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From: Hugh Lawson <hu.law...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: slavery
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Wiregrass Willie <wiregrass_willieO...@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:08:24 -0400, Hugh Lawson <hu.law...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Which do you believe?
>>
>>1. Since slavery must expand or die, the Lincoln program of halting its
>>expansion was a death sentence. 
>>
>>2. The slaveowners would have been safe in the enjoyment of slaveowning
>>for generations had they not provoked a crisis by seceding.
>>
>>3.  Or, something else.
>>
>
> From my reading on  the subject,  I'd suggest that had there been no
> secession,    slavery would not have been abolished until about 1900.
> I suppose even the South would have had to give it up after Brazil did
> in 1895.    Even the larger planters would have gotten embarrassed
> being the only civilized people on Earth that practiced it. 
>
> On the other hand,  had the secession been successful,  I'd guess
> slavery in the Southern states would have remained until the early
> 1930s.    At which time the worldwide depression might have taken the
> glow off slave ownership. 


Here's a wikipedia on slavery's ending in Brazil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Brazil#The_end_of_slavery