Any idea why the APN server is stalling? I noticed it starting a couple of weeks ago. Seems to be getting a bit worse also. I retrieve my headers OK, but once I start D/L bodies, I get a few, then everything stops dead. To get things going again, I have to close Agent, and then request the bodies again. I'll get a few message bodies, then the server seems to stall again. Very frustrating. It affects binaries & text groups. My net connection is good, since I can use my browser without a problem while APN is stalled. Agent 4.32
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:31:36 -0800, QX <nom...@nospam.com> wrote: >Any idea why the APN server is stalling? >I noticed it starting a couple of weeks ago. Seems to be getting >a bit worse also. >I retrieve my headers OK, but once I start D/L bodies, >I get a few, then everything stops dead. >To get things going again, I have to close Agent, and then >request the bodies again. I'll get a few message bodies, then the >server seems to stall again. Very frustrating. It affects binaries & >text groups. >My net connection is good, since I can use my browser without a >problem while APN is stalled. >Agent 4.32
It could be a load problem at the server (APN resells EasyNews).
It could also be a bottleneck somewhere between your machine and the news server that doesn't affect browsing to other sites (that may not use the route with the bottleneck).
If it's a network problem, one tool (among several, of course) that you can use is http://www.pingplotter.com/. They have a free version that gives you a snapshot of the ping latency to a target machine as well as an inexpensive licensed version that includes plots of the routes over time.
FWIW, I'm not seeing any particular issues with APN at this time. There was a period several weeks ago when things were a bit bumpy but it's clean now, here.
[Default] On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:31:36 -0800, QX <nom...@nospam.com> declared to all and sundry:
>Any idea why the APN server is stalling? >I noticed it starting a couple of weeks ago. Seems to be getting >a bit worse also. >I retrieve my headers OK, but once I start D/L bodies, >I get a few, then everything stops dead. >To get things going again, I have to close Agent, and then >request the bodies again. I'll get a few message bodies, then the >server seems to stall again. Very frustrating. It affects binaries & >text groups. >My net connection is good, since I can use my browser without a >problem while APN is stalled. >Agent 4.32
>TIA
It's part of the ongoing problems APN has been experiencing since they hooked up with Easynews. It's also the reason I dumped APN after being with them for years. All Forté will tell you is: "Sorry. We're working on it." After hearing that long enough you'll probably dump them too.
>[Default] On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:31:36 -0800, QX <nom...@nospam.com> >declared to all and sundry:
>>Any idea why the APN server is stalling? >>I noticed it starting a couple of weeks ago. Seems to be getting >>a bit worse also. >>I retrieve my headers OK, but once I start D/L bodies, >>I get a few, then everything stops dead. >>To get things going again, I have to close Agent, and then >>request the bodies again. I'll get a few message bodies, then the >>server seems to stall again. Very frustrating. It affects binaries & >>text groups. >>My net connection is good, since I can use my browser without a >>problem while APN is stalled. >>Agent 4.32
>>TIA
>It's part of the ongoing problems APN has been experiencing since they >hooked up with Easynews. It's also the reason I dumped APN after being >with them for years. All Forté will tell you is: "Sorry. We're working >on it." After hearing that long enough you'll probably dump them too.
Me, too. I switched to Giganews 6 months ago, and couldn't be happier. And, Giganews has much longer binary retention, over a year.
>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:31:36 -0800, QX <nom...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>Any idea why the APN server is stalling? >>I noticed it starting a couple of weeks ago. Seems to be getting >>a bit worse also. >>I retrieve my headers OK, but once I start D/L bodies, >>I get a few, then everything stops dead.
>Because of my TimeZone (Eastern Australia) I have little trouble.
>>To get things going again, I have to close Agent, and then >>request the bodies again. I'll get a few message bodies, then the >>server seems to stall again. Very frustrating. It affects binaries & >>text groups. >>My net connection is good, since I can use my browser without a >>problem while APN is stalled.
>While you maybe asleep I could be downloading messages or replying.
And I'm in New Zealand. But APN's unreliable, inconsistent and unacceptable timeouts and repeated errors led to me canceling my account and changing to a provider that was FAR more reliable.
>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:01:15 +1300, Nicetameetya <g...@invalid.invalid> >wrote:
>>[Default] On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:21:13 +0000, Ian Anderson >><a...@127.0.0.1.invalid> declared to all and sundry:
>>>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:31:36 -0800, QX <nom...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>Any idea why the APN server is stalling? >>>>I noticed it starting a couple of weeks ago. Seems to be getting >>>>a bit worse also. >>>>I retrieve my headers OK, but once I start D/L bodies, >>>>I get a few, then everything stops dead.
>>>Because of my TimeZone (Eastern Australia) I have little trouble.
>>>>To get things going again, I have to close Agent, and then >>>>request the bodies again. I'll get a few message bodies, then the >>>>server seems to stall again. Very frustrating. It affects binaries & >>>>text groups. >>>>My net connection is good, since I can use my browser without a >>>>problem while APN is stalled.
>>>While you maybe asleep I could be downloading messages or replying.
>>And I'm in New Zealand. But APN's unreliable, inconsistent and >>unacceptable timeouts and repeated errors led to me canceling my >>account and changing to a provider that was FAR more reliable.
>So "individual.net" they are often highly recommended, I'll keep them in >mind if I start having regular problems with APN.
After trying out Giganews and Astraweb I chose Individual.net and have been using them for text newsgroups ever since.
>[Default] On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:00:28 +0000, Ian Anderson ><a...@127.0.0.1.invalid> declared to all and sundry:
>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:01:15 +1300, Nicetameetya <g...@invalid.invalid> >>wrote:
>>>[Default] On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:21:13 +0000, Ian Anderson >>><a...@127.0.0.1.invalid> declared to all and sundry:
>>>>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:31:36 -0800, QX <nom...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>Any idea why the APN server is stalling? >>>>>I noticed it starting a couple of weeks ago. Seems to be getting >>>>>a bit worse also. >>>>>I retrieve my headers OK, but once I start D/L bodies, >>>>>I get a few, then everything stops dead.
>>>>Because of my TimeZone (Eastern Australia) I have little trouble.
>>>>>To get things going again, I have to close Agent, and then >>>>>request the bodies again. I'll get a few message bodies, then the >>>>>server seems to stall again. Very frustrating. It affects binaries & >>>>>text groups. >>>>>My net connection is good, since I can use my browser without a >>>>>problem while APN is stalled.
>>>>While you maybe asleep I could be downloading messages or replying.
>>>And I'm in New Zealand. But APN's unreliable, inconsistent and >>>unacceptable timeouts and repeated errors led to me canceling my >>>account and changing to a provider that was FAR more reliable.
>>So "individual.net" they are often highly recommended, I'll keep them in >>mind if I start having regular problems with APN.
>After trying out Giganews and Astraweb I chose Individual.net and have >been using them for text newsgroups ever since.
Agent folks have said they are getting no reports of problems from anyone else, yet my service is still stalling. He said it's probably my path, but when I encounter a stall, I ping them and get excellent times, no losses, over and over again.
ping news20.forteinc.com Pinging forte.easynews.com [69.16.186.50] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 69.16.186.50: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=59 Reply from 69.16.186.50: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=59 Reply from 69.16.186.50: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=59 Reply from 69.16.186.50: bytes=32 time=93ms TTL=59
Ping statistics for 69.16.186.50: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 <0% Loss>, Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 83ms, Maximum = 105ms, Average = 95ms
The above is typical of what I get when the server seems to be stalled. I can ping over and over and over and all the results are about the same.
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:23:41 -0800, QX <nom...@nospam.com> wrote: >On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:08:54 +1300, Nicetameetya ><g...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>[Default] On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:00:28 +0000, Ian Anderson >><a...@127.0.0.1.invalid> declared to all and sundry:
>>>On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:01:15 +1300, Nicetameetya <g...@invalid.invalid> >>>wrote:
>>>>[Default] On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:21:13 +0000, Ian Anderson >>>><a...@127.0.0.1.invalid> declared to all and sundry:
>>>>>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:31:36 -0800, QX <nom...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Any idea why the APN server is stalling? >>>>>>I noticed it starting a couple of weeks ago. Seems to be getting >>>>>>a bit worse also. >>>>>>I retrieve my headers OK, but once I start D/L bodies, >>>>>>I get a few, then everything stops dead.
>>>>>Because of my TimeZone (Eastern Australia) I have little trouble.
>>>>>>To get things going again, I have to close Agent, and then >>>>>>request the bodies again. I'll get a few message bodies, then the >>>>>>server seems to stall again. Very frustrating. It affects binaries & >>>>>>text groups. >>>>>>My net connection is good, since I can use my browser without a >>>>>>problem while APN is stalled.
>>>>>While you maybe asleep I could be downloading messages or replying.
>>>>And I'm in New Zealand. But APN's unreliable, inconsistent and >>>>unacceptable timeouts and repeated errors led to me canceling my >>>>account and changing to a provider that was FAR more reliable.
>>>So "individual.net" they are often highly recommended, I'll keep them in >>>mind if I start having regular problems with APN.
>>After trying out Giganews and Astraweb I chose Individual.net and have >>been using them for text newsgroups ever since.
>Agent folks have said they are getting no reports of problems from >anyone else, yet my service is still stalling. He said it's probably >my path, but when I encounter a stall, I ping them and get excellent >times, no losses, over and over again.
>ping news20.forteinc.com >Pinging forte.easynews.com [69.16.186.50] with 32 bytes of data: >Reply from 69.16.186.50: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=59 >Reply from 69.16.186.50: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=59 >Reply from 69.16.186.50: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=59 >Reply from 69.16.186.50: bytes=32 time=93ms TTL=59
>Ping statistics for 69.16.186.50: > Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 <0% Loss>, >Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: >Minimum = 83ms, Maximum = 105ms, Average = 95ms
>The above is typical of what I get when the server seems to be >stalled. I can ping over and over and over and all the results are >about the same.
I suspect port blocking or traffic shaping on port 119 since the route is open otherwise. :/
I can attest to seeing the stalls as well. The sessions are open but no data is flowing. Sessions have partial file downloads on binaries and then at some random point the session stalls with xx% downloaded. Sometimes kicking in a priority article download with the enter key can wake things up. The new session at least completes without problems even if the other one is still stalled.
AFAIK, Verizon is not shaping NNTP for FiOS customers.
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