Recording sound only on a VCR
Anonymous
available in the cables--I checked it with a cassette recorder. But
when I plug the sound into the front jacks of the vcr (for cam corder)
and set the VCR to record from the front jacks, I get nothing.
I'm using a JVC HR-VP658U.
TIA for any help you can offer.
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Eric
> I want to record sound from my stereo on my VCR. The sound is
> available in the cables--I checked it with a cassette recorder. But
> when I plug the sound into the front jacks of the vcr (for cam corder)
> and set the VCR to record from the front jacks, I get nothing.
> I'm using a JVC HR-VP658U.
Should work. Make sure your input select is set for the front A/V
(normally this is "L2".) If there is a rear L2, make sure "front"
is selected.
EK
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J. Slade
Anonymous wrote:
> I want to record sound from my stereo on my VCR. The sound is
> available in the cables--I checked it with a cassette recorder. But
> when I plug the sound into the front jacks of the vcr (for cam corder)
> and set the VCR to record from the front jacks, I get nothing.
> I'm using a JVC HR-VP658U.
>
> TIA for any help you can offer.
>
You might also try inputting some video along with that audio signal.
A few VCRs might not work well with audio only. I had a problem with my
Panasonic VCR when I tried to record audio only. The black screen kept
jittering rather than going to a blank screen. It didn't affect the sound
but it was damned annoying. So I plugged in my computers' video out and
started my screen saver. Let me know if this helps.
John
David Wood
on 11/2/99 8:28 PM:
if you are just using the VCR to record music, flashing pictures is a
non-issue...unless you are using your TV to reproduce this music...but why
would you want to do that?
J. Slade
David Wood wrote:
What I did was put a screen saver on with the audio to have a time
reference on my TV. My VCR doesn't have a counter on the unit only on screen.
So when I recorded sound without video the screen would roll and I couldn't
read the timer. So I used my computers video out. It worked well. Now some VCR
might need video to have the sound work. It might be a long shot but some VCRs
logic circuits might have that quirk. Probably won't work but wouldn't hurt to
try.:) BTW. I like recording audio to my VCR the sound is a lot better, the
tapes are longer and they are more reliable than audio cassettes IMO.
John
gbog...@mindspring.com
provide a horizontal and vertical sync reference for the head wheel and
capstan servos. With no video input, the servos won't sync and the hi-fi RF
heads won't track correctly, so the hi-fi audio channels will mute. Some
machines may have an audio only record function in which they generate their
own internal sync signals for the servos.
Greg Bogantz
gbog...@mindspring.com
Eric wrote in message <381B51E2...@homeboy.com>...
>Anonymous wrote:
>
>> I want to record sound from my stereo on my VCR. The sound is
>> available in the cables--I checked it with a cassette recorder. But
>> when I plug the sound into the front jacks of the vcr (for cam corder)
>> and set the VCR to record from the front jacks, I get nothing.
>> I'm using a JVC HR-VP658U.
>
Eric
> On most machines, you probably have to inject some video signal just to
> provide a horizontal and vertical sync reference for the head wheel and
> capstan servos. With no video input, the servos won't sync and the hi-fi RF
> heads won't track correctly, so the hi-fi audio channels will mute. Some
> machines may have an audio only record function in which they generate their
> own internal sync signals for the servos.
In 15 years, I've never had a VCR with the above problem. I record
audio only all the time. Some non Hi-Fi machines might exhibit this
problem, but not Hi-Fi machines. This goes back to the days of Beta.
My Sony Beta machines all record audio only, as do my Mitsubishi
VHS units.
Rod Gasson
Not wishing to contradict you Eric, but what was stated is quite factual,
both
for HifI machines and the non-hifi machines, but especially for the HiFi
machines.
Think about how the servos work in record mode - especially the CTL pulses.
These are
invariably derived by taking the 50Htz sync (frame) pulses and dividing them
down
to get the 25Htz CTL pulses - with no video signal these pulses don't exist
and
the machine will 'free-run' - which may be tolerable for the linear audio
track,
but totally unacceptable for a HiFi track. This effect/problem was quickly
solved though by
internally generating the required pulses when no video is present, and I
haven't seen
a machine suffer the problem for many years now. In fact I'd virtually
forgotten that
it ever was a problem until I saw this post.
It was never what I'd call a "serious" problem, and there was probably only
one or two models that
exhibited this behaviour, but nonetheless it did catch quite a few people
out (including myself).
Cheers
Rod
Eric
> Not wishing to contradict you Eric, but what was stated is quite factual,
> both
> for HifI machines and the non-hifi machines, but especially for the HiFi
> machines.
In the late 1980s, I was involved in a project that transmitted
300 baud data via satellite to home TVRO owners. We had people record
the "crickets", and later play the tape to their computer, like they
were connected to a BBS.
The only time we had trouble with sync was with *non* Hi-Fi VCRs.
Not one problem was phoned in for a Hi-Fi machine. Luck? Maybe, but
I prefer that the Hi-Fi machines sold here in the States somehow were
engineered to avoid the servo/sync problem.
Just my experience.
J. Slade
gbog...@mindspring.com wrote:
> On most machines, you probably have to inject some video signal just to
> provide a horizontal and vertical sync reference for the head wheel and
> capstan servos. With no video input, the servos won't sync and the hi-fi RF
> heads won't track correctly, so the hi-fi audio channels will mute. Some
> machines may have an audio only record function in which they generate their
> own internal sync signals for the servos.
I think that is the problem. I had a similar problem trying to record sound
without video on my Panasonic PV-4564. The sound worked but the video wouldn't
sync so it just rolled and I couldn't use the tape counter. So I input video and
it worked fine.
John
Mike O'Sullivan
off using the Scart sockets on the rear of your machine rather than the
front camcorder sockets.
J. Slade <hit...@tsoft.com> wrote in message
news:381F8FBC...@tsoft.com...
>
>
> Anonymous wrote:
>
> > I want to record sound from my stereo on my VCR. The sound is
> > available in the cables--I checked it with a cassette recorder. But
> > when I plug the sound into the front jacks of the vcr (for cam corder)
> > and set the VCR to record from the front jacks, I get nothing.
> > I'm using a JVC HR-VP658U.
> >
David Wood
O'Sullivan at mi...@barnaby0.demon.co.uk wrote on 11/21/99 9:57 AM:
> I do this all the time on two different Panasonic VCRs. You might be better
> off using the Scart sockets on the rear of your machine rather than the
> front camcorder sockets.
>
Why? Are your front camcorder jacks RCA? Or somthing else?
Here in the US, we don't have SCART at all. We are still using RCA for
video and audio in the consumer level.
Mike O'Sullivan
use, like for other people's camcorders. I always use an out-of-sight rear
SCART connection for permanent connection,,.
David Wood <dmw...@erols.com> wrote in message
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David Wood
O'Sullivan at mi...@barnaby0.demon.co.uk wrote on 11/21/99 2:45 PM:
> Well personally I only use the front phono sockets for occasional temporary
> use, like for other people's camcorders. I always use an out-of-sight rear
> SCART connection for permanent connection,,.
>
O,IC. I thought you were talking about it on a technical standpoint.
Ian
using a cable channel that has a continually running clock such as a menu channel.
Ian
"J. Slade" wrote:
> David Wood wrote:
>
> > in article 381F8FBC...@tsoft.com, J. Slade at hit...@tsoft.com wrote
> > on 11/2/99 8:28 PM:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anonymous wrote:
> > >
> > >> I want to record sound from my stereo on my VCR. The sound is
> > >> available in the cables--I checked it with a cassette recorder. But
> > >> when I plug the sound into the front jacks of the vcr (for cam corder)
> > >> and set the VCR to record from the front jacks, I get nothing.
> > >> I'm using a JVC HR-VP658U.
> > >>
> > >> TIA for any help you can offer.
> > >>
> > >
> > > You might also try inputting some video along with that audio signal.
> > > A few VCRs might not work well with audio only. I had a problem with my
> > > Panasonic VCR when I tried to record audio only. The black screen kept
> > > jittering rather than going to a blank screen. It didn't affect the sound
> > > but it was damned annoying. So I plugged in my computers' video out and
> > > started my screen saver. Let me know if this helps.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> >
Eric
> Hi-fi vcr's need a video signal to be recorded along with the audio. I prefer
> using a cable channel that has a continually running clock such as a menu channel.
I have three Hi-Fi VCRs. None of them need a video input to record audio.
Nhsns
>Ian wrote:
>
>> Hi-fi vcr's need a video signal to be recorded along with the audio. I
>prefer
>> using a cable channel that has a continually running clock such as a menu
>channel.
>
>I have three Hi-Fi VCRs. None of them need a video input to record audio.
If the VCR throws up a blue screen when there's no video signal present, then
it will not require a video signal.
Norm Strong (nh...@aol.com) or (no...@scn.org)
2528 31st South, Seattle WA 98l44
Mike O'Sullivan
only for years.
> I have three Hi-Fi VCRs. None of them need a video input to record audio.
>
>
Eric
> If the VCR throws up a blue screen when there's no video signal present, then
> it will not require a video signal.
Neither my Sony SLF600 or Mitsubishi U70 have blue screen, and they
both record audio only great. Same with my U795, which has a switchable
blue screen. It records audio only whether or not the blue screen is
switched on.