AMERICAS WALK FOR DIABETES-BIG MIKEY WANTS YOU!
Mike
I AM ASKING MY FELLOW FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS AND MEMBERS OF AVLV TO EITHER JOIN
WITH ME AND WALK IN THE 2ND ANNUAL AMERICA'S WALK FOR DIABETES IN LAS VEGAS
ON SEPTEMBER 20, 2003.
THIS YEARS' EVENT WILL BEGIN AT 8 AM AT WET N WILD WATER PARK. YOU MAY
PARTICIPATE IN EITHER A 1,2, OR 3 MILE WALK ON LAS VEGAS BLVD. IF YOU
CANNOT WALK, PLEASE SPONSOR ME WITH A CHECK MADE PAYABLE TO THE AMERICAN
DIABETES ASSOCIATION . THERE ARE ALSO WALKS IN ALMOST EVERY STATE THIS YEAR
EITHER IN SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER. THERE ARE WATER AND SNACKS PROVIDED ALONG
THE ROUTE AND A LUNCH WILL BE PROVIDED AFTER THE EVENT. I HAVE BEEN
PARTICIAPTING IN THE EVENT FOR SEVERAL YEARS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ON
BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AND THIS WILL BE MY FIRST TIME WALKING IN LAS VEGAS.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO PUT TOGETHER A 'TEAM AVLV' TO WALK WITH ME THIS YEAR,
SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, PLEASE CONTACT ME AT mike...@hotmail.com
IF YOU CARE TO DONATE AS A SPONSOR FOR ME, YOU CAN SEND THE CHECKS TO MY
LOCKBOX AT:
AMERICA'S WALK FOR DIABETES-LAS VEGAS
(BIG MIKEY)
PO BOX 7558
VAN NUYS, CA 91409-7558
MAKE YOUR CHECK PAYABLE TO:
AMERICAN DIABETES ASSOCIATION (not to me, ok?)
($25 IS SUGGESTED BUT ANY AMOUNT WILL BE WELCOMED!)
THANKS EVERYONE!
MIKE
http://main.diabetes.org/site/TR?pg=entry&fr_id=1298
Gpinlv
>From: "Mike" mike...@hotmail.com
Your caps lock key is broken, cretin.
Mike
Mike
"Gpinlv" <gpi...@cs.com> wrote in message
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billb
While sitting, make clockwise circles with your right foot.
THEN. . .
While doing the circles, draw the number "6" in the
air with your right hand.
Your foot will change direction!
--
billb
Dick Goldhaber
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
video...@comcast.net
"billb" <gl...@spackle.org> wrote in message
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Mike
I am looking forward to the walk.
Mike
"Dick Goldhaber" <video...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Mike
come walk with me before you got to work. You will be helping towards a lot
of good research. I just saw the latest AP story about diabetes now being
considered a worldwide epidemic. We must stop this disease as it will kill
more people than breast cancer and aids combined.
Thanks.
Mike
Mike
I really need some support from all of you. Please send me a check for the
Americas Walk for Diabetes being held in Las Vegas on Saturday, September
20th.
Thanks!
Mike
Eric Simandl
If more folks has taken up walking before they put on all the lard, they
wouldn't have become diabetic in the first place.
No sympathy for gluttons here.
--
"A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous. Got
me?"
---Captain Beefheart
Steve G
"Eric Simandl" <sim...@sprintmail.com> wrote in message
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> Too late.
>
> If more folks has taken up walking before they put on all the lard, they
> wouldn't have become diabetic in the first place.
>
> No sympathy for gluttons here.
Diabetes is genetic. You can look it up. Yes, I AM refering to type 2 as
well as type 1.
Mike
I don't think even Chuck would go that low.
You have a lot to learn about Diabetes--and humanity.
Mike
"Eric Simandl" <sim...@sprintmail.com> wrote in message
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Mike
Instead of flaming me, what not show some REAL class and send me a check for
Diabetes!
Show me the money....
Mike
"Chuck.K" <No....@nohow.com> wrote in message
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> In article <20030825195133...@mb-m12.news.cs.com>,
> gpi...@cs.com says...
> > >Subject: AMERICAS WALK FOR DIABETES-BIG MIKEY WANTS YOU!
> > >From: "Mike" mike...@hotmail.com
> >
> > Your caps lock key is broken, cretin.
> >
>
> What did you expect from a self proclaimed "Computer consultant"?
>
>
> Chuck
>
> to send mail, remove the 'HatesSpam' from
> Chuck.K1...@Bigfoot.com
>
> Sometimes you gotta go, where every Claven is insane!
> Where every Cliffy post spawns flames
> You gotta be where you can see, that Berman is still inane
> You gotta be where Cliffy is still insane!
Mike
contributions from members of AVLV. Thank you.
I would love to present $500 to the American Diabetes Association in care of
AVLV at the America's Walk for Diabetes being held in Las Vegas on September
20th. I will be walking the 3 mile walk.
Please everyone, send me a check and let's cure this disease in our
lifetime. Diabetes is has became a national epidemic-especially spreading
faster among our young than any other disease in history. It is spreading
faster than AIDS, or Cancer.
I was dismayed to read a comment about diabetes being a result of gluttony
here on the AVLV. This is one of several factors in this disease, but not
the major factor. Diabetes is the cruelest of diseases as it kills you
slowly. It can take away your eyes, your legs, your feet, your kidneys, and
heart. Dying of diabetes is a painful process and it affecteds everyone,
young or old.
Insulin is NOT a cure, only a treatment. And being overweight is NOT the
factor in Juvenile Diabetes. My cousin was skinny as a rail and died at 46
from Type 1 Diabetes. She left behind 3 children.
I have a lockbox set up for all donations. Please send me any amount (made
payable to American Diabetes Association) to
Americas Walk for Diabetes-Las Vegas
Big Mikey
PO Box 7558
Van Nuys, CA 91402
Thanks everyone.
Mike
Mike
your ass everyday loaded with Insulin so you can continue to write the utter
trash you post on the AVLV. How does it feel to have no erection in your
dick, Chuck?
Funny, I thought this was one cause that even YOU would join up with me on.
You truly show to all just what a selfish, stupid, piece of shit you really
are.
Who are you fooling?
You don't even know that you don't even know...
Mike
"Mike" <mike...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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David Berman
attend the event if I'm free.
--Best from David in NV (also a diabetic)
Fred Kinner
We're going to worry about your health when you're in jail, Charlie
COLONburg. Some monster named Leroy with AIDS pumpin' your ass every
night has to take it's toll on a FAT SLOB like you.
>Hey Cliffy, where ya been? I was starting to get worried about your
>health!
>
>
>Chuck
Mike
You have got to be kidding me....
Hey Chuck, I don't have to worry much about you, you got it all figured out.
You will be dead in a few years.
And you the one who is the fool...
Mike
"Chuck.K" <No....@nohow.com> wrote in message
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> In article <bj5op0$fi4u9$1...@ID-63648.news.uni-berlin.de>, mikem4454
> @hotmail.com says...
> > And I''ll bet you don't even think anymore about the needle you stick in
> > your ass everyday loaded with Insulin so you can continue to write the
utter
> > trash you post on the AVLV. How does it feel to have no erection in
your
> > dick, Chuck?
>
> Jesus, you know even less about diabetics than doonie! (not that
> that's hard).
>
> "Needle in the ASS"? "No erection"? What planet are you living on?
> Oh, sorry, you must be talking about your dead relative.
>
> FWIW, people with the disease who have good insurance or who make a
> decent living and can afford it use a pump, which relieves them of
> multiple daily injections and allows them not only must better
> control over the disease, but also the ability to eat and drink what
> and when they want (within some guidelines). You'd know that IF you
> had a clue, but you don't, so............
>
> > Funny, I thought this was one cause that even YOU would join up with me
on.
> > You truly show to all just what a selfish, stupid, piece of shit you
really
> > are.
>
> Yep, always good to use the carrot and stick method to get someone to
> help your cause!
>
> > Who are you fooling?
>
> Obviously, I'm not trying to FOOL anyone. Fortunately, since it's
> YOU we're talking about, being "fooled" is just par for the course.
>
> > You don't even know that you don't even know...
> >
> > Mike
>
> Is that a "Bigmikey"ism?
Mike
I am sure Chuck cannot wait to flame you on that!
Chuck: (tick, tick, tick, tick, boom!...thats the sound of your kidneys and
pancreas dying soon)
What a very stupid man you are....
Keep drinking the old Budwiser and using the Insulin Pump, dumbshit....
Mike
"David Berman" <david...@lvcm.com> wrote in message
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Mike
Mike
"Chuck.K" <No....@nohow.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Kcu5b.43327$nf3.15501@fed1read07>, david...@lvcm.com
> says...
> > Mike, I'll get a check out to you this week, and will certainly try to
> > attend the event if I'm free.
> >
> > --Best from Cliffy at the OLD FOLKS home (also a diabetic)
Mike
It ain't gonna be pretty, Fat Boy....you are such a stupid man....
tick, tick, tick....
Mike
"Fred Kinner" <chu...@lookingupgirlsdress.cam> wrote in message
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Steve G
"Chuck.K" <No....@nohow.com> wrote
> FWIW, people with the disease who have good insurance or who make a
> decent living and can afford it use a pump, which relieves them of
> multiple daily injections and allows them not only must better
> control over the disease, but also the ability to eat and drink what
> and when they want (within some guidelines). You'd know that IF you
> had a clue, but you don't, so............
Ummmmm...The pump is for people who either >can not,< or >>>will not<<<
properly control their insulin through injections. I've read most diabetics
go back to injections after pumping for awhile.
Steve G
"Chuck.K" <No....@nohow.com> wrote
> Yeah....... sure it is stevie. That explains why EVERY medical
> professional I've met who is a type 1 or type II diabetic on insulin
> is on a pump.
That is their choice
> Or why so many young children are put on it right
> after early diagnosis.
A young child generally can't learn/understand well enough to tightly
control diabetes. You don't realize this?
> The pump gives a diabetic back the FREEDOM to
> live a normal life, without having to worry about regimented insulin
> shots and mandatory eating schedules.
The statement stands. Most pumpers who are willing to, or capable of,
tightly controling their diabetes go back to shots. Proper monitoring and
tightly controlled insulin gives better results.
> If you had half a clue (or
> actually knew something about pumpers), you'd know that very few
> people go back to shooting up.
Yeah right. You love the pump. Use it and be happy. You always get so
threatened when someone disagrees. Sheesh don't be so defensive.
> I'd ask you to post your sources,
That's on a "need to know" basis, and you don't need to know.
Now go ahead and make something up.
Steve G
"Chuck.K" <No....@nohow.com> wrote
> > That is their choice
>
> Yep, and as professionals who have not only the most up to date
> information, but access to the latest equipment, these same
> professionals choose to use a pump over a needle delivery system.
>
> I wonder why? (not really, as *I* know why).
In a LARGE number of cases, they recommend them because a diabetic is unable
(poor eyesight, poor dexterity, overwhelmed by fear of the disease, etc....)
to adminster shots, or manage their disease. In a LARGE number of cases, a
diabetic won't change poor habits and refuse (for whatever reason) to
closely manage their condition. In both cases, the pump is clearly
preferable to the alternative.
> > A young child generally can't learn/understand well enough to tightly
> > control diabetes. You don't realize this?
>
> How does a type 1 diabetic "tightly control diabetes"? Just saying
> it shows you don't have a CLUE what this disease represents to many
> type 1's.
By 1) Carefully monitoring their BG. 2) Looking ahead to see what they
expect the day to hold by way of times and type of foods and exercise. 3)
Adjusting their insulin in responce. 4) Adjusting their medication on the
fly to adapt to changing situations. It's not easy, but many prefer to do
it themsleves.
>
> > The statement stands. Most pumpers who are willing to, or capable of,
> > tightly controling their diabetes go back to shots. Proper monitoring
and
> > tightly controlled insulin gives better results.
>
> Sorry, but until you come up with something other than your opinion
> (which is worthless), your statement is a joke.
You gave nothing but your opinion.
> BTW, just HOW does a
> needle do a better job of delivering "tightly controlled insulin",
Here you go again. I never said "a needle (can) do a better job of
delivering "tightly controlled insulin,"" and you know it. The individual
is responsible for the tight control, not the syringe.
> over a pump, which can deliver a bolus down to .1 unit? When you
> answer that one, I'll be really impressed!
>
> > Yeah right. You love the pump. Use it and be happy. You always get so
> > threatened when someone disagrees. Sheesh don't be so defensive.
>
> I LOVE my pump. Now, if you could just post some FACTS
Yeah, your "facts" consist of you liking the pump.
> to back up
> your allegations, we'd be much better off, but that seems to be too
> much to ask from you. Figures.
LOL I made no allegations. You're just blowing smoke trying to turn this
into another engine/motor or low lake levels fishing contest again. Knock
yourself out.
The pump is a one weapon in the diabetics arsenal. Relax, you're all
defensive again.
> > That's on a "need to know" basis, and you don't need to know.
>
> Yeah, who'd a thunk it?
>
> > Now go ahead and make something up.
>
> No need, you've already done quite enough of that.
Mike
Since Chuck seems to know all about Diabetes, lets just bury him within the
next five years or less with his pump. He'll like that.
Chuck, you are so ignorant. Saying the pump allows you to eat anything you
want is like telling an alcoholic after 45 days at Betty Ford to celebrate
and have a nice drink....
Knowing you, if you had your foot amputated (a common complication of
Daibetes) you would scream,"But I used my pump!"
Keep being stupid, Chuckfuck...
tick...tick...tick...
Mike
Mike
"Steve G" <sgeise@rocketmale(change male to mail).com> wrote in message
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David Berman
>
> In a LARGE number of cases, they recommend them because a diabetic is
> unable (poor eyesight, poor dexterity, overwhelmed by fear of the
> disease, etc....) to adminster shots, or manage their disease. In a
> LARGE number of cases, a diabetic won't change poor habits and refuse
> (for whatever reason) to closely manage their condition. In both
> cases, the pump is clearly preferable to the alternative.
>
That makes sense, Steve, and would certainly go a long way to explain
man-child's reliance on the pump.
"Fear of the disease" is undoubtedly one of the strongest points you make in
his case, as it is clear that he is fearful of lots of things, especially
the growing legion of AVLV folks with whom he disagrees on even the most
trivial of subjects. Lacking the basic skills to discuss or debate topics in
an intelligent manner as most "normal" people would, the only way he knows
how to respond is to treat all these folks as his personal enemies and
revert back to the type of schoolyard bully he most likely was -or was
victimized by- in his youth.
I'm not sure I'll ever get over the constant amazement at observing someone
who actually revels in the disgust directed toward him from so many. No one
could behave that way and have any self-respect, no matter how vigorously he
may claim otherwise.
--
David Berman
> Steve:
>
> Since Chuck seems to know all about Diabetes, lets just bury him
> within the next five years or less with his pump. He'll like that.
>
> Chuck, you are so ignorant. Saying the pump allows you to eat
> anything you want is like telling an alcoholic after 45 days at Betty
> Ford to celebrate and have a nice drink....
>
> Knowing you, if you had your foot amputated (a common complication of
> Daibetes) you would scream,"But I used my pump!"
>
> Keep being stupid, Chuckfuck...
>
> tick...tick...tick...
>
Since he's going on 53, Mike, that clock will probably start accelerating.
With some of the things he talks about eating (and drinking), it's for sure
he's playing with fire where his disease is concerned.
It's almost without doubt that he's not only the most offensive middle-aged
adolescent to grace Usenet in a long, long time, but no one comes close to
challenging him for the title of King of the Hypocrites. It's a constant
source of hilarity to see him jump on others for their spelling errors in
posts that contain errors of his own. And his never-ending babbling about
providing "proof" of the idiotic things he says is the biggest joke of all.
Long before you subscribed to AVLV, he actually ackonwledged that he
deliberately lies about many things in order to stir things up. His
deliberate lies include many that involve me, such as claiming I'd never
move to Nevada, that I drive a Camry, that I don't receive my local
newspapers by delivery on my driveway, that my HDTV was a phantom product
that did not exist, etc., etc., as well as a slew of unrelated claims -never
documented by him- such as stupidly saying that George Maloof owns a
percentage of Green Valley Ranch.
He could never prove any of those ridiculous claims, because they were false
and he knows it.
I suppose it is rather flattering that I am such a shadow over him that he
can't even report on interesting Vegas-related news without working me into
his posts. I guess the latest would be something having to do with the big
fire our general area suffered yesterday. The man is so totally obsessed
with me that it has clearly taken over a large part of his life. How very
sad and pathetic.
Mike
first watched the wars between you and him, and others. I just never had the
time I do now.
By the way, you owe me big time the last couple of weeks as I have drawn the
heat off you and became #1 on his hit list. I saw we go to Makino and YOU
buy the drinks (non alcoholic). :)
He never thought I would move back either. But not only am I back, but
walking on 9/20 at the walk, so anytime he wants to meet me he can. Of
course. like you, he would just turn and run.
Come by the event if you can.
Mike
"David Berman" <david...@lvcm.com> wrote in message
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Rusty Swing
> The statement stands. Most pumpers who are willing to, or capable of,
> tightly controling their diabetes go back to shots. Proper monitoring and
> tightly controlled insulin gives better results.
Proper monitoring and tightly controlled insulin does give better results
however the pump is by far the best delivery method at the present time.
Steve G
Okay Chuck, back up. You're spinning out of control. Hope you don't blow
lunch. THIS is what I said:
"Ummmmm...The pump is for people who either >can not,< or >>>will not<<<
properly control their insulin through injections. I've read most diabetics
go back to injections after pumping for awhile."
You have not disproved it yet.
I also said (later):
"Proper monitoring and tightly controlled insulin gives better results."
That's a gray area. I know some old timers who tried and disliked pumping.
They said their A1C was better when they "did it themselves." Let me
rephrase that. "Proper monitoring and tightly controlled insulin gives
better results FOR SOME.
You went on to throw your typical fit and throw everything into the mix you
could. That's all below this line:
> You STILL haven't answered the question of how a type I "closely
> manages their condition". Since MOST type I and insulin dependant
> type II diabetics can't get by with simple diet and exercise to
> "control" their disease, how does one "closely manage their
> condition".
??You responded to it below!
> I'd LOVE to hear that answer (as would my Doc, who writes papers on
> it for the NEJM).
LOL your DOCTOR writes papers. YOUR DOCTOR, not YOU.
> > By 1) Carefully monitoring their BG. 2) Looking ahead to see what they
> > expect the day to hold by way of times and type of foods and exercise.
3)
> > Adjusting their insulin in responce. 4) Adjusting their medication on
the
> > fly to adapt to changing situations. It's not easy, but many prefer to
do
> > it themsleves.
>
> stevie, 1) you can monitor your BG 24/7 (I know, I've done MULTIPLE
> trials with a couple of different subQ and external continuous BG
> monitoring devices) and it doesn't do SQUAT for the type I or type II
> who can't manage the disease with simple diet and exercise. All it
> does it tell you how bad your condition might be and how much insulin
> you're gonna need to counteract it.
Isn't THAT the point of monitoring?
> 2) Explain how someone "looks
> ahead to see what they expect the day to hold by way of times and
> type of foods and exercise". At least, someone with a NORMAL life!
> Not everyone can eat at pre-assigned times and not everyone can eat
> pre-measured meals, nor should they HAVE to.
But some CAN, and DO. They've made that decision. No one cares if you
think it's not normal.
> 3) Explain how they
> "adjust their insulin in response", when "they" have to inject their
> insulin LONG BEFORE "they" eat.
Look up "Humalog."
> Kind of tough to "adjust" something
> that is already in the bloodstream, and if you don't EAT........
You're asking me "how" and there it is. The pump might be better. I said
many pumpers go back to doing it themselves. Here:___________________ Call
them Idiots in that space. I'm sure any in control diabetic really cares
what you think (not.)
> well, ask Mrs. doonie how well that works for her after her "near
> death experience"! 4). I'm STILL laughing at this one! How does a
> type I or insulin dependant type II "adjust (ing) their medication on
> the fly to adapt to changing situations"? You either don't
> understand how this works, or are just making this crap up! When
> you've already dosed for your noon meal and something comes up at the
> office where you have to MISS lunch, explain to me how you "adjust"
> for the fact that you're going to go HYPO in a few minutes!
Now you're arguing which is better. Spin spin spin.
A diabetic had better know how to treat a hypo, that's all I can say. Even
WITH the pump, no Dr. would advise a patient to NOT be prepared for a hypo.
> Or, when
> you just gotta have that second piece of pizza, how do you "adjust"
> for the fact that in 3 hours, you're gonna go HYPER!
> Yeah....... right....... "MANY" prefer to use an outdated, barbaric
> means of injecting themselves with their necessary medication. Uh
> huh! Sure they do!
LOL Barbaric! The new needles are so small they are painless.
>
> > You gave nothing but your opinion.
>
> I'll be HAPPY to point you to any number of online sources, or you
> could just look in the New England Journal of Medicine.
Where is a source that disproves my original statement? You'll just give me
links that run in circles around all the other stuff you're throwing around
> > Yeah, your "facts" consist of you liking the pump.
>
> Mine, and the hundreds of thousands of folks who are FREE of having
> to do it the old fashioned way, and are no longer tethered to a rigid
> schedule of testing/shots/eating.
Good for you, and them. Be happy.
> > LOL I made no allegations. You're just blowing smoke trying to turn this
> > into another engine/motor or low lake levels fishing contest again.
Knock
> > yourself out.
>
> Well, that's the SECOND time you've managed to avoid backing up your
> opinion with facts. Wanna try for 3?
LOL you have YET to produce a single fact. Your opinion is not fact any
more than ANYONE elses'.
David Berman
> "Chuck.K" <No....@nohow.com <mailto:No....@nohow.com>> wrote
>
> Okay Chuck, back up. You're spinning out of control. Hope you don't
> blow lunch. THIS is what I said:
>
> "Ummmmm...The pump is for people who either >can not,< or >>>will
> not<<< properly control their insulin through injections. I've read
> most diabetics go back to injections after pumping for awhile."
>
>> ahead to see what they expect the day to hold by way of times and
>> type of foods and exercise". At least, someone with a NORMAL life!
>> Not everyone can eat at pre-assigned times and not everyone can eat
>> pre-measured meals, nor should they HAVE to.
>
> But some CAN, and DO. They've made that decision. No one cares if
> you think it's not normal.
>
Though I'm not a Type 1 as he is, Steve, I can certainly vouch for what you
say.
I find it no trouble at all to look ahead and plan my eating schedule around
my other activities expected for the day, with only a few exceptions here
and there. If I know that I will go longer between meals than I should, then
I make sure I have appropriate, healthful snacks handy. And if I'm not sure
that I'll find what I need when dining out, I usually call ahead to ask, or
I inquire upon arriving. Most restaurants are all too happy to accommodate
diners with special needs, and of course the buffets are simply a matter of
picking and choosing.
I guess man-child is suggesting that he doesn't know how to do proper
planning, both for his daily schedule and for his food intake. Such a pity.
One of the countless benefits of our moving to Nevada, IMHO, and somewhat
ironically, is that I've received better medical care/supervision than in
Boston. With the assistance of a highly regarded local diabetes educator and
top-notch endocrinologist/diabetes expert, I was able to lose weight and
develop an approach toward eating that has brought my daily blood sugar down
from the 150-190 range when I moved here to the 80-130 range now. I was
taught how to monitor my progress, and I keep a daily record of my weight,
blood pressure and blood sugar results, which allows me and my medical
providers to see progress and changes. Doing all this successfully, my
doctor says, allows me to continue with oral medication and avoid having to
go on insulin. And I'm hardly inconvenienced by the tiny little pinprick
made by the lancet. Such routines are what I do to maintain my health, and
they are more a labor of love than a burdensome task.
Unlike man-child's constant attacks on so many, I have never put down him or
anyone else on the basis of their medical conditions, as having good health
supersedes anything else in life. But I do believe it is not a stretch to
surmise that one who is not in control of his emotions, and is essentially a
sociopath, is not likely to be in control of other important aspects of his
life. So in that regard I am not surprised that he attempts to disseminate
the same uninformed "information" about diabetes as he does about all the
other things he fictionalizes on AVLV
Bunch-a-lunch
one's blood sugar measurement, taken upwards of five times a day, one uses
an equation given by their doctor for administering an adjusted dose of
insulin. They did this with my mom in the nursing home, to manage her
fairly unmanageable type 2. It worked up until the last year or so of her
life. Then very little worked.
Also being worked on right now is a pump that will take the blood sugar
reading automatically and, just as automatically, pump the proper amount of
insulin into the body. They discussed it recently on http://www.webmd.com
.
People taking oral meds really can't do the same. Frankly, I don't know
why the doctors want them to take the sugar readings five times a day.
It's not like you're going to take more oral meds.
Oral meds come in two varieties: one that kick starts the pancreas to
produce more insulin (glyburide is one example, and is very dangerous
because it can ultimately wear out the pancreas altogether-- not good,
since it does more than just produce insulin). The other fights insulin
resistance (metformin, actos). Insulin resistance is the big problem in
type 2.
I almost died last August of an arrhythmia. They still don't know if it
was atrial fibrulation or ventricular tachycardia. The portable heart
monitor only told them it was a bad rhythm. Anyway, I was pushing 400 lbs.
My sugars were under control, but the blood pressure was out of sight.
Diabetes (hyperglycemia) will attack the heart (congestive heart failure is
a serious complication) and kidneys. Electrical problems and enlargement
of the heart are signs of it.
As I lay in the hospital bed, I did what so many do. I asked God to please
show me something I can do to get better. I change the TV channel, and
there's my local PBS station with a pledge drive show. Gary Null was
talking about his vegetarial-based diet. I said to God, "Okay. I get it."
Well, since then I've lost 100. I've done it with Null's plan (the book
cost all of $10). It involves lots of supplements and vegetable juices,
combined with aerobic and anerobic exercise. I'm up to about an hour a
day, now. Very few heart skips (early heartbeats, which were rampant
before). My sugars and bp are both down, which is great. Feel much
better, too. And the doc has taken me off glyburide and one of the bp
meds.
Type 2 diabetics really should work on losing weight. Easier said than
done, I know. But it can be done.
What I'm doing is expensive... all organics. I make my own juices (I know
it sounds odd, but celery and apple juice taste pretty awesome together),
wore out one juicer (Juiceman Jr) and bought a more heavy duty one (Jack
LaLanne-- works great... don't waste your money on the Juiceman Jr).
But the way I look at it is this: it's much less expensive to do this than
a stay in the hospital. And much less expensive per year than buying a
funeral and grave plot.
It does make a Vegas trip a bit tougher, though. It's a hard place when
you don't eat animal-based protein, including dairy or eggs.
Another type of diet some are using is the glycemic index diet. I'm a bit
skeptical of its claims, but some of the science seems sound. According to
this thiking, some foods raise blood sugar more than others, and keep it
elevated longer than others. The idea is to eat low to moderate glycemic
foods. And for God sakes, don't eat pizza. The worst glycemic reading of
all. More than straight glucose. And no white bread, white rice, refined
white breads, etc... you'd be better off eating rock candy.
And you can do both vegetarian and glycemic index. They work well
together.
I hope this is helpful to some. It is possible to make adjustments to
better manage diabetes.
And please donate to Big Mikey and the American Diabetes Association. If
enough people pitch in the price of one Big Mac Value Meal per week, we'd
have diabetes licked in no time. And probably heart disease, too.
Chuck.K <No....@No.how.com> wrote in
news:MPG.19c4ff313...@news.west.earthlink.net:
> In article <J8OdnXbiku_...@comcast.com>, sgeise@rocketmale
> says...
Bunch-a-lunch
inject it. You inhale it. Strange idea. But apparently it metabolizes
faster and more completely.
I hope this works. Mom went through hell with the injections and constant
testing.
Mike
Gary Null is a genius in his own time. So are Barry Sears, Drs Michael and
Mary Eades and of course the late Robert Atkins.
While I am more into Atkins rather than Null, NUTRITION is the key.
Carbohydrates are the enemy-not fat. Both Atkins and Null agree on this.
We seem to obsessed about a 'low fat' diet but not a lower carbohydrate
diet.
And of course, we are all guilty of eating too much, not exercising enough,
etc. Living in Las Vegas doesn't often help in doing things to the excess
either.
One of the things I truly enjoyed however when I grew up here was that the
people of Las Vegas have a real soul to them. This is one of the most
generous cities in the USA. Now that I have returned I still see that same
spirit. This is truly one of the last 'melting pots' of America. I am also
amazed that in a town that doesn't pay very well, people still give to
others. Perhaps they understand the need to help others.
Good luck in you continued success to take control of your life. I will be
walking for you too!
All the best,
Big Mikey
"Bunch-a-lunch" <Mo...@eatalot.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93EFE1101DCD7Sh...@63.223.5.101...
David Berman
>
> Well, since then I've lost 100. I've done it with Null's plan (the
> book cost all of $10). It involves lots of supplements and vegetable
> juices, combined with aerobic and anerobic exercise. I'm up to about
> an hour a day, now. Very few heart skips (early heartbeats, which
> were rampant before). My sugars and bp are both down, which is
> great. Feel much better, too. And the doc has taken me off
> glyburide and one of the bp meds.
>
That's the type of story I love to read.
Thanks for sharing it. Congratulations on your success to date!!
Evil Elvis
> As usual, Cliffy doesn't have a CLUE what he's talking about. I'm
> not a type I. I'm a type II who uses insulin as a practical
> alternative to oral meds that don't do as good a job at controlling
> my particular disease.
How *is* your DIABETES coming, PORK CHOP? No cure for THAT
horrible disease yet, eh? Oh well, I guess you can just suffer with
the HUMILIATION of having to carry around your little (snort) pump and
insulin with you to all the supposed (snort) "hip" and "trendy"
restaurants you CLAIM to go to. Man, you must be a real chick magnet
there, PORK CHOP.
I can just see it now, "Hey, check out the PORKER in the corner
with the insulin pump. I gotta meet him!"
(SNORT!)
> BLA BLA BLA! Obviously, Cliffy ain't much of a type II (commonly
> referred to as an "easy diabetic").
Just how (snort) "easy" is it for you to be a DIABETIC, PORK CHOP?
Tell us of how you have to suffer from the humiliation of pricking
yourself with a needle every ten minutes.
> Yet another of DOCTOR CLIFFY's misdiagnoses! No wonder he can't
> practice medicine anymore than he can practice LAW!
Just how many (snort) degrees do you have again, PORK CHOP? What!?
None!? I thought so.
(SNORT!)
> Bawhahahahahaha
>
> ONLY Cliffy would compare the medical treatment available in Las
> Vegas to that in Boston and suggest that LV's is SUPERIOR!
PORK CHOP, just how many years did YOU live in Boston?
> The only doctors left in Las Vegas are those too lazy to move away, those
> who can't afford to move and those who got their medical training in a
> third world country.
Those supposed doctors who "got their medical training in a thrid
world country" have more education than you, PORK CHOP.
And I am sure you have stats to back up your CLAIMS????
> (snort) This one I GOTTA hear! Come on Cliffy...... tell us a name!
Tell us all the name of your (snort) type 2 DIABETIC doctor, PORK
CHOP.
> Pity you can't do the same for your prostate!
How's your (SNORT!) "wife in a can" doing? How nice of you to have
cremated your DEAD FIRST WIFE. But to keep her in a Maxwell House can
on top of your mantle in your (snort) $170K house that's "easily
verified" as Lynne's by the Clark County, NV assessor??? How trite.
> No Cliffy, you just SUPPORT other people who not only do what you
> CLAIM not to, but preach HATE and anti-Semitism. What's worse is,
> you CLAIM to invite these same people to DINE with you!
I wonder who you are referring to, PORK CHOP? Surely not moi, as
you CLAIMED that I have "never actually met Cliffy", which I could
easily do a Google search on and once again prove that you are nothing
but a f*cking liar.
> AMAZING that your principles allow you to interact with someone who
> preaches hating Jews, while claiming to BE a Jew, or attack a
> diabetic while you CLAIM to be a diabetic!
(SNOOOOORRRRRTTTT!) I wonder who the asshole is that PREACHES HATE
towards people of Latin American descent? How many times you used the
word "wetback" there, PORK CHOP? Kinda like calling the pot calling
the kyke.....ooops, I meant KETTLE, black.
> Oh yeah, you have REAL
> morals and principles! You're the Jew that helped lead his comrades
> to the GAS CHAMBER,
I thought that was another DEAD RELATIVE of yours who did that?
You remember SAM KOHLENBERG, don't you, PORK CHOP?
Wasn't SAM KOHLENBERG the one who did that to your people in WW2?
Oh, that's right.....YOU'RE NOT JEWISH ANYMORE, RIGHT? You superglued
your foreskin back on your needle dick and now you're (SNORT!)
SUPER-AGNOSTIC-MAN!!!
By the way, how did the anniversary of SAM KOHLENBERG'S DEATH go? He
DID die on August 1st, 1991, didn't he? What did he DIE of? Was it
CANCER like your FIRST DEAD WIFE IN A CAN? Was it DIABETES like YOU
suffer from? Was that your DADDy? AWWWWWWW! How precious. The PORK
CHOP and his DIABETIC, CANCER-RIDDEN DADDy KKKohlenberg. I'll name
him the PORK RIND!!!!!
> or should I say, the DOCTOR who removed the gold
> filings from their mouths before they were led away to slaughter!
Do you think those ovens used in Auschwitz can be converted to
kitchen size? I have a kyke....oops, there I go again, a CAKE to
bake. Must be that Freudian slip thing. You know how us "wetbacks"
are, right PORK CHOP?
> BTW, say hello to your GOOD FRIEND Elvis the WETBACK for us!
WHOA, BETSY!!! As Ronald Retard Reagan once said: "There you go
again!"
Gee whiz, PORK CHOP, for a guy who just got off his soapbox to call
the kettle black you just turn right around and proved to everyone
what a RACIST dipshit you really are. I hope Dave, Big Mikey, Andrew,
Danni and Dick Goldhaber and all of the other good people on AVLV who
are Jewish don't get offended by your comments.
By the way, all of the AVLVers who ARE Jewish are PROUD (as they
should be) to be what they are. They are PROUD of their Jewish
ancestry and, unlike you, don't cower away and CLAIM that they are
something that they are not. In fact, it was YOU who, when pressed by
me a few months ago, TUCKED HIS LITTLE TAIL in between his legs and
CLAIMED NOT TO BE A JEW!!! What a f*cking coward!!!
Although I am not Jewish and mean no disrespect to those that are
(except towards YOU, but that doesn't matter anyway since you CLAIM
you are NOT Jewish), I am PROUD of being who I am and I am PROUD of my
Latin roots and PROUD to be Catholic and PROUD to be American, etc.
YOU, are ASHAMED to be called a Jew. Being a Jew is badge of honor
that most people with cojones would wear with pride on their sleeve.
Of course, you have NO COJONES!
So, go ahead and be a coward the rest of your life. When all of
the aforementioned above and myself meet in Las Vegas in a few months
we will have a ball. We'll drink and gamble and laugh (mostly at you)
and have a jolly old time.
YOU, OTOH, will be typing on your computer about how you (SNORT)
OWN Discount TV, a claim easily disposed of when I spoke with Dennis
last week. You know Dennis, an employee of WILLIAM BAYGENTS who works
at Discount TV? Dennis and I were laughing so hard when I told him
you CLAIMED to be the OWNER of Discount TV when I looked up the record
on secretary of state's website and, lo and behold......it was owned
by WILLIAM BAYGENTS!
Dennis laughed so hard he had to put the phone down for about 15
minutes so he wouldn't DIE of hyperventilation. When I called him
last week he told me you were an INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR who tinkered
with USED VCRs and TVs and that you worked there only on occasion. I
am SURE that he discussed this with you some time ago as I spoke with
him again to CONFIRM what a F*CKING IDIOT you were to work with and
that he felt sorry for you every time he saw you.
But who could blame him? Since we spoke a week ago he and I have
become such good friends that I am thinking about inviting him over to
Las Vegas with the rest of the AVLV gang so that he can tell us some
jokes. And guess what? The jokes will be ON YOU!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I wonder what William Baygents would say if I
called him at his HOUSE in Riverside? Hmmmm.....
Oh, my! Where is that SUMMONS when you need it?!!!! Why, it was
in your mailbox! I have a bit of advice for you: The next time you
get a SUMMONS in the mail to appear in court - DO NOT IGNORE IT!
Well, PORK CHOP, I am done embarrassing you for the evening. I
have a movie to prepare to shoot. Gonna work a lot of long hours on
this one. Principal photography starts in a few weeks. I can't wait
to get on the set again with all of these stars. Sometimes I just
can't believe that I work in the entertainment industry.
By the way: I know EXACTLY what SQUIBS are! A lot of people in
the "industry" DO NOT KNOW what they are. You would know that if you
had ever set foot on a movie or television set. But since you don't
even own (SNORT!) your own petty little USED TELEVISION STORE, you
wouldn't know what I am talking about.
Don't stay up too late typing a response. You KNOW how that
affects your.....D-I-A-B-E-T-E-S.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DonB
2 comments. First about the pump. How many out there thought as i did
that the only pump CK has is the erection pump.
Second. Very interesting information about CK's business. Does this
mean he was Lying? Imagine that. Caught in a lie. The guy is a lie.
Just like the "his" Vegas second home that is in his wife's name.
hehate...@hotmail.com (Evil Elvis) wrote in message news:<91f2acf.03090...@posting.google.com>...
Steve G
Chuck.K" <No....@No.how.com> wrote >
Well, you never disproved what I said. I try to be reasonable, so let me
just add that what I said originally appears to have been too sweeping in
its' context.
> > Okay Chuck, back up. You're spinning out of control. Hope you don't
blow
> > lunch. THIS is what I said:
> >
> > "Ummmmm...The pump is for people who either >can not,< or >>>will not<<<
> > properly control their insulin through injections. I've read most
diabetics
> > go back to injections after pumping for awhile."
> >
> > You have not disproved it yet.
>
> But you've YET to state WHERE you "read" your supposed fact! How
> bout it stevie? Point me to the prose!
>
> Since the vast majority of medical professionals with the disease use
> a pump, I'd side with them as to the efficacy over doing it the old
> fashioned way with multiple daily needle sticks.
>
> > I also said (later):
> >
> > "Proper monitoring and tightly controlled insulin gives better results."
> > That's a gray area. I know some old timers who tried and disliked
pumping.
> > They said their A1C was better when they "did it themselves." Let me
> > rephrase that. "Proper monitoring and tightly controlled insulin gives
> > better results FOR SOME.
>
> Give us a percentage? 1 out of a hundred? 1 out of a thousand?
> You're the one claiming it works better, yet the vast majority of
> medical research says your wrong. Show me!
>
> > You went on to throw your typical fit and throw everything into the mix
you
> > could. That's all below this line:
>
> BZZZT, sorry, but you are the one throwing out stats that you can't
> seem to back up with facts! If "Proper monitoring and tightly
> controlled insulin gives better results" for only 1 out of a thousand
> people, then your premise that it works better for "some" is
> ludicrous!
>
> > LOL your DOCTOR writes papers. YOUR DOCTOR, not YOU.
>
> Yes, my DOCTOR, who is a type II insulin dependant diabetic and a
> multi published expert in the field of diabetes research and
> treatment. He also happens to not only use a pump, but recommends
> them for all of his insulin dependant patients who can afford them,
> as they give the patient back the freedom to lead a mostly NORMAL
> life!
>
> > Isn't THAT the point of monitoring?
>
> What good does monitoring do if you can't do anything about your BG
> levels? The AVERAGE type I using normal (NPH or L) insulin and shots
> is unable to "adjust on the fly" as you suggest.
>
> > But some CAN, and DO. They've made that decision. No one cares if you
> > think it's not normal.
>
> "SOME"? Again, HOW MANY? Until you give me numbers that can be
> backed up with empirical data, you're just blowing smoke.
>
> > Look up "Humalog."
>
> Bzzzt....... The AVERAGE insulin dependant diabetic doesn't USE
> Humalog (lispro), since the average Physician won't prescribe it for
> them. Now you're talking about people who do their own MIXING of
> both Humalog and NPH.
>
> Tell me, how does a needle shooter "adjust on the fly" for a .04 dose
> of lispro?
>
> Oh, and how many injections a day is this (supposed) "better
> monitored and tightly controlled" person getting? (ouch)
>
> > You're asking me "how" and there it is. The pump might be better. I
said
> > many pumpers go back to doing it themselves. Here:___________________
Call
> > them Idiots in that space. I'm sure any in control diabetic really
cares
> > what you think (not.)
>
> Again, point us to some DATA that says "many pumpers go back to doing
> it themselves"! ANY data?
>
> There sure ain't any on the various pump websites that exist and the
> sure ain't any on the insulin-pumpers.org site! One would THINK that
> if there were a large number of people who had gone off the pump and
> were doing better without it, we'd have heard about it by now!
>
> > Now you're arguing which is better. Spin spin spin.
>
> Again, ask Mrs. doonie how well her "tight control" is working for
> her!
>
> > A diabetic had better know how to treat a hypo, that's all I can say.
Even
> > WITH the pump, no Dr. would advise a patient to NOT be prepared for a
hypo.
>
> Uhhh.... again, I refer you to Mrs doonie! (and MR. doonie as well)!
>
> > LOL Barbaric! The new needles are so small they are painless.
>
> GUAFB! If the "new needles" were PAINLESS, why are millions of
> dollars going into research on other delivery systems (including
> nasal sprays and high pressure subQ injection)? Painless my ass!
>
> > Where is a source that disproves my original statement? You'll just
give me
> > links that run in circles around all the other stuff you're throwing
around
>
> Start with
>
> www.insulin-pumpers.org
>
> which is perhaps the best site for anyone needing to inject insulin.
>
> From there you can go on to
>
> www.diabetesnet.com/
> www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/
> www.2aida.org/
> www.diabetes.ca/
>
> If you'd like more, I have a whole list!
>
> > Good for you, and them. Be happy.
>
> We are, thank you!
>
> > LOL you have YET to produce a single fact. Your opinion is not fact any
> > more than ANYONE elses'.
>
> The difference is, my opinion is based on years of real world
> experience. That, and access to some of the newest and latest
> research data on the disease and its treatment, along with direct
> contact with some of the top people in the field!
>
> Until you show otherwise, your opinion is based on...........
> NOTHING!
>
> But....... that's typical for you.
Mike
Arguing with Chuck is pointless. We will eventually be standing over him at
Sunrise Hospital some day watching him fight for his life.
Do you live in Las Vegas? Come by the Diabetes booths on 9/20 and get the
real information. Chuck is just too stupid to learn the truth.
Mikey
Bunch-a-lunch
probably a broken heart from the loss of his beloved June earlier this
year) should give pause to all who are cursed or who have a relative or
friend with diabetes.
If you want to know what insulin diabetics go through, listen to Cash's
song "The Hurt". It's from his last album. Indeed his last four albums
were the best he ever made.
Rest in peace, Johnny.
We will struggle on.
And one day, over this disease, we will prevail!
CHKKK
>No need to be a "chick magnet" when I have the best looking woman in
>the world MARRIED to me.
BEST LOOKING????????????????
Lynne is OK at best, Chuckie and I've seen her "close up". Closer
than you would be comfortable with. She was quite happy about it
though. Too bad you can't satisfy her anymore, Chuckie....if you ever
really could.
mxa
>
>
> > who can't afford to move and those who got their medical training in a
> > third world country.
>
Ah, yes. More great information from Chuck, who on this topic knows
more than the State Board of Medical Examiners:
"Despite warnings that doctors were leaving Nevada due to the rising
cost of medical malpractice insurance, there are more physicians with
active licenses now than there were at the end of 2001, when some say
a medical malpractice crisis began, a state board reports."
For more, see http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2003/09/06/51039.php
Pond Scum
>Ah, yes. More great information from Chuck, who on this topic knows
>more than the State Board of Medical Examiners:
>"Despite warnings that doctors were leaving Nevada due to the rising
>cost of medical malpractice insurance, there are more physicians with
>active licenses now than there were at the end of 2001, when some say
>a medical malpractice crisis began, a state board reports."
I'd bet that if you looked at the high-risk specialties, like obstetrics
and emergency medicine, there are fewer practicing in Nevada now than two
years ago. Those specializing in high-risk fields were hit the hardest
by rising malpractice insurance premiums. You didn't hear many complain
that their dermatologist was leaving the state and they couldn't find
another one.
The influx of licensed physicians could be explained by the opening of
several large new strip clubs in the past two years. The local cosmetic
surgeons were probably overwhelmed by all the requests for breast
augmentation.
In case you are super dense, the second paragraph in this post wasn't meant
to be taken seriously.
-Jonathan jh...@sonic.net
Mike
Vegas? Last time I checked, there seemed to be plenty of doctors in Las
Vegas. Do tell.
I am in a problem now as I have my company and insurance in LA but will be
living more in Las Vegas. When we shopped for a company to insure us in LA,
only Kaiser would take us due to size (small, under 15 employees) and Blue
Cross, Blue Shield, etc were just too much. After dealing with Kaiser for
years, it seems to me the hospitals in Las Vegas are nicer and newer. I am
NO fan of Kaiser but I still have employees who depend on affordable
coverage.
But workers comp in CA is really outrageous!
I take issue with you, however. There are more plastic surgeons in SO CAL
doing surgery on EVERYONE these days than has Chuck boils on his face. Too
bad he cannot afford some serious surgery...
Mikey
"Pond Scum" <jh...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:yOy9b.21972$dk4.6...@typhoon.sonic.net...
mxa
>
> I'd bet that if you looked at the high-risk specialties, like obstetrics
> and emergency medicine, there are fewer practicing in Nevada now than two
> years ago.
Maybe, although the article reports that the GAO made random calls to
30 OB/GYN's in Las Vegas and 28 of them were taking new patients, with
average waits for the first appointment of just a few weeks. That
doesn't sound like a dire shortage of doctors in that specialty.
Pond Scum
>> I'd bet that if you looked at the high-risk specialties, like obstetrics
>> and emergency medicine, there are fewer practicing in Nevada now than two
>> years ago.
>Maybe, although the article reports that the GAO made random calls to
>30 OB/GYN's in Las Vegas and 28 of them were taking new patients, with
>average waits for the first appointment of just a few weeks. That
>doesn't sound like a dire shortage of doctors in that specialty.
If that's correct, then it's welcome news. I didn't think the situation
would reverse itself so quickly.
18 months ago you'd hear stories on the news about pregnant women who
could not find an OB/GYN in the valley to see them, and were going to
California to have their babies. There was not a lot of confidence that
the legislators would find a a solution to the malpractice insurance
crisis anytime soon.
With the exception of the stories every few months reporting the imminent
closure of the trauma center at UMC, things seem to have settled down.
-Jonathan jh...@sonic.net
DonB
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:33:57 GMT, Chuck.K <No....@No.how.com> wrote:
>
>
> >No need to be a "chick magnet" when I have the best looking woman in
> >the world MARRIED to me.
>
> BEST LOOKING????????????????
>
> Lynne is OK at best, Chuckie and I've seen her "close up". Closer
> than you would be comfortable with. She was quite happy about it
> though. Too bad you can't satisfy her anymore, Chuckie....if you ever
> really could.
>
> >
> >Chuck
What's the metter. Did your ISP cancel you again for spamming your
"supposed" TV store.
David Hannu
newspapers to write:
> The last paragraph pretty much sums up the article.
>
> ""This is a real crisis with real numbers and real people,"said Dr.
> Raj Chanderraj, chairman of the Clark County Health Access
> Consortium."The fact that premiums shot up so high that some doctors
> left or stopped doing certain procedures is not disputable."
What's this?? Chuck posting part of an article from a newspaper web
site??
Some idiots would consider this 'plagiarism'. Wouldn't they, Chuck?
--
David Hannu dha...@centurytel.net
David Hannu
> I didn't post the article, MORON! Someone else did. I simply used
> one paragraph of it to respond to him.
Spin, spin, spin.
> Having any luck with that hair problem yet?
I think you have me confused with someone else.
Mike
>In article <91f2acf.03090...@posting.google.com>,
>hehate...@hotmail.com says...
>
>> How *is* your DIABETES coming, PORK CHOP? No cure for THAT
>> horrible disease yet, eh? Oh well, I guess you can just suffer with
>> the HUMILIATION of having to carry around your little (snort) pump and
>> insulin with you to all the supposed (snort) "hip" and "trendy"
>> restaurants you CLAIM to go to. Man, you must be a real chick magnet
>> there, PORK CHOP.
>
>No need to be a "chick magnet" when I have the best looking woman in
>the world MARRIED to me.
>
>Oh..... sorry WETBACK! Marriage is something you will never know
>about, unless you find a willing Priest who will join you and one of
>the men who abuses you on a regular basis
>
>> I can just see it now, "Hey, check out the PORKER in the corner
>> with the insulin pump. I gotta meet him!"
>>
>> (SNORT!)
>
>> Just how (snort) "easy" is it for you to be a DIABETIC, PORK CHOP?
>> Tell us of how you have to suffer from the humiliation of pricking
>> yourself with a needle every ten minutes.
>
>Gee WETBACK, it seems you know even less about Diabetes than you do
>about the MOVIE INDUSTRY! (no SHIT, Jose!)
>
>Just as you didn't know what a "SQUIB" was, you don't know how a pump
>works. Ask someone with a third grade education (maybe one of the
>other BUSBOYS) to explain it to you.
>
>> Just how many (snort) degrees do you have again, PORK CHOP? What!?
>> None!? I thought so.
>>
>> (SNORT!)
>
>You thought wrong, but there is nothing NEW about that!
>
>> PORK CHOP, just how many years did YOU live in Boston?
>
>More than you lived in Las Vegas!
>
>> Those supposed doctors who "got their medical training in a thrid
>> world country" have more education than you, PORK CHOP.
>
>"Thrid"? Yeah, you swam across the river alright!
>
>> And I am sure you have stats to back up your CLAIMS????
>
>More than you have to back up YOUR claims, but that would only
>require................... ONE!!!!!!!!
>
>> Tell us all the name of your (snort) type 2 DIABETIC doctor, PORK
>> CHOP.
>
>Sure WETBACK, right after you give us one SHREAD of fact to back up
>your claims!
>
>Don't worry....... no one is waiting for that.
>
>> How's your (SNORT!) "wife in a can" doing? How nice of you to have
>> cremated your DEAD FIRST WIFE. But to keep her in a Maxwell House can
>> on top of your mantle in your (snort) $170K house that's "easily
>> verified" as Lynne's by the Clark County, NV assessor??? How trite.
>
>Poor WETBACK! Still upset that I HAVE a wife? Yeah, it's gotta
>really rub your ass raw (well, no, your JOHNS do that while they're
>FUCKING it at $5 a shot) that I have a beautiful, talented and
>incredibly wonderful woman who loves me, and all you have is the ever
>changing flow of Johns leaving their CUM in your various orifices and
>the Sunday sermon, followed by sweet, sweet love from the Priests who
>have been molesting you since childhood.
>
>> I wonder who you are referring to, PORK CHOP? Surely not moi, as
>> you CLAIMED that I have "never actually met Cliffy", which I could
>> easily do a Google search on and once again prove that you are nothing
>> but a f*cking liar.
>
>avlv is STILL waiting for some proof, but no one really expects you
>OR Cliffy to offer any.
>
>> (SNOOOOORRRRRTTTT!) I wonder who the asshole is that PREACHES HATE
>> towards people of Latin American descent? How many times you used the
>> word "wetback" there, PORK CHOP? Kinda like calling the pot calling
>> the kyke.....ooops, I meant KETTLE, black.
>
>Who? ME? I LOVE people of "Latin American descent". I just dislike
>WETBACKS! You know, the ILLEGAL ALIENS like YOU who swam across the
>border to take advantage of America's generosity.
>
>BTW, I LOVE it when you refer to me as a KYKE (sic)? I get all warm
>and mushy when you call me a KYKE (sic)! Of course, you are far too
>STUPID to realize the error in your spelling (and the HILARITY of the
>misspelling).
>
>> I thought that was another DEAD RELATIVE of yours who did that?
>> You remember SAM KOHLENBERG, don't you, PORK CHOP?
>
>> Wasn't SAM KOHLENBERG the one who did that to your people in WW2?
>> Oh, that's right.....YOU'RE NOT JEWISH ANYMORE, RIGHT? You superglued
>> your foreskin back on your needle dick and now you're (SNORT!)
>> SUPER-AGNOSTIC-MAN!!!
>>
>> By the way, how did the anniversary of SAM KOHLENBERG'S DEATH go? He
>> DID die on August 1st, 1991, didn't he? What did he DIE of? Was it
>> CANCER like your FIRST DEAD WIFE IN A CAN? Was it DIABETES like YOU
>> suffer from? Was that your DADDy? AWWWWWWW! How precious. The PORK
>> CHOP and his DIABETIC, CANCER-RIDDEN DADDy KKKohlenberg. I'll name
>> him the PORK RIND!!!!!
>
>Awww.... I must have really hit a nerve when I asked IF you ever
>managed to figure out which one of the hundreds of regulars your
>WHORE of a mother was fucking was you dad. Too bad she threw you
>away before you were able to find out.
>
>> Do you think those ovens used in Auschwitz can be converted to
>> kitchen size? I have a kyke....oops, there I go again, a CAKE to
>> bake. Must be that Freudian slip thing. You know how us "wetbacks"
>> are, right PORK CHOP?
>
>HA HA..... you have a "KYKE"? REALLY?
>
>> WHOA, BETSY!!! As Ronald Retard Reagan once said: "There you go
>> again!"
>>
>> Gee whiz, PORK CHOP, for a guy who just got off his soapbox to call
>> the kettle black you just turn right around and proved to everyone
>> what a RACIST dipshit you really are. I hope Dave, Big Mikey, Andrew,
>> Danni and Dick Goldhaber and all of the other good people on AVLV who
>> are Jewish don't get offended by your comments.
>
>No, I'm sure they're ALL impressed all to hell with YOU! Cliffy
>especially!
>
>> By the way, all of the AVLVers who ARE Jewish are PROUD (as they
>> should be) to be what they are. They are PROUD of their Jewish
>> ancestry and, unlike you, don't cower away and CLAIM that they are
>> something that they are not. In fact, it was YOU who, when pressed by
>> me a few months ago, TUCKED HIS LITTLE TAIL in between his legs and
>> CLAIMED NOT TO BE A JEW!!! What a f*cking coward!!!
>>
>> Although I am not Jewish and mean no disrespect to those that are
>> (except towards YOU, but that doesn't matter anyway since you CLAIM
>> you are NOT Jewish), I am PROUD of being who I am and I am PROUD of my
>> Latin roots and PROUD to be Catholic and PROUD to be American, etc.
>> YOU, are ASHAMED to be called a Jew. Being a Jew is badge of honor
>> that most people with cojones would wear with pride on their sleeve.
>> Of course, you have NO COJONES!
>
>OH MY!
>
>I'll just bet the Busboys at Hometown Buffet get all glassy eyed when
>you use THAT speech on them! Too bad it doesn't work on the INS!
>
>> So, go ahead and be a coward the rest of your life. When all of
>> the aforementioned above and myself meet in Las Vegas in a few months
>> we will have a ball. We'll drink and gamble and laugh (mostly at you)
>> and have a jolly old time.
>
>"MEET in LAS VEGAS"! First you have to GET to Las Vegas, and the
>Cheby doesn't seem to be able to make it! Oh wait..... you have a
>new Jag (oh.... sorry.... I keep forgetting that someone "jagged off
>on you" and you just CALL it a "new Jag").
>
>> YOU, OTOH, will be typing on your computer about how you (SNORT)
>> OWN Discount TV, a claim easily disposed of when I spoke with Dennis
>> last week. You know Dennis, an employee of WILLIAM BAYGENTS who works
>> at Discount TV? Dennis and I were laughing so hard when I told him
>> you CLAIMED to be the OWNER of Discount TV when I looked up the record
>> on secretary of state's website and, lo and behold......it was owned
>> by WILLIAM BAYGENTS!
>>
>> Dennis laughed so hard he had to put the phone down for about 15
>> minutes so he wouldn't DIE of hyperventilation. When I called him
>> last week he told me you were an INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR who tinkered
>> with USED VCRs and TVs and that you worked there only on occasion. I
>> am SURE that he discussed this with you some time ago as I spoke with
>> him again to CONFIRM what a F*CKING IDIOT you were to work with and
>> that he felt sorry for you every time he saw you.
>>
>> But who could blame him? Since we spoke a week ago he and I have
>> become such good friends that I am thinking about inviting him over to
>> Las Vegas with the rest of the AVLV gang so that he can tell us some
>> jokes. And guess what? The jokes will be ON YOU!!!
>> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I wonder what William Baygents would say if I
>> called him at his HOUSE in Riverside? Hmmmm.....
>
>I'm not sure what he'd say. I'm STILL waiting for you to call me at
>MY house like you SAID you were going to do!
>
>> Oh, my! Where is that SUMMONS when you need it?!!!! Why, it was
>> in your mailbox! I have a bit of advice for you: The next time you
>> get a SUMMONS in the mail to appear in court - DO NOT IGNORE IT!
>
>"MAILBOX"? "Summons in a MAILBOX"? Gee WETBACK, you're stupidity is
>AMAZING. Not only do you know nothing about diabetes and the movie
>industry, and nothing about Las Vegas, but now you're showing your
>vapidness on legal matters. "summons in a MAILBOX"?
>
>> Well, PORK CHOP, I am done embarrassing you for the evening. I
>> have a movie to prepare to shoot. Gonna work a lot of long hours on
>> this one. Principal photography starts in a few weeks. I can't wait
>> to get on the set again with all of these stars. Sometimes I just
>> can't believe that I work in the entertainment industry.
>
>Oh, you mean you aren't spending the weekend partying with Jen and
>Ben? Come on WETBACK, she's one of your PEOPLE! You have to be on
>the guest list!
>
>Don't worry, you're not the ONLY one who "can't believe you work in
>the entertainment industry"! HAHAHAHA
>
>Oh..... sorry....... Hometown Buffet IS the "entertainment industry"!
>
>> By the way: I know EXACTLY what SQUIBS are! A lot of people in
>> the "industry" DO NOT KNOW what they are. You would know that if you
>> had ever set foot on a movie or television set. But since you don't
>> even own (SNORT!) your own petty little USED TELEVISION STORE, you
>> wouldn't know what I am talking about.
>
>You mean you FINALLY Figured out what a "SQUIB" is? Did you look it
>up online? Maybe one day, you'll figure out where to RENT them?
>Probably about the SAME time you figure out which states allow you to
>sell real estate without a license! HAHAHAHAHAHA Let's see......
>it's 21 states...... right? HAHAHAHAHAHA
>
>> Don't stay up too late typing a response. You KNOW how that
>> affects your.....D-I-A-B-E-T-E-S.
>
>Sorry WETABCK, but staying up late to post to usenet is something I
>leave to Busboy's who have to wait for their manager to leave. OH
>OH, what time did you post this? Almost MIDNIGHT! Yep..... really
>living the "California lifestyle" there WETBACK! Midnight on Monday
>and you're posting to usenet! No date (well, he's waiting for you
>later and he already has his $5.00 out) and no need to rush home (the
>Cheby is in the parking lot).
>
>What was that you were saying? oh yeah.....
>
>
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
>
>
>Chuck
>
>to send mail, remove the 'HatesSpam' from
>Chuck.K1...@Bigfoot.com
>
>Sometimes you gotta go, where every Claven is insane!
>Where every Cliffy post spawns flames
>You gotta be where you can see, that Berman is still inane
>You gotta be where Cliffy is still insane!
LOL!