Multiple Servers On Free Agent
brojack
on Outlook Express is easy, but I'm unable to do the same with Free Agent.
The news providers instruct us to follow Free Agent's FAQ on multiple users
and say that this is the same process for setting-up multiple news servers,
but this is confusing.
How do you install multiple news servers in Free Agent? Once installed, how
to you access each server?
Thanks,
Jack
Craig Kling
"brojack" <bro...@windswept.net> wrote in message
news:719e0afc7b1d08d2...@spamfreenews.com...
A person gave me some instructions on how to do that. Didn't work out.
What I did was to just copy the guts of the thing to a folder with different
name and then make shortcut to the executable in that and carry on just
fine.
Nick Spalding
A standard installation has a C:\Agent folder and within that a Data
folder
For each new server you need to run a separate instance of FA.
Create another folder, say Data2 within Agent.
Copy agent.ini from C:\Agent\Data to C:\Agent\Data2
Create a new shortcut with Target: C:\Agent\Agent.exe
and Start in: C:\Agent\Data2 (or copy your existing one and just
change the Start in: and name).
When you click on the new shortcut you will start the second instance
of Agent with the same options as your original. Go to Options | User
and System... and change the server names to what you require.
Repeat the process for each new server, putting them in Data3, Data4
etc.
--
Nick Spalding
Andrzej Jan Taramina
wrote:
> When you click on the new shortcut you will start the second instance
> of Agent with the same options as your original. Go to Options | User
> and System... and change the server names to what you require.
>
> Repeat the process for each new server, putting them in Data3, Data4
> etc.
Or wait for 1.9 to come out. I gather it is supposed to have support
for multiple news servers built in. I'm waiting for that before going
to all the trouble and inconvenience.
Andrzej Jan Taramina
Chaeron Consulting Corp
Enterprise System Solutions
http://www.chaeron.com
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Nick Spalding
<4nq11ukf1nf7k0hot...@4ax.com>:
> On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:36:15 GMT, Nick Spalding <spal...@iol.ie>
> wrote:
>
> > When you click on the new shortcut you will start the second instance
> > of Agent with the same options as your original. Go to Options | User
> > and System... and change the server names to what you require.
> >
> > Repeat the process for each new server, putting them in Data3, Data4
> > etc.
>
> Or wait for 1.9 to come out. I gather it is supposed to have support
> for multiple news servers built in. I'm waiting for that before going
> to all the trouble and inconvenience.
You will have to wait a bit longer. It will not be in 1.9 whose
primary purpose has been announced as to clean up various ME, NT, XP
etc interactions with a Trash Bin thrown in as a goodie. Multiple
servers will have to wait for 2.x.
--
Nick Spalding
Rev. Cyohtee - O'kōhome Ehohatse
rose up and issued forth:
>On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:36:15 GMT, Nick Spalding <spal...@iol.ie>
>wrote:
>
>> When you click on the new shortcut you will start the second instance
>> of Agent with the same options as your original. Go to Options | User
>> and System... and change the server names to what you require.
>>
>> Repeat the process for each new server, putting them in Data3, Data4
>> etc.
>
>Or wait for 1.9 to come out. I gather it is supposed to have support
>for multiple news servers built in. I'm waiting for that before going
>to all the trouble and inconvenience.
>
No, 1.9 will not have that feature. The only thing 1.9 will have is
fixes to some bugs and the trashcan feature. There is a possibility
that 2.0 will have multiple server support, but there has been no
official declaration of what new features will be in 2.0 as of yet.
--
Cyo cyo...@ucan.foad.org
http://www.barbarian.org/~cyohtee http://www.barbarian.org
"Only an idiot fights a war on two fronts. Only the heir to the throne of
the kingdom of idiot would fight a war on twelve fronts." - Londo Molari
Andrzej Jan Taramina
<cyo...@enteract.com> wrote:
> No, 1.9 will not have that feature. The only thing 1.9 will have is
> fixes to some bugs and the trashcan feature. There is a possibility
> that 2.0 will have multiple server support, but there has been no
> official declaration of what new features will be in 2.0 as of yet.
Then I don't see much point in 1.9, and fail to see why it is running
so late, since it has very little in it.
Andrzej Jan Taramina
wrote:
> You will have to wait a bit longer. It will not be in 1.9 whose
> primary purpose has been announced as to clean up various ME, NT, XP
> etc interactions with a Trash Bin thrown in as a goodie. Multiple
> servers will have to wait for 2.x.
Shit! That is not good news. Even Netscape 4.xx supports multiple
news servers.
Waaaa! Not a happy camper...
Don Aitken
<and...@chaeron.spamicide.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:36:15 GMT, Nick Spalding <spal...@iol.ie>
>wrote:
>
>> When you click on the new shortcut you will start the second instance
>> of Agent with the same options as your original. Go to Options | User
>> and System... and change the server names to what you require.
>>
>> Repeat the process for each new server, putting them in Data3, Data4
>> etc.
>
>Or wait for 1.9 to come out. I gather it is supposed to have support
>for multiple news servers built in. I'm waiting for that before going
>to all the trouble and inconvenience.
>
Nope, that's 2.0, so you're talking about at least a year.
--
Don Aitken
Rev. Cyohtee - O'kōhome Ehohatse
rose up and issued forth:
>On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 12:34:55 -0600, Rev. Cyohtee - O'kōhome Ehohatse
It is "running late" because, unlike Micro$loth, they believe in
actually testing their software releases before releasing them, and
not just taking the "It compiled! Ship it!" attitude. If there had
been no problems with the 1.9 release that needed further work, it
would have been out of beta by now, but there were obviously more
problems with it since it is not out yet.
The Worm: 'Ello.
Sarah: Did you say...hello?
The Worm: No, I said "'ello," but that's close enough.
brojack
"Nick Spalding" <spal...@iol.ie> wrote in message
news:2u111uc5aakood5kr...@4ax.com...
Please forgive my ignorance. There's a folder C:\ProgramFiles\Agent\Data
containing my old NNTP news.supernews.com which uses the same name for its
news server. Life was so simple.
The *new* NNTP server is news.cis.dfn.de and its actual servers are
mega.bargainfeeds.com and news.bargainfeeds.com. Are you saying to
configure FA three times, each time entering one of the names above, and
then creating icons for click on convenience? What is "Target"?
Thanks,
Jack
Ralph Fox
<67b132fd2ef44e32...@spamfreenews.com>, brojack wrote:
> The *new* NNTP server is news.cis.dfn.de and its actual servers are
> mega.bargainfeeds.com and news.bargainfeeds.com. Are you saying to
> configure FA three times, each time entering one of the names above, and
> then creating icons for click on convenience?
Once for each server that you wish to set up in Free Agent at
Options -> General Preferences -> System
News Server: [___________________]
> What is "Target"?
One of the shortcut properties that you can set.
Right-click on your Agent shortcut, select "Properties",
then select the "Shortcut" tab.
The first two fields that you can change are called "Target:"
and "Start in:", respectively.
Cheers,
Ralph
--
Please reply to the newsgroup. That is why it exists.
brojack
"Ralph Fox" <ralphf...@xtraxtra.coco.nznz.undo-echo.invalid> wrote in
message news:khs21u0lngf0ll6nk...@news.tsnz.net...
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 18:10:26 -0500, in article
> <67b132fd2ef44e32...@spamfreenews.com>, brojack wrote:
>
> > The *new* NNTP server is news.cis.dfn.de and its actual servers are
> > mega.bargainfeeds.com and news.bargainfeeds.com. Are you saying to
> > configure FA three times, each time entering one of the names above, and
> > then creating icons for click on convenience?
>
> Once for each server that you wish to set up in Free Agent at
>
> Options -> General Preferences -> System
> News Server: [___________________]
>
>
> > What is "Target"?
>
> One of the shortcut properties that you can set.
>
> Right-click on your Agent shortcut, select "Properties",
> then select the "Shortcut" tab.
Where is the Agent short-cut?
Don Aitken
wrote:
>
>"Ralph Fox" <ralphf...@xtraxtra.coco.nznz.undo-echo.invalid> wrote in
>message news:khs21u0lngf0ll6nk...@news.tsnz.net...
>> On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 18:10:26 -0500, in article
>> <67b132fd2ef44e32...@spamfreenews.com>, brojack wrote:
>>
>> > The *new* NNTP server is news.cis.dfn.de and its actual servers are
>> > mega.bargainfeeds.com and news.bargainfeeds.com. Are you saying to
>> > configure FA three times, each time entering one of the names above, and
>> > then creating icons for click on convenience?
>>
>> Once for each server that you wish to set up in Free Agent at
>>
>> Options -> General Preferences -> System
>> News Server: [___________________]
>>
>>
>> > What is "Target"?
>>
>> One of the shortcut properties that you can set.
>>
>> Right-click on your Agent shortcut, select "Properties",
>> then select the "Shortcut" tab.
>
>Where is the Agent short-cut?
>
It should be on your desktop. If it isn't there, right-click on
agent.exe, select "Create Shortcut", and move the result to the
desktop.
--
Don Aitken
Ralph Fox
<0e06279563924032...@spamfreenews.com>, brojack wrote:
> "Ralph Fox" <ralphf...@xtraxtra.coco.nznz.undo-echo.invalid> wrote in
> message news:khs21u0lngf0ll6nk...@news.tsnz.net...
> > On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 18:10:26 -0500, in article
> > <67b132fd2ef44e32...@spamfreenews.com>, brojack wrote:
...snip...
> > > What is "Target"?
> >
> > One of the shortcut properties that you can set.
> >
> > Right-click on your Agent shortcut, select "Properties",
> > then select the "Shortcut" tab.
>
> Where is the Agent short-cut?
I am guessing that you can start Agent from your Windows 98 Start menu.
Look here.
1. In Windows 98, go to
Start -> Settings -> Taskbar & Start Menu
A dialog box "Taskbar Properties" will pop up.
2. Select the "Start menu Programs" tab.
3. Click on the "Advanced" button.
A Windows Explorer window will appear.
4. In this Windows Explorer window, open up the folders
Start Menu\Programs
and
Start Menu\Programs\Forte Agent
Inside the "Forte Agent" folder, you will find your Agent shortcut.
Your Agent shortcut will appear with the Agent icon, but also having
a little shortcut arrow in the bottom left corner.
You might also have an Agent shortcut on your Windows Desktop.
If you do, it will be visible when you have minimized or closed
all running applications.
Don Kirkman
wrote in article <u2c21uctrgof16j24...@4ax.com>:
>Out of the ether Andrzej Jan Taramina <and...@chaeron.spamicide.com>
>rose up and issued forth:
>>On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 12:34:55 -0600, Rev. Cyohtee - O'kōhome Ehohatse
>><cyo...@enteract.com> wrote:
>>> No, 1.9 will not have that feature. The only thing 1.9 will have is
>>> fixes to some bugs and the trashcan feature. There is a possibility
>>> that 2.0 will have multiple server support, but there has been no
>>> official declaration of what new features will be in 2.0 as of yet.
>>Then I don't see much point in 1.9, and fail to see why it is running
>>so late, since it has very little in it.
>It is "running late" because, unlike Micro$loth, they believe in
>actually testing their software releases before releasing them, and
>not just taking the "It compiled! Ship it!" attitude. If there had
>been no problems with the 1.9 release that needed further work, it
>would have been out of beta by now, but there were obviously more
>problems with it since it is not out yet.
And much of the delay is probably because of the need to work around the
various WinXP issues that seem to be cropping up across Inet land.
--
Don
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http://www.forteinc.com/store/getagent.htm
brojack
"Ralph Fox" wrote
> You might also have an Agent shortcut on your Windows Desktop.
> If you do, it will be visible when you have minimized or closed
> all running applications.
> Cheers,
> Ralph
Are you referring to the Agent icons in the Start menu? In other words,
Start - Programs - Forte Agent - and then 4 icons for
agent help, agent, order form, and read me. Are you saying there will be
extra icons for the multiple news servers furnished by the new news
provider?
Thanks,
Jack
Ralph Fox
<f170d2e99c348a82...@spamfreenews.com>, brojack wrote:
> Are you referring to the Agent icons in the Start menu?
Yes.
> In other words,
> Start - Programs - Forte Agent - and then 4 icons for
> agent help, agent, order form, and read me.
Yes, but -- I am referring only to the the "Agent" icon there.
> Are you saying there will be
> extra icons for the multiple news servers furnished by the new news
> provider?
You will need an extra "Agent" icon for each new news server.
You do not need extra "Agent Help", "Order form", or "Readme" icons.
BTW, you may want to give your extra "Agent" icon
a name like "Agent - news.cis.dfn.de".
Don Aitken
wrote:
previous post, i.e. by right-clicking on agent.exe, and selecting
"Create Shortcut". In this case you need to move the resulting file to
Windows/Start Menu/Programs/Forte Agent . Most people find it more
convenient to have shortcuts for frequently used applications on the
Desktop, though. You can have also have them in both places if you
want.
--
Don Aitken
Andrzej Jan Taramina
wrote:
> And much of the delay is probably because of the need to work around the
> various WinXP issues that seem to be cropping up across Inet land.
Re-install Win2K or NT. End of problems! ;-)
Anyone that goes with a first release of a new MS OS is not very smart
IMNSHO.
I would have rather hand multiple news server support first.
Andrzej Jan Taramina
wrote:
> A standard installation has a C:\Agent folder and within that a Data
> folder
>
> For each new server you need to run a separate instance of FA.
>
> Create another folder, say Data2 within Agent.
>
> Copy agent.ini from C:\Agent\Data to C:\Agent\Data2
>
> Create a new shortcut with Target: C:\Agent\Agent.exe
> and Start in: C:\Agent\Data2 (or copy your existing one and just
> change the Start in: and name).
You need to do more than that. This will NOT work...it will overwrite
your original settings and NOT give you two separate servers.
To find out how to really do this, go to Help/Search for Help on in
Agent and enter the phrase "Multiple server configuration".
You've been warned!
Don Kirkman
article <dhva1u4cd605k0ji5...@4ax.com>:
>On Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:36:15 GMT, Nick Spalding <spal...@iol.ie>
>wrote:
>> A standard installation has a C:\Agent folder and within that a Data
>> folder
>> For each new server you need to run a separate instance of FA.
>> Create another folder, say Data2 within Agent.
>> Copy agent.ini from C:\Agent\Data to C:\Agent\Data2
>> Create a new shortcut with Target: C:\Agent\Agent.exe
>> and Start in: C:\Agent\Data2 (or copy your existing one and just
>> change the Start in: and name).
>You need to do more than that. This will NOT work...it will overwrite
>your original settings and NOT give you two separate servers.
>To find out how to really do this, go to Help/Search for Help on in
>Agent and enter the phrase "Multiple server configuration".
>You've been warned!
Have you actually tried this yourself? Nick has been around Agent and
this newsgroup for a lot of years, and I can't see anything wrong in the
way he describes the process; unless I'm missing something that's the
way I've always done it except that I've usually copied the whole old
data folder to the new one instead of only the INI file. Can you be
more specific about what you think the problem is?
Andrzej Jan Taramina
wrote:
> Have you actually tried this yourself? Nick has been around Agent and
> this newsgroup for a lot of years, and I can't see anything wrong in the
> way he describes the process; unless I'm missing something that's the
> way I've always done it except that I've usually copied the whole old
> data folder to the new one instead of only the INI file. Can you be
> more specific about what you think the problem is?
I tried it exactly as Nick suggested (on a Win2K SP2 system). Started
agent in a new data directory....but with agent executable still in
the original place.
It overwrote all my settings, subscriptions and such when I changed
the values for the second version. Had to restore from tape to get my
original settings back.
Following the Agent instructions given in the help files (as I had
noted) worked fine....and now I can access two different news servers.
Furthermore, I can run two copies of agent at the same time doing
this.
Don Kirkman
>On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:42:50 -0800, Don Kirkman <new...@covad.net>
>wrote:
>> Have you actually tried this yourself? Nick has been around Agent and
>> this newsgroup for a lot of years, and I can't see anything wrong in the
>> way he describes the process; unless I'm missing something that's the
>> way I've always done it except that I've usually copied the whole old
>> data folder to the new one instead of only the INI file. Can you be
>> more specific about what you think the problem is?
>I tried it exactly as Nick suggested (on a Win2K SP2 system). Started
>agent in a new data directory....but with agent executable still in
>the original place.
>It overwrote all my settings, subscriptions and such when I changed
>the values for the second version. Had to restore from tape to get my
>original settings back.
>Following the Agent instructions given in the help files (as I had
>noted) worked fine....and now I can access two different news servers.
>Furthermore, I can run two copies of agent at the same time doing
>this.
I don't know what went wrong for you, but in several years of doing this
I've never had a secondary instance get messed up. If you're working in
your new data folder there's doesn't seem to be any logical way that
original settings would be overwritten. Did you put a copy of your
working INI file in the second folder, or did you perhaps put an old or
default (unconfigured) copy there?
Were your settings wiped out in the original data folder also? If so,
that may be a clue.
Andrzej Jan Taramina
wrote:
> I don't know what went wrong for you, but in several years of doing this
> I've never had a secondary instance get messed up. If you're working in
> your new data folder there's doesn't seem to be any logical way that
> original settings would be overwritten. Did you put a copy of your
> working INI file in the second folder, or did you perhaps put an old or
> default (unconfigured) copy there?
I did copy over the ini file....would that have caused the problem?
> Were your settings wiped out in the original data folder also? If so,
> that may be a clue.
Yup...both changed together.
In any case, it all works fine now...and having a totally separate
(and renamed) .exe file lets me run two copies of agent at once.
Nick Spalding
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:44:01 -0500, Andrzej Jan Taramina
> <and...@chaeron.spamicide.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:42:50 -0800, Don Kirkman <new...@covad.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Have you actually tried this yourself? Nick has been around Agent and
> >> this newsgroup for a lot of years, and I can't see anything wrong in the
> >> way he describes the process; unless I'm missing something that's the
> >> way I've always done it except that I've usually copied the whole old
> >> data folder to the new one instead of only the INI file. Can you be
> >> more specific about what you think the problem is?
> >
> >I tried it exactly as Nick suggested (on a Win2K SP2 system). Started
> >agent in a new data directory....but with agent executable still in
> >the original place.
> >
> >It overwrote all my settings, subscriptions and such when I changed
> >the values for the second version. Had to restore from tape to get my
> >original settings back.
> >
> >Following the Agent instructions given in the help files (as I had
> >noted) worked fine....and now I can access two different news servers.
> >Furthermore, I can run two copies of agent at the same time doing
> >this.
> I doubt if it's Win2k so it HAS to be your 'Start In' folder
> is not properly identified in the shortcut.
Exactly. He either ignored or misapplied:
"Create a new shortcut with Target: C:\Agent\Agent.exe
and Start in: C:\Agent\Data2 (or copy your existing one and just
change the Start in: and name)."
--
Nick Spalding
Andrzej Jan Taramina
wrote:
> Exactly. He either ignored or misapplied:
>
> "Create a new shortcut with Target: C:\Agent\Agent.exe
> and Start in: C:\Agent\Data2 (or copy your existing one and just
> change the Start in: and name)."
Neither. I did it exactly as documented. And it did not work.
Could be that copying the .ini file wrecked things, but I'm not about
to test it now since the instructions given with Agent did the trick.