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From: Joel Edge <joele...@planttel.net>
Newsgroups: alt.war.civil.usa
Subject: Re: Mr Edge's Goal in Life - Defeating the Democrats
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:25:28 -0500
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:19:31 -0500, slotrot wrote
(in article 
<8756d927-5f6b-4909-be25-726e6e52d...@r6g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>):

> On Nov 6, 8:00�am, Joel Edge <joele...@planttel.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 07:18:21 -0500, slotrot wrote
>> (in article
>> <89a95fc1-d8a1-4359-8958-89b0660d4...@c16g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>):
>> 
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>>> On Nov 5, 6:47�am, Joel Edge <joele...@planttel.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 14:35:59 -0500, A.Lur...@who-knows-where.com wrote
>>>> (in article <lhgd98pmiee8925ln5cgtamfi8u9pvf...@4ax.com>):
>> 
>>>>> On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 07:12:22 -0500, Joel Edge <joele...@planttel.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:45:13 -0500, A.Lur...@who-knows-where.com wrote
>>>>>> (in article <i3u798hr2mlp5ulojtqdsjpctcc1vcv...@4ax.com>):
>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 07:05:36 -0700 (PDT), slotrot <rtaub...@rogers.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 2, 8:58�am, Joel Edge <joele...@planttel.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 12:38:15 -0400, slotrot wrote
>>>>>>>>> (in article
>>>>>>>>> <430d847a-665a-4641-9159-79d8972ae...@g8g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>):
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 1, 9:16�am, Joel Edge <joele...@planttel.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:39:36 -0400, slotrot wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> (in article
>>>>>>>>>>> <5e648edc-d5e4-4b80-b86d-5a6b3e0de...@j10g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> ):
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you could help me understand your reticence to Obama's 
>>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>>> care plan.
>>>>>>>>>> For example, should you our someone in your family have an existing
>>>>>>>>>> health problem, would you be able to get health care insurance under
>>>>>>>>>> Obama's or Romney's plan?
>>>>>>>>>> If you or someone in your family developed a serious illness (God
>>>>>>>>>> forbid) and your insurance plan was expiring, would you be able to
>>>>>>>>>> renew under both plans?
>>>>>>>>>> What are monthly health care premium charges in the U.S. for
>>>>>>>>>> Medicaid?
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I may be taxed more than you, but I can go to the hospital and not 
>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>> a bill for treatment. �I pay $100.00 a year for my prescriptions,
>>>>>>>>>> total. �The $100.00 is the deductible under my provincial plan 
>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>> I am 65+.
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What do seniors in the U.S. have to worry about with Romney/Ryan
>>>>>>>>>> voucher system? �What happens to the 35-45 million people covered
>>>>>>>>>> under Obama's plan, but not Romney's?
>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Let them eat cake, she said, and she lost her head. �What do the
>>>>>>>>>> Russian and French revolutions have in common?
>> 
>>>>>>>>> You might want to go back a little earlier. Exactly when did this
>>>>>>>>> Medicare/Medicaid debacle begin? Have you ever considered what the 
>>>>>>>>> role
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the federal government is in health care? And as we poor money into 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> health industries pockets, what is the eventual outcome? Subsidizing
>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>> care only causes the cost to go up. End result, collapse. At some 
>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>> costs
>>>>>>>>> will have to be reigned in, hopefully before the cost eats it alive.
>>>>>>>>> Complaining about the might-be is a good plan.
>>>>>>>>> You get charged for prescriptions? Really! How long you do guess it's
>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>> to be before you charged for treatment?
>> 
>>>>>>>> I am charged for treatment. �In my taxes. �It isn't going to collapse
>>>>>>>> because of subsidies. �Perhaps if the oil, gas, military-industrial
>>>>>>>> complex wasn't subsidized, you might have enough money to take care of
>>>>>>>> the 99%.
>>>>>>>> You have to stop listening to the rhetoric of the doomsayers.
>>>>>>>> The government is supposed to be there for "the people". �Oh, I
>>>>>>>> forgot, corporations are people in the U.S.
>>>>>>>> Reign in your military costs, your subsidies to the corporations who
>>>>>>>> don't need subsidies, increase your taxes. �That would help.
>> 
>>>>>>>> I "don't" get charged for prescriptions after $100.00 deductible.
>>>>>>>> When will I be charged for treatment? �Not in the near future?
>> 
>>>>>>>> How much are your charges per month for health care insurance? �Are
>>>>>>>> they rising? �Who is getting the benefit of the increased costs? �The
>>>>>>>> insurance companies!!!!
>> 
>>>>>>>> IIRC, the U.S. is one of the few, if not the only country in the G8
>>>>>>>> that doesn't have a national health care plan. �Something like that
>>>>>>>> anyway. �I'll have to check further.
>> 
>>>>>>>> Remember to vote, regardless of who you vote for. �The only wasted
>>>>>>>> vote is a non-vote.
>> 
>>>>>>> Every industrialized nation in the world except the US has some sort
>>>>>>> of national health care. �But you've got realize that about 40% of the
>>>>>>> US population lives in a Republican fantasy world where health care is
>>>>>>> a privilege, not a right, where greed and selfishness are virtues and
>>>>>>> compassion is some sort of mental illness, and where millions upon
>>>>>>> millions of perfectly healthy people are living like kings and queens
>>>>>>> on welfare. �To say nothing of believing Obama is a Muslim Communist
>>>>>>> born in Kenya, science is bunk, and the world is only 6,000 years old.
>>>>>>> It's insane. �And it's scary. �And if left unchecked, it is the start
>>>>>>> of America's descent from greatness.
>> 
>>>>>> I just love it when you people make shit up out of the air.
>>>>>> We have a party that has dedicated itself to a larger government and 
>>>>>> ever
>>>>>> increasing taxes. No one in the Republican party made these decisions 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> them. You don't have to listen to me. Read their own press releases. At
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> point the Democrat party decided to embrace group or groups of people 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> work to their benefit. There are many people in this country that have
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> this decision willfully and promote certain groups at every opportunity.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> use these groups against each other and against everyone else. Recently
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> threatening violence. Divide and conquer. Look at he structure of the
>>>>>> Democrat party and tell me I'm wrong. We have unions vs corporations,
>>>>>> blacks
>>>>>> vs whites, haves vs have-nots, gay vs straight, greenies vs everyone. So
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> have a divisive party paying favors to various factions for continued
>>>>>> support
>>>>>> of that same party. What does that sound like? Fascism, maybe? No, we'll
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> call them socialists, it's a nicer term. The Dems have been pushing
>>>>>> divisive
>>>>>> politics for most of my life. Larger government and larger payouts to
>>>>>> party
>>>>>> factions. And, yes, it also favors corporate interests who play ball 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> party. As we've seen by the stimulas failure that went to supporters.
>>>>>> Didn't
>>>>>> do a lot for the jobs situation but that wasn't the point.
>>>>>> Now let's address the "greedy" issue. You do know that conservatives 
>>>>>> give
>>>>>> more to charity than liberals? Romney paid more in taxes and voluntarily
>>>>>> gave
>>>>>> more to charity than Obama and Biden put together by a wide margin.
>>>>>> Conservatives give, liberals take.
>>>>>> The 6000 year old thing crap is just that, crap.
>>>>>> Just so you'll know, our "descent from greatness" began in the sixties.
>>>>>> We've
>>>>>> been struggling to contain the misery in the world since then. I suspect
>>>>>> that's about over. The money will run out eventually. Lots of folks will
>>>>>> suffer when the collapse comes. I seem to be in the minority on this. A
>>>>>> lot
>>>>>> of folks don't see this happy bubble collapsing. Good luck with that.
>> 
>>>>> See what I mean, slotrot? �It's no accident Mr. Edge dates America's
>>>>> decent from greatness from the Civil Right Era which won blacks the
>>>>> right vote and a measure equality in the South. �And it's no accident
>>>>> Hugh, the great Southern liberal, worries obsessively about people in
>>>>> the North thinking of the South as un-American while casting a blind
>>>>> eye as to just why that might be.
>> 
>>>> Actually the 60's is the era of the spoiled flower children. Many of these
>>>> brats are still with us. I threw that in there so that you automatically
>>>> associate my comments with racial bias. I didn't, but you read into it 
>>>> what
>>>> you perceived.
>>>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> No I think you are misguided. �You can't abide anyone different than
>>> you.
>> 
>> You can't conceive of anyone disagreeing with you.
>> 
>>> Racial bias? �Don't know you personally so I can't comment.
>> 
>> You already did.
>> 
>> � However,
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>>> I do believe your presidential election race has a racial bias.
>> 
>>> Good luck tomorrow. �Not that anything will change for me.
> 
> The presidential election is not you, is it?  Read it again.

What racial bias are you referring to?