> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:56:14 +0000, h...@h-gee.co.uk wrote:
> >> >> Timothy released version CPP 2.4 with my fixes in it. You have your
> >> >> 32000 lines for now. I'm still working on the other fix and we will
> >> >> probably release a 2.5 with 64000 lines limit soon. :)
> >> >Have you fixed the problem with setting the newsgroups to post to in the first setup
> >> >screen but defaulting back to all newsgroups when you go to make "checksums".
> >> >And where can it be downloaded from?
> >> I was unaware there was a problem with setting newsgroups. I will test
> >> for that.
> >YES - if you click the ADD FILES icon on the tool bar you get options to set newsgroups -
> >ALL are ticked or checked by default - bad idea and shouldn't be "all by default"
> >After one has checked the title is Ok and then when and IF you decide to make PAR or PAR2
> >repair files you click "CHECKSUMS".
> >Once you get to the bit where you set the parts and number of blocks most people would
> >think "Ok I have already set the NG I want to post to but if you now go to the NEWSGROUP
> >tab from the checksum tab you will see that once again ALL listed NG are checked.
> >In my case I have 6 listed inc 2 adult binary groups and I wouldn't want to post personal
> >holiday pictures/movies or motor race meeting movies to an ADULT group or an ADULT flavour
> >movie to a family movie group????
> >Should only be ONE chance to set NG selection and LAST one used could be remembered of
> >none at all but not default to all.
> Are you sure you are using Camel PowerPost version 2.4 ENGLISH?
> I have only made changes to the English version, not the Dutch so I
> cannot answer for versions other than that. (e.g., PowerPost2000 or
> yEncPP)
> I cannot duplicate that behavior at all. Initial newsgroups in the Add
> Files dialog are all UNCHECKED. I have to check the ones I want and
> they are remembered from dialog to dialog.
> Going from the add files dialog to the Generate par2 dialog the
> newsgroups that were selected in the Add files dialog are checked in
> the Generate dialog.
> Make sure your settings.ini file doesn't have something set from
> another version of PP.
> CPP 2.4 doesn't use any registry settings.
> I did detect a dialog handling problem in the Generate dialog but it
> only appears in my debug version built with VS2010 and that version is
> not public yet. It will be fixed before release.
> There are some known problems with the par2 features so you might want
> to follow Isis' technique and avoid the use of it in CPP and use
> QuikPar instead.
Sorry I thought we were still talking about Powerpost GB Yenc etc.
Sir Hugh of Bognor
-- I used to be an Egotistical Megalomaniac - but now I'm just perfect!
Thought I'd change the thread title to something more recognizable.
I downloaded the latest version and set the max number of lines to 10000 and it crashed.
Restarted back to default and did a test post of still in alt.binaries.erotica.spanking
and it worked Ok
Reset max lines to 10000 and again It worked Ok.
Had to hunt a bit to find how to delete NG but that's Ok but would be better if add and
remove in the same window as to choose which to post to.
Icons are of the modern theme but bit too big and the small loses half the icon picture -
any chance of using the original icons or are those copyright?
I know - don't nag - must fit in with toy town windows7 and windows phones and other toy
town stuff.
> >> On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:56:14 +0000, h...@h-gee.co.uk wrote:
> >> >> Timothy released version CPP 2.4 with my fixes in it. You have your
> >> >> 32000 lines for now. I'm still working on the other fix and we will
> >> >> probably release a 2.5 with 64000 lines limit soon. :)
> >> >Have you fixed the problem with setting the newsgroups to post to in the first setup
> >> >screen but defaulting back to all newsgroups when you go to make "checksums".
> >> >And where can it be downloaded from?
> >> I was unaware there was a problem with setting newsgroups. I will test
> >> for that.
> >YES - if you click the ADD FILES icon on the tool bar you get options to set newsgroups -
> >ALL are ticked or checked by default - bad idea and shouldn't be "all by default"
> >After one has checked the title is Ok and then when and IF you decide to make PAR or PAR2
> >repair files you click "CHECKSUMS".
> >Once you get to the bit where you set the parts and number of blocks most people would
> >think "Ok I have already set the NG I want to post to but if you now go to the NEWSGROUP
> >tab from the checksum tab you will see that once again ALL listed NG are checked.
> >In my case I have 6 listed inc 2 adult binary groups and I wouldn't want to post personal
> >holiday pictures/movies or motor race meeting movies to an ADULT group or an ADULT flavour
> >movie to a family movie group????
> >Should only be ONE chance to set NG selection and LAST one used could be remembered of
> >none at all but not default to all.
> Are you sure you are using Camel PowerPost version 2.4 ENGLISH?
> I have only made changes to the English version, not the Dutch so I
> cannot answer for versions other than that. (e.g., PowerPost2000 or
> yEncPP)
> I cannot duplicate that behavior at all. Initial newsgroups in the Add
> Files dialog are all UNCHECKED. I have to check the ones I want and
> they are remembered from dialog to dialog.
> Going from the add files dialog to the Generate par2 dialog the
> newsgroups that were selected in the Add files dialog are checked in
> the Generate dialog.
> Make sure your settings.ini file doesn't have something set from
> another version of PP.
> CPP 2.4 doesn't use any registry settings.
> I did detect a dialog handling problem in the Generate dialog but it
> only appears in my debug version built with VS2010 and that version is
> not public yet. It will be fixed before release.
> There are some known problems with the par2 features so you might want
> to follow Isis' technique and avoid the use of it in CPP and use
> QuikPar instead.
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:38:19 +1300, Ralph Fox <-rf-...@-.invalid>
wrote:
>On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 15:26:15 +0000, in message <rn1mg7hbrhb2cc8ag6d1c33ve6ja45n...@4ax.com> >Marc Wilson wrote:
>> Is it a 32bit/64bit issue? Are you running Enterprise X64 or 32?
>The box in question is running 32-bit Enterprise.
>I'll try and check if it is a 32bit/64bit issue. 64-bit Win7 does not >run 16-bit executables.
Mine is Win7 Pro 64-bit. It simply refused to install VS6 or any of
the tools. I didn't think VS 6.0 was 16-bit so it's not that, I
believe most of the tools and the IDE are 32-bit. IIRC the dialog box
said "There are known compatibility issues with this application, it
cannot be installed." or words to that effect.
>Sorry I thought we were still talking about Powerpost GB Yenc etc.
NP, you had me wondering. Try the CPP app, it's identical for the most
part and the majority of the code is the same and in my experience and
from what Isis is telling us it's more evolved than the other PP
clones.
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 08:58:42 -0800, in message <f07mg7da96tt8bsn3824fn19klfgt0h...@4ax.com>
Geoff wrote:
> Mine is Win7 Pro 64-bit. It simply refused to install VS6 or any of
> the tools. I didn't think VS 6.0 was 16-bit so it's not that, I
> believe most of the tools and the IDE are 32-bit.
Some old 32-bit apps had 16-bit programs to do the installation. I'll try to check if that applies here.
> IIRC the dialog box
> said "There are known compatibility issues with this application, it
> cannot be installed." or words to that effect.
I understand there might have been a "compatibility" warning, but
no "cannot be installed".
>Mine is Win7 Pro 64-bit. It simply refused to install VS6 or any of
>the tools. I didn't think VS 6.0 was 16-bit so it's not that, I
>believe most of the tools and the IDE are 32-bit. IIRC the dialog box
>said "There are known compatibility issues with this application, it
>cannot be installed." or words to that effect.
Geoff wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:38:19 +1300, Ralph Fox <-rf-...@-.invalid>
> wrote:
> >On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 15:26:15 +0000, in message <rn1mg7hbrhb2cc8ag6d1c33ve6ja45n...@4ax.com> > >Marc Wilson wrote:
> >> Is it a 32bit/64bit issue? Are you running Enterprise X64 or 32?
> >The box in question is running 32-bit Enterprise.
> >I'll try and check if it is a 32bit/64bit issue. 64-bit Win7 does not > >run 16-bit executables.
> Mine is Win7 Pro 64-bit. It simply refused to install VS6 or any of
> the tools. I didn't think VS 6.0 was 16-bit so it's not that, I
> believe most of the tools and the IDE are 32-bit.
A. The advice to install on (32-bit) Win7 is:
Right click on setup.exe and choose "Run as Administrator".
Do not use the autorun / installation wizard.
B. The VS6 setup.exe program is 16-bit, even though the VS6 tools and IDE are 32-bit.
So the VS6 setup.exe program will not run on 64-bit Windows.
C. setup.exe appears to copy the contents of X86\SETUP to C:\~MSSETUP.T\TMP.T,
and then run ACMSETUP.EXE (which is 32-bit). I do not know whether doing
this might allow you to install on a 64-bit OS. There is also an additional
file in C:\~MSSETUP.T\TMP.T which looks like a cleanup script.
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 13:51:39 -0600, Isis <isis55...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>>But it is definitely more than a worthless teaser, and for some folks
>>may be all they ever need. IMHO, it's excellent, for a "freebie".
>That has always been MS's problem. Depending upon your needs, the Express versions
>may satisfy. Too many were satisfied with Outlook Express, which didn't result in
>many sales for Outlook. Result? No more OE.
Actually I've been using Windows Live Mail (which is very OE-ish)
since I went with Win 7 quite satisfactorily - it's a free download
but is not included in the Win 7 install the way OE previously was
with previous Windows versions.
On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:11:32 -0800, The Horny Goat wrote:
> Actually I've been using Windows Live Mail (which is very OE-ish)
> since I went with Win 7 quite satisfactorily - it's a free download
> but is not included in the Win 7 install the way OE previously was
> with previous Windows versions.
The latest version of WLM doesn't use quote markers, so it's not really
like OE; it's *worse*.
[Default] On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:11:32 -0800, The Horny Goat
<lcra...@home.ca> declared to all and sundry:
>On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 13:51:39 -0600, Isis <isis55...@hotpop.com> wrote:
>>>But it is definitely more than a worthless teaser, and for some folks
>>>may be all they ever need. IMHO, it's excellent, for a "freebie".
>>That has always been MS's problem. Depending upon your needs, the Express versions
>>may satisfy. Too many were satisfied with Outlook Express, which didn't result in
>>many sales for Outlook. Result? No more OE.
>Actually I've been using Windows Live Mail (which is very OE-ish)
>since I went with Win 7 quite satisfactorily - it's a free download
>but is not included in the Win 7 install the way OE previously was
>with previous Windows versions.
Two prolific posters in another ng use WLM and it's a pain in the arse
to follow a thread once they get involved.
One of them sometimes inserts START and END to signify where his
comment starts and finishes, but there is no way to tell exactly who
or what he's responding to without going back and reading the previous
post.
The other guy simply leaves out the text of the previous message and
starts from scratch. Both of them have been informed of the
workaround, but refuse to employ it.
<g...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Two prolific posters in another ng use WLM and it's a pain in the arse
> to follow a thread once they get involved.
> One of them sometimes inserts START and END to signify where his
> comment starts and finishes, but there is no way to tell exactly who
> or what he's responding to without going back and reading the previous
> post.
> The other guy simply leaves out the text of the previous message and
> starts from scratch. Both of them have been informed of the
> workaround, but refuse to employ it.
> Both are idiots.
With a very occasional exception, I simply killfile anyone who uses
Windows Live Mail.
>> The latest version of WLM doesn't use quote markers, so it's not really
>> like OE; it's *worse*.
> What does it do. Rely on colour instead?
When WLM posts a reply, WLM does nothing to show what is quoted and what is new text. If you are reading a plain text reply posted with WLM, there is no colouring and no quote markers. It can be a right royal mess.
ISTM Microsoft's idea is to top-post above the introduction string.
Then, what is quoted is whatever is below the introduction string.
>>> The latest version of WLM doesn't use quote markers, so it's not really
>>> like OE; it's *worse*.
>> What does it do. Rely on colour instead?
>When WLM posts a reply, WLM does nothing to show what is quoted and what >is new text. If you are reading a plain text reply posted with WLM, there >is no colouring and no quote markers. It can be a right royal mess.
>ISTM Microsoft's idea is to top-post above the introduction string.
>Then, what is quoted is whatever is below the introduction string.
Another implementer who has never used or even been aware of NNTP.
Straight from a web only university environment to Microsoft.
Steve
-- Neural network software applications, help and support.
>On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:38:31 +1300, Nicetameetya
><g...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Two prolific posters in another ng use WLM and it's a pain in the arse
>> to follow a thread once they get involved.
>> One of them sometimes inserts START and END to signify where his
>> comment starts and finishes, but there is no way to tell exactly who
>> or what he's responding to without going back and reading the previous
>> post.
>> The other guy simply leaves out the text of the previous message and
>> starts from scratch. Both of them have been informed of the
>> workaround, but refuse to employ it.
>> Both are idiots.
>With a very occasional exception, I simply killfile anyone who uses
>Windows Live Mail.
That's what I have started doing.
Steve
-- Neural network software applications, help and support.
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:38:31 +1300, Nicetameetya
<g...@invalid.invalid> wrote Re Re: Alternatives to Forte Agent?:
>One of them sometimes inserts START and END to signify where his
>comment starts and finishes, but there is no way to tell exactly who
>or what he's responding to without going back and reading the previous
>post.
>The other guy simply leaves out the text of the previous message and
>starts from scratch. Both of them have been informed of the
>workaround, but refuse to employ it.
>Both are idiots.
They should be in your kill file.
-- Work is the curse of the drinking class.
> >>> The latest version of WLM doesn't use quote markers, so it's not really
> >>> like OE; it's *worse*.
> >> What does it do. Rely on colour instead?
> >When WLM posts a reply, WLM does nothing to show what is quoted and what > >is new text. If you are reading a plain text reply posted with WLM, there > >is no colouring and no quote markers. It can be a right royal mess.
> >ISTM Microsoft's idea is to top-post above the introduction string.
> >Then, what is quoted is whatever is below the introduction string.
> Another implementer who has never used or even been aware of NNTP.
> Straight from a web only university environment to Microsoft.
I suspect it might have been policy direction at MS, not an implementer's choice. The 2009 version of WLM inserted the quote markers correctly; the 2010 version did not insert them.
> >On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:11:32 -0800, The Horny Goat wrote:
> >> Actually I've been using Windows Live Mail (which is very OE-ish)
> >> since I went with Win 7 quite satisfactorily - it's a free download
> >> but is not included in the Win 7 install the way OE previously was
> >> with previous Windows versions.
I must confess to using WLM but for one thing only: To right-click on
a file so that I can email it to a client. That's the ONE thing which
WLM does right and Forte Agent can't or won't.
Yes, I'm still using WLM; but it's Forte's fault...
<b...@anodyne.nul.which.is.quite.invalid> wrote:
> > >On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:11:32 -0800, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > >> Actually I've been using Windows Live Mail (which is very OE-ish)
> > >> since I went with Win 7 quite satisfactorily - it's a free download
> > >> but is not included in the Win 7 install the way OE previously was
> > >> with previous Windows versions.
> I must confess to using WLM but for one thing only: To right-click on
> a file so that I can email it to a client. That's the ONE thing which
> WLM does right and Forte Agent can't or won't.
> Yes, I'm still using WLM; but it's Forte's fault...
I'm late to this thread, so this has likely been suggested before.
Tecknomage <teckn...@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote:
>The best alternative to Agent is Thunderbird, eMail + Newsreader
>client, AND *free* from Mozilla.
>https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/
>It works very much like Agent.
Not for binaries it doesn't. Agent automatically combines and decodes
binary posts, you do nothing but look at what was sent. TB doesn't do
that, you have to use a 3rd party gizmo to do it (I think).
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 09:42:06 +0200, in message <k6l1j7l3cup6llkg7k4bfqgs2fmt0un...@4ax.com>
Bob O'Dyne wrote:
> > >On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:11:32 -0800, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > >> Actually I've been using Windows Live Mail (which is very OE-ish)
> > >> since I went with Win 7 quite satisfactorily - it's a free download
> > >> but is not included in the Win 7 install the way OE previously was
> > >> with previous Windows versions.
> I must confess to using WLM but for one thing only: To right-click on
> a file so that I can email it to a client. That's the ONE thing which
> WLM does right and Forte Agent can't or won't.
"Agent SendTo" lets you right-click on a file in Windows Explorer and email it using Agent.
Catch is, "Agent SendTo" v.1.7 works with Agent 4 but not with Agent 6.
Now you just need to find a Mr Somebody Else who will update "Agent SendTo" to work with Agent 6.
> Not for binaries it doesn't. Agent automatically combines and decodes
> binary posts, you do nothing but look at what was sent. TB doesn't do
> that, you have to use a 3rd party gizmo to do it (I think).
Hang on a mo!
I rarely use T-bird for mail or anything else for that matter as it's sitting on the
machine that I run my FTP server on.
However.........
I do use Firefox which is also a Mozilla offering and one has to have many "add-in" 3rd
party gizmos as you call them to make it VERY useable as opposed to being just Ok.
Things such as favorites or favourites in a auto hide side pane. 2 windows open on in the
side bar and one main tab.
KEE PASS for password keeping and auto-fill.
Just as M$ IE4,5,6,7,8,9 had plug-in things written for it - Symantec's Password Manager
was good but won't work with Firefox or Google Chrome (Ugh).
I just wish that the guys at Forté could give AGENT real HTML email capabilities as in
T-Bird and Outlook.
Sir Hugh of Bognor
-- I used to be an Egotistical Megalomaniac - but now I'm just perfect!
>> What I hate about Yahoo Groups is that the reply subject isn't
>> Subject: Re: [Groupname] Original Subject
>> but rather
>> Subject: [Groupname] Re: Original Subject
>> Doesn't sort worth a damn.
> Maybe Ralph can/will clarify but I am on at least 20 Yahoogroups, all
> SIG splinters from an original private server Mailing List and, in the
> very same groups I get replies either way.
> This leads me to believe that it has nothing to do with Yahoogroups but
> the eMail client used.
I am no longer on any active Yahoo groups, but I recall having seen it both ways.
My original guess was that this depended on whether the person replied using the Yahoo Groups web interface, or whether they used an email program to reply to the mailing list. I can't readily check this both
ways; the very few saved replies which I still have are Subject: Re: [Groupname] Original Subject
and were sent using an email program to reply to the Yahoo mailing list.
