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Tony Calguire

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Nov 16, 2009, 12:49:43 PM11/16/09
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From the Northpine Upper Midwest Broadcasting Blog:

MINNESOTA/WISCONSIN:
KMSP/FOX 9 and WFTC/My 29 (Minneapolis) have made a change that could help
viewers having difficulty receiving KMSP since the station moved from
digital channel 26 to 9 in June. Each station had previously carried both
an HD feed and SD feed; the two stations now have swapped their SD feeds,
which now remap to the other channel number. So, WFTC continues to carry
its HD programming on 29.1, while a WFTC subchannel carries KMSP-SD, which
remaps to 9.2, and vice-versa for KMSP. Many receivers will update
automatically without the viewer's knowledge, but some older receivers may
need to be rescanned to receive 9.2 and 29.2. (11/12/2009)

http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/

Patty Winter

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:22:48 PM11/16/09
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In article <y9WdnWnIJKwqDZzW...@posted.visi>,

Tony Calguire <calg...@tcfreenet.invalid> wrote:
>From the Northpine Upper Midwest Broadcasting Blog:
>
>KMSP/FOX 9 and WFTC/My 29 (Minneapolis) have made a change that could help
>viewers having difficulty receiving KMSP since the station moved from
>digital channel 26 to 9 in June. Each station had previously carried both
>an HD feed and SD feed; the two stations now have swapped their SD feeds,
>which now remap to the other channel number.

That's clever.

KQED and KTEH (which are sister stations) do something similar:
each station's signal is carried on a digital subchannel of the
other station. KTEH doesn't have an HD feed, so their signals
from both the San Francisco and Fremont transmitters are SD;
KQED is available in HD from the SF xmtr and in SD from Fremont.


Patty

robinlos

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Nov 16, 2009, 6:02:05 PM11/16/09
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I like it.

K. B.

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Nov 17, 2009, 3:12:51 AM11/17/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:49:43 -0600, Tony Calguire
<calg...@tcfreenet.invalid> posted:

>So, WFTC continues to carry
>its HD programming on 29.1, while a WFTC subchannel carries KMSP-SD, which
>remaps to 9.2, and vice-versa for KMSP.

KMBC-DT 9 (temporarily on VHF 7) was required to have a
weaker signal to the west, so KMBC (4:3 SDTV) was also sent
on KCWE-DT 29.2 (labeled 9.3 since KMBC-DT was already using
9.1 and 9.2).

I never checked to see what actual RF channel was providing
9.3, I assumed a 3 program multicast from KMBC-DT.

During a storm, KCWE-DT went off the air but KMBC-DT stayed
on, that's how I found out that the program labeled 9.3
wasn't being transmitted by KMBC-DT.

(KMBC-DT is now on UHF 29, so KCWE-DT uses 29.2 for "THIS
TV")

Kirk Bayne
alt.video.digital-tv Home Page
<http://avdtv.tripod.com/avdtv.htm>

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