Any reason to go for Bluray yet?
SNOTTYS
movies. I've watched a few 1080 movies at my brother's house and it does
show some details but it seems special effect of that era don't digitize
very well and ends up with a rather grainy movie. And to top it off, 2
movies I wanted the most are not out in 1080 at all: Tron (seems that glowy
effect is bad on Bluray conversion) and original Star Wars (supposedly
original are destroyed but I don't want the CGI-enhanced version from 1990)
So any reason to get Bluray player and a new TV or should I stick with my
old DVD player and send a letter to George Lucas why I'm not buying any
Buyray stuff yet.
Archimedes' Lever
wrote:
> Tron (seems that glowy
>effect is bad on Bluray conversion)
You're an idiot. No video frame cannot be digitized 100%
Archimedes' Lever
wrote:
> and original Star Wars (supposedly
>original are destroyed but I don't want the CGI-enhanced version from 1990)
Good for you.
Archimedes' Lever
wrote:
>
>So any reason to get Bluray player and a new TV or should I stick with my
>old DVD player and send a letter to George Lucas why I'm not buying any
>Buyray stuff yet.
Yeah, that's it, idiot. Stiffle your usage of modern technology based
on your Luddite mentality. That's real intelligent.
Aaron J. Bossig
> My favorite genere is sci-fi and I'm partial to the 70's and 80's era
> movies. I've watched a few 1080 movies at my brother's house and it does
> show some details but it seems special effect of that era don't digitize
> very well and ends up with a rather grainy movie. And to top it off, 2
> movies I wanted the most are not out in 1080 at all: Tron (seems that glowy
> effect is bad on Bluray conversion) and original Star Wars (supposedly
> original are destroyed but I don't want the CGI-enhanced version from 1990)
Some movies will be affected more than others when being shown in
1080p. It's a case-by-case thing. Film grain has always been a part
of filmmaking, some eras used it more than others. All that's
happening is that you're being taken closer to the original film than
DVD could take you.
I'm sorry if there are films you want on BluRay that aren't released
yet, but everyone is in the same boat there. Formats grow over time,
you can't get every single movie released in the space of ~3 years.
> So any reason to get Bluray player and a new TV or should I stick with my
> old DVD player and send a letter to George Lucas why I'm not buying any
> Buyray stuff yet.
Seeing as Lucas doesn't have any major stake in BluRay technology, I
don't see why he'd care. He'd be more than happy to release 7 or 8
more DVD sets and keep the cash rolling in from those. Personally, I
would strongly reccomend an HD set and BR player, but if you get warm-
and-fuzzy feelings from SD-DVD, who am I to judge?
--
Aaron J. Bossig
Doug Jacobs
> My favorite genere is sci-fi and I'm partial to the 70's and 80's era
> movies. I've watched a few 1080 movies at my brother's house and it does
> show some details but it seems special effect of that era don't digitize
> very well and ends up with a rather grainy movie. And to top it off, 2
> movies I wanted the most are not out in 1080 at all: Tron (seems that glowy
> effect is bad on Bluray conversion) and original Star Wars (supposedly
> original are destroyed but I don't want the CGI-enhanced version from 1990)
Well, as far as Star Wars goes, it's the enhanced versions or nothing.
The DVDs contain a remastered version from the enhanced versions, and a
direct copy from VHS. That mastered-from-VHS copy is about as close as
you're going to get, unfortunately.
As for blu-ray in general, it's just not taking off as fast as DVD did.
Sure, new releases will be DVD/Blu-Ray, but the rate at which older stuff
is getting re-released onto blu-ray is just pretty slow.
Even many blu-ray transfers just aren't that impressive. Like DVD, fully
automated remastering only gets you so far. But many films just aren't
going to be deemed worthy enough to get the more expensive treatment. As
a result, some blu-ray transfers don't look all that much better than what
you'd see from an upscaled DVD.
I thin this Christmas is really going to be blu-ray's do-or-die season.
If we don't see some huge spikes in sales later this year, blu-ray will
essentially have sealed its fate as Laser Disk 2.0. It won't be a
failure...but its appeal will definitely remain in the fringes of the
home video market.
--
It's not broken. It's...advanced.
Archimedes' Lever
wrote:
>Well, as far as Star Wars goes, it's the enhanced versions or nothing.
>The DVDs contain a remastered version from the enhanced versions, and a
>direct copy from VHS. That mastered-from-VHS copy is about as close as
>you're going to get, unfortunately.
The Laser Disc releases. D'oh!
They were original cut, pre-enhancement.
Way batter than VHS.
Richard C.
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: Well, as far as Star Wars goes, it's the enhanced versions or nothing.
: The DVDs contain a remastered version from the enhanced versions, and a
: direct copy from VHS. That mastered-from-VHS copy is about as close as
: you're going to get, unfortunately.
====================
Actually, I have the LD versions and they are fantastic.
Doug Jacobs
I meant on DVD, those "mastered-from-VHS" versions are as close to the
original version as you're going to get. They didn't use the LD versions.
Furthermore, the blu-ray player can't handle a LD anyways :-(
lugnut
wrote:
>Richard C. <post...@spamcop.net> wrote:
As far as I understood it, the "bonus disc" DVDs of the "unmolested
trilogy" *are* sourced from the transfer prepared for the laserdiscs.
They're certainly not a straight VHS copy.
-lugnut
GMAN
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September 1953, and utilized by systems such as Panavision and others,
anamorphic format camera lenses compress the image horizontally so that it
fits a standard frame, and anamorphic projection lenses restore the image and
spread it over the wide screen. The picture quality is at maximum because this
method both uses more of the negative frame than any other traditional 35 mm
film process, optically compresses twice the image width, and does not require
an intermediate conversion stage."