I'm finally moving to Las Vegas!
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starting thinking seriously about moving to Las Vegas early this year.
It took some doing, but I quit my job and sold my house and I'm moving
to Las Vegas! I'm so excited!
I've been a lurker and very infrequent poster to this group for many,
many years. Now that I will be in town I would like to help out
visitors to this forum anyway I can. So, if I can supply you with some
information or whatever, please let me know.
I leave on May 4th and will be in town on May 7th. (Long drive from
Chicago!)
It will take a few days to get Cox out to set up my broadband
connection, but after that I will be ready to help anyone who needs
it.
See you soon!
Rob-L
Corey
Re: I'm finally moving to Las Vegas!
By: Rob-L to alt.vacation.las-vegas on Sun May 02 2004 11:32 pm
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go away.. we are full.
Help! I've fallen and... Hey! nice carpet!
farinasi...@sbcglobal.net
Heres a few facts about Las Vegas you need to know....
1 No State income tax (compared to california's 9%)
2 Cheaper power bills
3 Easy to get a "CCW"( a permit to carry a conceiled weapon), good for 5
years.
4 a PO Box is a legal "residence" and yes..you can register your cars there.
5 You may legally have a slot machine in your home ( for your own use of
course)
<Rob-L> wrote in message news:m2fb90debol3m2e1d...@4ax.com...
John5240
The facts show, that of all the people who move to Las vegas, fully 1/3 packup
and move out after a year or so. Good luck but don't throw away that roadmap
you use to drive from Chicago.
Harley
For different reasons?.....or only one. Heat ? People??
Sam D.
"John5240" <john...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> The facts show, that of all the people who move to Las vegas, fully 1/3
packup
> and move out after a year or so. Good luck but don't throw away that
roadmap
> you use to drive from Chicago.
I wonder how that compares with the percentage who move to cities other than
Las Vegas and then leave.
John5240
job. There may be other reasons such as the summer heat or they got mugged more
than once a month. Its a good idea to have one years salary tucked away in the
bank before moving anywhere without a job lined up.
Marcia Rovins
John5240 wrote:
You should probably add finding out you can't control your gambling to that list.
Marcia
Big B
The bargans in housing are gone! Apartment rental prices are up too.
There are many houses being sold and bought at windfall sellers'
prices - 50% over what they paid a few years ago.
Parts of Vegas look like a set from "Cops," and I don't mean only N.
L. V. or parts of Freemont Street or Lake Mead. There are not enough
resources to go around. I.e., fire, police, sanitation, roads, city
sevices. I don't know where are the money goes.
There are alot of construction jobs, and P/T casino jobs. Most jobs do
not pay as well as in urban areas of the east and CA. I would stash
away TWO years salary before coming out here. LV is a service town,
and has low-paying service jobs to match. Due to all the transients,
there is a reluctance to hire "new comers."
There is a movement to re-zone commercial industial areas to
residential for more housing. There goes more jobs and more potential
jobs, and Las Vegas' industrial base.
I don't know what people think they are going to find here? I see tons
of garage sales - people struggling to make ends meet - and other
"bad" signs. Pawn shops are everywhere, and they are also in
non-tourist areas. There is a lot of hand-to-mouth living here.
Remember what Horace Greeley said about going West. Well, it's rough
out here, especially if you need to support a family. The southwest is
a good place to retire, with money from a higher-paying part of the
country.
What I (personally) don't like about Vegas is that all the houses
essentially look the same. Like Levittown on crystal meth!
http://www.levittownhistoricalsociety.org/index2.htm I never want to
see stucco over frame construction ever again! In the far north, they
are building houses right on top of each other. Look at the opening of
an old "All in the Family" show to see what that looks like.
There are some people that I know that love it out here. But not me.
GO8GO
is that their private school system isn't bad and there's no waiting list but
the prices are comparable to the top private schools in Southern California.
Big Mikey
I moved here almost a year ago but not with the intentions of looking for a
job. IMHO, unless you have a job already waiting for you, or are self
employed, or are coming here to retire , DO NOT COME TO LIVE IN LAS VEGAS AT
THIS TIME.
I placed a blind ad in the LVRJ last month for someone with PERL, JAVA and
Quark experience to work for me on a new project. I have received over 200
excellent resumes from people here in LV and several from other cities
wanting to move here. Most of the ones from other cities are unrealistic
about their salary requirements but even the ones who are willing to come
will take a huge cut in salary. Several of the resumes from local residents
have people showing they are out of work or presently working less paying
jobs to survive.
Despite all the warnings, it seems people are still coming here.
Housing costs here in LV are still rising much too fast and I think
inflation is right around the corner. The Feds are threatening to raise
interest rates soon which will hurt first time buyers trying to buy homes.
There are indeed plenty of jobs here, but not GOOD PAYING jobs.
Public schools are simply horrible here in Las Vegas. While luckily I don't
have any need to use them, my friends and neighbors enroll their children in
private schools-at a hefty price.
If you like gambling too much (especially if you are the so called
'nickle/dime slot machine player') or even THINK you may be addicted to
gambling, DO NOT COME TO LIVE IN LAS VEGAS. I see too many people let it
destroy their life. On a bittersweet note, my step sister just made a
killing on some furniture (less than 6 months old) from a lady who gambled
too much on the slots and recently lost her job. Whoever said yard sales
and garage sales are very common is so right. My friend who commutes from
Houston once a month for business stays in a townhouse a few blocks from me.
His boss bought the townhouse to use for corporate guests and meetings, but
my friend just bought furniture for his bedroom when he stays here. The
furniture looks pretty new and also came from others who are selling and
returning back to where they originally came from.
Rob-L, welcome to Las Vegas but I hope you are well prepared for your move
here.
Big Mikey
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Bill T
"Big Mikey" <mike...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have read several of the posts and finally decided it was time to
comment.
>
> I moved here almost a year ago but not with the intentions of looking for
a
> job. IMHO, unless you have a job already waiting for you, or are self
> employed, or are coming here to retire , DO NOT COME TO LIVE IN LAS VEGAS
AT
> THIS TIME.
About 5 years ago, I saw a few reports in the mainstream media (I can't
remember whether they were on TV or paper) about how Vegas is one of the
last places in America to have a middle-class life if you don't have an
education or unique skills, but are willing to work hard and by the rules.
One example was the hotel maid who had her own house and was raising 2
well-behaved kids. Was that all hype, or have things change so much in the
past few years?
Also, how is living in Vegas for someone with a regular 6-figure income
(working) and no kids? (Obviously it's got to be better than being broke,
but I wonder how it stacks up against living in Florida, or Iowa, or Idaho.)
Bill
Steve Harder-Kucera
>
>"Big Mikey" <mike...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I have read several of the posts and finally decided it was time to
>comment.
>>
>> I moved here almost a year ago but not with the intentions of looking for
>a
>> job. IMHO, unless you have a job already waiting for you, or are self
>> employed, or are coming here to retire , DO NOT COME TO LIVE IN LAS VEGAS
>AT
>> THIS TIME.
>.....etc...
>
>
>About 5 years ago, I saw a few reports in the mainstream media (I can't
>remember whether they were on TV or paper) about how Vegas is one of the
>last places in America to have a middle-class life if you don't have an
>education or unique skills, but are willing to work hard and by the rules.
>One example was the hotel maid who had her own house and was raising 2
>well-behaved kids. Was that all hype, or have things change so much in the
>past few years?
Investors are snapping up real estate pretty quickly here, paying cash
in some instances. Many are able to do this by selling their inflated
real estate in other areas. That combined with low interest rates has
caused a recent spike in housing prices (there are other factors as
well). Housing still remains reasonable compared to other areas
though.
The low cost of housing has always been a major factor for wanting to
live here. Time will tell what will happen when the schools suck, the
infrastructure sucks, the summers are too hot AND the houses cost a
bunch. My guess is that some of the older neighborhoods will start to
be improved as it becomes more economical to buy and improve there
rather than just flee to the newest developments on the outskirts.
Even Pahrump is seeing a rise in housing demand. As Vegas grows,
Pahrump is becoming the closest, commutable community that you can
live in and still work in Vegas. It's about an hour away, still
reasonable compared to what some people commute in other cities. You
can still get 1/2 acre and up lots for a reasonable price, but that is
changing quickly as well.
>Also, how is living in Vegas for someone with a regular 6-figure income
>(working) and no kids? (Obviously it's got to be better than being broke,
>but I wonder how it stacks up against living in Florida, or Iowa, or Idaho.)
>
High incomes and no kids helps wherever you live. This is a great town
to be rich and single in, especially if you like women with "What can
you buy for me today?" tattooed on their foreheads.
Vegas continues to be full of opportunity from my perspective, but I'm
self employed and derive my income from a number of sources.
Mutant Bluegrass That Rocks!
http://www.thepickadillos.com
Big Mikey
work. If you bought property here in the last 5 years you are in good shape
and your payments should be reasonable. It does seem to be changing now
very rapidly.
If you are single and already have a STABLE six figure income then you will
do very well here priovided you are prudnet with your spending-especially
gambling.
Bill T
Actually, in my part of the world - San Francisco/Silicon Valley, a family
income of $100K would qualify as struggling middle class (though of course a
single or no-kids couple would be struggling less : ) ). For reasons
puzzling to me, the housing prices here have kept going up despite the
dot.com bust, slow economy, possible BigOne anyday now, etc., etc. A
comfortable middle-middle-class house runs over 800K - and rising.
Sounds like I'm always behind the housing bubble, now that Vegas housing is
also soaring. Maybe Kansas is still available ?
Bill T
billb
cash
> in some instances. Many are able to do this by selling their
inflated
> real estate in other areas. That combined with low interest rates
has
> caused a recent spike in housing prices (there are other factors as
> well). Housing still remains reasonable compared to other areas
> though.
>
Buying a house at a time when people are "snapping up" unbuilt lots
from retail house builders at huge premiums in the hopes of making a
quick killing does not sound like a good idea to me. Sounds like
musical chairs. When the election is over and inflation is 15% and
gasoline is $3.79 a gallon, I expect the music to stop.
I still want them to explain how the housing prices increases can be
exempt from "inflation".
--
billb
Big Mikey
Just my opinion.
Inflation will NOT be 15%.
Gas will NOT be $3.79.
But GW will be reelected.
Time to see someone about all that music you hear.
Big Mikey
"billb" <sevenou...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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billb
>
> Just my opinion.
>
correct. your opinion only.
I get to live where I want and can choose to work or not work if I
want.
what grade did you get in spelling?
--
billb
Big Mikey
doesn't seem to help either. I still type with three fingers. Not trying
to hurt your feelings but you do seem so short sided sometimes.
Try to look at the bigger picture and don't be afraid of risks. You will
lose a few, win a few, but the ride will be fun!
Big Mikey
"billb" <sevenou...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Andrew in Alabama
EVERYTHING to your dumn ass???
>I still type with three fingers.
Technically speaking, thumbs are not fingers.
----
Andrew <-- is it JUNE yet?
"Whatever happens in Unincorporated Clark County stays in
Unincorporated Clark County."
(Steve Harder-Kucera in alt.vacation.las-vegas)
billb
trying
> to hurt your feelings but you do seem so short sided sometimes.
>
what the hell is "short sided" do you mean short sighted?
chucks assessment of you was pretty close to the mark.
normally I'd suggest a remedial reading class, but in your case it's
not likely to do any good. it'd be like teaching calculus to a
horse.
--
billb
Big Mikey
spelling but I choose my words carefully. You fail to look at the other
person's SIDE of view, bill. And while you often fight with me, CTFF just
sits and laughs and pisses up your back. We disagree but I at least debate
you openly and don't backstab you.
If anyone misspells it is Trout-and he does it beautifully. But I never take
anything Trout says too personal although I generally disagree with a lot of
his opinions. I tend to either type too fast (even with three fingers or
three thumbs as Andrew puts it) or don't bother to really work my spell
checker good.
Berman and I often disagree about everything and anything. But I like David
very much, respect his opinions, and find him an intelligent and charming
individual-especially in person. David also gives of himself to Shade Tree
. (And I checked!) David also never hides or ducks an issue, which is less
than I can say a few others. Some of the attacks on Berman last month have
been downright disgusting.
I can't believe someone actually put down Cathe B's looks this week either.
Oh well, trolls are part of the landscape I guess.
Andrew is just, well Andrew. I enjoy my free diet coke when he comes to LV
and listened to his advice about CTFF.
Sometimes I do mispronounce words as I hear them incorrectly. Anyone who
has met me in person learns something about me immediately. But in this
case I did mean "short sided" rather than short sighted. I am sure your
eyesight is fine, bill. It is your brain that has a few short sides
sometimes.
I think your attitude about working is your worst enemy. Frankly, I love to
work and I love what I do. I am not sure you enjoyed working as a dealer
and I am not sure why you still live in Las Vegas. You have also backstabed
me and I still cannot understand why.
Feel free to enlighten me.
Me inglish teacher learned me inglish real good.
Big Mikey
billb" <sevenou...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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VeganVic
rationalization, your usage is incorrect.
flipper
because Las Vegas is my escape. Where would I go if I lived in my
escape? What's left? LA?
--flipper,
Corey
Re: Re: I'm finally moving to Las Vegas!
By: flipper to alt.vacation.las-vegas on Fri May 07 2004 05:48 am
> I thought about moving to Las Vegas, but I don't think it would work
> because Las Vegas is my escape. Where would I go if I lived in my
> escape? What's left? LA?
> --flipper,
>
>
> VeganVic wrote:
> > You should choose them more carefully next time. Despite the lengthy
> > rationalization, your usage is incorrect.
> >
> >
> >>Nope...that was indeed meant to be "short sided". I may have a problem wi
> >>spelling but I choose my words carefully.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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we vegans relax at disneyland.
Matthew
to san diego , much better !
David Berman
> Vegas , like NYC is great to visit , not to live , i am looking to
> move to san diego , much better !
If you're going to engage in such a broad generality, speak for yourself.
Moving to this area (Henderson, actually) has proven to be everything we
hoped, and more. We don't have a single regret about making the move, and
hardly a day goes by when we don't have quiet appreciation of the benefits
of living in what is essentially a huge resort with all that entails, along
with all the amenities that come along with normal suburban living.
--
--Best from David in NV
Rob-L
>Usually, people packup and leave after a year because they could not find a
>job. There may be other reasons such as the summer heat or they got mugged more
>than once a month. Its a good idea to have one years salary tucked away in the
>bank before moving anywhere without a job lined up.
Yeah - I've got a job. I'm pretty sure I will not be one of the 1/3
leaving within a year. I love that people think that their town has
some mystical aura that prevents others from being able to survive
there if they're from other places.
I went from Chicago to LA for a job, lived there for 4 years. I heard
all the crap at that time. "LA is 'different' than Chicago... blah
blah blah"
Moved back to Chicago for yet another job, stayed about 9 years. Now,
I have moved to LV (yes, for yet another job)
I got the same crap about moving to LV. LV isn't that different than
any other town in the US. Except for that 2 miles or so called the
"Strip" this place is no different than any other town I've ever lived
in.
Thanks for the advice,
Rob-L
Pat O'Connell
Rob-L wrote:
>>Usually, people packup and leave after a year because they could not find a
>>job. There may be other reasons such as the summer heat or they got mugged more
>>than once a month. Its a good idea to have one years salary tucked away in the
>>bank before moving anywhere without a job lined up.
Gotta have a job, first. For my technical job, I interviewed first and
was hired.
>
> Yeah - I've got a job. I'm pretty sure I will not be one of the 1/3
> leaving within a year. I love that people think that their town has
> some mystical aura that prevents others from being able to survive
> there if they're from other places.
Usually because of unrealistic expectations (streets paved with gold, etc.).
>...
> Moved back to Chicago for yet another job, stayed about 9 years. Now,
> I have moved to LV (yes, for yet another job)
>
> I got the same crap about moving to LV. LV isn't that different than
> any other town in the US. Except for that 2 miles or so called the
> "Strip" this place is no different than any other town I've ever lived
> in.
Well the 24 hour town thing extends into the rest of the city, and there
are locals casinos. Video poker is in bars, quickie marts, drugstores
and grocery stores...
--
Pat O'Connell
[note munged EMail address]
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints,
Kill nothing but vandals...
Corey
Re: Re: I'm finally moving to Las Vegas!
>
> >Usually, people packup and leave after a year because they could not find a
> >job. There may be other reasons such as the summer heat or they got mugged
> >than once a month. Its a good idea to have one years salary tucked away in
> >bank before moving anywhere without a job lined up.
>
>
> Yeah - I've got a job. I'm pretty sure I will not be one of the 1/3
> leaving within a year. I love that people think that their town has
> some mystical aura that prevents others from being able to survive
> there if they're from other places.
>
> I went from Chicago to LA for a job, lived there for 4 years. I heard
> all the crap at that time. "LA is 'different' than Chicago... blah
> blah blah"
>
> Moved back to Chicago for yet another job, stayed about 9 years. Now,
> I have moved to LV (yes, for yet another job)
>
> I got the same crap about moving to LV. LV isn't that different than
> any other town in the US. Except for that 2 miles or so called the
> "Strip" this place is no different than any other town I've ever lived
> in.
>
> Thanks for the advice,
> Rob-L
>
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and our wonderfull dry heat?
Corey
Pat O'Connell
Corey wrote:
> To: Rob-L
> Re: Re: I'm finally moving to Las Vegas!
> By: Rob-L to alt.vacation.las-vegas on Sat May 15 2004 10:48 am
>
> >
> > >Usually, people packup and leave after a year because they could not find a
> > >job. There may be other reasons such as the summer heat or they got mugged
> > >than once a month. Its a good idea to have one years salary tucked away in
> > >bank before moving anywhere without a job lined up.
> >
> >
> > Yeah - I've got a job. I'm pretty sure I will not be one of the 1/3
...
> >
> > I got the same crap about moving to LV. LV isn't that different than
> > any other town in the US. Except for that 2 miles or so called the
> > "Strip" this place is no different than any other town I've ever lived
> > in.
There are differences--see my other post.
> >
> > Thanks for the advice,
> > Rob-L
> >
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>
> and our wonderful dry heat?
It beats the moist heat in the East. Got used to dry heat in
Albuquerque, but it's not quite as hot as LV.