Aquiring a Source of Blood
Miz Cher E. Bathor`e
There are vampires and then there are "vampires". There are your very
intellectually sound individuals and sick arses who do get sadistic
kicks from asking stupid questions.
I fit into none of these. I refuse to be categorized. Well...
nevermind. I think I fall into the "Sadistically Sane" category. That
being said, I wonder how many of you aquire blood? Not blood from a cut
but smack dab FRESH.
I think asking the blood bank has gotten a bit wee suspicious after a
while and starting your own blood "cult" can get incrediably messy
(especially if people's teens are involved) and I'm not one to beg... I
prolly would rely on choice B, starting your own "cult" but naming it a
"club" with bizzare ritualistic... no. That sounds too scary. Uhm...
"exploration within the human cell from the focal point of one's own
senses".
~cher,
blood does a body good
SeekerSA
Getting fresh blood is not a problem for real vampires
the ways are many
1 get a willing donor,, they come out of the wood work,,just ask for one,
2, workers at blood banks and blod collection centers can often be paid to
sell you some. 3 people waiting to go into such astabalishments can be
preswaded to sell to you instead of them,
4 if you have a shop , a food astabalishment, a dance club, a market
almost anybusiness or are a land lord you can trade goods and services for
others blood,
and if you do not care if it is animal,,,,
there is the butcher,, deli, meat mart where it can be bought for pennys
or even given to you if you say you need it for a prop in a new film.
Catherene
The Madman who is Sane
SeekerSA wrote:
I just want to talk about the third choice. It would be cheaper to just move
to Canada and get the blood for free. Canada has a different system than the
U.S. I'm actually a registered blood donor (don't get any ideas) and no
Canadian blood donors are paid. Ever. That's a bit of a low-point for the
bums, but it brings down the national debt a bit.
On another note, what would happen if a vampire donated blood? Would the
donee become a vampire or what? And what would happen to the vampire?
Madman who is Sane
Hauschildt
SeekerSA <seek...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970924120...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
<snipped>
> and if you do not care if it is animal,,,,
> there is the butcher,, deli, meat mart where it can be bought for pennys
> or even given to you if you say you need it for a prop in a new film.
> Catherene
>
Buying the blood on markets?
I guess those who would like to drink blood, would like to get it FRESH.
And "alive"...
Marianne (Sniffer)
SeekerSA
Most would indeed prefer fresh "living" blood pumped from the heart at the
time of consumtion...for human blood, or animal blood. Many vampires I
know detest dead blood. However, I have found animal blood from the
butcher or the market almost as benificial in providing what's needed.
However, there are many real vampires who will argue that you can not get
the nutrition and properties from animal blood that you can from human.
I personally love animals, I am totally for animal rights. I am against
all forms of animal abuse and I think feeding off of a live animal, be it
cow, sheep, pig, dog, cat or even a rat is unthinkable. I would much
prefer the butcher or the market. And no, I am not a vampire, I am a
Nighttimer. If you wish to know what that is go to the address below and
click on the Nighttimer link.
Catherene
http://members.aol.com/SeekerSA/index.html
SeekerSA
If the vampire were a real vampire, ie. infected, the receiver of the
blood would also gain the infection. That's why vampires don't normally
give blood.
Catherene
B J Kuehl
SeekerSA wrote:
>> and if you do not care if it is animal,,,,
>> there is the butcher,, deli, meat mart where it can be bought for pennys
>> or even given to you if you say you need it for a prop in a new film.
And Sniffer replied:
> Buying the blood on markets?
> I guess those who would like to drink blood, would like to get it FRESH.
> And "alive"...
Blood (human and animal) begins to clot and dry out within
minutes of being removed from the body. The only way to
preserve the blood in drinkable form is to either water it
down until the blood is thin, runny and virtually tasteless
or add to it heparin, coumadin or some other chemical which
prevents clotting but alters the flavor and can actually
prove harmful when ingested. Neither of these options appeal
to real blooddrinkers.
Butchers and delis are not a good source of fresh blood
unless they do their own slaughtering on the premises.
Lady Emerald
(who prefers her blood light)
The Madman who is Sane
B J Kuehl wrote:
You know, vampire bats have a natural anticoagulant in their saliva to keep the
blood of their victims flowing while they drink. Perhaps if that chemical is
replicated somehow, vampires can use that to store their sustenance. It should
be rather tasteless, considering that vampire bats drink it all the time, so
there shouldn't be much of a problem (unless one has a moral objection to
drinking bat spit).
On another note, the other anticoagulants might possibly have some sort of
antitoxin somewhere that should alleviate some of the more dangerous
side-effects. Then again, there might not be any antitoxin or perhaps the cure
may be worse than the ailment. But that's just the opinion of a madman.
Then name says it all.
Madman who is Sane
The Madman who is Sane
The Madman who is Sane wrote:
> B J Kuehl wrote:
>
> > preserve the blood in drinkable form is to either water it
> > down until the blood is thin, runny and virtually tasteless
> > or add to it heparin, coumadin or some other chemical which
> > prevents clotting but alters the flavor and can actually
> > prove harmful when ingested. Neither of these options appeal
> > to real blooddrinkers.
> >
> > Butchers and delis are not a good source of fresh blood
> > unless they do their own slaughtering on the premises.
> >
> > Lady Emerald
> > (who prefers her blood light)
>
> You know, vampire bats have a natural anticoagulant in their saliva to keep the
> blood of their victims flowing while they drink. Perhaps if that chemical is
> replicated somehow, vampires can use that to store their sustenance. It should
> be rather tasteless, considering that vampire bats drink it all the time, so
> there shouldn't be much of a problem (unless one has a moral objection to
> drinking bat spit).
> On another note, the other anticoagulants might possibly have some sort of
> antitoxin somewhere that should alleviate some of the more dangerous
> side-effects. Then again, there might not be any antitoxin or perhaps the cure
> may be worse than the ailment. But that's just the opinion of a madman.
>
> Then name says it all.
> Madman who is Sane
I'd just like to make one addition to my reply: Blood clots because of a chemical
reaction with the atmosphere as well as when it cools far enough. Therefore, if
you keep the blood out of the atmosphere and keep it in a constant temperature,
then you can keep the blood liquid for a little bit longer.
This reminds me of a holy relic somewhere. Every year, the people in that area
go to the local cathedral to see a miracle occur. This relic is the blood of a
saint in a bottle (the saint is not in the bottle but the blood is). For most of
the year, the blood is completely clotted, but on one day, it becomes liquid again
for a short while. That's the reason that the people go there. That says
something about human faith. *still waiting for the vampiric revolution*
The name says it all.
Madman who is Sane
Cher E. Bathor`e
SeekerSA wrote:
>
> Getting fresh blood is not a problem for real vampires the ways are
Real vampires? *snide laugh* Okay... I don't believe in *REAL* vampires.
Qualifable "yes" vampires I can believe in; Hollywood vampires I can
believe in; Hungarian vampires I can believe in; "Jesus was a vampire" I
can believe in; saying you are a *REAL* vampire is streching the
bandwith a bit too far.
Plus, just getting blood doesn't make a vampire any more a vampire than
they are. Humans need food to live right? Well not just *every* person
can get a ready supply of food (i.e. those hunger relief programs). Does
that make them any less of a person than someone who can eat? No. I
don't think so... At least I'm not haughty enough to prance around
saying I'm "real" and distincting whose not "real". Pretentiousness I
say!
> many 1 get a willing donor,, they come out of the wood work,,just ask
> for one, 2, workers at blood banks and blod collection centers can
> often be paid to sell you some. 3 people waiting to go into such
> astabalishments can be preswaded to sell to you instead of them,
> 4 if you have a shop , a food astabalishment, a dance club, a market
> almost anybusiness or are a land lord you can trade goods and services
> for others blood, and if you do not care if it is animal,,,,
> there is the butcher,, deli, meat mart where it can be bought for
> pennys or even given to you if you say you need it for a prop in a new
> film.
Thanks for the suggestions. :) I actually try to avoid meat slaughter
houses... *shiver* Donated blood is just icky though... but
none-the-less a suggestion for general application.
~cher,
got problems ever since people get less respectable these days
SeekerSA
Agreed the blood is thinner and allso carries the bodys"Watter" as well,
but you get fresh blood from any fresh piece Liver or other organ meat,
it does work,, though I agree most prefer fresh thick, blood, actually I
find that not to my taste,
and if you do get fresh blood from a hospital or blood center it is frozen
and not clotted at all,
Catherene
B J Kuehl
The Madman who is Sane writes:
> I'd just like to make one addition to my reply: Blood clots because
> of a chemical reaction with the atmosphere as well as when it cools
> far enough. Therefore, if you keep the blood out of the atmosphere
> and keep it in a constant temperature, then you can keep the blood
> liquid for a little bit longer.
Which is how it works at blood collection centers. Blood is drained
from the donor into an airtight plastic bag which has already been
treated with the requisite amount of heparin to keep the fibringen
from clotting. The bloodbag holding the heparinzed blood is then
placed in cool storage (NOT frozen) until needed. Even so, stored
whole blood has a shelf life of two weeks or less.
Consequently, much of the donated blood is further processed into
blood products, such as packed cells and plasma, both of which have
much longer shelf lives. Neither of these blood products are
especially tasteful. Imbibing packed cells is like drinking coffee
after most of the water has been boiled away. Drinking plasma
is akin to drinking flat 7-UP or watered down Gatorade.
Bleech.
Lady Emerald
William R. Thompson
In <342C5553...@iname.com> The Madman who is Sane
<ze...@iname.com> writes:
>This reminds me of a holy relic somewhere. Every year, the people in
>that area go to the local cathedral to see a miracle occur. This
>relic is the blood of a saint in a bottle (the saint is not in the
>bottle but the blood is). For most of the year, the blood is
>completely clotted, but on one day, it becomes liquid again for a
>short while. That's the reason that the people go there. That says
>something about human faith.
Then there's the story that every parochial-school student hears by the
second grade (when I heard it). A very mean woman decided to prove
that the miracle of the Eucharist was a hoax, so she went to Mass,
received Communion and immediately walked out of the church. She spat
the Host onto the ground and stomped on it, and the wafer started
bleeding.
I'm from southern California, so I heard that this happened
somewhere back East. I once read an article by a woman who went to
parochial school in NYC; *she* heard that it happened in California. I
have to wonder what location they're given in Nebraska.
--Bill Thompson
B J Kuehl
The Madman who is Sane notes:
> ...vampire bats have a natural anticoagulant in their saliva to keep the
> blood of their victims flowing while they drink.
Can you tell us more about this anticoagulant?
> Perhaps if that chemical is
> replicated somehow, vampires can use that to store their sustenance.
> It should be rather tasteless, considering that vampire bats drink it
> all the time, so there shouldn't be much of a problem (unless one has
> a moral objection to drinking bat spit).
That's a possibility. Having to drink bat spit shouldn't be a
problem if the anticoagulant can be produced synthetically. The
only question would be whether or not it is toxic when drunk by
anything other than a vampire bat. Of the two anticoagulants I
know of, heparin is produced by the human liver and small amounts
probably won't cause nasty side-effects, but coumadin is the active
ingredient of warfarin (aka rat poison).
Lady Emerald
William R. Thompson
>Consequently, much of the donated blood is further processed into
>blood products, such as packed cells and plasma, both of which have
>much longer shelf lives. Neither of these blood products are
>especially tasteful. Imbibing packed cells is like drinking coffee
>after most of the water has been boiled away. Drinking plasma
>is akin to drinking flat 7-UP or watered down Gatorade.
Blood lite--could be just the thing for the vamp who's fighting the
battle of the bulge.
--Bill Thompson
(who lives in Utah, where it's nothing but $#%&! decaf . . . )
B J Kuehl
SeekerSA writes:
> and if you do get fresh blood from a hospital or blood center it is frozen
> and not clotted at all,
Hospitals and blood centers store fresh blood at very cool temperatures
but they do not freeze it. Freezing breaks down the cellular structure
of the blood.
Prior to using blood for a transfusion, the blood must be warmed to
body temperature. This is accomplished by removing the blood from
the cooler some hours ahead of time or by wrapping a warming device
(much like a heating pad) around the bag of blood.
All blood removed from a blood donor contains heparin. Because fresh
blood has a shelf 'life' of two weeks or less, much of the donated
blood is processed into packed cells and/or plasma.
Lady Emerald
.
Succubyss
>--Bill Thompson
>
>(who lives in Utah, where it's nothing but $#%&! decaf . . . )
>
>
decaf blood? Boy, those Mormon vamps are health concious...
S
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The Madman who is Sane
Succubyss wrote:
"Mormon vampires"? Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?
The Madman who is Sane
B J Kuehl wrote:
> The Madman who is Sane notes:
> > ...vampire bats have a natural anticoagulant in their saliva to keep the
> > blood of their victims flowing while they drink.
>
> Can you tell us more about this anticoagulant?
I don't know much about the anticoagulant itself, but I know that it exists.
I'd probably have to check some sort of zoological journal or something to
find out.
> > Perhaps if that chemical is
> > replicated somehow, vampires can use that to store their sustenance.
> > It should be rather tasteless, considering that vampire bats drink it
> > all the time, so there shouldn't be much of a problem (unless one has
> > a moral objection to drinking bat spit).
>
> That's a possibility. Having to drink bat spit shouldn't be a
> problem if the anticoagulant can be produced synthetically. The
> only question would be whether or not it is toxic when drunk by
> anything other than a vampire bat. Of the two anticoagulants I
> know of, heparin is produced by the human liver and small amounts
> probably won't cause nasty side-effects, but coumadin is the active
> ingredient of warfarin (aka rat poison).
>
> Lady Emerald
What you said about rat poison, there's another way to kill rats. It's pretty
gruesome if you think about it, though. You give the rats a mixture that is
50% flour and 50% cement mix. Later, you give them some water. Now, the
cement is wet and while the rat is busy digesting the flour, the cement dries
and the rat's intestines solidify. It would end up backed up and starved at
the same time and would either starve to death or would die of an E-Coli
infection when its digestive system explodes. Like I said: gruesome.
hunte...@hotmail.com
(snip)
> However, there ARE vampires even in such communities. It's a
> good place to hide.
>
> Lady Emerald
Next week:
Amish Vampyres.
Though if vampirism is passed on by vampires to humans, then it is
definately possible for one of any religion to be turned however if you
stay that religion is the question as I can think of moral conflicts
that could result from having to prey on humans.
Hunter Ravenschylde
P.S.
Lady Emerald do you have any fey ancestry? I know BJ did but it was my
understanding that was from her mortal heritage. Any news from her child
or about the hunter?
Succubyss
>Which caused the Madman who is Sane to reply:
>> "Mormon vampires"? Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?
Oxymoronic Mormon Vampyres?
"Newsgroup bred, Mother approved"
S (be patient, this too shall pass ;0
Succubyss
Lady Emerald informs us about anticoagulants:
> warfarin (aka rat poison).
Hey, I like they way that sounds. That will be my undercover initiation
name when I wish to go unnoticed. I mean, by anyone who hasn't read this
post, of course.
Then Madman who is Sane followed that with:
>there's another way to kill rats. It's pretty
>gruesome if you think about it, though. You give the rats a mixture that is
>50% flour and 50% cement mix. Later, you give them some water.
Gruesome is right! Funny how these tangents get started isn't it?
Lets hope this doesn't birth a new thread expanding the subject...
S (who refuses to speculate)
B J Kuehl
SeekerSA writes:
>Agreed the blood is thinner and allso carries the bodys"Watter" as well,
>but you get fresh blood from any fresh piece Liver or other organ meat,
>it does work,, though I agree most prefer fresh thick, blood, actually I
>find that not to my taste,
Everyone to his/her own taste, I guess, but I'd rather not wrench
blood from the liver of any animal, human or not. Consider the
functions performed by the liver.
1. The liver collects the worn out red blood cells and phagocytoses
them (breaks them down) so that they may be excreted into the
intestines for elimination. It is these broken down RBCs
which give feces the rich brown color.
2. The liver collects the toxic nitrogenous wastes left behind
when the body burns amino acids for energy. It is the job of
the liver to convert these wastes into urea, the principal
product of urine.
3. The liver receives (via the portal vein) and processes all
nutrients and substances recently ingested. It is the
liver's job to collect and detoxify any toxic substances
prior to converting the nutrients into glycogen or fat.
4. The liver stores glycogen plus certain minerals and vitamins,
such as vitamin A. The vitamin A concentration in the livers
of some animals (i.e., polar bears) is so high that they
are toxic if ingested.
5. The liver stores poisons (i.e., DDT) which cannot be broken
down and excreted from the body.
6. The liver manufactures bile, that nasty and bitter-tasting
substance which is stored in the gallbladder and used to
emulsify fatty acids.
If you don't mind your blood salted with bile, peppered with
insecticides and other toxins, diluted with urea, and augmented
with old, broken down RBCs, then blood from the liver might be
just the thing to satisfy your blood-drinking urges.
To me, draining the blood from the liver of a freshly-killed
animal sounds more like foraging in a garbage dumpster.
Lady Emerald
The Madman who is Sane
Succubyss wrote:
Sorry, I just couldn't help it. So, who else wants to expand the subject?
sbre...@ns.sympatico.ca
In article <60j8vd$h...@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com>,
wrth...@ix.netcom.com(William R. Thompson) wrote:
>
>
> Blood lite--could be just the thing for the vamp who's fighting the
> battle of the bulge.
>
>
> (who lives in Utah, where it's nothing but $#%&! decaf . . . )
Bill--perhaps you should consider relocating. There's nothing less
satisfying than $#%&! decaf. Except, perhaps, cold sheep's blood. Just
a suggestion.
Susannah
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B J Kuehl
Bill Thompson wrote:
>>> (who lives in Utah, where it's nothing but $#%&! decaf . . . )
And Sucubyss answered:
>> decaf blood? Boy, those Mormon vamps are health concious...
Which caused the Madman who is Sane to reply:
> "Mormon vampires"? Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?
Matt...
Vampirism knows no racial limitation, no social limitation,
no religious limitation, no dialectual limitation, no regional
limitation.
Heck, I lived for 9 years in a Mormon community in Idaho.
I remember when this sleazy salesman came through the community
selling this wondrous tea that would boost the output of any
who drank it. One of my Morman friends bought a 'ton' of it,
and then found out that the active ingredient in this miraculous
tea was the dreaded caffeine.
Succubyss
Madman who is Sane(aka Mat) suggests:
>How about storing all of these products like you said and then later
>mixing them together like Kool-aid (is that how you spell it?). It'll
>probably taste better than Kool-aid, though, considering that you put in
>exactly what you took out in the first place.
Sorta like vampire astronaut food? Just add water?
I can see it now...they will come in lil foil packets with a straw, like
the juice drink , Capri Sun. All the kiddie vamps will love 'em, but grown
up vamps won't be able to get the straw in without a mess.
S (who has gone from moody to sillly)
The Madman who is Sane
B J Kuehl wrote:
Oh... I guess I said the wrong thing, huh? Sorry. Eh-heh-heh.
*weakly grinning in an attempt to lighten the situation*
Francis J Yenca
Excerpts from netnews.alt.vampyres: 27-Sep-97 Re: Aquiring a Source of
Blood by sbre...@ns.sympatico.ca
> satisfying than $#%&! decaf. Except, perhaps, cold sheep's blood. Just
> a suggestion.
>
> Susannah
Gosh!
You sound like you say this from <shudder> experience!
Frank
The Madman who is Sane
B J Kuehl wrote:
> The Madman who is Sane writes:
> > I'd just like to make one addition to my reply: Blood clots because
> > of a chemical reaction with the atmosphere as well as when it cools
> > far enough. Therefore, if you keep the blood out of the atmosphere
> > and keep it in a constant temperature, then you can keep the blood
> > liquid for a little bit longer.
>
> Which is how it works at blood collection centers. Blood is drained
> from the donor into an airtight plastic bag which has already been
> treated with the requisite amount of heparin to keep the fibringen
> from clotting. The bloodbag holding the heparinzed blood is then
> placed in cool storage (NOT frozen) until needed. Even so, stored
> whole blood has a shelf life of two weeks or less.
>
> Consequently, much of the donated blood is further processed into
> blood products, such as packed cells and plasma, both of which have
> much longer shelf lives. Neither of these blood products are
> especially tasteful. Imbibing packed cells is like drinking coffee
> after most of the water has been boiled away. Drinking plasma
> is akin to drinking flat 7-UP or watered down Gatorade.
>
> Bleech.
>
> Lady Emerald
How about storing all of these products like you said and then later
mixing them together like Kool-aid (is that how you spell it?). It'll
probably taste better than Kool-aid, though, considering that you put in
exactly what you took out in the first place.
The name says it all.
Madman who is Sane
The Madman who is Sane
William R. Thompson wrote:
> In <342C5553...@iname.com> The Madman who is Sane
> <ze...@iname.com> writes:
>
> >This reminds me of a holy relic somewhere. Every year, the people in
> >that area go to the local cathedral to see a miracle occur. This
> >relic is the blood of a saint in a bottle (the saint is not in the
> >bottle but the blood is). For most of the year, the blood is
> >completely clotted, but on one day, it becomes liquid again for a
> >short while. That's the reason that the people go there. That says
> >something about human faith.
>
> Then there's the story that every parochial-school student hears by the
> second grade (when I heard it). A very mean woman decided to prove
> that the miracle of the Eucharist was a hoax, so she went to Mass,
> received Communion and immediately walked out of the church. She spat
> the Host onto the ground and stomped on it, and the wafer started
> bleeding.
<snipped>
> --Bill Thompson
Yeah, but was _that_ shown on television? It's different when you actually
see this happening, instead of hearing about it in the second grade.
Cher E. Bathor`e
The Madman who is Sane wrote:
> Succubyss wrote:
> > Lady Emerald informs us about anticoagulants:
> > > warfarin (aka rat poison).
> > Hey, I like they way that sounds. That will be my undercover
> > initiation name when I wish to go unnoticed. I mean, by anyone who
> > hasn't read this post, of course.
> >
> > Then Madman who is Sane followed that with:
> > >there's another way to kill rats. It's pretty
> > >gruesome if you think about it, though. You give the rats a mixture
> > >that is 50% flour and 50% cement mix. Later, you give them some
> > >water.
> >
> > Gruesome is right! Funny how these tangents get started isn't it?
> > Lets hope this doesn't birth a new thread expanding the subject...
> > S (who refuses to speculate)
> >
> subject?
*turning the post around* My mouse Adiemus would like to protest rat
poisoning. :P
~Cher, how many pets do vampires have?
William R. Thompson
In <19970927170...@ladder02.news.aol.com> succ...@aol.com
(Succubyss) writes:
>>--Bill Thompson
>>(who lives in Utah, where it's nothing but $#%&! decaf . . . )
>decaf blood? Boy, those Mormon vamps are health conscious...
Except I'm not Mormon. At least they don't put crosses on top of their
churches.
--Bill Thompson
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>>>--Bill Thompson
>
>>>(who lives in Utah, where it's nothing but $#%&! decaf . . . )
>
>>decaf blood? Boy, those Mormon vamps are health conscious...
>
>Except I'm not Mormon. At least they don't put crosses on top of their
>churches.
>
>--Bill Thompson
>
>
I meant that you were cursing the fact that there is only decaf in Utah,
so you being a vamp type, the Mormans would be having the decaf blood
making you a Mormon vamp having to prey on those aforementioned
decaffienated Mormons.....oh geez, never mind. S ( who often is heard
overexplaining) BTW...I love the lil spidey in your sig.
William R. Thompson
In <342D5E4B...@iname.com> The Madman who is Sane
<ze...@iname.com> writes:
><snipped--stories about holy relic turning to blood on TV, versus
>creepy nun story from grade school.
>Yeah, but was _that_ shown on television? It's different when you
>actually see this happening, instead of hearing about it in the second
>grade.
I saw one of the broadcasts of that "miracle," and it didn't impress
me--it didn't look bloodlike enough for my tastes. I kept trying to
think of ways to do it; after all, this relic came from a time in
history when manufacturing relics was a busy industry.
My guess? We didn't see *all* of the glass bottle; it was encased in
an ornate metal container. Suppose that the bottle was shaped like a
still, with a long curved neck leading to a second container hidden
inside the metal. Fill your first, exposed bottle with a mixture of
water-color and reddish-brown water-color paint. The water evaporates.
The vapor goes up the neck and condenses in the hidden container, which
being shaded is a bit cooler than the first. Eventually all of the
water ends up there, leaving a dry residue in the exposed container.
For your miracle, you just shake the relic back and forth, pouring the
water from one container to the other until you've mixed it with the
dried powder--and that "miracle" took a lot of shaking, as I recall.
The priest who works the "miracle" doesn't even have to know it's a
hoax; he's been duped by someone who died centuries ago.
Now, if you want *scary,* try being seven years old, and having an
authority figure and alleged adult tell you about blood flowing from
stomped-on bread, priests being torn to shreds as they exorcise demons
from naughty children, nasty Jews murdering pious Catholic children,
and other equally credible stuff. That authority figure carries more
impact when you're a child than a TV show does when you're an adult.
--Bill Thompson
William R. Thompson
In <19970928035...@ladder02.news.aol.com> succ...@aol.com
(Succubyss) writes:
>>>>--Bill Thompson
>>>>(who lives in Utah, where it's nothing but $#%&! decaf . . . )
>>>decaf blood? Boy, those Mormon vamps are health conscious...
>>Except I'm not Mormon. At least they don't put crosses on top of
>>their churches.
>>--Bill Thompson
>I meant that you were cursing the fact that there is only decaf in
>Utah, so you being a vamp type, the Mormans would be having the decaf
>blood making you a Mormon vamp having to prey on those aforementioned
>decaffienated Mormons.....oh geez, never mind. S ( who often is
>heard overexplaining) BTW...I love the lil spidey in your sig.
The scary thing is that I understood you.
--Bill Thompson
joey
> >>> (who lives in Utah, where it's nothing but $#%&! decaf . . . )
> >> decaf blood? Boy, those Mormon vamps are health concious...
> Which caused the Madman who is Sane to reply:
> > "Mormon vampires"? Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?
> Heck, I lived for 9 years in a Mormon community in Idaho.
> However, there ARE vampires even in such communities. It's a
> good place to hide.
>
> Lady Emerald
Oh, my gosh, a topic I know something about. I live in Pocatello, Id full
of those annoing people. Plus i am forced to go to church every sunday
with those hypocrites. I don't think Hiding is the word for living here.
They all torment me! They are all saying how "good" they are but they make
fun of the way I dress and my way of life. Thank goodness for my friends
who help me survive.
If only we put caffein in there water. That would make them suffer. "Oh
no we are going to hell now, :(" Untill then- I'll complain.
Toodles
Diana
Drat
My two darling rodents would like to protest as well. If you ever had
rats for pets you would see that they are intelligent creatures and make
very good pets. I'm sure this applies to mice, too, little Adiemus :-)
I've had cats, dogs, fish, and guinea pigs for pets and by far, my rats
are the best pets I've ever had!
In defence of domestic rodents everywhere,
Anasazi
sbre...@ns.sympatico.ca
ScatterbuG
The Madman who is Sane <ze...@iname.com> wrote:
>Sorry, I just couldn't help it. So, who else wants to expand the subject?
>
>The name says it all.
>Madman who is Sane
my favorite method of killing rats is telling them really depressing
stories until they kill themselves. it's kinda funny seeing a bunch of
rats slitting thier tiny wrists...
i know, i know...
where do they find the tiny razorblades?
ScatterbuG
-eye don't no-
The Madman who is Sane
Drat wrote:
> Cher E. Bathor`e wrote:
>
> > The Madman who is Sane wrote:
> > > Succubyss wrote:
> > > > Lady Emerald informs us about anticoagulants:
> > > > > warfarin (aka rat poison).
> > > > Hey, I like they way that sounds. That will be my undercover
> > > > initiation name when I wish to go unnoticed. I mean, by anyone
> > who
> > > > hasn't read this post, of course.
> > > >
> > > > Then Madman who is Sane followed that with:
> > > > >there's another way to kill rats. It's pretty
> > > > >gruesome if you think about it, though. You give the rats a
> > mixture
> > > > >that is 50% flour and 50% cement mix. Later, you give them some
> > > > >water.
> > > >
> > > > Gruesome is right! Funny how these tangents get started isn't it?
> >
> > > > Lets hope this doesn't birth a new thread expanding the subject...
> >
> > > > S (who refuses to speculate)
> > > >
> > > Sorry, I just couldn't help it. So, who else wants to expand the
> > > subject?
> >
> > *turning the post around* My mouse Adiemus would like to protest rat
> > poisoning. :P
> >
> > ~Cher, how many pets do vampires have?
>
> My two darling rodents would like to protest as well. If you ever had
> rats for pets you would see that they are intelligent creatures and make
> very good pets. I'm sure this applies to mice, too, little Adiemus :-)
> I've had cats, dogs, fish, and guinea pigs for pets and by far, my rats
> are the best pets I've ever had!
>
> In defence of domestic rodents everywhere,
>
> Anasazi
I'm not talking about _poisoning_ rats. I'm talking about making their
intestines explode by using cement mix and water in separate bowls. But I
take your point. It is rather disgusting and not very moral at all. It's
just that some people are not as happy around rats as others. My cousin
actually owns a rat of her own along with a snail colony and a pet turtle.
Oh, yeah and I forgot about the goats and chickens, but that doesn't count
because they're part of the farm.
But I digress. Some people have homes that are infested with rats that
come up through the toilet when one least suspects it and other things.
They get into the people's food and cost them a whole pile of money so that
they can't afford moving to another place or getting rid of the rats in a
more humane fashion. BUT I'M NOT BITTER!
ScatterbuG
>come up through the toilet when one least suspects it and other things.
ok, who here has read JTHM?
"I HAVE RATS IN MY ANUS!!!"
ScatterbuG
-immortality through reruns-
Mark Stubbs
>
> Blood (human and animal) begins to clot and dry out within
> minutes of being removed from the body. The only way to
> preserve the blood in drinkable form is to either water it
> down until the blood is thin, runny and virtually tasteless
> or add to it heparin, coumadin or some other chemical which
> prevents clotting but alters the flavor and can actually
> prove harmful when ingested. Neither of these options appeal
> to real blooddrinkers.
>
>
>
So how do they stop it from clotting when you donate blood then?
The Madman who is Sane
Drat wrote:
> > come up through the toilet when one least suspects it and other
> > things.
> > They get into the people's food and cost them a whole pile of money
> > so that
> > they can't afford moving to another place or getting rid of the rats
> > in a
> > more humane fashion. BUT I'M NOT BITTER!
> >
> > The name says it all.
> > Madman who is Sane
>
> I certainly wouldn't want MY intestines to explode!
>
> Believe me, I know how much some people hate rats. My own sister
> wouldn't visit for months after I adopted mine. Only recently has she
> admitted "They'd be really adorable if it wasn't for those icky tails."
>
> As for the uninvited variety, I'd opt for a humane method of removal. I
> say that now, but I'm sure if my home were infested, I'd just want to
> get rid of them as quickly as possible. I know that those devils are
> certainly not as friendly as my little creatures.
>
> Please don't be bitter! I didn't mean to imply that you're an animal
> hater or anything like that and I'm sorry if you have a rat problem. I
> was just defending my pets. :-)
>
> Anasazi
No, really. I'm not bitter.
ScatterbuG
jet...@i.hate.spam wrote:
>also sprach ScatterbuG:
>> >come up through the toilet when one least suspects it and other things.
>
>> ok, who here has read JTHM?
>
>mememememe!!!!!
>
>> "I HAVE RATS IN MY ANUS!!!"
>
>*laugh* have you seen the vampire one-part?
>
>- jetgirl
>
>
>
ooohh yes....
-ten thousand years later-
'god damned fuckng vampire...'
B J Kuehl
Mark Stubbs asks:
The blood bags are already treated with heparin. So are the
little vials (at least, the ones with the purple caps) into which
your blood is squirted after they take a sample from you.
Lady Emerald
Sanguinar1
>Subject: Re: Aquiring a Source of Blood
>From: seek...@aol.com (SeekerSA)
>Date: Thu, Sep 25, 1997 22:44 EDT
>Message-id: <19970926024...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
>
>If the vampire were a real vampire, ie. infected, the receiver of the
>blood would also gain the infection. That's why vampires don't normally
>give blood.
>Catherene
>
>
*Whispering: "Midas has donkey ears, Midas has donkey ears..."* I have
information that I do not have permissions to distribute...
That is a problem..
So is the cycle of the poor selling their blood in order to get that extra cash
when they are a vampire. It's a cycle that needs to be broken, and that's
PART of the reason my page exists, to try to help out in var. ways. Seeking
volunteers to help me--I alone cannot save the world. SERIOUS ONLY!!
--Sanguinarius
~~~~~>>Stop by for a cup of...er, um, coffee (yeah!)<<~~~~~
sangu...@aol.com
The Home Page of Sanguinarius --
http://members.aol.com/Sanguinar1/vampire_index.html
Francis J Yenca
Excerpts from netnews.alt.vampyres: 29-Sep-97 Re: Aquiring a Source of
Blood by sbre...@ns.sympatico.ca
> > > Bill--perhaps you should consider relocating. There's nothing less
> > > satisfying than $#%&! decaf. Except, perhaps, cold sheep's blood. Just
> > > a suggestion.
> > >
> > > Susannah
> >
> > Gosh!
> >
> > You sound like you say this from <shudder> experience!
> >
> > Frank
>
> Well, it *is* better warm :)
>
> S.
Hmmm.... I'd think that the freshness would have more to do with it than
the temperature...
Frank
sbre...@ns.sympatico.ca
In article <4oAXmTG00...@andrew.cmu.edu>,
That's exactly what I meant. When it's fresh, it's warm. Very warm.
@theCafe
Cher E. Bathor`e <ghost@{removethis}.aloha.net> wrote in article
<60l4fh$2...@nuhou.aloha.net>...
> ~Cher, how many pets do vampires have?
About 6 billion to date, and climbing
Sableagle, not included.
Cher E. Bathor`e
Holy bird droppings... :) How are ya? I'm sorry to all who are reading
this ('cuz it has nothing to do with vampires) but I wasn't sure how
sable recieves his email (hotmail anyone?).
And how's Britain and all them pretty people out there in the fall...
~cher, 6 billion pets... hopefully not including roaches
Geoff
D
> > >
> > > In defence of domestic rodents everywhere,
>
> Anasazi
much. Now I live in a house infested with cockroaches, which are more
visible, leave more evidence and fly. Give me rats anyday.
--
bandicoot
ScatterbuG
jet...@i.hate.spam wrote:
>this is the one time that i wish their weren't copyright laws - i'd love to post a
>scan of that comic! (but i'll be good.) you don't happen to remember which issue
>that was in, do you?
>
>- jetgirl
that was numbah se7en. the only one , unfortunatly, do not own.
ScatterbuG
'phew, his head smell like cabbage...'
Jules Pitt
BJ, why are you Lady Emerald now??
B J Kuehl <b...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in article <60tfgb$r...@uwm.edu>...
The Madman who is Sane
Drat wrote:
> Well, by domestic I meant the "invited" kind, the pet variety
> of rodent. The last thing I would ever want is a home infested
> with vermin of any kind. But I do agree with you. I've dealt
> with roaches and there can't be much worse.
>
> Anasazi
As you've mentioned, there are rats and cockroaches. There are also
silverfish (I've heard horribly disgusting stories about them), and
fleas (man, they bug me silly sometimes, pun not intended), clothes
moths (I have an innate fear of moths), ants (fire ants in particular),
and termites (I'm sure a lot of people know the problems the Hawaiians
are having). Frankly, I hate all kinds of insects, but those are the
worst, in my opinion.
Drat
Francis J Yenca
Excerpts from netnews.alt.vampyres: 1-Oct-97 Re: Aquiring a Source of
Blood by sbre...@ns.sympatico.ca
> > the temperature...
> >
> > Frank
>
> That's exactly what I meant. When it's fresh, it's warm. Very warm.
>
> S.
Is that as in "warm, tasty, and oh so very nourishing"?
Frank
The Madman who is Sane
The Madman who is Sane wrote:
> As you've mentioned, there are rats and cockroaches. There are also
> silverfish (I've heard horribly disgusting stories about them), and
> fleas (man, they bug me silly sometimes, pun not intended), clothes
> moths (I have an innate fear of moths), ants (fire ants in particular),
> and termites (I'm sure a lot of people know the problems the Hawaiians
> are having). Frankly, I hate all kinds of insects, but those are the
> worst, in my opinion.
>
> The name says it all.
> Madman who is Sane
I just wanted to make sure that ScatterbuG wouldn't be offended by the
above post in case there's a bad mood rising at the time (or is it a bad
_moon_ rising?). I should have put that in earlier, but, you know, the
rant.
Horvath
On Fri, 03 Oct 1997 20:44:29 -0700, The Madman who is Sane
<ze...@iname.com> scribbled:
>As you've mentioned, there are rats and cockroaches. There are also
>silverfish (I've heard horribly disgusting stories about them), and
>fleas (man, they bug me silly sometimes, pun not intended), clothes
>moths (I have an innate fear of moths), ants (fire ants in particular),
>and termites (I'm sure a lot of people know the problems the Hawaiians
>are having). Frankly, I hate all kinds of insects, but those are the
>worst, in my opinion.
That's why I like to keep spiders around.
Horvath
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Arrmand Adams
In article <34341F49...@taunet.net.au>, Geoff
<bandi...@taunet.net.au> writes
>D
>> > >
>> > > In defence of domestic rodents everywhere,
>>
>> Anasazi
>I used to live in a house infested with rats. They didn't bother me
>much. Now I live in a house infested with cockroaches, which are more
>visible, leave more evidence and fly. Give me rats anyday.
I keep a 8 ft African python and dont have a rat, or cockroache problem.
Mind you the Parrot keeps the flys a way. :)
--
Arrmand Adams
ScatterbuG
The Madman who is Sane wrote:
>Frankly, I hate all kinds of insects, but those are the
>worst, in my opinion.
>
>The name says it all.
>Madman who is Sane
>
now, c'mon, how could you say you hate _all_ insects? that's so mean!
a cute little insect,
ScatterbuG
ScatterbuG
The Madman who is Sane <ze...@iname.com> wrote:
>I just wanted to make sure that ScatterbuG wouldn't be offended by the
>above post in case there's a bad mood rising at the time (or is it a bad
>_moon_ rising?). I should have put that in earlier, but, you know, the
>rant.
>
>The name says it all.
>Madman who is Sane
>
oops! shoulda read the whole thread before responding!
ever so hard to offend,
ScatterbuG
C.E. Bathor`e
The Madman who is Sane wrote:
<<snipped on the on dotted line>>
> As you've mentioned, there are rats and cockroaches. There are also
> silverfish (I've heard horribly disgusting stories about them), and
> fleas (man, they bug me silly sometimes, pun not intended), clothes
> moths (I have an innate fear of moths), ants (fire ants in particular),
> and termites (I'm sure a lot of people know the problems the Hawaiians
> are having). Frankly, I hate all kinds of insects, but those are the
> worst, in my opinion.
IMHO, none are more terrifying than fleas and termites. Rats are scary
(but they're sooo cute!); roaches are easily killed by that roach trap;
silverfish get squished by the dictionary; moths splatted by the
swatter; ants get RAIDed; but I swear, when you are by yourself in a
house way out in boonie land, there is NOTHING that stops fleas and
termites. I've had an incident where I once turned on my bedside lamp
and found SCORES of termites squirming on my window screen! *EEWWW* Just
thinking of that day makes me shiver.
Fleas are just as bad. 2 hands are just not enough hands to squish those
little suckers from eating you alive. :/
~cher, who has survived the little evils of a sunny land
Laura M Parkinson
B J Kuehl (b...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) wrote:
: Must have been different strains. I also lived with black
: widows, had them in my kitchen cupboards, one over my basement
: stairway, and (like you) tons of them under the house. All I
: had to do was to jiggle their webs a tinsy bit, and they came
: tearing out to see what was going on.
Whereabouts exactly are black widows found, anyhow?
I mean geographically, not as in locations around the house.
Just curious if they are around these parts...
-Trickster
slee...@netidea.com
Rumor has it that, Drat <aratN...@littleblueplanet.on.ca> wrote:
~
~I certainly wouldn't want MY intestines to explode!
~
~Believe me, I know how much some people hate rats. My own sister
~wouldn't visit for months after I adopted mine. Only recently has she
~admitted "They'd be really adorable if it wasn't for those icky tails."
It's odd isn't it? People that wouldn't blink at a hamster hate rats on
principle. Never mind that rats are smarter, friendlier, and can be trained.
Hamsters do have more of that 'disneyesque' cuteness I suppose. They again,
people from Syria, or wherever it is that wild hamsters come from might hate
hamsters as much as we dislike wild rats and mice.
~
~As for the uninvited variety, I'd opt for a humane method of removal. I
~say that now, but I'm sure if my home were infested, I'd just want to
~get rid of them as quickly as possible. I know that those devils are
~certainly not as friendly as my little creatures.
Yes, I wouldn't want a wild rat infestation any more than I would want my home
over run by a pack of wild dogs. The qualities that make them good pets,
intelligence and human-tolarance, make them really nasty pests.
But poisoning is a lousy way to get rid of them. Not only is it an awful way to
go, but they can become resistant. Rats are supersensitve to toxins, so unless
they are starving they will try a tiny bit of a new food and wait to see if they
get sick before eating more. Traps don't work well either. If a rat sees
another rat caught in a trap, he will avoid that kind of trap. They learn fast.
Not to mention the fact that even if you manage to kill every last rat in your
home, if there are rats in your nieghborhood more will move in, eventually.
If you don't have any pets, you can get a thing that emits high-frequency noise,
very annoying to most animals. Of course, this may be a problem if you have
supersensitive vampyre hearing.
Or you can try a natural rat preditor; cats, terriers and weasels (ferrets?)
will usually hunt and kill rats. The advantage to this method is that your home
gets to smell like cats/terriers/weasels and new rats will avoid moving in.
~
~Please don't be bitter! I didn't mean to imply that you're an animal
~hater or anything like that and I'm sorry if you have a rat problem. I
~was just defending my pets. :-)
Hmmm... I wonder if anyone keeps pet misquitos?
Angela Christine
With Yod the cat,
Jig Lestrat and Chester O'Rogue - Rats,
and Penny the amazing urinating Chiuaua/terrier cross.
Succubyss
>Angela Christine
>With Yod the cat,
>Jig Lestrat and Chester O'Rogue - Rats,
>and Penny the amazing urinating Chiuaua/terrier cross.
New thread alert, new thread alert!!! A totally self-indulgent rash of posts
will now begin!!!
okay okay here we go....
what kinds of pets do you have and what are their names.
My turn, my turn:
Hondo, Germ. shep/Rottweiler, big baby with a big mouth
Niki, the Prozac princess, beautiful blue-eyed Husky
Jigger,big ass cat, formerly known as Barfly, who was found by running thru
the open door of a local tavern as a kitten, jumping up on a stool and meowing
for a drink.
AND Puff, the bearded dragon, baby lizard of the red-bearded dragon variety.
thank you for your indulgence!
S (who loves her pets, can you tell?)
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Reuben King
In article <618iks$3...@uwm.edu>, b...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu says...
> Trickster asks:
> > Whereabouts exactly are black widows found, anyhow?
> > I mean geographically, not as in locations around the house.
>
> I lived with black widows when I lived in Idaho, about 35 miles
> west of Boise, hot, dry, sagebrush desert.
>
> > Just curious if they are around these parts...
>
> drive from me... near the Wisconsin/Illinois border. I've
> never seen a black widow in our area.
>
> It's my understanding that spiders, in general, like warm DRY
> climates, places where bugs proliferate and where there is little
> rain to continually knock down their webs.
>
> So far as I know, the only poisonous spider which can be found
> in our area is the brown recluse.
>
>
> Lady Emerald
>
>
Yep, I had a lot of black widows in my house when I lived in
Tucson, Arizona.
Black Widows are pretty non-agressive and shy. To get bitten by one you
pretty much have to go pick a fight with em.
--
Reuben King, another Bitter Little Bastard(tm) (CASHP #18-97)
To respond via email: Remove "REMOVETHIS" from above email
or: "reuben[at]texas[dot]net" (Clealy sir, spam-bots suck.)
B J Kuehl
she's electric
>Fleas are just as bad. 2 hands are just not enough hands to squish those
>little suckers from eating you alive. :/
>
>~cher, who has survived the little evils of a sunny land
I've avoided the evil little *******s of a far from sunny land:
Scotland. They have this local species of midge (kinda 2mm mosquito
you CAN'T hear coming) that swarms April - July. People who failed
to protect themselves west of the magic dividing line in those months
have actually been taken to hospital suffering from threatening
blood-loss. Apparently the Isle of Skye is the worst; that's where
they got their reputation.
Sableagle, not at home.
Laura M Parkinson
actually, I live in maryland :)
I don't THINK that black widows are around here.. just
maybe the brown recluse, but I was curious :/ anyone know?
-Trickster the marylander (yay)
The Madman who is Sane
Laura M Parkinson wrote:
> B J Kuehl (b...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) wrote:
>
> : Must have been different strains. I also lived with black
> : widows, had them in my kitchen cupboards, one over my basement
> : stairway, and (like you) tons of them under the house. All I
> : had to do was to jiggle their webs a tinsy bit, and they came
> : tearing out to see what was going on.
>
> Whereabouts exactly are black widows found, anyhow?
> I mean geographically, not as in locations around the house.
> Just curious if they are around these parts...
> -Trickster
I think they're usually found around arid areas such as the Nevada
Desert. I hear the inhabitants of Vegas have a hell of a time with them
sometimes.
Lucadra
In article <EHLFL...@world.std.com>, Tric...@world.std.com (Laura M
Parkinson) writes:
>actually, I live in maryland :)
>I don't THINK that black widows are around here.. just
>maybe the brown recluse, but I was curious :/ anyone know?
>-Trickster the marylander (yay)
Here are the facts:
The black widow, Latrodectus mactans is found worldwide in the
warmer regions and in every state in the United States except Alaska and
Hawaii. It lives in a variety of natural and domestic habitats. It is quite
fond of dank, damp areas, and in the Southland in particular, it's haven
tends to be inside utility closets off the carport (The south's version of
a garage :-) The black widow produces a neurotoxic venom which, if
not treated, can cause death from respiratory paralysis.
The brown recluse, Loxosceles reclusa calls Kansas and Missouri
its home..but its habitat extends south to Texas and west to California.
It is fond of dark, dry, dusty areas such as belfries, attics, barns, etc. The
recluse produces a tissue-degenerating venom, which, if left untreated,
WILL result in gangrene and probable amputation, and may also lead to
liver or kidney failure.
Remember too, although the black widow and the brown recluse are
the only spiders known to be venomous to humans, ALL spiders carry
venom. Since they survive on a liquid diet, they use the venom to first kill
their prey, then they wait around while the venom literally melts all the
tissue
and organs. Once this is done, they simply bite the prey again and suck
out the content....sound familiar??:-)
\{^^^}/
Lucadra
http://www.geocities.com/~lucadra/
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Grebbsy McLaren
In article <dqwuALAj...@g-dav.demon.co.uk>
Ge...@g-dav.demon.co.uk "she's electric" writes:
>
> >And how's Britain
>
> I'm not sure it exists anymore. It used to be England, Scotland,
> Wales and the Channel Islands, and two or three of them have left
> now ...
> England's doing alright, thanks. A bit dry (and always too sunny).
>
No, we Scots are still part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern
Ireland. Just because we've got a parliament of our own for the first time in
hundreds of years, doesn't mean we're independent. After all, we've had our
own football team for as long as international football has existed.
Grebbsy
--
Grebbsy McLaren is gre...@ho-street.demon.co.uk now, cos she finally
figured how to get rid of the silly 'real' name she is saddled with...
"...all the great vessels of the neck had been severed... and a frightful
stream, bright red and glistening, was running over the surface of the rock."
Geoff
Arrmand Adams wrote:
>
>graciously snipped
>
> I keep a 8 ft African python
> --
> Arrmand Adams
you're lucky. Do you ever have to rescue the parrot from the python?
Maybe the python likes to nibble on your toes while you are asleep?
--
Geoff
ScatterbuG
b...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (B J Kuehl) wrote:
>Must have been different strains. I also lived with black
>widows, had them in my kitchen cupboards, one over my basement
>stairway, and (like you) tons of them under the house. All I
>had to do was to jiggle their webs a tinsy bit, and they came
>tearing out to see what was going on.
>
>
>Lady Emerald
mebbe they were just hungry? y'know, jiggle thier web, make her think
she's got a nice fly or som'ting.
ScatterbuG
who really likes spiders, from a distance.
Geoff
Succubyss wrote:
>
> >Angela Christine
> >With Yod the cat,
> >Jig Lestrat and Chester O'Rogue - Rats,
> >and Penny the amazing urinating Chiuaua/terrier cross.
>
> New thread alert, new thread alert!!! A totally self-indulgent rash of
> posts
> will now begin!!!
>hacked out with a blunt instrument(only so I can send a reply)
I've got Anna and Betty, both rats. Poor Betty has been growing a tumor
on her belly for about six months now and it is nearly as big as she
is.I have to force myself to make friends with the idea of a trip to the
vet (defintely within a couple of weeks). Anna, I'm afraid, is not very
nice natured for a rat. She loves to bite men on the testicles(draws
blood too). She steals money and whatever else she can carry that is
valuable or irreplacable. She is in perfect health though
--
Geoff
Succubyss
>Poor Betty has been growing a tumor
>on her belly for about six months now and it is nearly as big as she
>is.I have to force myself to make friends with the idea of a trip to the
>vet (defintely within a couple of weeks). Anna, I'm afraid, is not very
>nice natured for a rat. She loves to bite men on the testicles(draws
>blood too). She steals money and whatever else she can carry that is
>valuable or irreplacable. She is in perfect health though
>--
> Geoff
I am sorry to hear of the belly-tumored rat, altho that sounds like a good
title for a short story. Betty immortalized in print perhaps?
Anna sounds like my kinda woman tho!
S
VideoVamp
Having a ferret run loose in the house seems to keep all sort of rodent
away. I dont think they like the smell of the ferret....
The Madman who is Sane
f_bug wrote:
> The Madman who is Sane <ze...@iname.com> wrote in article
> <3437F728...@iname.com>...
>
> | Spiders are not insects. They are arachnids...snip.. because they're not
> insects. Otherwise, how are they
> | as arachnids?
> |
> | The name says it all.
> | Madman who is Sane
> |
> |
> Ye Gads!!! Remind me not to talk about spiders on the
> vamp channel *whew*. OK , i give... the arachnid is
> agressive toward bugs and maybe other spiders like
> Lucandra suggested ,but not to humans, so much so
> as people would have you believe. I suppose if you
> tried to hold one it would bite you, but then i've
> never tried and don't
> think i ever will.
>
> Damn, i have an arach in my nids , gotta go.
>
> F bug who was sane before reading this.
Some species of spider (i.e. some kinds of tarantula) will let themselves be
held by human hands without aggressing. In fact, there are some traveling
groups that help people lose their fear of spiders by letting them hold said
tarantulas (or is it tarantulae?).
The Madman who is Sane
Geoff wrote:
> Succubyss wrote:
> >
> > >Angela Christine
> > >With Yod the cat,
> > >Jig Lestrat and Chester O'Rogue - Rats,
> > >and Penny the amazing urinating Chiuaua/terrier cross.
> >
> > New thread alert, new thread alert!!! A totally self-indulgent rash of
> > posts
> > will now begin!!!
>
> >hacked out with a blunt instrument(only so I can send a reply)
>
> I've got Anna and Betty, both rats. Poor Betty has been growing a tumor
> on her belly for about six months now and it is nearly as big as she
> is.I have to force myself to make friends with the idea of a trip to the
> vet (defintely within a couple of weeks). Anna, I'm afraid, is not very
> nice natured for a rat. She loves to bite men on the testicles(draws
> blood too). She steals money and whatever else she can carry that is
> valuable or irreplacable. She is in perfect health though
> --
> Geoff
This will probably end up being some sort of twisted health/diet program,
but maybe Anna got good health from biting those guys' testicles. *suddenly
cringing at what I just said*
Lucadra
In article <6191jc$a...@uwm.edu>, b...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (B J Kuehl) writes:
+I have had the pleasure of actually seeing the result of the bite of
+a brown recluse spider. It caused the tissues in the leg of the bitee
+to turn black (gangrenous) and slough off+
Well Lady Emerald, If that's what it takes to bring you pleasure, I shudder
to think what it would require to make you ecstatic! :-)
+I also knew someone who was bitten by a black widow when she (the
+person I knew) was young. She survived but remembers it as a most
+painful experience.+
I too have had the unfortunate opportunity of making this particular arachnid's
acquaintance, and to this day (30 years after the fact) I will not go near
a sleeping bag!
f_bug
The Madman who is Sane <ze...@iname.com> wrote in article
|
| Some species of spider (i.e. some kinds of tarantula) will let themselves
be
| held by human hands without aggressing. In fact, there are some
traveling
| groups that help people lose their fear of spiders by letting them hold
said
| tarantulas (or is it tarantulae?).
|
| The name says it all.
| Madman who is Sane
Well, see ifin you can tame one (black widow) down like
a pet, and let us know if you get bit or anything.
BTW, i like your name :)
F bug The Brave
The Madman who is Sane
f_bug wrote:
Like I'm that crazy! I'm going through a sanity streak right now. But if I
decide to tame the black widow, I'd rather be turned first so as to not be
affected by any unfortunate mishaps (THIS WAS NOT AN INVITATION).
The name says it all.
Madman who is Sane
P.S. I've actually been debating whether I should decide to be turned or not,
but I always get stuck when I ask myself the question, "Am I really willing to
give up the sun?" That's the main stumper for me, but I'd probably find plenty
more drawbacks if I did decide to be turned. Does anyone have any suggestions
as to what I should do?
William R. Thompson
In <343C4EAA...@iname.com> The Madman who is Sane
<ze...@iname.com> writes:
>I've actually been debating whether I should decide to be turned or
>not, but I always get stuck when I ask myself the question, "Am I
>really willing to give up the sun?" That's the main stumper for me,
>but I'd probably find plenty more drawbacks if I did decide to be
>turned. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should do?
With the way you phrase the question, the answer is obviously "NO!!!"
--Bill Thompson
f_bug
The Madman who is Sane <ze...@iname.com> wrote in article
<343C4EAA...@iname.com>...
|
|
| f_bug wrote:
| >
| > Well, see ifin you can tame one (black widow) down like
| > a pet, and let us know if you get bit or anything.
| Like I'm that crazy! I'm going through a sanity streak right now.
Aw shukins....
But if I
| decide to tame the black widow, I'd rather be turned first so as to not
be
| affected by any unfortunate mishaps (THIS WAS NOT AN INVITATION).
Hmmm, so your straight and you want to be turned...
interesting, i'm sure there's a newsgroup for that somewhere.
Then there's always the M&M couple, but i haven't seen them
recently *sigh*.
| The name says it all.
| Madman who is Sane
Heard it before. (*psssst* they all say that)
| P.S. I've actually been debating whether I should decide to be turned or
not,
| but I always get stuck when I ask myself the question, "Am I really
willing to
| give up the sun?" That's the main stumper for me, but I'd probably find
plenty
| more drawbacks if I did decide to be turned. Does anyone have any
suggestions
| as to what I should do?
Hmmm, i really don't think you would nec. need to give up
the sun, since i've been bitten twice in the day, when i
sleep..... and i'm usually such a light sleeper *shrug*.
Be forewarned, however, and i am very serious; you are
very close to being put on "T-H-E-L-I-S-T" *sinister
music in the background*.
F bug the
Whatthefuckeveryoufigureoutimeandoilooklikeigiveashit. ;)
f_bug
Well, i had an interesting experience with a
black widow last night.... i walked through the
door, turned around to close it, and there was the
biggest black widow i have ever seen(if it was a black
widow). It was solid black with the body of a b.w.,
but had a red dot on its underside... anyway i thought
it was dead cuz it wasn't movin', so i brushed with
the broom and it roled over and played dead (go
figure). I swept it aside so i could close the door,
and then it started movin' around. *end of cute story*
F bug
Sanguinar1
>If you don't mind your blood salted with bile, peppered with
>insecticides and other toxins, diluted with urea, and augmented
>with old, broken down RBCs, then blood from the liver might be
>just the thing to satisfy your blood-drinking urges.
>
>To me, draining the blood from the liver of a freshly-killed
>animal sounds more like foraging in a garbage dumpster.
>
>
>Lady Emerald
>
This is true...excuse me while I go barf........(maybe I'll barf up a
hairball!)
Sorry.
--Sanguinarius
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Sanguinar1
>Imbibing packed cells is like drinking coffee
>after most of the water has been boiled away.
HEY! I like drinking strong coffee!!!
Sanguinar1
>I used to live in a house infested with rats. They didn't bother me
>much. Now I live in a house infested with cockroaches, which are more
>visible, leave more evidence and fly. Give me rats anyday.
>--
> bandicoot
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
amen 2 dat!
Sanguinar1
>Actually we used to have a whole shit load of black
>widows living under our trailor house. I crawled
>within a qouple (2) feet of them, back, and forth,
>getting our stuff, and they never made a move for
>me. They are not a very aggresive insect... They
>don't need to be.
>
>F bug
>
*shudder*
Sanguinar1
>You know, vampire bats have a natural anticoagulant in their saliva to keep
>the
>> blood of their victims flowing while they drink. Perhaps if that chemical
>is
>> replicated somehow, vampires can use that to store their sustenance. It
>should
>> be rather tasteless, considering that vampire bats drink it all the time,
>so
>> there shouldn't be much of a problem (unless one has a moral objection to
>> drinking bat spit).
I was just going to say, yeah but who wants to be drinking BAT SPIT?! My cat's
named Bat, may he'd spit up a hairbal, and we could all drink that...
Sanguinar1
>What you said about rat poison, there's another way to kill rats. It's
>pretty
>gruesome if you think about it, though. You give the rats a mixture that is
>50% flour and 50% cement mix. Later, you give them some water. Now, the
>cement is wet and while the rat is busy digesting the flour, the cement dries
>and the rat's intestines solidify. It would end up backed up and starved at
>the same time and would either starve to death or would die of an E-Coli
>infection when its digestive system explodes. Like I said: gruesome.
>
>The name says it all.
>Madman who is Sane
>
Is this true, seriously? If so, that's the sickest twistedest thing I've heard
in I don't know how long. Why would anyone do that? Why would anyone kill
something that way? They should be shot! No, they should have that done to
them, for coming up with it in the first place! There's got to be more humane
ways to get rid of or kill rats!
Sanguinar1
Why would any self-respecting mormon settle for becoming a vampire, when they
could become a GOD, instead? (except for maybe the women,I figure, because
being doomed to walk the earth forver has got to be better than eternal
celestial pregnancy!) But the males? No, never.
Sanguinar1
>Some species of spider (i.e. some kinds of tarantula) will let themselves be
>held by human hands without aggressing. In fact, there are some traveling
>groups that help people lose their fear of spiders by letting them hold said
>tarantulas (or is it tarantulae?).
>
>Madman who is Sane
>
>
Sanguinar1
>Some people have homes that are infested with rats that
>come up through the toilet when one least suspects it...
*He-he_heeeee!* I'm visualizing this...I should be a skit filmer or something,
I could work it into one...
Sanguinar1
i SHOULDN'T BE READING THIS THREAD...
Sanguinar1
>Then there's the story that every parochial-school student hears by the
>second grade (when I heard it). A very mean woman decided to prove
>that the miracle of the Eucharist was a hoax, so she went to Mass,
>received Communion and immediately walked out of the church. She spat
>the Host onto the ground and stomped on it, and the wafer started
>bleeding.
>
> I'm from southern California, so I heard that this happened
>somewhere back East. I once read an article by a woman who went to
>parochial school in NYC; *she* heard that it happened in California. I
>have to wonder what location they're given in Nebraska.
>
>--Bill Thompson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Urban legends....My aunt's third cousin''s ex-husbands
mistress was rther when it happened, and it happened in Schnectededeitytyt
(did I spell that right?), NY...
Did you hear the one about someone's cat came in from the rain and it was all
wet, so they popped it into the microwave ( or the dryer, alternatly...) to
dry it off? (Seriously, though, the dryer bit, I did talk to someone I used
to know who said that one of her cats did climb in the dryer when she was
doing laundry because it was warm, and they shurt it in there without knowing
it and started it up. When they went to fetch their clothes out of the dryer,
it was a godawful, horrible, bloody mess of blood and fur and stuff. I hope
to god the poor thing died quickly. I would hate for that to happen.--To my
cats OR to me, for that matter!!!)
I'm done babbling--this post, anyways...
Sanguinar1
>Lady Emerald informs us about anticoagulants:
>> warfarin (aka rat poison).
>Hey, I like they way that sounds. That will be my undercover initiation
>name when I wish to go unnoticed. I mean, by anyone who hasn't read this
>post, of course.
>
*Sanguinarius singing in a loud, high and very, very anoying voice* I'm gonna
te-elll, I'm gonna te--ell...! *insane giggling*
Sanguinar1
>As you've mentioned, there are rats and cockroaches. There are also
>silverfish (I've heard horribly disgusting stories about them), and
>fleas (man, they bug me silly sometimes, pun not intended), clothes
>moths (I have an innate fear of moths), ants (fire ants in particular),
>and termites (I'm sure a lot of people know the problems the Hawaiians
>are having). Frankly, I hate all kinds of insects, but those are the
>worst, in my opinion.
>
>The name says it all.
>Madman who is Sane
>
And skeeter..Gawd, that high-pitched, annoying hum will send me to going
spasticslly berzerk! (Besides, they're competition *pout*)
Sanguinar1
>That's exactly what I meant. When it's fresh, it's warm. Very warm.
>
>S.
*drool*