Use GoodSync to Sync Agent 6.0 Email Database Between 2 Computers?
No.T...@here.com
installs on 2 different computers using this program? What folders do
I need to use? Thanks for any help you can give!
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Ralph Fox
No.T...@Here.com wrote:
> Subject: Use GoodSync to Sync Agent 6.0 Email Database Between 2 Computers?
> As the subject says, is it possible to sync the database of 2 Agent
> installs on 2 different computers using this program?
I haven't used GoodSync.
But I should warn you,
1. Don't ever sync the database while Agent is open.
Agent does not share its database files gracefully,
not even with sync programs.
2. I would suggest that you do nott run Agent on each computer
and then try to sync them. You will get data being transferred
in both directions, and eventually this can cause problems.
Between syncs, run Agent on only one of the two computers.
That way, the sync will only transfer data in one direction.
> What folders do
> I need to use?
In Agent,
1. Select any folder in the folders pane
2. Go to "Folder � Properties � Name and Scheme"
3. Look at the bottom of the panel.
That will tell you the two files for this folder's database.
You need to sync all the files in the same folder.
> Thanks for any help you can give!
>
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Ralph
nos...@nospam.invalid
Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:05:50 -0500, in message<1m4mg5hl0d0uqt9oa...@4ax.com>
> No.T...@Here.com wrote:
>
>> > Subject: Use GoodSync to Sync Agent 6.0 Email Database Between 2 Computers?
>> > As the subject says, is it possible to sync the database of 2 Agent
>> > installs on 2 different computers using this program?
> I haven't used GoodSync.
>
> But I should warn you,
>
> 1. Don't ever sync the database while Agent is open.
> Agent does not share its database files gracefully,
> not even with sync programs.
>
> 2. I would suggest that you do nott run Agent on each computer
> and then try to sync them. You will get data being transferred
> in both directions, and eventually this can cause problems.
> Between syncs, run Agent on only one of the two computers.
> That way, the sync will only transfer data in one direction.
Isn't this really an argument for IMAP?
Loren Pechtel
Just the data directory.
However beware that it's going to copy everything every time.
Ralph Fox
My experience is that most Agent users asking about syncing databases
are wanting this for reading Usenet messages.
It is possible to implement an IMAP interface to an NNTP news server.
However, these users also want to keep their "read", "saved", etc.,
flags in sync. They won't get this automatically, because the NNTP news
server does not store this information for users.
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Ralph
No.T...@here.com
wrote:
>I haven't used GoodSync.
>
>But I should warn you,
>
>1. Don't ever sync the database while Agent is open.
> Agent does not share its database files gracefully,
> not even with sync programs.
>
>2. I would suggest that you do nott run Agent on each computer
> and then try to sync them. You will get data being transferred
> in both directions, and eventually this can cause problems.
> Between syncs, run Agent on only one of the two computers.
> That way, the sync will only transfer data in one direction.
Thanks. I was actually thinking of having a database central area
where I would sync each version to trying to avoid some of what you
warn about.
>> What folders do
>> I need to use?
>
>In Agent,
>1. Select any folder in the folders pane
>2. Go to "Folder � Properties � Name and Scheme"
>3. Look at the bottom of the panel.
>
>That will tell you the two files for this folder's database.
>You need to sync all the files in the same folder.
There isn't a central folder that contains all the data for my emails
and addresses? I didn't think I'd need to go to each folder to find
what I need to sync.
Thanks again for your rely.
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No.T...@here.com
Thanks for the reply. Which folder is that one? With syncing only the
changed files will be copied though.
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Kees Nuyt
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Do you own the here.com domain? I don't think so. So you are not
allowed to use it, and the real owner of here.com will not like
to get the spam you may attract to his domain.
Please use the .invalid top level domain to obfuscate your email
address, it exists just for that purpose.
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Ralph Fox
No.T...@Here.com wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:28:58 +1300, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >2. I would suggest that you do nott run Agent on each computer
> > and then try to sync them. You will get data being transferred
> > in both directions, and eventually this can cause problems.
> > Between syncs, run Agent on only one of the two computers.
> > That way, the sync will only transfer data in one direction.
>
> Thanks. I was actually thinking of having a database central area
> where I would sync each version to trying to avoid some of what you
> warn about.
Do not run Agent at two different computers and then sync them
with the database central area. If you do, eventually this will
cause problems.
Between syncs with the central database, run Agent on only one of
the computers.
> >> What folders do
> >> I need to use?
> >
> >In Agent,
> >1. Select any folder in the folders pane
> >2. Go to "Folder � Properties � Name and Scheme"
> >3. Look at the bottom of the panel.
> >
> >That will tell you the two files for this folder's database.
> >You need to sync all the files in the same folder.
>
> There isn't a central folder that contains all the data for my emails
> and addresses? I didn't think I'd need to go to each folder to find
> what I need to sync.
There is a central repository. It is then folder containing those two files.
If you pick any other message folder in Agent, its two files will be in the
same folder. The files which you need to sync are all the files in the
same folder.
If you want your "review recent emails" to be kept in sync, you also
need to sync subfolders of this folder.
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Ralph
No.T...@here.com
wrote:
>Do not run Agent at two different computers and then sync them
>with the database central area. If you do, eventually this will
>cause problems.
>
>Between syncs with the central database, run Agent on only one of
>the computers.
I understand your concerns but only running Agent on one computer
would negate the reason for having it on two. I plan on syncing to the
"central database" before and after each computer session where Agent
will be used. This should avoid any issues as far as I can see. Is
there something I'm obviously missing?
>There is a central repository. It is then folder containing those two files.
>If you pick any other message folder in Agent, its two files will be in the
>same folder. The files which you need to sync are all the files in the
>same folder.
>
>If you want your "review recent emails" to be kept in sync, you also
>need to sync subfolders of this folder.
Thanks, I got it now.
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No.Thanks@invalid
wrote:
>Do you own the here.com domain? I don't think so. So you are not
>allowed to use it, and the real owner of here.com will not like
>to get the spam you may attract to his domain.
>
>Please use the .invalid top level domain to obfuscate your email
>address, it exists just for that purpose.
I've been using the above return address for almost 23 years now,
probably before there actually ever was a real "@ here.com" domain.
Never thought about it since I first used it. Changing it is no big
deal. Thanks for bringing it to my attention that I could
inadvertently be bringing spam to someone.
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Loren Pechtel
It's the directory specified in the shortcut.
I'm aware it only copies the changed stuff--the point is that's
generally everything. The only files that won't get copied are if
there were no new messages in a group.
Ralph Fox
No.T...@Here.com wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:52:10 +1300, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >Do not run Agent at two different computers and then sync them
> >with the database central area. If you do, eventually this will
> >cause problems.
> >
> >Between syncs with the central database, run Agent on only one of
> >the computers.
>
> I understand your concerns but only running Agent on one computer
> would negate the reason for having it on two.
Huh? I haven't said to only ever run Agent on one computer.
The important part is to do all the right syncs between using
Agent on one computer and using Agent on another.
> I plan on syncing to the
> "central database" before and after each computer session where Agent
> will be used. This should avoid any issues as far as I can see.
That should be OK, so long as between the "before" and "after"
syncs you run Agent on only that one computer. Once you have done
the "after" sync, you can then go to a second computer, sync before
running Agent, and sync after.
> Is
> there something I'm obviously missing?
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Ralph
No.Thanks@.invalid
wrote:
>Huh? I haven't said to only ever run Agent on one computer.
>
>The important part is to do all the right syncs between using
>Agent on one computer and using Agent on another.
Got what you're saying now, Too little sleep and too much work this
day... :)
>> I plan on syncing to the
>> "central database" before and after each computer session where Agent
>> will be used. This should avoid any issues as far as I can see.
>
>
>That should be OK, so long as between the "before" and "after"
>syncs you run Agent on only that one computer. Once you have done
>the "after" sync, you can then go to a second computer, sync before
>running Agent, and sync after.
We're on the same page and I will be doing as you advise. Thanks again
for your help!
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Jim B
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>
>On the whole, though, you may be better keeping agent on a USB stick if
>you need to run it in different locations.
>
And where is that USB stick? It's probably at some other location.
The above describes what makes that method unsuitable.
[snip]
Kees Nuyt
Ok, my pleasure. Thanks for your prompt action.
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Andy Taylor
wrote:
>
>There's a neat little program called AllWaySync that can cope with this
>scenario (as long as, as Ralph says, you don't sync while an instance of
>Agent is open). And never, never run both instances at once and expect
>to be able to resolve the mess.
I realise this is an old thread BUT with the advent of affordable and
in many cases "free" online storage sites is it possible to get Agent
to use the datafie on a remote site.
Thereby using the one data file when using any computer you have
synced to the online storage
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Ralph Fox
Andy Taylor wrote:
> I realise this is an old thread BUT with the advent of affordable and
> in many cases "free" online storage sites is it possible to get Agent
> to use the datafie on a remote site.
>
> Thereby using the one data file when using any computer you have
> synced to the online storage
> Regards Andy T
I have not used DropBox myself, but see
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=dropbox&num=30&sitesearch=groups.google.com&as_ugroup=alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
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G. Morgan
I have the whole "Agent" folder in my Dropbox, works like a charm.
The trick is to wait for it to sync-up before closing Agent. If Agent
closes unexpectedly, you'll have unpredictable results next time it
opens.
It usually just brings you "back" and you have to download messages that
have already been read.
One problem is the custom dictionary. There is a quirk I can't quite
pin down yet. I have lost the custom dictionary completely before.
Jaimie Vandenbergh
<G_Mo...@easy.com> wrote:
>Ralph Fox wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 01:40:32 +0100, in message <s2qs07tr6enhj96eb...@4ax.com>
>>Andy Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> I realise this is an old thread BUT with the advent of affordable and
>>> in many cases "free" online storage sites is it possible to get Agent
>>> to use the datafie on a remote site.
>>>
>>> Thereby using the one data file when using any computer you have
>>> synced to the online storage
>>> Regards Andy T
>>
>>I have not used DropBox myself, but see
>>http://groups.google.com/groups/search?as_q=dropbox&num=30&sitesearch=groups.google.com&as_ugroup=alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
>
>I have the whole "Agent" folder in my Dropbox, works like a charm.
>
>The trick is to wait for it to sync-up before closing Agent.
I'd have thought the trick would be to wait for it to sync up *after*
closing Agent... the files are guaranteed to be in the finished+closed
state then.
On the other machine(s), you then have to wait until the Agent files
are synched fully locally before starting it up.
Cheers - Jaimie
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