was him. "It didn't look anything like him,"
Delzell later recalled. "I questioned that, but David said he looked
different then because he was so young."
Delzell, who won an authentic Silver Star in Vietnam, also tells a
story similar to Nelson's. He said David tried to borrow the
certificate that came with the medal. Delzell refused, suspecting
David wanted to copy the certificate for some reason.
David's charade dated back to at least 1971, when he gave a lecture
about his alleged Vietnam experience to students at Center Junior High
in Simi Valley. One of the students, Tracy-Paul Warrington, said David
told of having to kill a 3- or 4-year-old child because she had
explosives strapped to her body with the fuse burning. "You could have
heard a pin drop in that classroom," said Warrington. "The teachers
were moved to tears."
Warrington, who later became a civilian software engineer, said the
experience of hearing David steered him initially into joining the
military. "It's kind of ironic that a phony was one of the influences
in my life and career," Warrington said later.
Getting tough
David's deception is not unique. There have been so many cases
involving fake claims of heroism that in 2005 Congress passed the
Stolen Valor Act. It increased penalties for the unauthorized wearing
of unearned medals.
As awareness of the law grows, so has the number of cases against
those charged with violating it. This past week, a Palm Springs
banker, Steven Burton, was ordered to appear in court on charges that
he falsely wore combat medals during a class reunion. If convicted he
might face a year in prison. Burton is also said to have appeared at
the reunion in the uniform of a Marine lieutenant colonel. Authorities
say, however, there is no record of his having served in the military.
Burton, who claimed combat experience in Iraq and Afghanistan, is said
to be the fifth Californian charged with wearing unearned medals this
year. There have been about 60 such cases nationwide. Prestige and
recognition are said to have been their dominant motive.
Fake war heroes also face the growing scrutiny of former service
members and others who, working largely with computers, now challenge
the false claims. Some of them think it would have been a matter of
time before these dedicated investigators caught up with David.
Not everyone thinks such cases should be prosecuted. Speaking of David
David, Nelson says, "Did he harm anybody? I don't think so."
A lot of veterans would disagree, however.
Tom Hennessy's column appears on the first and third Sundays of the
month. He can be reached at 562-499-1270 or by e-mail at
Scri...@mac.com.
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Nigel Brooks
"Dai Uy" <Dai...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:199d8662-67f0-4aec...@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> David's charade dated back to at least 1971, when he gave a lecture
> about his alleged Vietnam experience to students at Center Junior High
> in Simi Valley. One of the students, Tracy-Paul Warrington, said David
> told of having to kill a 3- or 4-year-old child because she had
> explosives strapped to her body with the fuse burning. "You could have
> heard a pin drop in that classroom," said Warrington. "The teachers
> were moved to tears."
Seems to be a common denominator amongst frauds:
"I will never forget the day when a little smiling girl no more than 4 or 5
years old started walking towards me trying to give me a pack of cigarettes.
I was forced to shoot her. "
http://tinyurl.com/o7sqs7
Nigel Brooks
DGVREIMAN
"Nigel Brooks" <nbr...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:7marauF...@mid.individual.net...
>
> Nigel Brooks
Rebuttal:
Mr. Con man, er, Mr. Brooks: We both know my comments about the
little girl were pure fiction. When you asked me about them you were
told immediately directly they were fiction. You also know that I
posted in my disclaimer, thousands of times, that I sometimes use
fiction in posts to make a point, tell a joke, whatever. You also
know that everything that everyone posts on USENET is NOT non-fiction,
not unless of course you are a raving lunitic.
Your claim that I am a fraud is libel, and your claim that I posted
the above as a statement of fact is nothing more than your typical con
man serial lying jargon, and we both know it. Cease and desist your
harassment and instruct your con and hate gang to do the same.
Apologize for your fraud and serial lying about me, or face further
legal action.
Moreover, the people that are the true frauds are the ones that lie
and con about a real veterans past service, like you and Tom Rau do on
a regular basis. You lied about your service, you lied about
participating in the 1968 Tet offensive, and probably in your shame
and embarassment for such fraud you have started to lie and con about
other's service, although when challenged to produce a single document
to prove your fraud, you run and piss your panties.
Here are the *facts* about the post you are quoting:
SMEAR AND HATE GANG EVIDENCE
Doug's Rebuttal to Nigel Brooks/hate/smear group obvious fraud and
false accusations:
This post from Nigel Brooks and/or one of his hate/smear gang members
is a classic Nigel Brooks hate, smear and con gang post. These hate
gangs regularly post outright fraud, false accusations and obloquy so
as to (1) paint their hate victim in a false and defaming light (2)
incite hatred against their targeted victim by others with the use of
false accusations, serial lying, outright fraud, and of course,
demonizing and vilifying false statements of fact.
Nigel Brooks the con man of course uses such hate practices mentioned
above on a regular basis, and this post is a classic Nigel Brooks'
hate/con and vilification attempt.
1. Nigel Brooks and his hate/smear gang know my "shooting little
girl" passage was pure fiction. Nigel Brooks and many members of his
hate/smear gang have responded to my posts informing them that this
passage was meant to be and was pure fiction. Nigel Brooks has also
responded hundreds of times to my disclaimer which states I do not
post statements of autobiographical fact on USENET, and that I post
Fiction on a regular basis, and will continue to do so.
2. Nigel Brooks and his hate/smear gang operate much the same as the
Von Brunn smear and hate gang operated prior to the hate monger's
attack on the Holocaust Museum. They attempt to fraudulently vilify
and smear their targeted victims, hoping and praying that someone will
take violent action against their targeted victim, or at least, such
as I have received, send their victim threats of violence and death,
vandalize their property, follow the victim, and threaten the victim's
family. This is the purpose of hate/smear gangs, to incite hatred and
demonize their targeted victim and his family with the use of
demonizing fraud and false accusations.
3. As we see by the "Troll" self-acclamations by key members of the
Nigel Brooks hate/smear gang, boasting about conning and lying to the
group as a "Troll" is something these smear/hate gang members do on a
regular basis. Obviously, they are a gang of con men, by their own
admission and boasts.
4. Much the same as the hate gang led by the Von Brunn murderer, (the
hate group leader that attacked the Holocaust Museum and murdered a
security guard) key members of the Nigel Brooks smear/hate gang have
incited, directed and recommended that gang members (and others)
perpetrate criminal acts against me, and some have done precisely
that, and one in particular has even written a manual on how to use
criminal acts to "demonize the gang's targeted victim."
Nigel Brooks knows Shooting Little Girl Passage was Pure Fiction - Yet
he Fraudulently and Deceptively Presents it as Non-Fiction
5. As a case in point, Mr. Nigel Brooks has posted as a fraudulent
statement of fact that I "shot a little girl" now more than twelve
times and counting. Considering all of his hate/smear gang's fraud in
this respect, they have collectively posted this fraud and false
accusation more than thirty times and counting.
6. The Nigel Brooks hate/smear gang know the shooting (around) little
girl passage was pure fiction, yet they fraudulently attempt to con
people into believing I shot a little girl in Vietnam. Converting
known fiction into a false accusation about the author is a typical
smear/con/hate gang function; it is designed to fraudulently demonize
the hate group's targeted victim.
7. ***We all know that only hate/smear and con groups would
repeatedly post known pure fiction as a misleading and false
statement of fact so as to fraudulently and deceptively demonize and
smear the hate group's targeted victim. ***
Like I said, this post from Nigel and/or his hate group gang member is
classic hate group evidence.
8. See below for irrefutable proof that Nigel Brooks and his
hate/smear gang know full well the post passage they are fraudulently
presenting as a "statement of fact" by me, was nothing more than pure
fiction used to simply embellish a point.
9. See also below fo irrefutable proof that Nigel Brooks and his
hate/smear gang know full well that I have told them, told the world,
HUNDREDS OF TIMES, that I DO NOT post autobiographical statements of
fact on USENET - and anyone that preposterously claims everyone that
posts on USENET is *always* posting non-fiction, and is *always*
posting autobiographical statements of fact, is either a member of
Nigel Brooks smear and hate group, or is probably a drooling moron.
NIGEL BROOKS NON -FICTION FRAUD - REBUTTAL
(Smear Merchant Disclaimer: Please note this article (the same as all
of my past articles and exchanges with posters) represents an
editorial on contemporary issues and events - my opinion. Nothing in
this article represents in any manner any asseveration of biographical
fact, nor is about, directed toward or against any particular person -
other than those specifically mentioned herein. This article is being
posted for entertainment purposes only. If any person finds this post
personally annoying, abusive, defaming or otherwise disturbing, please
notify me of your specific reasons for annoyance via email at
legal...@comcast.net. If we find your detailed objections
reasonable (considering the "reasonable person" doctrine and case law)
we will then remove this post, or the offending passages contained
therein, from the Google archive, publicly apologize and retract. My
intent is to entertain, and to present articles to USENET readers
prior to publication to determine interest, and not to annoy, abuse,
humiliate, or in any way cause anyone emotional harm by posting on
USENET or elsewhere. Please note that defending myself from harassment
and obloquy with rebuttal posts has been deemed a "lawful and
legitimate" publication by my legal counsel. If I am not attacked,
libeled, defamed or harassed, or my copyrighted articles not
interrupted nor infringed upon, I clearly do not have a reason to
respond with a rebuttal. Please also note that I intend to notify any
and all ISP's and web hosts of any annoying or calumnious post, web
site or other similar entity about me after I give the offender an
opportunity to retract, apologize and remove said post from the Google
archive.
SMEAR MERCHANT DISCLAIMER TWO: Considering the typical ridiculous,
absurd and obviously false claims about my military service that
originates from the crackpot smear and con gang that operates on
alt.war.Vietnam, I also hereby certify and attest this article is NOT
a secret coded message that only gang members can decode with their
secret Federal Agent/Sp4 draftee/former Junior Reserve Officer/ midget
decoder and mind reading rings.
This means the Brownie crackpots' inevitable accusations and howls
that this article is really me claiming in a special soothsaying code
(a code only crackpots et al smear gang can only read of course which
involves their typical claim the American Heritage Dictionary's
definitions of simple terms, such as "we" "estimated" "involved"
"retired from" and "not representing any biographical claim" are all
incorrect, and only their "special interpretations of the English
language can apply to all English terms I use, and of course the gang's
standard nonsensical mind reading and soothsaying claims that (1) I
was a CIA cross border assassin that sniper killed Ho Chi Minh,
HOORAH - (2) that I personally killed 1803 enemy soldiers in Vietnam
and then feasted on their bodies (burp) (3) that I was a secret member
of the Mi Lai massacre, (let god sort them out) that I hunted down and
murdered unarmed Priests (take that choir boy) (4) that I was trained
by the Martian Army on Mars, and I have green blood, and retractable
fangs (slurp), (5) that the movie "Rambo" was copied after my deeds in
Vietnam and I still live in caves in the northwest (6) and best of
all, I went to the Carlisle War College to study WWII tactics even
before I was born!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHHA.
Needless to say, the smear gang misrepresentations of my past posts
are of course, not true.
I have posted dozens of times on USENET that I will not post
autobiographical facts about my life on USENET in any detail. Only a
quip now and then. And, if anyone wants to know the true facts, or a
clarification of any quip, or more information and details about an
issue which are clearly missing in my quips they must first contact
me via email, identify themselves, and then I will determine if I want
to exchange such personal information with them.
Although the above is my standing offer, I should mention that NOT ONE
member of the gang has ever contacted me directly over any one of my
posts. It is clear the gang does not want to know about obvious
typos, errors, and occasional ambiguities, nor clarifications, nor
corrections, nor do they even want verification whether I was the
actual author of the post in question.
As experts on Investigations and the US Military have noted, the gang
leaders and their members clearly want to avoid the truth whenever it
contradicts their contrived and conspired defaming parsing and
fraudulent misrepresentations and distortions of what I have written
in the past, or contradicts their lies and fraud in respect to what is
and is not truly contained in my military records, and of course,
their fraudulent use of USENET posts they know others have written to
use to smear me, defame me, hold me up to public ridicule, stalk me,
and otherwise further their years' long demonizing and vilification
campaign they have been regularly waging against me.
In short, the gang does not want to know the truth, and they are
desperate to stop me from defending myself as they know my truthful
rebuttals, which they cannot defend as they know what I am posting is
true, reveal them for what they really are.
The gang's lies and fraud border on the pathological, and include the
gang' preposterous and goofy fraud that (7) a Purple Heart VA card is
the same as a Purple Heart Medal (I have posted on USENET dozens of
times I did not receive a Purple Heart Medal) (8) Nor that removing
hundreds of typos, errors, misstatements made by typists and I found
so far in about thirty-five THOUSAND extemporaneous posts under
accounts I used, and then replacing the errors with the true intended
context and meaning by the author is somehow "sinister" and the
original discarded post was the correct intended post and the
corrected version is false! (Giggle).
Such glaring preposterous crackpot et al smear and fraud gang claims
about me are, as usual, blatantly false and equally ridiculous. (Ask
the gang leaders for proof of their claims the next time they make
such ludicrous claims and watch them scurry for their rocks or produce
their own forgeries, or perhaps typos, errors and such that have long
been detected and discarded in my waste basket they have dug out of
that trash). And no, regardless of forgeries and discarded posts found
in my waste basket that were thrown there because of an error or
typist misstatement by one of our typist's, I have posted about two
dozen times in the past that my time in South America was spent (other
than an assignment and short visit to Southern Command after I left
Vietnam) exclusively as a Civilian working for Montana Western Oil and
Gas or PCA, which evidence was scanned and posted years ago.
Also, in response to the smear gang's et al repeated and convenient
outright lie and fraud that I never said that others were using the
same accounts to post on USENET as I did until the smear gang leaders
started their fraud, con and smear campaign against me and thereby
forced me to post on this newsgroup to defend myself, please see the
following proof that of course the gang leaders et al have been caught
lying again:
http://tinyurl.com/6d4aay TYPISTS' GALORE POST proves there were about
71 previous posts prior to the gang's glaring lie that I never
mentioned others posting under the same accounts I used until after
the gang leaders started to use a few typos, errors and post fragments
written by many different people, years apart, never written on any
military forum, deceptively spliced together with forged words added
into or subtracted from the hodgepodge of different context post
fragments so as to fraudulently alter their meaning or context.
http://tinyurl.com/7kfaqz Experts on Smear Gangs reveal what the
Nigel Brooks con and smear gang is all about.
http://tinyurl.com/bu3dwb Those that Label Others KOOKS suffer a
psychosis named EID say psychologists - and that Kook votes never
occur outside of the smear gang.
http://tinyurl.com/5o59lr Nigel Brooks lies about receiving medals he
never received, and serving in war campaigns long after he had already
left active duty.
http://tinyurl.com/bxrf2b US Government Web Site and independent
Experts on the US Military confirm Nigel Brooks lied about my
military service and my military records. (This read is important as
the gang is claiming that my military records disproved or prove
various things, but we find those claims to be nothing more than
outright cons and fraud from the gang. Brooks and Rau and other gang
members have been lying about the contents of my records for years.
Above is just some of the proof of that fact.
http://tinyurl.com/ddogy4 Proof of just a few of Nigel Brooks
outright forgeries which he has used to fraudulently defame and smear
me - yes *forgeries* - fraud and deception from Nigel Brooks.
Purple Heart Defamation from the gang revealed and rebutted.
Irrefutable proof the gang has been using outright fraud, defamation
and forgeries to smear and defame in respect to this issue.
http://tinyurl.com/pomzo7 05/21/09 YET ANOTHER Investigator confirms
gang lied about Purple Heart medal claims. Also all those times I
said I did not have a PH Medal, which the gang has been hiding.
Smear Gang "I said I was a Hero lie" - In fact - I said the *exact
opposite* as these several past posts clearly prove - once again the
gang has been caught lying about something they have been forging and
lying about for years.
Here Nigel Brooks admits that he is not claiming I claimed I had a
purple heart medal:
1http://tinyurl.com/y3yvb9 In this post I make it clear that I
referenced a Purple Heart Card and not a Purple Heart Medal - and
thedifference between the two.
In the above URL, Mr. Brooks also provided the following very clear
statement about this issue:
"He's doing the same now - by trying to insert the word "medal" into
the argument. Well no-one is accusing him of claiming to have had a
"Purple Heart Medal" - but the record shows he has claimed to have had
a Purple Heart (VA service connected ID card) and that he received it
in a real war. "
Obviously, Nigel Brooks above agreed and confirmed that I never said I
had a purple heart medal. Strange Nigel and his gang would
conveniently "forget" Nigel's conclusion about this issue after I
started proving they had lied about this issue all along - as the
above posts clearly prove?
When Brooks read my "shoot around little girl" post (for about the
tenth time and counting) he said the following:
http://tinyurl.com/q9r9to May 22, 2009
"I would hazard a guess that the story is complete bullshit and that
Reiman never shot a 4 or 5 year old Vietnamese girl, otherwise
such an admission made in a public forum is astounding.
>>>> Nigel Brooks "
Then *after* I responded to Brooks (see URL above) and told him that
of course it was pure fiction just like my disclaimer states hundreds
of times. Brooks then reversed himself and wrote:
" he was in fact claiming that whilst he was in Vietnam he was >
forced to shoot a 4 or 5 year old Vietnamese child, who he claims was
attempting to kill him or his compatriots with an explosive device
concealed in a package of cigarettes.
>
> Now that is the logical interpretation of his post. In that post he
> says nothing about it being a fictional account or a debating
> method. The post stands by itself."
Nigel Brooks"
SELF ADMITTED AND SELF ACCLAIMED "TROLLS" OPERATE NIGEL BROOKS SMEAR
GANG'S MOST UNETHICAL FRAUD, SERIAL LYING AND CON MAN FALSE
ACCUSATIONS!
Many of the most vociferous and deceptive Nigel Brooks' key smear
gang members self-describe themselves as "Trolls."
These self-acclaimed and self-described *Trolls* have posted
hundreds of defaming statements and libel about me under those very
revealing Troll self-descriptions. (See alt.war.vietnam troll
section - you will find ALL of the self-described Trolls are connected
to Nigel Brooks and his gang's defamation and smear campaigns).
As just one example, here is the latest FBI forgery direct from a
Nigel Brooks gang member that self-describes himself as a "Troll."
Note the gang member is again fraudulently using the name of the FBI
to smear and defame - which as we all know is a criminal act.
It is obvious these Nigel Brooks smear gang members will resort to and
use criminal acts to further the gang's smear and vilification
campaigns:
"Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.alt.net
From: Troll #351 <Leon...@sistine.va>
Newsgroups:
alt.war.vietnam,alt.politics,alt.news-media,alt.military,alt.military.retired,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: That Second FBI Phone Transcript betwixt Mr.Doug Grant-tm
and the FBI
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:55:46 -0700"
Considering the self-description of these gang members as "Trolls" and
their propensity to use criminal acts (using the name of the FBI for
nefarious purposes is a criminal act - Federal and Brooks knows it)
to defame Nigel Brook's targeted smear victim, can anyone out there
actually believe anything Nigel Brooks or any of his gang members say
about anyone?
If you do then you are admitting that you are de facto stating that
you believe people that are *telling you up front they are liars and
con men!* BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Question:
If you actually believe someone that is telling you up front that he
is lying to you, what would best describe you: (1) a moron (2) a
drooling moron (3) a member of the Nigel Brooks smear and con gang -
or perhaps all three?
End Disclaimer - Rebuttal Begins below:
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It appears that Mr. Brooks just cannot help himself when it comes to
desperately searching for a way to smear and defame me with more
outright fraud and serial lying. The latest "shooting around the
little girl" post whines, barks and slobbers from Brooks, is a classic
example of just how unethical Nigel Brooks and his gaggle of smear
merchants really are:
As a case in point:
In a recent issue Brooks brought up from years ago (of course) about
shooting around a little girl in Vietnam to make a point about how the
Commie Vietnamese used little children to murder - Nigel Brooks even
took the time (a very rare event) to actually ask me what I meant by
that passage. Brooks at the time speculated that it was of course
Fiction, and of course I confirmed his statement and belief that
indeed the hyperbole was pure fiction.
But true to his con man mantra, and although Nigel Brooks himself
stated at first he believed my clear hyperbole statement was pure
fiction, as soon as I confirmed his conclusion that it was Fiction, ol
Nigel completely reversed himself, ignored what I the author told
him, and commenced yammering and barking that I meant the post to be
"non-fiction!"
Someone needs to tell Mr. Brooks that his claim that an author
intended non-fiction, then stated clearly that what he wrote was
Fiction, why on Earth would an Author do that? DUHHHHHHHH!
Brooks' logic is back up the sewer pipes again - running with the rats
as usual. (Its like his Can Tho BS; claiming that I described an
attack when I was NOT in Can Tho, and further claiming I did *not*
describe a much larger and more deadly attack when even Brooks admits
I *was* in Can Tho during that attack. So why on Earth would I not
describe an attack I DID witness, and then describe an attack I did
NOT witness? DUHHHHHHHHHHHH! Again we see the same lack of
intelligence shining through the holes in ol Nigel's head in both
obvious misrepresentations!)
Brooks sudden Non-Fiction claim after I told him the passage was
Fiction, is analogous to Nigel Brooks, after reading "From the Earth
to the Moon" by Jules Verne, howling and whining that Jules Verne is a
liar because he did not actually travel to the Moon! And continuing
that howl AFTER Mr. Verne told this moron that his work was indeed
FICTION! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA). FICTION IS FICTION! Are these smear
merchants *that* stupid? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. (I am sorry for
the laughter but sometimes Nigel Brooks is soooooo stupid he actually
makes me laugh out loud - and Brooks is a genius compared to some of
his other gang members).
(No one ever said that Nigel Brooks nor his gang were intelligent
people - and Brooks latest con seems to bear up that opinion
perfectly).
BROOKS *LYING BY OMISSION AGAIN*
BROOKS IGNORES HUNDREDS OF MY "I DO NOT POST AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL
STATEMENTS OF FACT" statements - averts his eyes from the Fiction
statements, and then claims that everyone that posts on USENET is
*always* posting non-fiction and is *always* posting an
autobiographical statement of fact *regardless* of what the author
states about his own work! Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Either this man
is as dumb as a shovel, or he is trying his best (again) to use fraud,
false accusations and obloquy to smear and defame me - you can choose.
(Perhaps both?)
Brooks Consults his Crystal Ball!
Now how would Nigel Brooks ever know what someone else was thinking
when he wrote something? DUHHHHH. Here we go again with Nigel's
standard claim that he has a crystal ball shoved up his ass that he
consults regularly and so does his gang members (brown noses are
common in the Nigel Brooks smear and con gang). How exactly Nigel
consults his own crystal ball is, I bet, a sight to behold - but since
he has his head up there most the time, I suspect he would look
stranger if he actually appeared without his head up his ass.
BROOKS FANTASTIC BS
Incredibly, *after* Brooks read my disclaimer hundreds of times which
clearly states that I do *NOT* post autobiographical statements of
fact on USENET, and his smear gang overall replying to not less than
730 separate posts in which I clearly also stated that I do not post
autobiographical statements of fact on USENET, and even after me
telling ol Nigel directly in response to his question the little girl
post was pure fiction, what does Nigel and his gang say and do?
Now they want the readers to believe that EVERYTHING I post is always
an autobiographical fact! BHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What an
obvious glaring and ridiculous con that claim is considering all of
the evidence to the contrary. (I am reminded of the Butter Bar quip -
when Nigel asked me about it I explained to him that I meant when a
SFC E-7 took the place of a Platoon Leader because their was no
commissioned officer available - so *after* Nigel was informed of this
fact, what did Nigel do? Nigel *forged* the terms "(2nd lieutenant)
into my post after my term Butter Bar so as to forge the true context
of my post - and he knew all along he was deceiving and lying to the
readers by altering my post!)
Here is irrefutable evidence of the Nigel Brooks forgery of my Butter
Bar post, and a few other forgeries he has perpetrated as well:
http://tinyurl.com/ddogy4 Proof of just a few of Nigel Brooks
outright forgeries which he has used to fraudulently defame and smear
me - yes *forgeries* - evidence of outright fraud and deception from
Nigel Brooks.
NIGEL'S NEW CON
Brooks now has come up with a new con that because when he reads one
of his out-of-context, forged and/or fraudulent cuts and pastes from
one of my old USENET posts he cannot tell the difference between what
is intended Fiction or Non-Fiction. That is not good for a con man -
how can he lie and defame an author over "Fiction?" Ergo, Brooks now
wants everyone to believe that everything I have ever written,
regardless of my disclaimers and statements to the contrary, is
Non-Fiction!
What absolute nonsense Nigel Brooks' latest con represents: (Brooks
con in this regard also directly contradicts his past claims that what
I wrote was not true - so now he has reversed himself and claims
everything I wrote was true! BWHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
The man cons so much and is so crooked he must meet himself in
Elevators going the opposite direction!
HOW TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FICTION AND NON-FICTION
Would someone tell this screaming moron that not being able to tell
the difference is the idea behind writing fiction and non-fiction
interlaced? There is never any secret code that tells a reader what
he is reading is truly fiction or non-fiction. Take the paragraph
above where the author says each member of his club killed 2, 375 on
average. It certainly reads true, there are no codes in there telling
you it is not true. So is it fiction or non-fiction?
Of course it is pure fiction as it is a passage from Jules Verne's
"From the Earth to the Moon" science fiction novel.
So again, how do we tell the difference between fiction and
non-fiction?
By reading it and then deciding if it has some secret squirrel codes
in it to tell us the difference between fiction and non-fiction like
Nigel Brooks claims? Noooooooooo of course not - NO ONE is stupid
enough to believe that Nigel Brooks BS.
The only way you can tell if an author is writing fiction or
non-fiction, or autobiographical statements of fact, or
autobiographical fiction laced with non-fiction, is to ASK the author,
or to read what he says about his own work.
According to Nigel Brooks latest con, when an author tells you his
article, blog whatever, is fiction, that is always a lie. According
to Brooks all books of fiction wherein the author states his work is
fiction is really non-fiction. According to Brooks Fiction does not
exist on USENET or anywhere else! Weeeoooo\eeeesoooo - Emergency -
Brain Dead - Brain Dead!
Why is Brooks so Desperate to Sell this Obvious Con?
The obvious reason Nigel Brooks and gang are so desperate to howl and
bark this obvious con is because they know they cannot smear and
defame people on USENET by cutting and pasting snippets out of context
from past posts if the author meant those past posts to be fiction.
How can you smear someone for writing autobiographical fiction - and
telling you up front that is what he is writing!
***No wonder Brooks hid all those hundreds of posts that informed all
readers I NEVER write autobiographical statements of fact on USENET,
and no wonder his gang snips out my disclaimers each time I post them.
*** Lying and deceiving readers by omitting key facts is a classic
Nigel Brooks con - he uses that con repeatedly.
The gang knows it must hide the truth from the readers, or their con
game and smear campaigns will be exposed for what they really are -
outright cyberbullying with the use of forgeries, fraud, obloquy and
false accusations by the thousands.
Note that Brooks knows the "Little Girl" post was pure fiction - I
told him so as soon as he asked about it. Now watch how many times he
and his gang repeat that post without mentioning that "PURE FICTION"
detail. (Fraud and lying by omission - watch how many times the gang
perpetrates this classic Nigel Brooks fraud).
The gang will use obvious fraud and deception at every opportunity -
and they use it shamelessly. That is the posting hallmark of the
Nigel Brooks con and smear gang. I will keep count and let all know
how many times Brooks and gang attempt this particular con as it
clearly reveals the malicious intent to smear and defame by Nigel
Brooks and his gang.
NO CENSORSHIP ALLOWED
***I will never allow Clowns and dregs like Nigel Brooks and his gang
censor me, or dictate to me how and what I write, although many have
attempted to do precisely that with their threats and smear
campaigns.****
If you allow the self-appointed *censors* to bully you, then you
might as well agree that those that use the most personal attacks will
control the bloqosphere - and USENET, and then Groups will become
useless to anyone but a smear gang member.
NIGEL BROOKS GANG SELF-ADMITTED CON MEN
Also, never forget that key members of the Nigel Brooks smear gang
have openly admitted they are "Trolls" and have further clearly
committed criminal acts to further the Nigel Brooks smear and
defamation campaign.
If you are stupid enough to believe Nigel Brooks latest "never any
fiction on USENET con" - and stupid enough to believe people that have
self-described themselves as con men and serial liars, then I suspect
along with some serious medication you also probably need a prefrontal
lobotomy. NO ONE is *that* stupid! (Gang members excluded of course).
I have not even *started* to defend myself from this incredibly
unethical smear and con gang.
Doug Grant (Tm)
>
DGVREIMAN
"Dai Uy" <Dai...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:199d8662-67f0-4aec...@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
"My motives were not meant to harm or dishonor those who have
fought and bled for this country. My motives were quite personal and
at times painful." He added, "Living this daily lie was born out of a
tragic need to be someone people looked up to and admired."
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
smear merchant disclaimer below applies:
Doug Says: Mr. Rau, I agree that those that lie about their military
service should be exposed;
Below is an example of Nigel Brooks lying about his medals and his
participation in the 1968 Tet offensive, which the US Army says he was
not even on active duty at the time! (See below).
Also, did you ask your fellow hate gang member, Mr. Tom Huxton about
his military service? He claims that he was wearing brass on his
Jungle fatigues, and that he worked in a tank without any tank
training. He also claimed that he served under another name other
than Tom Huxton (a.k.a. Pepperoni) so that no one can check on his
"military claims" he also claims to be someone that served in the US
Marine corps, but he said he was in the US Army?
How about checking on someone that calls himself a medic but was
really only a ward attendant in a hospital unit? How about the
anonymous cyberstalker SteveL that works with you and Brooks in
posting fake FBI reports and goes from forum to forum attacking real
vets, and fraudulently claiming they lied about their military
service, and calls our Marines murderers? Isn't that someone you
should be also complaining about? Don't you believe the con men,
fraud merchants and serial liars that lie and defame real Vets
military service are the real thiefs of valor?
Why are you not complaining about your gang members Mr. Rau?
Hypocrisy too hard of a word for you to understand?
Also, you do not think you are some kind of hero do you Mr. Rau? All
of your boasting about your medals, and your lying about other real
combat vets (more than one attack) service? What makes you think you
are better than any other Vietnam vet Rau? I believe I know Sp4
clerks that saw more combat than you did - correct me if I am wrong
Rau, name the times you were ever in combat, when and where. I have
received quite a bit of information about your places of assignment
and duties Mr. Rau - and pandering for medals is not a sign of valor,
it is, in my opinion, a sign of disgust.
Doug Grant (Tm)
Proof Nigel Brooks lied about his military service:
SteveL
<dgvr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>"Dai Uy" <Dai...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:199d8662-67f0-4aec...@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> "My motives were not meant to harm or dishonor those who have
>fought and bled for this country. My motives were quite personal and
>at times painful." He added, "Living this daily lie was born out of a
>tragic need to be someone people looked up to and admired."
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>smear merchant disclaimer below applies:
>
>Doug Says: Mr. Rau, I agree that those that lie about their military
>service should be exposed;
>
>Below is an example of Nigel Brooks lying about his medals and his
>participation in the 1968 Tet offensive, which the US Army says he was
>not even on active duty at the time! (See below).
>
>Also, did you ask your fellow hate gang member, Mr. Tom Huxton about
>his military service? He claims that he was wearing brass on his
>Jungle fatigues, and that he worked in a tank without any tank
>training. He also claimed that he served under another name other
>than Tom Huxton (a.k.a. Pepperoni) so that no one can check on his
>"military claims" he also claims to be someone that served in the US
>Marine corps, but he said he was in the US Army?
>
>How about checking on someone that calls himself a medic but was
>really only a ward attendant in a hospital unit?
Who won the Silver Star for an act of valor you could only dream about
(Except when you lie through your teeth bragging about similar
exploits), you sad c*nt.
> How about the
>anonymous cyberstalker SteveL that works with you and Brooks in
>posting fake FBI reports
(see below)
> and goes from forum to forum attacking real
>vets, and fraudulently claiming they lied about their military
>service
Have you got worms or something, Doogie?
Anyway, for the reigning Usenet Kook of the Year:
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Date: 10 Apr 2001 16:26:03 GMT
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Doogie-monster, Doug Grant wrote:
>Moreover, I have already spoken with the FBI, they
>are telling me things very different from what you are claiming.
Due to a successful FOIA request, I was able to secure a transcript of
this conversation. I present below the official transcript of
Doogie's conversation with the FBI:
FBI: "Good afternoon, FBI Seattle, Special Agent Johnson speaking,
no, the other one"
Doogie: "Hello, my name is Doug Grant, and I want to discuss with you
a case of cyberstalking"
FBI: "Okay, Doug Grant, G-R-A-N-T"
Doogie: "Well, actually my name is Doug Reiman."
FBI: "Oh, I see. Reiman. R-E-I-M-A-N"
Doogie: "But I use the name Doug Grant"
FBI: "Okay Mr. Grant"
Doogie: "But you have to use 'TM' after my name, because it's a
trademarked name"
FBI: "So you're saying you want me to call you Mr. Grant-tm?"
Doogie: "You don't have to call me that, you should just make a note
of it next to my name."
FBI: "Grant-tm. Got it. How may your government be of service to
you today?"
Doogie: "I would like to you investigate, arrest and prosecute a
whole bunch of people who are cyberstalking me."
FBI: "I see Mr. Grant-tm, how are these people cyberstalking you?"
Doogie: "Well first off, they sent me kiddie porn. Well, actually,
they sent me an e-mail that said 'Hot young teen babes - CLICK HERE!!'
FBI: "And you consider this cyberstalking, Mr. Grant-tm? Actually,
this is getting a little tedious, I think I'll just call you Mr. TM.
And you believe it is cyberstalking?"
Doogie: "Of course it is!! Haven't you read the statutes I've posted
at least a thousand times regarding cyberstalking?"
FBI: "Posted? What have you posted, and to where?"
Doogie: "I've posted it to rec.gambling.blackjack. It's the place
where all the con men and the hucksters prey on innocent people,
perpetrating egregious frauds on unsuspecting newbies."
FBI: "Con men and hucksters?"
Doogie: "Yes, I've already proved this in court you moron. There are
thousands and thousands of con men hucksters and they're all
cyberstalking me on rec.gambling.blackjack. But I already proved this
beyond a shadow of a doubt in court."
FBI: "Well Mr. TM, if you've already proved it in court, why do you
need the FBI to be involved?"
Doogie: "That's part of the conspiracy you moron!! The con men
hucksters managed to arrange through nefarious means (this is part of
what I need you to investigate) for the Federal Judge (who no doubt is
in on the conspiracy) to throw out my complaint! Then, in an
incredible shake of pure hucksterism the 3 Judges on the Federal
Appeals court PROVED that they are part of the same conspiracy!! They
dismissed my claims! And everyone involved is cyberstalking me!!!"
FBI: So let me get this straight, you say you're being cyberstalked
by a massive conspiracy that includes thousands and thousands of con
men and hucksters and 4 Federal Judges. Ahem. I see Mr. TM, and
aside from this text-only kiddie porn that they've sent to you, have
they threatened you in any way?"
Doogie: "Of course they have! One guy was claiming that I didn't
have a registered trademark, and posted that my status was DEAD! That
was clearly a veiled death threat."
FBI: Your status is dead?
Doogie: No you idiot! The status of my trademark is dead! Not me!
That's why it was clearly a death threat!
FBI: "Mr. TM, your trademark is dead? Then why are you insisting I
call you Mr. TM Mr. Grant?"
Doogie: "You will recognize my trademark, because I claim common law
trademark rights! Don't you know anything you blithering fool!?"
FBI: "Yes Mr. Grant no-tm, please continue about the death threats."
Doogie: "Another group of people all threatened to put me in their
kill files! Clearly, they intend to cause me harm."
FBI: "Killfile you?"
Doogie: "Yes. This is clearly a threat from the con men hucksters."
FBI: "Don't forget the Federal Judges."
Doogie: "I haven't even gotten to the best part yet."
FBI: "And that is?"
Doogie: "All of these con men and hucksters are really the same
person."
FBI: "They are?"
Doogie: "Yes, his name is Bingo Billy Rusty BillyRubin Abdul Solinas
Mizz Tie"
FBI: "That's one hell of a name."
Doogie: "Yes, they are using dozens and dozens of AOL accounts to
stalk me. Believe me, I know how it works. I once created 150 AOL
accounts in order to defeat one of their nefarious plans."
FBI: "You defeated their nefarious plans by creating 150 AOL
accounts?"
Doogie: "Well, no, I didn't actually defeat them. The USENET
Volunteer Votetaker turned out to be another member of the conspiracy,
and she through out all of my fake votes as frauds!!"
FBI: "So these people are all one person posting from AOL accounts."
Doogie: "Oh no, it's much worse than that. They have a magical way
of making their posts look like they're not coming from AOL. They use
aol, home.com, web-tv, paxentertainment and hundreds of other
providers. But THEY'RE REALLY ONLY ONE GUY POSTING FROM AOL!!!!"
"IT'S CLEARLY A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY!!! ALL DESIGNED TO CYBERSTALK
ME!!!!"
FBI: "Clearly, eh? Okay."
Doogie: "The most sinister part of it all involves Mizz Tie."
FBI: "Mizz Tie?"
Doogie: "Yes. You see, she claims to work for a casino. But it's
obvious that all of the con men hucksters are liars, so she obviously
doesn't work for a casino."
FBI: "And this is sinister….how?"
Doogie: "Because it's all part of the conspiracy! You see, because
she is a con man huckster and a liar, it's obvious that she's SECRETLY
WORKING FOR THE CASINOS!!!!"
FBI: "I thought you said that she SAID she worked for a casino."
Doogie: "I did! Don't you see now how deep and sinister this plot
really is?"
FBI: "I see Mr. no-tm. And do you feel as though you're in any
danger?"
Doogie: "No, I'm not in any danger. I was in Vietnam as a Navy Seal.
I've killed many many times. I am not afraid of those con men
hucksters."
FBI: "You were a Navy Seal?"
Doogie: "Well, no. I was actually a seamstress. I stitched ID seals
and insignia on to uniforms for the Navy. It was a killer job, that's
what I meant."
FBI: "So let's see if I got this straight. You are being
cyberstalked by one guy on AOL who posts under thousands of aliases
and 4 Federal Judges, who sent you spam e-mail, told you your
trademark status was dead and they threatened to killfile you. You
don't feel threatened by any of this and you believe that this
qualifies as cyberstalking."
Doogie: "Of course you moron! I've posted the cyberstalking statutes
a thousand times. This is clearly proof!"
FBI: "Yes Mr. Grant. Anything else?"
Doogie: "Yes. They called me a maroon."
FBI: "A maroon?"
Doogie: "Yes, they say: 'What a maroon' whenever I post"
FBI: "Oh, I get it!! Like Bugs Bunny! "What a maroon!"
Doogie: "No you blithering fool!! It's racist!! They are using
racist slurs
to intimidate me!!"
FBI: "Oh, Mr. Grant. I didn't realize you were black"
Doogie: "I'M NOT BLACK, YOU IDIOT!!! This is all part of the
cyberstalking! They use racist slurs against me to stalk me and
threaten me!!"
FBI: "Well Mr. Maroon, uh, Grant, eh Reiman. I have no doubt that
you are
being cyberstalked, and we'll get to the bottom of it right away.
"How can we reach you?"
Doogie: "Well, I live in the State of Washington now, but I don't
actually live in the State of Washington, I live in Las Vegas, Nevada.
But you can reach me at my Washington phone number which forwards to
my home in Las Vegas where I have hundreds of supporters who answer
the phone and say it's me."
FBI: "Yes Mr. Grant no-tm, we'll get on this right away"
Doogie: "The cyberstalking must end!!!"
FBI: "Yes, Mr. Grant."
[ sound of telephone hanging up ]
FBI: "What a maroon."
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Copyright 2001 - Rusty Martin
Freely distributable throughout the internet so long as attribution is
given.
Rusty Martin
"Indeed, we are satisfied that the appellants have mischaracterized
the facts." "...the reshuffle is hardly secret as the dealer does it
openly in the view of the players."--3rd Circuit Court of Appeals,
Justice Greenberg [Well duh! Doug]
tankfixer
stev...@deletethisbitntlworld.com says...
Worms in his brain....
> FBI: "And this is sinisterâ??.how?"
Nigel Brooks
"tankfixer" <paul.c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.256b9a4...@news.bytemine.net...
This sums it up quite nicely
http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_sounds/hg/looney.wav
>> FBI: "And this is sinisterￜ??.how?"
Daryl Hunt
The jokes on you, maroon. Doogie isn't a kook, he's a damned good
troll. He's been trolling the same idiots for a few years now. Guess
the AUK ain't what it used to be, aukk00k.
DGVREIMAN
Smear Merchant Disclaimer
I have better things to do than rebut the fraud and false accusations
made by members of the Nigel Brooks smear/hate and con gang.
However, unlike the gang's other smear victims, I will defend myself
from the gang's obloquy and fraud in each case. You would think these
pathetic souls would find something to do other than spread their
fraud, hate and smears about people that disagree with them, but alas,
this has become their "pathetic life."
Note first that Nigel Brooks and some of his hate/smear/con gang
members maintain a web site and a Google Newsgroup designed to defame
me with fraud, serial lying, outright con man fraud, and of course
libel, which forces me to rebut their fraud with these truthful
rebuttals.
I have offered Nigel Brooks (and/or any of his con/hate/smear gang
members) the opportunity to take their fraud and false accusations to
the American Association of Arbitrators, or to any legal department of
any University they select, and if either of those entities agree with
Nigel Brooks in respect to his accusations about me, I will pay for
their services. HOWEVER, if those legal experts agree that my
rebuttals are correct and accurate, then Nigel Brooks and/or his
smear/hate/con gang members pay for the independent legal analysis.
Nigel Brooks and his gang members run, duck, hide, cower, piss their
pants, and snivel pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse to hide from
and refuse my hundreds of offers to take this issue to independent
legal experts. . . and the reason is obvious - they know they are
lying.
ALSO NOTE THAT I CHALLENGED NIGEL BROOKS TO JUST *NAME* OR PRODUCE ANY
DOCUMENT HE CLAIMS EXISTS IN MY MILITARY RECORDS THAT DISPROVES ANY
STATEMENT OF FACT I HAVE POSTED ABOUT MY MILITARY SERVICE - AND YET
AFTER YEARS OF BROOK'S CLAIMING SUCH A DOCUMENT EXISTS IN MY RECORDS -
HE RUNS, HIDES AND PISSES HIS PANTIES EACH TIME I ISSUE OR POST THIS
CHALLENGE!
Obviously, Nigel Brooks and his other gang members that have
referenced my military records in any manner have been conning, and
using serial lying and fraud about this issue for years - and if you
do not believe Nigel Brooks is a con man and fraud merchant by now
you need to wake up and smell the cons and bullshit burning that comes
from these dregs and clowns.
http://tinyurl.com/lwelno My disclaimer and more information about
Nigel Brooks cons and fraud can be found in the above URL. My
standard disclaimer applies to this post and all of my other USENET
posts, past, present or future.
(Note that Nigel Brooks and some of his hate/smear/con gang members
maintain web sites and a Google Newsgroup designed specifically to
defame me with fraud, serial lying, outright con man fraud, and of
course libel, which forces me to rebut their fraud with these truthful
rebuttals.
I have offered Nigel Brooks (and/or any of his con/hate/smear gang
members) the opportunity to take their fraud and false accusations to
the American Association of Arbitrators, or to any legal department of
any University they select, and if either of those entities agree with
Nigel Brooks in respect to his accusations about me, I will pay for
their services. HOWEVER, if those legal experts agree that my
rebuttals are correct and accurate, then Nigel Brooks and/or his
smear/hate/con gang members pay for the independent legal analysis.
Nigel Brooks and his gang members run, duck, hide, cower, piss their
pants, and snivel pathetic excuse after pathetic excuse to hide from
and refuse my hundreds of offers to take this issue to independent
legal experts. . . and the reason is obvious - they know they are
lying.
Please be advised further this article (the same as all of my past
articles and exchanges with posters) represents an editorial on
contemporary issues and events - my opinion. Nothing in this article
represents in any manner any asseveration of biographical fact, nor is
about, directed toward or against any particular person - other than
those specifically mentioned herein. This article is being posted for
entertainment purposes only. If any person finds this post personally
annoying, abusive, offensive, defaming or otherwise disturbing,
please notify me of your specific reasons for annoyance via email at
legal...@comcast.net.
If we find your detailed objections reasonable (considering the
"reasonable person" doctrine and case law) we will then remove this
post, or the offending passages contained therein, from the Google
archive, publicly apologize and retract.
My intent is to entertain, and to present articles to USENET readers
prior to publication to determine interest, and not to annoy, abuse,
humiliate, or in any way cause anyone emotional harm by posting on
USENET or elsewhere. Please also note that defending myself from
harassment and obloquy with rebuttal posts has been deemed a "lawful
and legitimate" publication by my legal counsel. If I am not attacked,
libeled, defamed or harassed, or my copyrighted articles not
interrupted nor infringed upon, I clearly do not have a reason to
respond with a rebuttal.
Please also note that I intend to notify any and all ISP's and web
hosts of any annoying or calumnious post, web site or other similar
entity about me after I give the offender an opportunity to retract,
apologize and remove said post from the Google archive.
SMEAR MERCHANT DISCLAIMER TWO: Considering the typical ridiculous,
absurd and obviously false claims about my military service that
originates from the crackpot smear and con gang that operates on
alt.war.Vietnam, I also hereby certify and attest this article is NOT
a secret coded message that only gang members can decode with their
secret Federal Agent/Sp4 draftee/former Junior Reserve Officer/ midget
decoder and mind reading rings.
This means the Brownie crackpots' inevitable accusations and howls
that this article is really me claiming in a special soothsaying code
(a code only crackpots et al smear gang can only read of course which
involves their typical claim the American Heritage Dictionary's
definition's of simple terms, such as "we" "estimated" "involved"
"retired from" and "not representing any biographical claim" are all
incorrect, and only their "special interpretations of the English
language can apply to all English terms I use, and of course the gang's
standard nonsensical mind reading and soothsaying claims that (1) I
was a CIA cross border assassin that sniper killed Ho Chi Minh,
HOORAH - (2) that I personally killed 1803 enemy soldiers in Vietnam
and then feasted on their bodies (burp) (3) that I was a secret member
of the Mi Lai massacre, (let God sort them out) that I hunted down and
murdered unarmed Priests (take that choir boy) (4) that I was trained
by the Martian Army on Mars, and I have green blood, and retractable
fangs (slurp), (5) that the movie "Rambo" was copied after my deeds in
Vietnam and I still live in caves in the northwest (6) and best of
all, I went to the Carlisle War College to study WWII tactics even
before I was born!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHHA.
Needless to say, the smear gang misrepresentations of my past posts
are of course, not true.
I have posted dozens of times on USENET that I will not post
autobiographical facts about my life on USENET in any detail. Only a
quip now and then. And, if anyone wants to know the true facts, or a
clarification of any quip, or more information and details about an
issue which are clearly missing in my quips they must first contact
me via email, identify themselves, and then I will determine if I want
to exchange such personal information with them.
Although the above is my standing offer, I should mention that NOT ONE
member of the gang has ever contacted me directly over any one of my
posts. It is clear the gang does not want to know about obvious
typos, errors, and occasional ambiguities, nor clarifications, nor
corrections, nor do they even want verification whether I was the
actual author of the post in question. (Note although the above
statement is as clear as it can be - some smear merchants have
deliberately *averted their eyes* from this key disclaimer paragraph
for years - and ridiculously attempted to claim did not include all
past, present and future posts in this disclaimer - which of course
clearly is a lie. But for their fraudulent benefit - I *again*
reiterate this disclaimer applies to all of my posts, exchanges and
USENET writings, past, present and future. I further reserve the
right to use any type of fiction, non-fiction, hyperbole,
autobiographical fiction, embellishments and quips in my writings as I
see fit, whenever I wish, and I will not be censored by smear/hate and
con gangs).
And regardless of forgeries and discarded posts found in my waste
basket that were thrown there because of an error or typist
misstatement by one of our typist's, I have posted about two dozen
times in the past that my time in South America was spent (other than
an assignment and short visit to Southern Command after I left
Vietnam) exclusively as a Civilian working for Montana Western Oil and
Gas or PCA, which evidence proving such was scanned and posted years
ago.
Also, in response to the smear gang's et al repeated and convenient
outright lie and fraud that I never said that others were using the
same accounts to post on USENET as I did until the smear gang leaders
started their fraud, con and smear campaign against me and thereby
forced me to post on this newsgroup to defend myself, please see the
following proof that of course the gang leaders et al have been caught
lying again:
http://tinyurl.com/6d4aay TYPISTS' GALORE POST proves there were about
71 previous posts prior to the gang's glaring lie that I never
mentioned others posting under the same accounts I used until after
the gang leaders started to use a few typos, errors and post fragments
written by many different people, years apart, never written on any
military forum, deceptively spliced together with forged words added
into or subtracted from the hodgepodge of different context post
fragments so as to fraudulently alter their meaning or context.
http://tinyurl.com/7kfaqz Experts on Smear Gangs reveal what the
Nigel Brooks con/hate and smear gang is all about.
http://tinyurl.com/bu3dwb Those that Label Others KOOKS suffer a
psychosis named EID say psychologists - and that so-called "Kook"
votes never occur outside of the smear gang.
http://tinyurl.com/5o59lr Nigel Brooks' lies about receiving medals
he never received, and lies about serving in war campaigns and in
reactionary forces long after he had already left active duty.
http://tinyurl.com/bxrf2b US Government Web Site and independent
Experts on the US Military confirm Nigel Brooks and many of his
smear/hate and con gang lied about my military service and my military
records. (This read is important as the gang is claiming that my
military records disproved or prove various things they have
fraudulently claimed about me. However, in truth we find those gang
accusations and claims to be nothing more than outright cons and
fraud. Brooks and Rau and other gang members have been lying about
the contents of my records for years. Above represents clear and
irrefutable proof of their fraud and false accusations.
http://tinyurl.com/ddogy4 Proof of just a few of Nigel Brooks
outright forgeries which he has used to fraudulently defame and smear
me - yes *forgeries* - fraud and deception from Nigel Brooks running
rampant.
Purple Heart Defamation from the gang revealed and rebutted.
Irrefutable proof the gang has been using outright fraud, defamation
and forgeries to smear and defame in respect to this issue.
http://tinyurl.com/pomzo7 05/21/09
YET ANOTHER Investigator confirms the smear/hate gang lied about
Purple Heart medal claims. Also, all those times I said I did not
have a PH Medal, which the gang has been maliciously hiding.
Http://tinyurl.com/q6pk56 The smear/hate gang's fraudulent
accusation "I said I was a Hero" proved the fraud and lie it is: In
fact - I said the *exact opposite* as these several past posts clearly
prove. Once again the gang has been exposed lying about something
they have been forging and lying about for years. Hate and smear
gangs always attempt to paint their smear victims in a false and
defaming light - this is clearly the Nigel Brooks hate/smear and con
gang's purpose and mantra.
Here Nigel Brooks admits that he is not claiming I claimed I had a
purple heart medal - which contradicts not only Nigel Brooks
subsequent false accusations numbering in the hundreds, but including
his gang's fraud on this issue, it also contradicts similar fraud and
false accusations numbering in the *thousands!*
I said as the following URL clearly proves:
1http://tinyurl.com/y3yvb9 In this post I make it clear that I
referenced a Purple Heart Card and not a Purple Heart Medal - and the
difference between the two.
Nigel Brooks said:
2http://tinyurl.com/y3yvb9
In the above URL, Mr. Brooks also provided the following very clear
statement about this issue:
"He's doing the same now - by trying to insert the word "medal" into
the argument. Well no-one is accusing him of claiming to have had a
"Purple Heart Medal" - but the record shows he has claimed to have had
a Purple Heart **(VA service connected ID card)** and that he
received it in a real war. " (Emphasis added).
Obviously, Nigel Brooks above agreed and confirmed that I never said I
had a purple heart medal. Strange Nigel and his gang would
conveniently "forget" Nigel's conclusion about this issue after I
started proving they had lied about this issue all along - as the
above posts clearly prove?
Gang Preposterously Claims "Fiction" is "Lying."
When Brooks read my "shoot around little girl" or "shoot little girl"
post (for about the tenth time and counting) he said the following:
http://tinyurl.com/q9r9to May 22, 2009
"I would hazard a guess that the story is complete bullshit and that
Reiman never shot a 4 or 5 year old Vietnamese girl, otherwise
such an admission made in a public forum is astounding.
>>>> Nigel Brooks "
Then *after* I responded to Brooks (see URL above) and told him that
of course it was pure fiction just like my disclaimer states hundreds
of times. Brooks then reversed himself and wrote:
" he was in fact claiming that whilst he was in Vietnam he was >
forced to shoot a 4 or 5 year old Vietnamese child, who he claims was
attempting to kill him or his compatriots with an explosive device
concealed in a package of cigarettes.
>
> Now that is the logical interpretation of his post. In that post he
> says nothing about it being a fictional account or a debating
> method. The post stands by itself."
Nigel Brooks"
We all know, the WORLD knows, that when Fiction is used in any article
or prose it is NEVER identified as Fiction! Mark Twain even said
that Fiction has to be more believable than non-fiction or it loses
its effectiveness! According to Brainless Brooks, each time an author
uses Fiction to embellish or add interest to a story, he must tell
the reader in that same article he is using Fiction! This claim by BB
is about the most ridiculous, idiotic statement I have ever heard
about the use of Fiction, and it directly contradicts ALL authors,
prose instruction, and journalism 101 in every University in the
World!
So once again we have another Nigel Brooks arrogant first, now he is
claiming he knows more about writing Fiction than Mark Twain and all
Universities in the world!
I cannot decide if Nigel Brooks is arrogantly stupid, or just
arrogant? Or perhaps both? I will leave that decision up to the
readers.
http://tinyurl.com/madq65 In this post I point out that I have told
Nigel Brooks and his hate/con smear gang members *more than a thousand
times* (evidenced by Google archives) that I *DO NOT* post
autobiographical statements of fact on USENET - and if someone wants
to know whether what I post is Fiction, Non-Fiction, or whatever, they
*must contact me* and ask for more details.
I also posted that I DO NOT post autobiographical statements of facts
about myself on USENET as far back as 2001, and repeated that general
disclaimer statement in early 2003. Nigel Brooks and his smear/hate
con gang did not start their smear campaign against me until 2005,
*and Nigel Brooks and his gang even referenced and mentioned the post
in 2003 when I said I do not post autobiographical facts about me on
USENET - so they *knew* all along they were lying about the context
and meaning of quips they removed from my posts.
When an Author tells you MORE THAN A THOUSAND TIMES he is NOT posting
exclusively non-fiction on USENET, you would think that statement by
the author would resonate into even the pea brains of con men, smear
merchants and hate group leaders. Which of course it did as they
acknowledged this statement (Tom Rau whined and confirmed he read my
disclaimer more than 270 times) - but this fact had to be hidden by
such people so they could further their obviously fraudulent smear and
con defamation campaigns.
SELF ADMITTED AND SELF ACCLAIMED "TROLLS" OPERATE NIGEL BROOKS SMEAR
GANG'S MOST UNETHICAL FRAUD, SERIAL LYING AND CON MAN FALSE
ACCUSATIONS!
Many of the most vociferous and deceptive Nigel Brooks' key smear
gang members self-describe themselves as "Trolls."
These self-acclaimed and self-described *Trolls* have posted
hundreds of defaming statements and libel about me under those very
revealing Troll self-descriptions. (See alt.war.vietnam troll
section - you will find ALL of the self-described Trolls are connected
to Nigel Brooks and his gang's defamation and smear campaigns).
As just one example, here is the latest FBI forgery direct from a
Nigel Brooks smear/hate gang member that self-describes himself as a
"Troll." Note the gang member is again fraudulently using the name
of the FBI to smear and defame - which as we all know is a criminal
act.
It is obvious these Nigel Brooks smear/hate gang members will resort
to and use criminal acts to further the gang's smear and vilification
campaigns:
"Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.alt.net
From: Troll #351 <Leon...@sistine.va>
Newsgroups:
alt.war.vietnam,alt.politics,alt.news-media,alt.military,alt.military.retired,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: That Second FBI Phone Transcript betwixt Mr.Doug Grant-tm
and the FBI
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 23:55:46 -0700"
Considering the self-description of these gang members as "Trolls" and
their propensity to use criminal acts (using the name of the FBI for
nefarious purposes is a criminal act - Federal and Brooks knows it)
to defame Nigel Brook's targeted hate/smear victim, can anyone out
there actually believe anything Nigel Brooks or any of his gang
members say about anyone?
If you do then you are admitting that you are de facto stating that
you believe people that are *telling you up front they are liars and
con men!* BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Question:
If you actually believe someone that is telling you up front that he
is lying to you, what would best describe you: (1) a moron (2) a
drooling moron (3) a member of the Nigel Brooks smear and con gang -
or perhaps all three?
Lawyers Speak "again"
All should know and be hereby informed that hate messages of any kind,
serial lying, fraud, libel, (which of course includes intentional and
malicious defamation and libel by omitting key facts) and other
publications of any kind will be recorded and used against the
perpetrator in a legal action. This is especially true for those
owners and participants in smear/hate web sites and hate newsgroups
which are used to further and facilitate hate and smear campaigns
against individuals.
Nigel Brooks Admits Gang Conspiracy to Smear/Hate/Con and Defame
From Nigel Brooks post dated: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:21:49 -0800
Jack:
"I just realized that you've been left off the listserv and you
probably were not aware that at the last general meeting the majority
decided that unless there was extreme provocation, it would
be our policy that no-one would respond to his diatribes anymore
(SerbonianBogGroupMeeting ByLaw IV(b)(1) adopted November 12, 2009).
Any individual wishing to respond should preface the response with
the phrase "SBG ByLaw ExemptionIV(b)(1)"
> Nigel Brooks
Doug's Rebuttal: Nigel Brooks and his hate/smear/con gang have posted
not less than eight thousand fraudulent, false, misleading, deceptive,
defaming and false light posts about me. I have just started to rebut
Mr. Brooks and his hate gang's fraud with only a few hundred
rebuttals. Nigel Brooks knows he cannot refute the truth, and he
pisses his panties each time I offer him the opportunity for any
independent Arbitration or University Law Department legal analysis of
what he has posted about me, and my rebuttals, in respect to the truth
of the issue, loser pays.
Mr. Brooks realizes that if his gang responds to my rebuttals that
will expand them, and the *last thing* a con man like Nigel Brooks
wants is the truth to be expanded so the readers will learn the truth
about him and his hate gang.
End Disclaimer - Rebuttal Begins below:
******************************************************************************
******************************************************************************
"Nigel Brooks" <1.nb...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:7meg8bF...@mid.individual.net...
Doug's Rebuttal:
More FBI forgeries from Nigel Brooks and his hate/con/ smear gang. The
smear and con gang is back forging FBI reports to help them smear and
defame their targeted victims.
Is there any doubt members of the Nigel Brooks con/smear and hate
gang will resort to any unethical tactic and fraud and con to smear
their victims - while ducking, running and hiding from my truthful
rebuttals as they know they cannot refute the truth?
This idiot actually forged my post to make it appear that I posted the
forged FBI report - what a con man!
Obviously, Nigel and his cabal of frauds and smear merchants know they
cannot refute anything I say in my rebuttals to Nigel Brooks serial
lying and cons, so they resort to such unethical tactics as forging
FBI reports and similar frauds:
Like I said, this hate gang will resort to any kind of fraud to smear
and defame.
Yet also note that Tom Rau ducked and hid from the following facts
and that he clearly uses juxtaposing and confluence to smear and con
readers that he is only interested in exposing fake military types.
This fraud tactic is a well-known con and fraud, and we have seen
Nigel Brooks use the same con on his web sites for profit (cons for
profit - a new Internet scam apparently):
What smear merchants and con men do is juxtapose or confluence some
real fakes and frauds with those innocent victims the con men wish to
smear and defame. This adds credibility to their fraud and cons they
post about their targeted smear victim, and actually makes some
readers believe some of their outrageous fraud, false accusations and
serial lying they post about other Vets. This fraud is a well known
con man mantra, and one that is apparently being used by both Nigel
Brooks and Tom Rau.
I was first told about this well-known con and fraud by my lawyer
Peter Shaver who had encountered the same con tactic being used by
other and similar hate/con and smear gangs like the Nigel Brooks
hate/con/and smear gang. The Von Brunn hate gang used the same kind of
fraud tactics as just one example:
Tom Rau also never mentions another member of his hate gang that has
spent 30 years in the US Military, never been able to achieve a rank
above Junior NCO, never went to Vietnam, yet posts on a Vietnam Vet
forum - talk about a wannabe! But Rau never mentions this clown
because he too is a gang member. See below for the other gang member's
Rau "hypocritically fails to mention" when he conjures up someone to
falsely accuse.
If Rau was genuine in his whines and wails about fake military types
stealing the valor of real vets he would do the following:
1. He would never falsely accuse other vets of lying about their
military service. Which he does regularly.
2. He would mention the outrageous frauds and lies and wannabe
bullshit his fellow hate gang members have posted about their military
service - especially Nigel Brooks who has lied profusely about his
service.
3. He would at least mention the fact the officers that wrote up news
artices and after action reports in Vietnam testified (under oath)
before congress they were ordered to lie in those reports. These
reports were used to provide medals to officers and hospital workers
and others in Vietnam. This fraud apparently, according to the very
officers and NCO's that wrote the reports, was rampant, wide-spread,
and used often. How many Vietnam officers received medals based upon
fake after action reports? Or how many officers received medals based
upon after action reports they or their chums wrote up - similar to
the John Kerry after action reports?
Rau NEVER mentions the above - therefore his claims to be exposing
those that are stealing the valor of real vets is obviously
disingenuous.
Rau also must know and realize that people like he and his hate gang
that lie or defame real veteran's honorable service are the ones that
are guilty of stealing valor from those they defame, smear, and lie
about.
So if Tom Rau is looking for someone that is stealing the valor of
Vietnam Vets, he should start with his hall mirror.
Doug Grant (Tm)
>>> > How about the
>>> >anonymous cyberstalker SteveL that works with you and Brooks in
>>> >posting fake FBI reports
>>>>>>
>>> > and goes from forum to forum attacking real
>>> >vets, and fraudulently claiming they lied about their military
>>> >service
>>>
Doug Grant (Tm)
DGVREIMAN
"Dai Uy" <Dai...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:199d8662-67f0-4aec...@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
"My motives were not meant to harm or dishonor those who have
fought and bled for this country. My motives were quite personal and
at times painful." He added, "Living this daily lie was born out of a
tragic need to be someone people looked up to and admired."
Doug's Rebuttal:
Mr. Rau, considering that you NEVER EVEN MENTION the fraud, false
claims and absolute bullshit your fellow gang members have posted or
said about their military service, and you attempt to interlace or
confluence real frauds like this Perelman fraud with those innocent
Veterans you have lied, conned and falsely accused, it appears to me
at least that your hypocrisy and fraud in connection with your posting
about obvious frauds has a malicious and ulterior motive.
Do you really believe that if you intermix your cons, fraud, lies,
false accusations and general dishonor in your attacks against real
veterans by lying about their military service with stories of real
con men, that have lied about their service, and claimed medals they
never were awarded, will turn your smear campaigns and con man
bullshit into something believable?
You cannot be serious! Now if you wish to apologize and retract for
all the fraud and lies and cons you have posted about me, and expose
the fraud your fellow gang members have posted or said about their
military service, I might start to believe you have found a way to
return to the ethical and honorable world.
No one likes frauds and wannabe's Rau, and worse, no one likes former
junior reserve officers that attack real combat veterans and steals
their valor via lies, cons, frauds and false accusations. Like you
do, for instance.
We can start with you apologizing for your fraud, cons and outright
lies that (1) I never went to Vietnam (2) I was never in combat (3)
that I never made SFC E-7 in Vietnam, and (4) that I ever claimed that
I had a Purple Heart Medal - among volumes of other frauds, false
accusations and lies you have often posted about me, including but not
limited to fraudulent FBI reports.
Doug Grant (Tm)
Pepperoni
news:7NadncDwsJJexprW...@giganews.com:
>
> We can start with you apologizing for your fraud, cons and outright
> lies that ...... I ever claimed that
> I had a Purple Heart Medal ....
Nigel Brooks
"Pepperoni" <tras...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CC9E54E8E51Ct...@74.209.136.93...
A review of that post including the sparring leading up to it, along with
other posts the author claimed about having been wounded in Vietnam can only
lead a reasonable and prudent individual to one conclusion.
Nigel Brooks
Mac
<dgvr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>We can start with you apologizing for your fraud, cons and outright
>lies that (1) I never went to Vietnam (2) I was never in combat (3)
>that I never made SFC E-7 in Vietnam, and (4) that I ever claimed that
>I had a Purple Heart Medal
========================
I believe Mr. Rau has corrected himself that you had served in the
military and also in Vietnam.
There is no indication that you were in combat.
Regarding your claim pertaining to SFC E-7, you also claimed that
you went to OCS and returned as a ButterBAr.
FINALLY: regarding your claim that you had a Purple Heart medal.
For that, you own words should be sufficient.
Anyone reading the following would have no difficulty in coming to the
conclusion you strove so desperately to impart....
===============================================
Here is a copy of your ORIGINAL POST in that thread.
I've included the DATE, the SUBJECT, the groups... so others can
find this and verify what you originally posted in your attempt to
belittle Chip.
I believe that he and you for this conversation were #16 AND #17 in
this thread...
=========== ===========
Newsgroups: alt.news-media, alt.politics, alt.politics.usa,
alt.politics.usa.congress, alt.security.terrorism
From: "DGVREIMAN" <dggr...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 22:22:46 GMT
Local: Sun, Feb 16 2003 2:22�pm
Subject: Re: Al Qaeda Says Saddam an Infidel
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:56:03 GMT, �DGVREIMAN allegedly wrote...
Doug Says: �We declared war on terrorism. �Saddam is
supporting, financing, arming, training, aiding and harboring
terrorists.
Duh. �I suspect that you do not have clue about what you are
talking about, and I further suspect you have never seen a
shot fired in anger in your life.
CHIP STATED:
> I have a Purple Heart and a CAR that proves you wrong, Dougie.
> There are other countries, some that are our allies, who are
much more active in supporting and arming terrorists...yet you want
to go after Iraq because you don't have the will to go after them.
That, to me is cowardice.
Doug Says: �
I have a Purple Heart also, and I received �mine in a
real war, I can't imagine where you got yours since you have
never fought in a war. �About the only place you could have
received a purple heart was in Lebanon, and that was not a
shooting war, just a bombing due to the ineptitude of a gang of
Marine officers. �In respect to deposing Saddam, I am the one
advocating removing Saddam, you are the one advocating cowering,
hiding, and doing nothing. �It is pretty clear who the coward is
around here. �BTW, bragging about a Purple Heart not received in
combat is about as cowardly as it gets.
====================================
Then, after you were challenged on the above, and the above was
reported to STOLEN VALOR and several veterans organizations
and also local media, you stated the following:
Newsgroups: alt.news
From: "DGVREIMAN" <dgvrei...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:55:23 -0700
Local: Wed, Jun 11 2008 10:55�am
Subject: Al Qaeda Says Saddam an Infidel
Doug Says: I have a Purple Heart Card also, and I received mine in a
real war, I can't imagine where you got yours since you have never
fought in a war. About the only place you could have received a purple
heart card was in Lebanon, and that was not a shooting war, just a
bombing due to the ineptitude of a gang of Marine officers. In respect
to deposing Saddam, I am the one advocating removing Saddam, you are
the
one advocating cowering, hiding, and doing nothing. It is pretty clear
who the coward is around here. BTW, bragging about a Purple Heart Card
not received in combat is about as cowardly as it gets.
Note: A purple heart medal cannot be awarded other than in combat.
Consequently, Chip must be talking about a Purple Heart VA ID card. My
purple heart card reference in my reply is not about the medal, but is
only referencing a purple heart ID card provided by the Veterans'
Administration for service connected disabilities which I have.
=====================================
However, you have claimed to have been WOUNDED.
You have also claimed to have a Purple Heart.
-Mac, the Medic
DGVREIMAN
"Mac" <NoSpa...@NoSpamToday.net> wrote in message
news:607fg5hh84tfron0v...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:17:21 -0800, "DGVREIMAN"
> <dgvr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>We can start with you apologizing for your fraud, cons and outright
>>lies that (1) I never went to Vietnam (2) I was never in combat (3)
>>that I never made SFC E-7 in Vietnam, and (4) that I ever claimed
>>that
>>I had a Purple Heart Medal
> ========================
> I believe Mr. Rau has corrected himself that you had served in the
> military and also in Vietnam.
Doug's Rebuttal:
Mr. Rau has never corrected himself nor apologized for that fraud and
the rest of his fraud as well.
> There is no indication that you were in combat.
Doug's Rebuttal: Mr. McDonnell, your statement above is a complete
and total lie and represents outrageous defamation. The 25th Infantry
Division archives proves otherwise, as does entries in my Military
records. Moreover, when did you review my military records, and how
did you obtain them? If you claim you have never seen them, then
obviously you have admitted to an outright fraud.
> Regarding your claim pertaining to SFC E-7, you also claimed that
> you went to OCS and returned as a ButterBAr.
I said I returned and was forced to act as a butter bar as a SFC E-7.
> FINALLY: regarding your claim that you had a Purple Heart medal.
> For that, you own words should be sufficient.
Doug's Rebuttal: Mr. McDonnell: Yuur statement above that I claimed
that I had a Purple Heart Medal is outrageously fraudulent, false, and
represents nothing more than malcious defamation. You know I have
posted several times that I do NOT have such a medal, and my only
reference to anything to do with a purple heart was that of a purple
heart VA ID CARD - which has been verified several times by military
experts, and further verified within 90 days of the Feb 2003 post in a
subsequent post.
I hereby demand that you retract your fraudulent accusation and
defamation immediately or face further legal action for such malcious
and outrageous fraud and your obvious deliberate harassment.
Doug Grant (Tm)
Hiccum Blurpaedius
> "Mac" <NoSpamTo...@NoSpamToday.net> wrote in message
All I hear in the US is fraud. The government should be sued for
malice and forced religion. You should be destroyed.
tankfixer
dgvr...@comcast.net says...
>
> I said I returned and was forced to act as a butter bar as a SFC E-7.
But you didn't SAY that.. did you..
Mac McKinzie
he still hasn't....he left Ft Benning and went to Vietnam later. wasn't
any 'return' to it still a marroon
tankfixer
awrli...@hotmail.com says...
Try, after OCS booted his sorry ass the Army had to send him someplace..
Since France was of so little consequence by then he could do little
damage there..
Or was Doug the reason France asked the US to remove our forces from the
country ?
Say it isn't so !
Nigel Brooks
Nominated for December 2009 post of the month.
Nigel Brooks
Mac
>dgvr...@comcast.net says...
> I said I returned and was forced to act as a butter bar as a SFC E-7.
==========================================
Oh, really ??
Gee, here is what you posted.
Your words are rather clear.
DOUG GRANT and O.C.S. ---�ButterBars�...
Newsgroups: alt.news-media, alt.politics, alt.politics.usa,
alt.politics.usa.congress, alt.security.terrorism
From: "DOUGLAS G.V. REIMAN" <dggr...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 07:34:31 -0800
Local: Sun, Dec 23 2001 10:34�am
Subject: Re: Military Experts on FOX & CNN?
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Joe, the sad truth is the Brits are right. �I went through three
Butter Bars during my first tour in Vietnam (as a SFC) then I
went to OCS and returned as a Butter Bar myself. �Half of my
graduating class in OCS Ft. Benning ended up dead or wounded.
Doug Grant (Tm)
COMMENTS:
As for his claim regarding O.C.S. he did go.
He did NOT complete O.C.S.
He was in that especial barracks inside of a month.
He was then sent ---NOT back to Vietnam--- but over to Europe.
FINALLY, he insists that NCO's were called "ButterBars"...
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DGVREIMAN
CLASSIC SMEAR GANG FRAUD -REBUTTAL
http://tinyurl.com/ygy52yg Smear Merchant Disclaimer which applies to
this post: (2010 disclaimer).
Please see the following post and my rebuttal to better understand how
Nigel Brooks works with and incites his hate/smear/con gang members to
post libel, fraud and obloquy to further their smear and con
vilification.
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From: "Nigel Brooks" <1. nbr...@msn.com>
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Subject: Re: Bogus 'Hero' dies...
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 12:07:02 -0600
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"Nigel Brooks" <nbr...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:7q6ru8...@mid.individual.net...> "tankfixer"
Doug's Rebuttal to the above obvious fraud: We all know that my
military records show that I was promoted from E-5 to SSG E-6 via a
recommendation for promotion by the very OCS school that this idiot
claims "booted me." Anyone that has ever been in the US Army knows
people that are booted are not then promoted to SSG E-6 and sent to
France. I have posted several times the reason I initially left OCS,
and it was due to an emergency leave, and I had *retured* and was
waiting for another class when I was offered the promotion and the
France assignment. The US Army was desperate for French speaking
soldiers that could do the job they wanted done while we were pulling
our troops out of France and sending them to Germany.
The person that posted above clearly has very limited or zero
knowledge about the US Army if the believe that those booted are then
promoted by those doing the booting to SSG E-6. Pathetic.
>
> Nominated for December 2009 post of the month.
> > Nigel Brooks
Doug's Rebuttal: This is classic Nigel Brooks. He knows what the
person posted above about OCS booting me was complete fraud, total
lies, and contradictory to what Nigel Brooks has even posted about my
promotion to SSG E-6 after I agreed to leave OCS and accept the France
assignment offer.
Nigel Brooks knows and has posted herein that my records confirms that
I was promoted within eight days after I arrived in France, and he
also knows that independent military experts have confirmed I could
have only been promoted in a replacement unit in France with a
recommendation for promotion from my previous commander, anyone that
was really in the US Army would know that fact. Apparently the
original poster was never in the US Army, or knows so pitiful little
about it he could never make it out of the Junior NCO ranks.
But even with the clear knowledge he is reproducing cons, fraud,
serial lying, defamation and outright fraud, he nominates his fellow
gang's fraud for "post of the month." This unethical act is very
typical of Nigel Brooks.
Doug Grant (Tm)
>
Mac
<dgvr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>"Mac" <NoSpa...@NoSpamToday.net> wrote in message
>news:607fg5hh84tfron0v...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:17:21 -0800, "DGVREIMAN"
>> <dgvr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>We can start with you apologizing for your fraud, cons and outright
>>>lies that (1) I never went to Vietnam (2) I was never in combat (3)
>>>that I never made SFC E-7 in Vietnam, and (4) that I ever claimed
>>>that
>>>I had a Purple Heart Medal
>> ========================
>> I believe Mr. Rau has corrected himself that you had served in the
>> military and also in Vietnam.
===========================
>Doug's Rebuttal:
>
>Mr. Rau has never corrected himself nor apologized for that fraud and
>the rest of his fraud as well.
===========================
I believe that your rebuttal is in error.
I believe I remember that Dai Uy had challenged whether or not you had
been in Vietnam, and even in the military.
Upon Mr. Brooks doing that F.O.I.A. and indicating the variance of
some of your claims and reality, it was very clear that you had spent
years in the military and that you had also been in Vietnam.
I believe that Dai Uy apologized and conceded those two points.
-Mac, the Medic