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Sinjin

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Jul 12, 2002, 7:41:03 AM7/12/02
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WJM

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Jul 12, 2002, 9:53:08 AM7/12/02
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"Sinjin" <nos...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/wkp-news-croc12f.html
>

That's the best/funniest review you ever read?!?

Jeeters

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"WJM" <wjmul...@msn.com> wrote in message
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I won't say it's the best/funniest for me (I wouldn't know what one is), but
I will admit to laughing out loud at a few of Eberts quotes...

"How, I am wondering, do you teach a 9-year-old to jump in and catch
crocodiles in the rivers of North Queensland at night? Is rehearsal
possible, or do you just get a lot of theory and then jump in? Is it child
abuse to tell your 9-year-old to wrestle crocodiles, or only Tough Love?"

"Studying the bio more closely, I realize that many of its sentences end
with an exclamation point. In the movie, nearly every sentence uttered by
Irwin does, although supporting players are allowed periods and question
marks. "

"Half of his sentences have only one word: "Crikey!" He says this frequently
while handling the dangerous creatures of the outback, which he likes to get
real close to, so they can snap at him during his lectures."

"we meet a "bird-eating" spider whose fangs contain venom that would kill
Steve, I dunno, a thousand times over, and he pokes it with a stick "

Mike Jackson

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Jul 12, 2002, 11:31:56 AM7/12/02
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> > http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/wkp-news-croc12f.html
> >
>
> That's the best/funniest review you ever read?!?

I write for a site (<shameless plug> www.dvdverdict.com </shameless plug>)
populated by aspiring comedy writers (or so it would seem), and Ebert's
review had me busting up. Maybe not the funniest review ever, but it's
definitely classic Roger Ebert.

Mike Jackson
Editor & Webmaster, DVD Verdict
www.dvdverdict.com

Mark Spatny

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Jul 12, 2002, 4:46:49 PM7/12/02
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The funniest review I ever read was for the movie "Hook", I think in Los
Angeles magazine.

It simply said "It's too bad this movie wasn't called 'Pan', but that
would have made my job too easy..."

Pupkin

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Jul 12, 2002, 5:52:42 PM7/12/02
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"Mark Spatny" <vfxpr...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://www.dvdjournal.com/quickreviews/d/dudewheresmycar.q.shtml

And, of course, just about anything by Alexandra DuPont at DVDJournal and
Aint-it-cool-news.


Pupkin

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Jul 12, 2002, 6:14:20 PM7/12/02
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David English

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Jul 13, 2002, 9:32:10 AM7/13/02
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One of the best/funniest (and certainly the shortest) is Leonard
Maltin's review of the 1948 film "Isn't It Romantic?" Here's the
complete review: "No."


In article <SbBX8.1751$2W5....@eagle.america.net>, wjmul...@msn.com
says...

WJM

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Jul 13, 2002, 1:15:08 PM7/13/02
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"Mike Jackson" <mjac...@barking-dog.net.NOSPAM> wrote in message
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Here's one:

2001: A Space Odyssey


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It's no coincidence that the first thing you see on screen during Stanley
Kubrick's epically long, epically dull space-opera is a boar. If you've
forgotten: The pre-human ape-men are sitting around in a field eating grass
and picking stuff out of each other's fur amidst the company of a herd of
wild boars. Then they learn how to beat each other with clubs, discover the
monolith and, faster than you can say "Blue Danube," it's the year 2001.

Give Kubrick credit though. A full year before Neil Armstrong had stepped
foot on the moon, Kubrick realized that, given all the distance between
objects, space is the ultimate in boring places and dared to make a movie
about it. The wild boars, then, turn out to be an apt foreshadowing.

Never mind the modernist furniture nightmare aboard the first space station;
never mind that the stewardesses on the space busses wear headgear that
makes them look like walking dildos; never mind that there's practically no
story. All we ask is that, after enduring all this nonsense, we be provided
an ending that makes at least a little bit of sense. Apparently, we ask too
much.

What the hell is going on in this film during the last half hour? What's the
deal with the big Hershey bar? Dave Bowman (Keir Dullea) has his run-in with
the monolith and suddenly we have the quintessentially '60s interpretation
of infinity: a bad LSD trip and a lava lamp. Through the meaning of the
sacred lava lamp, we discover this shocker: Men are merely children in the
vastness of the universe. No wonder those things were only a fad.

WJM

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Jul 13, 2002, 1:17:16 PM7/13/02
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"Mike Jackson" <mjac...@barking-dog.net.NOSPAM> wrote in message
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Here's another

Citizen Kane


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The people downstairs called the police when I wouldn't stopbeating my
television with a baseball bat at the conclusion of what most people
consider to be the greatest film of all time. I went into a maniacal rage
when, after sitting there for two hours, Orson Welles had the gall to reveal
the mysterious Rosebud as none other than a sled. A f@#$ing sled!

What exactly was stopping Charles Foster Kane (Orson Welles) from doing all
the damn sledding his heart desired? For God's sake, he could have bought
himself a mountain and slid down it until his ass was as slick as a
Teflon-coated frying pan. But no, we've got to sit through Kane and his ego
trips as a newspaper magnate only to discover that the poor guy regrets
missing his childhood. Oh boo hoo.

Since Orson was a young man when "Citizen Kane" was made, it takes some
pretty heavy makeup to make him look like Kane at twenty and then Kane at
eighty or whenever it is that he drops that stupid glass ball. Let's just
say the makeup job is less than convincing. Orson gets fatter, loses some
hair and ends up resembling Yul Brynner after he's had an allergic reaction
to being stung by the world's largest bee.

By the time Kane croaks in cinematic real-time, we've been subjected to a
lot of conceit and some really bad opera singing, courtesy of Kane's second
wife, who has a voice like a bad car starter. In the fiftieth anniversary
version that I watched, a subsequent documentary informed me that somebody
was once offered $800,000 to destroy the negative of "Citizen Kane" -- as if
this were a bad thing.

WJM

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Jul 13, 2002, 1:26:39 PM7/13/02
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Okay, last one:

Battlefield Earth


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"Battlefield Earth" is one of the worst films ever made. It's that simple.
It's "Plan 9 From Outer Space" made with 60 million dollars. Had Ed Wood
actually made it, people would expect an apology. When the cultural impact
of this fiasco finally sinks in, John Travolta will be lucky if he can get a
job plucking the gray hairs out of Ron Palillo's ass.
The only thing I can figure out is that the Church of Scientology decided
that they wanted to ensure nobody else joined up. This movie is like
watching the Pope accidentally catch on fire while giving Easter Mass. If
that's not a time to rethink your spiritual choices, what is?

Discussing the details of the plot is probably akin to discussing the
literary merits of a Nora Roberts novel. I just can't emphasize enough how
bad it all is. I mean, it's such a disaster it may resurrect Lawrence-Hilton
Jacobs' career. He'll be able to defend himself by saying "at least I didn't
make 'Battlefield Earth'," and executives will have to acknowledge that he
has a point. Anyway, it's the year 3000, a thousand years after a race
called the Psychlos has taken over the Earth. The head of security is Terl
(John Travolta) and he wants to use the humans as slaves for his personal
gain. Unfortunately, Jonnie Goodboy Tyler (Barry Pepper) has other plans and
leads a revolt.

In case you haven't seen any pictures, Psychlos are Jamaican Klingons who
talk like Ferengi. The primary special effect in the movie is accomplished
by filling buckets with dirt and pieces of concrete and then tossing them
across the screen. Director Roger Christian has a hard-on for flying dirt
like you would not believe. The guys who wrote this should be forced to
dictate everything for the rest of their lives so that they can never again
touch pen to paper or finger to keyboard and declare themselves writers. If
Christian can get a job as a Sears portrait photographer after this movie,
Congress should make the use of cameras punishable by death. Every single
scene is at an angle, which gave me the urge to slide off my chair and smash
my skull into the floor. Action scenes look like they were shot inside a
paint mixer.

If egos were farts, one imagines John Travolta could destroy an entire
planet himself by devouring a single frozen burrito. That this film even got
made is clearly one testament to that fact, and that they're already
planning a sequel is another.

Jim

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Jul 13, 2002, 8:32:46 PM7/13/02
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You may as well send people to the source of these reviews:

http://www.mrcranky.com

Not that he ever actually likes anything. But he has raised the negative
review to a high art.

Mark Spatny

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Jul 15, 2002, 6:02:39 PM7/15/02
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In article <ofZX8.2470$2W5....@eagle.america.net>, wjmul...@msn.com
says...

> Here's one:
>
> 2001: A Space Odyssey

I don't think this review of 2001 was funny. I think it was accurate.
I've always thought it was the most overrated, most boring movie I have
ever seen.

Kenneth Crudup

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Jul 19, 2002, 4:28:44 PM7/19/02
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In article <MPG.179ce6935...@news.earthlink.net>,
Mark Spatny <vfxpr...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> says:

>I don't think this review of 2001 was funny. I think it was accurate.
>I've always thought it was the most overrated, most boring movie I have
>ever seen.

<whew!>

I guess I can come out of the DVD closet on that one, too- was there a
book that should be read alongside as a background guide, perhaps?

-Kenny

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Dale Hicks

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Jul 19, 2002, 4:41:20 PM7/19/02
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In article <0E_Z8.773$U3....@typhoon.sonic.net>, ke...@panix.com says...

> In article <MPG.179ce6935...@news.earthlink.net>,
> Mark Spatny <vfxpr...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> says:
>
> >I don't think this review of 2001 was funny. I think it was accurate.
> >I've always thought it was the most overrated, most boring movie I have
> >ever seen.
>
> <whew!>
>
> I guess I can come out of the DVD closet on that one, too- was there a
> book that should be read alongside as a background guide, perhaps?

The book is much better, as it tells what is going on, rather than just
flashing pictures up on the screen with no explanation.

--
Cranial Crusader dgh...@bellsouth.net

JGM

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Jul 19, 2002, 5:14:39 PM7/19/02
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"Kenneth Crudup" <ke...@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In article <MPG.179ce6935...@news.earthlink.net>,
> Mark Spatny <vfxpr...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> says:

> >I don't think this review of 2001 was funny. I think it was accurate.
> >I've always thought it was the most overrated, most boring movie I have
> >ever seen.

> I guess I can come out of the DVD closet on that one, too- was there a


> book that should be read alongside as a background guide, perhaps?

The friendly native over on alt.movies.kubrick will be more than glad to
patiently explain any questions you might have about this film.

JGM


Kenneth Crudup

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Jul 19, 2002, 7:34:20 PM7/19/02
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[ Kubrick's "2001" ]

In article <ah9uo4$jl8$1...@ausnews.austin.ibm.com>,
"JGM" <JGMc...@yahoo.com> says:

>The friendly native over on alt.movies.kubrick will be more than glad to
>patiently explain any questions you might have about this film.

Heh. In 200-article-thread excruciating detail, I'll bet!

Mark Spatny

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Jul 21, 2002, 4:29:07 AM7/21/02
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JGMc...@yahoo.com says...

> The friendly native over on alt.movies.kubrick will be more than glad to
> patiently explain any questions you might have about this film.

I, for one, have no questions. I am certain, without a doubt, that it is
the most boring movie I have ever seen.

damnfine

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Jul 21, 2002, 4:49:09 AM7/21/02
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It's also the greatest movie ever made.

You should look at improving your attention span.


Melquiades

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Jul 21, 2002, 5:45:43 AM7/21/02
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"damnfine" <damn...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>"Mark Spatny" wrote:
>> > The friendly native over on alt.movies.kubrick will be more than glad
>to
>> > patiently explain any questions you might have about this film.
>>
>> I, for one, have no questions. I am certain, without a doubt, that it is
>> the most boring movie I have ever seen.
>
>It's also the greatest movie ever made.

According to whom??

damnfine

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Melquiades wrote:
> >> I, for one, have no questions. I am certain, without a doubt, that it is
> >> the most boring movie I have ever seen.
> >
> >It's also the greatest movie ever made.
>
> According to whom??

Reality.

The world is round, revolves around the sun. 2001 is the greatest of movies.
Etc.

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"You can't hurt me! Not with my... cheese helmet!"

Terry

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Jul 21, 2002, 11:13:07 AM7/21/02
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anyone who quotes tom green humor
should not be allowed a public opinion ;-)

damnfine

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Jul 21, 2002, 12:37:17 PM7/21/02
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Terry wrote:
> anyone who quotes tom green humor
> should not be allowed a public opinion ;-)

Anyone who knocks Tom Green should be subjected to electric-shock therapy. ;)

Douglas Bailey

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damnfine <damn...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> "Mark Spatny" wrote:

[_2001: A Space Odyssey_]


> > I, for one, have no questions. I am certain, without a doubt, that it is
> > the most boring movie I have ever seen.
>
> It's also the greatest movie ever made.
> You should look at improving your attention span.

For the record: I agree with "damnfine" that _2001_ is the greatest film
of all time, but I disagree that everyone else should think so. I love
it, but my opinion isn't affected in the least by its popularity (or
lack thereof) with others.

Most of my friends dislike _2001_ (or just fall asleep trying to watch
it). My parents saw it in the cinema back in 1968: they hated it so much
that they walked out partway through and asked for their money back.
None of this bothers me: differences of opinion are what make horse
races, and I've disliked plenty of films that others adore.

So I say, more power to you, Mark. :-)

doug

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this week dragged past me so slowly; the days fell on their knees...
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damnfine

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Jul 21, 2002, 1:17:40 PM7/21/02
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Douglas Bailey wrote:
> > > I, for one, have no questions. I am certain, without a doubt, that it is
> > > the most boring movie I have ever seen.
> >
> > It's also the greatest movie ever made.
> > You should look at improving your attention span.
>
> For the record: I agree with "damnfine" that _2001_ is the greatest film
> of all time, but I disagree that everyone else should think so.

I didn't say everyone else should think so, just that it is so.

That aside, I'm a staunch supporter of the right to be wrong!

The Diabolical Erroneous Monk

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In article <7cA_8.10078$_C2.7...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"Terry" <som...@earth.com> wrote:

There are people who get FREDDY GOT FINGERED, and there are people who
don't. I have no problem with people who don't like it, because like
films such as MAN BITES DOG and THE MEANING OF LIFE (a film FREDDY GOT
FINGERED owes a sizable debt to), it's not for everyone, and there's
nothing wrong with that.

For me, according to its own surreal internal logic (not entirely unlike
a Steven Chow film - where pretty much anything can happen at any time,
for no reason at all), it works. Gord might be a weirdo, but it's not
until he's provoked by someone else being an asshole to him (even though
he may have brought it on himself, it's always through a strange, dumb
innocence rather than malice) that he turns genuinely venomous.

To its credit the film never goes for the obvious cheap laughs with the
girl in the wheelchair, something most purveyors of shock humor would
have done immediately - instead, she's the films's strength, and the
inspiration for Gord to get his shit together. She's very smart, she's
not afraid of the overwhelming odds against her in life, and she has a
voracious, if unconventional, sexual appetite - it's never implied that
she'll just fall into bed with anybody, though. She knows what her
goals are, and she's admirably persistent in pursuing them, knowing very
well that nobody else is going to understand them and simply not caring.
When her handicap is directly mocked, by Gord's father, it's not
supposed to be funny, it's supposed to make the father seem like even
more of an asshole and an idiot than he already did.

It ain't CASABLANCA by any stretch of the imagination, but it ain't
HEARTBREAKERS either. FREDDY GOT FINGERED made me laugh and
HEARTBREAKERS didn't even make me smile. It just made me want to fling
feces at the screen like an enraged silverback - or Tom Green, for that
matter. Most criticism of FREDDY GOT FINGERED really had more to do
with a hatred for Tom Green than it did with the film itself - I read a
couple that didn't even mention the film. To say FREDDY GOT FINGERED is
the worst film of a year that saw such classics as AMERICAN PIE 2,
TOMCATS, PEARL HARBOR, TOMB RAIDER, HEARTBREAKERS, SAVING SILVERMAN,
DRIVEN, and BLACK KNIGHT shoved in the faces of the moviegoing public is
simply ridiculous.

--
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-Watch COWBOY BEBOP!-
Animated science fiction film noir romantic tragi-comedy at its finest.

damnfine

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Jul 21, 2002, 2:50:53 PM7/21/02
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The Diabolical Erroneous Monk wrote:
> There are people who get FREDDY GOT FINGERED, and there are people who
> don't.

Indeed!

I didn't actually like it at first but I've turned in a big way. I think it's
a work of some considerable genius, in fact. Tom Green has an honest and
humanist sensibility which I find nothing less than liberating to witness.
Hell, I don't think FGF is even particularly funny compared to the best of his
TV work, I actually appreciate it more as a remarkably earnest - dare I say -
drama.

'Freddy Got Fingered' is the movie Harmony Korine would've made by now if he
wasn't a talentless hack.

> Most criticism of FREDDY GOT FINGERED really had more to do

> with a hatred for Tom Green than it did with the film itself.

Yes, and most hatred for Tom Green is reactionary ignorance. And I should
know, I used to hate him myself. ;)

damnfine

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From: "damnfine" <damn...@ozemail.com.au>

Melquiades wrote:
> >> I, for one, have no questions. I am certain, without a doubt, that it is
> >> the most boring movie I have ever seen.
> >
> >It's also the greatest movie ever made.
>

> According to whom??

Reality.

The world is round, revolves around the sun. 2001 is the greatest of movies.
Etc.

--

damnfine

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Melquiades

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In article <ahei41$ser5e$1...@ID-138038.news.dfncis.de>, "damnfine" <damn...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>Melquiades wrote:
>> >> I, for one, have no questions. I am certain, without a doubt, that it is
>> >> the most boring movie I have ever seen.
>> >
>> >It's also the greatest movie ever made.
>>
>> According to whom??
>
>Reality.
>
>The world is round, revolves around the sun. 2001 is the greatest of movies.
>Etc.

I assume this is a joke, so I won't start one of those debates on the
subjectivity of opinion.

Here's mine: The movie is ok, but far from the best ever.

Jay Stewart

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The American Film Institute ranked 2001: A Space Odyssey at #22 among the
Top 100 Movies of all time.

I believe this list was compiled prior to the release of "Men in Black
II'...

Jay

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Mark Spatny

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damn...@ozemail.com.au says...

> It's also the greatest movie ever made.

In your opinion. Mine differs. I don't think it comes close to the likes
of Citizen Kane, The Godfather, Ben Hur, Das Boot, and Rashoman. You
like, it, that's fine. But that doesn't make it the greatest movie ever
made.

> You should look at improving your attention span.

My attention span is fine. I simply don't enjoy neanderthals dancing
around hooting at black rocks.

damnfine

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Melquiades wrote:
> >> >> I, for one, have no questions. I am certain, without a doubt, that it
is
> >> >> the most boring movie I have ever seen.
> >> >
> >> >It's also the greatest movie ever made.
> >>
> >> According to whom??
> >
> >Reality.
> >
> >The world is round, revolves around the sun. 2001 is the greatest of
movies.
> >Etc.
>
> I assume this is a joke

If you like. ;)

WJM

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"Mark Spatny" <vfxpr...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hmmm...one sentence dismissals of entire movies, eh? Okay, I'll play:

Boring B&W yarn about a man who misses his lost childhood so much that he
wastes much of his adult life trying to regain it.

Foolish tale of neanderthals making gravy for pasta while bickering among
themselves.

Stupid (dubbed!) story of seven non-English speaking asians.


Pupkin

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from http://www.dvdjournal.com/quickreviews/f/freddygotfingered.q.shtml
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Freddy Got Fingered

Look. Tom Green might not be for everybody. The guerrilla comedian made his
name on MTV humping dead animals, tormenting his parents with invasive
practical jokes, and interviewing passersby with a dildo-shaped microphone.
His avant garde tactics (such as an entire stand up monologue of strange
noises) have earned him comparison to the legendary Andy Kaufman. The big
difference, however, is that Green's style is not aloof - it is aggressive;
where Kaufman's style was introverted, Green's is unsettlingly personal and
in-your-face. The other big difference is that Kaufman, thanks to his early
demise, is remembered with affection as a comic genius. Tom Green is
loathed. His first film as leading man/writer/director is no exception.
Freddy Got Fingered was the worst reviewed film of 2001 and perhaps of the
preceding decade. It has been described with words like "cesspool,"
"abomination," "depressing," "repugnant," and (by Roger Ebert) "vomitorium."
And that is all wrong. In a time when most comedies consist of a thin layer
of predictable gross-out jokes draped over a dull formulaic plot skeleton,
Freddy Got Fingered is almost a revelation: it is entirely unpredictable,
and the comedy, whether you like it or not, is laid on thick, fast, and
audaciously. Not since the previously lambasted absurdist tour de force
Billy Madison (1995) has a comedian invested such immense effort into
invention, into surprise, into entertainment. Sure, there is room for
improvement. Technically, Freddy barely scratches by, showing Green's
directorial novice. Some of the pacing is off, some of the scenes are flat,
and Rip Torn, as Freddy's aggravated father, is sometimes too big. This is
not Citizen Kane. The plotting is loose - Green plays a cartoonist in his
late 20s living in his parents' basement - often no more than an excuse for
Green to riff into improvisation and non sequitur shock jokes. What's
depressing is that the critical press - who, bizarrely, adored the
comparatively half-assed There's Something About Mary - has not lauded the
generous Green for his bold advancement of that comic genre. While Mary was
gross, it was largely uncreative, settling for age-old, tired gags like
penis injury and ugly old woman jokes. There is nothing in Freddy Got
Fingered that is familiar. Freddy makes Mary look like an episode of The
Golden Girls. If this is not your preferred school of cinema, so be it, but
anyone with a taste for adventure, a strong stomach, and an appreciation for
crass surrealism, might be (un)pleasantly surprised to find that "the worst
comedy of the year" is actually the best. Also with Eddie Kaye Thomas, Julie
Hagerty and a cameo by Green's wife, Drew Barrymore. Fox has graciously
indulged Green's film and its few fans with a substantial DVD release. The
anamorphic transfer (1.85:1) is solid, and the 5.1 Dolby Digital mix is of a
good standard, with a 2.0 option as well. The film has three further audio
tracks, the first of which is a commentary by Green that fans will find
nearly as entertaining as the film. Green, naturally, intersperses mockery
of DVD commentaries with enthusiastic ramblings on a variety of subjects,
including a plot summary of Back to the Future, observations on the
characteristics of horse penises, and his bewilderment that anyone financed
this movie. The next audio track includes scene-specific commentary by cast
members Torn, Harland Williams and Marisa Coughlan. The third supplemental
audio track is a novel idea, and not a bad one: It allows the viewer to hear
the film accompanied by the atmosphere at the film's rowdy world premiere
screening. Also on this disc are eight deleted scenes (one of which is
called, appropriately, "Sucking the Cow") including commentary by Green
(which often devolves into a soundtrack of "irrelevant noises") and a
three-minute "PG-rated" version of the film. In addition, there are EPK and
MTV featurettes, several TV spots and trailers, and, hidden away to
accompany one of the deleted scenes with the commentary turned on, the
infamous TV clip of Green's literally nauseating visit to the Canadian Mike
Bullard Show with a dead raccoon. Keep-case.
-Gregory P. Dorr


damnfine

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Jul 22, 2002, 1:48:06 PM7/22/02
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<snip>

Good stuff. There's a guy who gets it.

Now, I'm no Adam Sandler fan... but this reviewer seems so together I'm almost
tempted to give 'Billy Madison' a look. ;)

The Diabolical Erroneous Monk

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Jul 22, 2002, 3:26:21 PM7/22/02
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In article <ujog0go...@corp.supernews.com>,
"Pupkin" <travis...@sultanofbrunei.com> wrote:

> from http://www.dvdjournal.com/quickreviews/f/freddygotfingered.q.shtml
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
(review from above link snipped)

That's what I'm talking about - though I don't know why even people who
liked it talk about it being technically sub-par. I love Kevin Smith's
movies, but it took him several films to even approach the visual level
of FREDDY GOT FINGERED, which I thought was a pretty damn good looking
movie. Now, Green probably had a bigger budget than Smith's films
pre-DOGMA, but I'm not talking about the technical polish that comes
with bigger budgets, I'm talking about where you put the camera and what
you do with it. To that end, Green hired an experienced
cinematographer, Mark Irwin, who's worked extensively with the Farreley
Bros. and David Cronenberg (which probably prepared him a bit for
working with another Canadian with a taste for gore), and who was also
the DP on ROAD TRIP. I'm sure Irwin contributed a lot to the look of
FGF, but the director probably had some say there, too.

Pupkin

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Jul 22, 2002, 4:48:38 PM7/22/02
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>
> That's what I'm talking about - though I don't know why even people who
> liked it talk about it being technically sub-par. I love Kevin Smith's


Not so much the visual look, but poor pacing of shots and awkward editing
both rear their heads, giving ammo to those who'd like to kneejerkingly
dismiss it as garbage (which it isn't; content trumps form, IMO; I'd rather
watch Freddy Got Fingered 5 billion times than sit through technically
accomplished blather).


Mark Spatny

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Jul 22, 2002, 5:06:52 PM7/22/02
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WJM,wjmul...@msn.com says...

> Hmmm...one sentence dismissals of entire movies, eh? Okay, I'll play:
>
> Boring B&W yarn about a man who misses his lost childhood so much that he
> wastes much of his adult life trying to regain it.
>
> Foolish tale of neanderthals making gravy for pasta while bickering among
> themselves.
>
> Stupid (dubbed!) story of seven non-English speaking asians.

See, the difference is, I don't dismiss you opinions with snide personal
attacks or complain about your attention span. Different people like
different things. If indeed you thought that Citizen Kane was boring, I
say fine, go see another movie. Big deal. One sentence dismissals (just
like one sentence accolades) are OK if I know that you and I aren't going
to see eye-to-eye. Why spend a long time explaining in detail what I
like/don't like when we know in advance you won't agree. A quick summary
of what I thought is enough to convey the overall feeling, and then we
can move on. I'd do the same if I liked a movie i.e. "Action-packed tale
of a tortured soul who comes back to get revenge for his murdered wife"
(The Crow). Why dwell on the beautiful photography and production design
if I think in advance you hate the movie. My opinion wouldn't change your
mind.

I actually chuckled when I read "tale of neanderthals making gravy for
pasta while bickering among themselves." That's pretty much what I think
of The Sopranos...so I can relate even if I don't feel that same about
The Godfather.

By the way, Roshomon has eight characters, not seven.

The Diabolical Erroneous Monk

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Jul 22, 2002, 6:20:02 PM7/22/02
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In article <ujorvkm...@corp.supernews.com>,
"Pupkin" <travis...@sultanofbrunei.com> wrote:

I'll agree there on the pacing and some of the editing - though the
"WHEN THE FUCK IS THIS MOVIE GOING TO END" sign still would have been
even funnier towards the end of the 2+ hour HEARTBREAKERS, a movie that
felt like it was actually 6 years long give or take a week. The
presence of that sign in FGF leads me to believe that Green originally
planned on making a much longer film to further screw with the audience
(which makes sense, with all the deleted scenes and also a lot of stuff
in the ads that only shows up in the outtakes), or at least is an
indication that he knew the pacing left something to be desired. Or
both.

Interestingly, I read in VIDEO STORE magazine that Regency Pictures had
signed a new 3-picture deal with Tom Green - apparently AFTER this movie
bombed.

http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0VPW/50_23/84600505/p1/article.jhtml

Pupkin

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Jul 22, 2002, 7:26:55 PM7/22/02
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> Interestingly, I read in VIDEO STORE magazine that Regency Pictures had
> signed a new 3-picture deal with Tom Green - apparently AFTER this movie
> bombed.
>
> http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0VPW/50_23/84600505/p1/article.jhtml
>


Good for them. I bet the film made back its money + on video and cable;
couldn't have been an expensive project anyway. I was just wondering last
night if his career was in the tank.


Melquiades

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Jul 22, 2002, 11:22:40 PM7/22/02
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I think he meant Seven Samurai.

damnfine

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Jul 22, 2002, 11:56:35 PM7/22/02
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The Diabolical Erroneous Monk wrote:
> That's what I'm talking about - though I don't know why even people who
> liked it talk about it being technically sub-par. I love Kevin Smith's
> movies, but it took him several films to even approach the visual level
> of FREDDY GOT FINGERED, which I thought was a pretty damn good
> looking movie.

I agree, actually... that bit of the review confused me too. Among other
things it has the best "vertigo" shot I've seen in years. ;)

damnfine

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Jul 22, 2002, 11:57:51 PM7/22/02
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Pupkin wrote:
> Good for them. I bet the film made back its money + on video and cable;
> couldn't have been an expensive project anyway. I was just wondering last
> night if his career was in the tank.

I heard at some point he was filming a TV special in Japan...

Joshua Zyber

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Jul 23, 2002, 7:52:02 AM7/23/02
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"damnfine" <damn...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> > Good for them. I bet the film made back its money + on video and
cable;
> > couldn't have been an expensive project anyway. I was just wondering
last
> > night if his career was in the tank.
>
> I heard at some point he was filming a TV special in Japan...

Yes, this aired several months back: "Tom Green's Subway Monkey Hour".

It wasn't terribly funny, unfortunately. He missed countless
opportunities to ridicule the local culture, and basically just did more
of his same old schtick.

The bit about Fork Man was kind of funny, though. He dressed up in a
giant fork costume and handed out "Fork You" T-shirts to promote the
values of proper Western eating utensils. This was in a hotel at 3AM, of
course.

- Josh


damnfine

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Jul 23, 2002, 10:13:08 AM7/23/02
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Joshua Zyber wrote:
> Yes, this aired several months back: "Tom Green's Subway Monkey Hour".
>
> It wasn't terribly funny, unfortunately. He missed countless
> opportunities to ridicule the local culture,

I wouldn't have expected him to ridicule the local culture so much as just
have to really outdo himself on the gross-o-meter considering how hard they
would be to shock over there... given the kind of shit they have going on on
regular gameshows.

> and basically just did more of his same old schtick.

I can deal with that!

Mark Spatny

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Jul 23, 2002, 7:42:49 PM7/23/02
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Melquiades,cla...@nospam.mindspring.com says...

> >By the way, Roshomon has eight characters, not seven.
>
> I think he meant Seven Samurai.

I do too, but I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Joshua Zyber

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Jul 23, 2002, 9:46:57 PM7/23/02
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"damnfine" <damn...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> > It wasn't terribly funny, unfortunately. He missed countless
> > opportunities to ridicule the local culture,
>
> I wouldn't have expected him to ridicule the local culture so much as
just
> have to really outdo himself on the gross-o-meter considering how hard
they
> would be to shock over there... given the kind of shit they have going
on on
> regular gameshows.

Well, that's the thing. He doesn't, and most of the people he
encounters, being used to crazier stuff on their local TV shows, are
hard to phase. That pretty much kills his act when people don't react to
him.

- Josh


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