DVD file formats - Video vs Data
B Wooster
I had a problem getting most of DVDs to work, and then found
software called "NTI" that worked - it has two different
DVD burning pages - one called "DVD-Video", and second called "DVD-Data".
Now I thought there was no difference in fileystems for DVD video
or data, all that mattered for DVD-Video is that there be a folder
called VIDEO_TS at the top, with the correct video files.
Is that not true?
If I burn a DVD-Video, the NTI software only allows me to add files to
a top VIDEO_TS folder, and burnt this way, my DVD plays everywhere.
If I burn a DVD-Data, the NTI software allows me to create any folders,
so I created the exact same structure - top level VIDEO_TS, and same files as
above.
This plays only on my computer, and does not play on most DVD players.
NTI software allows me to change filesystems - I tried both UDF, and
ISO 9660 (CDFS). Neither works.
So, anyone know for sure if there is some other magic to making
a DVD-Video, other than using a UDF filesystem and making the correct folders?
Papageno
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> On 15 Oct 2004 13:29:24 -0700, bwoos...@gmail.com (B Wooster) wrote:
>
> > I had a problem getting most of DVDs to work, and then found
> > software called "NTI" that worked - it has two different
> > DVD burning pages - one called "DVD-Video", and second called
"DVD-Data".
>
Which version of Nero? I have 6.3.1.25, and I can't find any DVD capability.
Only CD.
luminos
"Papageno" <lhorw...@paris.com> wrote in message
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Under compilation there is a drop down box now saying CD. Click the arrow
and click DVD. Then the DVD menu appears.
Sheppy
>>> > software called "NTI" that worked - it has two different
>>> > DVD burning pages - one called "DVD-Video", and second called
>> "DVD-Data".
>>>
>>> Nero also offers the choice between "DVD Video" and DVD Data" discs.
>>
>> Which version of Nero? I have 6.3.1.25, and I can't find any DVD
>> capability.
>> Only CD.
> Under compilation there is a drop down box now saying CD. Click the arrow
> and click DVD. Then the DVD menu appears.
The option to choose DVD or CD burning only appears if you have a supported
DVD burner installed in your PC.
Papageno
"Sheppy" <sp...@awshepherd.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > Under compilation there is a drop down box now saying CD. Click the
arrow
> > and click DVD. Then the DVD menu appears.
>
> The option to choose DVD or CD burning only appears if you have a
supported
> DVD burner installed in your PC.
Maybe that's why I never saw it before. I've had a CD burner for years, but
only just got a DVD burner on Thursday.
Anyway, I see the pulldown now. Thanks to both of you for the help.
PS: When making a data DVD, there's a choice: UDF, ISO, or UDF/ISO. What's
the difference?
Adrian Boliston
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I normally burn Data DVDs & Video DVDs with Burnatonce, and if I select
Mastering > Video DVD then the normal ISO settings that are selectable on a
Data DVD are "greyed out" so they cannot be altered and it forces you to use
UDF v1.02 (that box is ticked and greyed out), and the only checkbox that
can still be changed is the "Compliant PVD" box.
The checkboxes for *Data* DVD mastering are ISO level 2, ISO9660:1999,
Joliet Names, Long Joliet Names, Rock Ridge, Omit Version No., Relax
ISO9660, No Folder Limit, but these are all greyed out as presumably any of
these would be incompatible with a Video DVD.
I'm wondering what would happen if I were to try and write a Video DVD using
the "Master Data DVD" option, but then unchecking all the boxes apart from
"UDF v1.02". Presumably it would write an identical disk to using the
"Master Video DVD" option. I don't really want to waste a DVD to test this
out at the moment as they are still not cheap.
B Wooster
> "B Wooster" <bwoos...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> >I am getting lost in the maze of DVD file systems.
> > or data, all that mattered for DVD-Video is that there be a folder
> > called VIDEO_TS at the top, with the correct video files.
> > Is that not true?
> the "Master Data DVD" option, but then unchecking all the boxes apart from
> "UDF v1.02". Presumably it would write an identical disk to using the
> "Master Video DVD" option.
Nope, it wouldn't! I finally figured out the problem.
It is true that DVD-Video and DVD-Data both use same file system
(UDF - verison 1.02 is most compatible, but 1.5 is ok too).
BUT - here's the kicker - most DVD players will only play the DVD
if the order of the files in the VIDEO_TS is fixed - this page
explains it: http://dvd.chevelless230.com/
"It's important the the first file on the disk is
the VIDEO_TS.IFO file."
This makes a lot of sense! If you burn a DVD Data in UDF, most
computers will play it - they will find the file even it is not first
in the directory, but many DVD players - especially the "major" brands
like Sony, Panasonic, etc - will not play it... very moronic...
My supposedly low grade player - Daewoo - plays such DVDs just fine...
Anyway, I think that is the issue - the order of the files (and
maybe even the case - should be upper-case) in the VIDEO_TS folder matters.
When selecting DVD Data in a DVD burning application, this order
is lost - while the software will maintain the order if you select
"DVD Video" for burning.
On Linux, I did a "ls -f" to check the directory order, and the above
hypothesis seems to hold.