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neo...@webtv.net

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Dec 17, 2009, 8:22:49 AM12/17/09
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Can a sticker/label such as are put on video cassettes be put on one
side of a recordable DVD ? The volume of material I record makes putting
the information as to what's on the tape on a sleeve or in the format of
the recorded material impractical. Will the disc record and play with a
sticker on the side that is not encoded ? SD

(PeteCresswell)

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Dec 17, 2009, 9:18:27 AM12/17/09
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Per neo...@webtv.net:

I have done it with special label stock that is the size/shape of
the DVD. They came with a applicator jig to make centering
easier.

Dunno about anything else bco balance issues and maybe adhesive
issues.

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Java Jive

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Dec 17, 2009, 12:56:24 PM12/17/09
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Some printers, eg Canon PiXMA iP4000, allow you to print directly to
the top surface of the disk (-: only recommended for single-sided
disks :-) I use that quite a lot, but on some disks it tends to smear
after a while, and on others what's already printed on the disk by the
manufacturer often makes the track listing difficult to read.

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Dec 17, 2009, 1:27:30 PM12/17/09
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:22:49 -0500, neo...@webtv.net wrote:

Early on, in the burning of CDs and then DVDs, I decided to keep all
content detail on the PC. At first I used Excel to enter the data in
which I was interested, later I used HTML to create a "web page" more
easily accessed from any PC or network media player.

This means that each burned CD or DVD has a 4 character alphanumeric
ID written in its hub and on its slim jewel case. The discs are filed
in numerical order (I used the multicolored cases, which visually
group the discs in tens). The spread sheet, or now the web page,
lists the video, album, or track title, one or more artists of
interest, and the disc's ID. It also has links to IMDB and/or Rotten
Tomatoes for video and to other pertinent links for music (which may
include lyrics, track listings, etc.)

If a link is likely to disappear - as has been the case with some
lyrics - I copy the page(s) into the pertinent folder. Both Excel and
HTML pages make it quite easy to store and go to links.

In some cases, posters and covers had also been saved to the discs and
I made note of this in the catalogue.

When I decided to discard the 800+ burnt optical discs in favor of
hot-swappable hard drives, it was a simple matter of changing the
numbers in the catalogue to reflect which (of the now, thanks to HDTV,
16TB of HDD) contains the files. Each of these drives holds more than
200 times the volume stored on DVDs, so you can see how easily labels
or printed listings can become useless.

Principal advantages of this method:
a) browsing
b) searching
c) linking
d) sorting - in Excel
e) selected printing, if needed

S D

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Dec 17, 2009, 2:13:05 PM12/17/09
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problem is I frequently have six players in operation at the same time
, the discs will be a hodge podge unless I have the programing
information on a label before I put in the discs and can look at a
label to choose what disc to later put into what machine to record more
material ; does anyone know if I can just put a label across the
diameter of the unrecorded side of the disc ? I can try this out on one
of the recorded discs I have to see if it interferes with the play
function but I still would not know if this would answer the question
of interference with recording .SD

Mike S.

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Dec 17, 2009, 3:38:23 PM12/17/09
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In article <26442-4B2...@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>,

It probably will, but the assymmetrical distribution of weight from a
rectangular label affixed to the surface of the disc is likely to cause
significant vibration at rotational speeds used in reading and writing.

Even if you use a "form fitting" label that is exactly the shape of the
disc, the added weight is enough to cause difficulty for some drives. Not
to mention the possibility of adhesive chemically affecting the disc below
(admittedly though this is probably not a real issue with DVD's as they
are constructed differently from CD's).

Almost every problematic third-party disc I've run across (or had a friend
or family member ask me to help with) has had a label plastered on top. I
think that if one is burning stuff for archival purposes, the risk of
problems because of an affixed label is simply too high. Your mileage may
vary, but I have learned to play it safe.

S D

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Dec 17, 2009, 5:54:16 PM12/17/09
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thank you , I had not considered weight/asymmetry problems SD

Archimedes' Lever

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Dec 19, 2009, 2:44:07 PM12/19/09
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:22:49 -0500, neo...@webtv.net wrote:


Only the top side, not the side that faces down when you place it in
the drive, and ONLY a symmetrical label that does not make for an
imbalanced spin of the disc.

Archimedes' Lever

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Dec 19, 2009, 2:46:44 PM12/19/09
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:38:23 +0000 (UTC), rets...@xinap.moc (Mike S.)
wrote:

>Even if you use a "form fitting" label that is exactly the shape of the
>disc, the added weight is enough to cause difficulty for some drives.


Bullshit.

Archimedes' Lever

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Dec 19, 2009, 2:49:11 PM12/19/09
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:38:23 +0000 (UTC), rets...@xinap.moc (Mike S.)
wrote:

> Not


>to mention the possibility of adhesive chemically affecting the disc below
>(admittedly though this is probably not a real issue with DVD's as they
>are constructed differently from CD's).


Only if you try to remove the label can the adhesive pull off the thin,
vulnerable top side coating, and do damage to the underlying "bit foil"
layer where the data is on a bought CD. A recordable CD also has a
specific construction, but a label should only be applied once, so this
should never be a problem for anyone, short of a monkey.

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