It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
public??
''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs
and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the Folsom
Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual
subcultures''
Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who don't want
to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed its
image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that
would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that
represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted group of
men who strut their stuff through the city's famously gay Castro
District and the supervisor who represents the area.
Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a person
over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum or anal
region on any public street, sidewalk, street median, parklet or
plaza" or while using public transit.
A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but
prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a
misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail.
Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs
and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the Folsom
Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual
subcultures.
Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt compelled
to act after constituents complained about the naked men who gather in
a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk the streets au
naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to pass a law requiring
a cloth to be placed between public seating and bare rears, yet the
complaints
Advertisement
have continued.
"I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and hanging
out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is really what San
Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of what San Francisco is
about," Wiener said.
The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of City
Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking tourists
and high school students on a field trip.
Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett, 37,
said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer not to
see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices sported by some
of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far
in undermining a tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."
"A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of us,"
he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a light
and show what true nudity is all about so people can separate the
difference between what a nudist is and an exhibitionist is."
Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself, demonstrators
who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors meeting will be
escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what happened last Monday
when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a committee hearing where the ban
had its first public hearing. Taub, a mother of two, said she got her
start as a nudist while hosting a local cable program devoted to the
theory that the government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist
attacks.
"I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to listen,"
she said.
San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit last
week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block Weiner's
ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee. The
complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech rights of
nudists and discriminates against those who cannot afford to obtain a
city permit.
While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not already
illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not have local
nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately covered by
state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But indecent exposure
technically only applies to lewd behavior, so city officials have had
to craft a local solution, he said, adding that the cities of Berkeley
and San Jose already have done so.
"I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently have a
local law (and) that if people started getting naked every day would
quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
> inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
> public??
> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs
> and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the Folsom
> Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual
> subcultures''
> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
> people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who don't want
> to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
> sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed its
> image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that
> would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that
> represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted group of
> men who strut their stuff through the city's famously gay Castro
> District and the supervisor who represents the area.
> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a person
> over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum or anal
> region on any public street, sidewalk, street median, parklet or
> plaza" or while using public transit.
> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but
> prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a
> misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail.
> Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs
> and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the Folsom
> Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual
> subcultures.
> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt compelled
> to act after constituents complained about the naked men who gather in
> a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk the streets au
> naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to pass a law requiring
> a cloth to be placed between public seating and bare rears, yet the
> complaints
> Advertisement
> have continued.
> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and hanging
> out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is really what San
> Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of what San Francisco is
> about," Wiener said.
> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of City
> Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking tourists
> and high school students on a field trip.
> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett, 37,
> said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer not to
> see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices sported by some
> of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far
> in undermining a tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."
> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of us,"
> he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a light
> and show what true nudity is all about so people can separate the
> difference between what a nudist is and an exhibitionist is."
> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself, demonstrators
> who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors meeting will be
> escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what happened last Monday
> when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a committee hearing where the ban
> had its first public hearing. Taub, a mother of two, said she got her
> start as a nudist while hosting a local cable program devoted to the
> theory that the government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist
> attacks.
> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to listen,"
> she said.
> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit last
> week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block Weiner's
> ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee. The
> complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech rights of
> nudists and discriminates against those who cannot afford to obtain a
> city permit.
> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not already
> illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not have local
> nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately covered by
> state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But indecent exposure
> technically only applies to lewd behavior, so city officials have had
> to craft a local solution, he said, adding that the cities of Berkeley
> and San Jose already have done so.
> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently have a
> local law (and) that if people started getting naked every day would
> quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
> > It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
> > inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
> > public??
> > ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs
> > and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the Folsom
> > Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual
> > subcultures''
> > Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
> > people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who don't want
> > to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
> > sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
> > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed its
> > image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
> > City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that
> > would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that
> > represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted group of
> > men who strut their stuff through the city's famously gay Castro
> > District and the supervisor who represents the area.
> > Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a person
> > over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum or anal
> > region on any public street, sidewalk, street median, parklet or
> > plaza" or while using public transit.
> > A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but
> > prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a
> > misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail.
> > Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs
> > and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the Folsom
> > Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual
> > subcultures.
> > Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt compelled
> > to act after constituents complained about the naked men who gather in
> > a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk the streets au
> > naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to pass a law requiring
> > a cloth to be placed between public seating and bare rears, yet the
> > complaints
> > Advertisement
> > have continued.
> > "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and hanging
> > out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is really what San
> > Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of what San Francisco is
> > about," Wiener said.
> > The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
> > lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of City
> > Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking tourists
> > and high school students on a field trip.
> > Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett, 37,
> > said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer not to
> > see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices sported by some
> > of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far
> > in undermining a tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."
> > "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of us,"
> > he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a light
> > and show what true nudity is all about so people can separate the
> > difference between what a nudist is and an exhibitionist is."
> > Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself, demonstrators
> > who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors meeting will be
> > escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what happened last Monday
> > when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a committee hearing where the ban
> > had its first public hearing. Taub, a mother of two, said she got her
> > start as a nudist while hosting a local cable program devoted to the
> > theory that the government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist
> > attacks.
> > "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to listen,"
> > she said.
> > San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit last
> > week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block Weiner's
> > ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee. The
> > complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech rights of
> > nudists and discriminates against those who cannot afford to obtain a
> > city permit.
> > While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not already
> > illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not have local
> > nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately covered by
> > state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But indecent exposure
> > technically only applies to lewd behavior, so city officials have had
> > to craft a local solution, he said, adding that the cities of Berkeley
> > and San Jose already have done so.
> > "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently have a
> > local law (and) that if people started getting naked every day would
> > quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
> did you post this while you were naked
Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
>>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
>>> inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
>>> public??
>>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
>>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
>>> sexual subcultures''
>>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
>>> people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who don't
>>> want to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
>>> sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
>>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed its
>>> image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
>>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that
>>> would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that
>>> represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted group
>>> of men who strut their stuff through the city's famously gay Castro
>>> District and the supervisor who represents the area.
>>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
>>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum
>>> or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street median,
>>> parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
>>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but
>>> prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a
>>> misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail.
>>> Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs
>>> and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the
>>> Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual
>>> subcultures.
>>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
>>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked men
>>> who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk the
>>> streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to pass a
>>> law requiring a cloth to be placed between public seating and bare
>>> rears, yet the complaints
>>> Advertisement
>>> have continued.
>>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and hanging
>>> out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is really what San
>>> Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of what San Francisco
>>> is about," Wiener said.
>>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
>>> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of City
>>> Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking
>>> tourists and high school students on a field trip.
>>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett,
>>> 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer
>>> not to see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices
>>> sported by some of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's
>>> prohibition goes too far in undermining a tradition "that keeps San
>>> Francisco weird."
>>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of
>>> us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a
>>> light and show what true nudity is all about so people can separate
>>> the difference between what a nudist is and an exhibitionist is."
>>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
>>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
>>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what
>>> happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a
>>> committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing. Taub,
>>> a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while hosting a
>>> local cable program devoted to the theory that the government was
>>> behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
>>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
>>> listen," she said.
>>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit
>>> last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block
>>> Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee.
>>> The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech
>>> rights of nudists and discriminates against those who cannot afford
>>> to obtain a city permit.
>>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not already
>>> illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not have local
>>> nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately covered by
>>> state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But indecent
>>> exposure technically only applies to lewd behavior, so city
>>> officials have had to craft a local solution, he said, adding that
>>> the cities of Berkeley and San Jose already have done so.
>>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently
>>> have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked every
>>> day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
>> did you post this while you were naked
> Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely acceptable
> >>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
> >>> inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
> >>> public??
> >>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
> >>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
> >>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
> >>> sexual subcultures''
> >>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
> >>> people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who don't
> >>> want to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
> >>> sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
> >>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed its
> >>> image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
> >>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that
> >>> would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that
> >>> represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted group
> >>> of men who strut their stuff through the city's famously gay Castro
> >>> District and the supervisor who represents the area.
> >>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
> >>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum
> >>> or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street median,
> >>> parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
> >>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but
> >>> prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a
> >>> misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail.
> >>> Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs
> >>> and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the
> >>> Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual
> >>> subcultures.
> >>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
> >>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked men
> >>> who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk the
> >>> streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to pass a
> >>> law requiring a cloth to be placed between public seating and bare
> >>> rears, yet the complaints
> >>> Advertisement
> >>> have continued.
> >>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and hanging
> >>> out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is really what San
> >>> Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of what San Francisco
> >>> is about," Wiener said.
> >>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
> >>> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of City
> >>> Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking
> >>> tourists and high school students on a field trip.
> >>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett,
> >>> 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer
> >>> not to see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices
> >>> sported by some of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's
> >>> prohibition goes too far in undermining a tradition "that keeps San
> >>> Francisco weird."
> >>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of
> >>> us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a
> >>> light and show what true nudity is all about so people can separate
> >>> the difference between what a nudist is and an exhibitionist is."
> >>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
> >>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
> >>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what
> >>> happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a
> >>> committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing. Taub,
> >>> a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while hosting a
> >>> local cable program devoted to the theory that the government was
> >>> behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
> >>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
> >>> listen," she said.
> >>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit
> >>> last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block
> >>> Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee.
> >>> The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech
> >>> rights of nudists and discriminates against those who cannot afford
> >>> to obtain a city permit.
> >>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not already
> >>> illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not have local
> >>> nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately covered by
> >>> state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But indecent
> >>> exposure technically only applies to lewd behavior, so city
> >>> officials have had to craft a local solution, he said, adding that
> >>> the cities of Berkeley and San Jose already have done so.
> >>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently
> >>> have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked every
> >>> day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
> >> did you post this while you were naked
> > Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
> did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely acceptable
Only In certain places, usually a beach, NOT on city streets and they
don't tolerate men sucking each other off in public any more than sane
USA cities.
>>>>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
>>>>> inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
>>>>> public??
>>>>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
>>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
>>>>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
>>>>> sexual subcultures''
>>>>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
>>>>> people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who don't
>>>>> want to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
>>>>> sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
>>>>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed
>>>>> its image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
>>>>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that
>>>>> would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that
>>>>> represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted
>>>>> group of men who strut their stuff through the city's famously
>>>>> gay Castro District and the supervisor who represents the area.
>>>>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
>>>>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum
>>>>> or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street median,
>>>>> parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
>>>>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but
>>>>> prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a
>>>>> misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail.
>>>>> Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
>>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
>>>>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
>>>>> sexual subcultures.
>>>>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
>>>>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked men
>>>>> who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk
>>>>> the streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to
>>>>> pass a law requiring a cloth to be placed between public seating
>>>>> and bare rears, yet the complaints
>>>>> Advertisement
>>>>> have continued.
>>>>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and
>>>>> hanging out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is
>>>>> really what San Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of
>>>>> what San Francisco is about," Wiener said.
>>>>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
>>>>> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of
>>>>> City Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking
>>>>> tourists and high school students on a field trip.
>>>>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett,
>>>>> 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer
>>>>> not to see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices
>>>>> sported by some of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's
>>>>> prohibition goes too far in undermining a tradition "that keeps
>>>>> San Francisco weird."
>>>>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of
>>>>> us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a
>>>>> light and show what true nudity is all about so people can
>>>>> separate the difference between what a nudist is and an
>>>>> exhibitionist is."
>>>>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
>>>>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
>>>>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what
>>>>> happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a
>>>>> committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing.
>>>>> Taub, a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while
>>>>> hosting a local cable program devoted to the theory that the
>>>>> government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
>>>>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
>>>>> listen," she said.
>>>>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit
>>>>> last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block
>>>>> Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee.
>>>>> The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech
>>>>> rights of nudists and discriminates against those who cannot
>>>>> afford to obtain a city permit.
>>>>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not
>>>>> already illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not
>>>>> have local nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately
>>>>> covered by state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But
>>>>> indecent exposure technically only applies to lewd behavior, so
>>>>> city officials have had to craft a local solution, he said,
>>>>> adding that the cities of Berkeley and San Jose already have done
>>>>> so.
>>>>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently
>>>>> have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked every
>>>>> day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
>>>> did you post this while you were naked
>>> Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
>> did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely
>> acceptable
> Only In certain places, usually a beach, NOT on city streets and they
> don't tolerate men sucking each other off in public any more than sane
> USA cities.
in canada women can go topless anywhere they please ,
although most of them don't and the ones that do make you wish they didn't ,
there are parks where men do what they do but they try to keep it in the bushes ,
its not legal as yet but i imagine it won't be long after all they're married
> >>>>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
> >>>>> inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
> >>>>> public??
> >>>>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
> >>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
> >>>>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
> >>>>> sexual subcultures''
> >>>>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
> >>>>> people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who don't
> >>>>> want to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
> >>>>> sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
> >>>>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed
> >>>>> its image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
> >>>>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that
> >>>>> would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that
> >>>>> represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted
> >>>>> group of men who strut their stuff through the city's famously
> >>>>> gay Castro District and the supervisor who represents the area.
> >>>>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
> >>>>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum
> >>>>> or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street median,
> >>>>> parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
> >>>>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but
> >>>>> prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a
> >>>>> misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail.
> >>>>> Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
> >>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
> >>>>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
> >>>>> sexual subcultures.
> >>>>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
> >>>>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked men
> >>>>> who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk
> >>>>> the streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to
> >>>>> pass a law requiring a cloth to be placed between public seating
> >>>>> and bare rears, yet the complaints
> >>>>> Advertisement
> >>>>> have continued.
> >>>>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and
> >>>>> hanging out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is
> >>>>> really what San Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of
> >>>>> what San Francisco is about," Wiener said.
> >>>>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
> >>>>> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of
> >>>>> City Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking
> >>>>> tourists and high school students on a field trip.
> >>>>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett,
> >>>>> 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer
> >>>>> not to see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices
> >>>>> sported by some of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's
> >>>>> prohibition goes too far in undermining a tradition "that keeps
> >>>>> San Francisco weird."
> >>>>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of
> >>>>> us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a
> >>>>> light and show what true nudity is all about so people can
> >>>>> separate the difference between what a nudist is and an
> >>>>> exhibitionist is."
> >>>>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
> >>>>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
> >>>>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what
> >>>>> happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a
> >>>>> committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing.
> >>>>> Taub, a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while
> >>>>> hosting a local cable program devoted to the theory that the
> >>>>> government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
> >>>>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
> >>>>> listen," she said.
> >>>>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit
> >>>>> last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block
> >>>>> Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee.
> >>>>> The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech
> >>>>> rights of nudists and discriminates against those who cannot
> >>>>> afford to obtain a city permit.
> >>>>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not
> >>>>> already illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not
> >>>>> have local nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately
> >>>>> covered by state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But
> >>>>> indecent exposure technically only applies to lewd behavior, so
> >>>>> city officials have had to craft a local solution, he said,
> >>>>> adding that the cities of Berkeley and San Jose already have done
> >>>>> so.
> >>>>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently
> >>>>> have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked every
> >>>>> day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
> >>>> did you post this while you were naked
> >>> Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
> >> did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely
> >> acceptable
> > Only In certain places, usually a beach, NOT on city streets and they
> > don't tolerate men sucking each other off in public any more than sane
> > USA cities.
> in canada women can go topless anywhere they please ,
> although most of them don't and the ones that do make you wish they didn't ,
> there are parks where men do what they do but they try to keep it in the
> bushes ,
> its not legal as yet but i imagine it won't be long after all they're
> married
There are places like that here also. Parks, rest stops and of course
the XXX bookstores w/peepshows in the back. They get a lot of
surveillance from LEA and it results in several embarrassed butt
pirates with their name in the papers. Around here we were able to run
the queer bar and porn shop out of town with a concentrated effort of
legal harassment, ordinance changes and regulating the times they can
operate. Porno palaces make their money at night when the asshole
bandits sneak in under cover of darkness looking for assholes to bang.
>>>>>>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
>>>>>>> inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe
>>>>>>> in public??
>>>>>>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
>>>>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
>>>>>>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
>>>>>>> sexual subcultures''
>>>>>>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
>>>>>>> people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who
>>>>>>> don't want to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
>>>>>>> sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
>>>>>>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed
>>>>>>> its image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
>>>>>>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance
>>>>>>> that would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban
>>>>>>> that represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a
>>>>>>> devoted group of men who strut their stuff through the city's
>>>>>>> famously gay Castro District and the supervisor who represents
>>>>>>> the area.
>>>>>>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
>>>>>>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals,
>>>>>>> perineum or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street
>>>>>>> median, parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
>>>>>>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine,
>>>>>>> but prosecutors would have authority to charge a third
>>>>>>> violation as a misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and
>>>>>>> a year in jail. Exemptions would be made for participants at
>>>>>>> permitted street fairs and parades, such as the city's annual
>>>>>>> gay pride event and the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates
>>>>>>> sadomasochism and other sexual subcultures.
>>>>>>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
>>>>>>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked
>>>>>>> men who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes
>>>>>>> walk the streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last
>>>>>>> year to pass a law requiring a cloth to be placed between
>>>>>>> public seating and bare rears, yet the complaints
>>>>>>> Advertisement
>>>>>>> have continued.
>>>>>>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and
>>>>>>> hanging out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is
>>>>>>> really what San Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of
>>>>>>> what San Francisco is about," Wiener said.
>>>>>>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
>>>>>>> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of
>>>>>>> City Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of
>>>>>>> gawking tourists and high school students on a field trip.
>>>>>>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray
>>>>>>> Winpsett, 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who
>>>>>>> would prefer not to see the body modifications and sex
>>>>>>> enhancement devices sported by some of the Castro nudists. But
>>>>>>> he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far in undermining a
>>>>>>> tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."
>>>>>>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of
>>>>>>> us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself
>>>>>>> in a light and show what true nudity is all about so people can
>>>>>>> separate the difference between what a nudist is and an
>>>>>>> exhibitionist is."
>>>>>>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
>>>>>>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
>>>>>>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what
>>>>>>> happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a
>>>>>>> committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing.
>>>>>>> Taub, a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while
>>>>>>> hosting a local cable program devoted to the theory that the
>>>>>>> government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
>>>>>>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
>>>>>>> listen," she said.
>>>>>>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit
>>>>>>> last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block
>>>>>>> Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin
>>>>>>> Lee. The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free
>>>>>>> speech rights of nudists and discriminates against those who
>>>>>>> cannot afford to obtain a city permit.
>>>>>>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not
>>>>>>> already illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not
>>>>>>> have local nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are
>>>>>>> adequately covered by state indecent exposure laws and societal
>>>>>>> mores. But indecent exposure technically only applies to lewd
>>>>>>> behavior, so city officials have had to craft a local solution,
>>>>>>> he said, adding that the cities of Berkeley and San Jose
>>>>>>> already have done so.
>>>>>>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently
>>>>>>> have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked
>>>>>>> every day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
>>>>>> did you post this while you were naked
>>>>> Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
>>>> did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely
>>>> acceptable
>>> Only In certain places, usually a beach, NOT on city streets and
>>> they don't tolerate men sucking each other off in public any more
>>> than sane USA cities.
>> in canada women can go topless anywhere they please ,
>> although most of them don't and the ones that do make you wish they
>> didn't , there are parks where men do what they do but they try to
>> keep it in the bushes ,
>> its not legal as yet but i imagine it won't be long after all they're
>> married
> There are places like that here also. Parks, rest stops and of course
> the XXX bookstores w/peepshows in the back. They get a lot of
> surveillance from LEA and it results in several embarrassed butt
> pirates with their name in the papers. Around here we were able to run
> the queer bar and porn shop out of town with a concentrated effort of
> legal harassment, ordinance changes and regulating the times they can
> operate. Porno palaces make their money at night when the asshole
> bandits sneak in under cover of darkness looking for assholes to bang.
i don't really care who does what if ,
they're old enough to consent and i don't have to see and ,
on the flip side i have no interest in being watched
> >>>>>>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
> >>>>>>> inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe
> >>>>>>> in public??
> >>>>>>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
> >>>>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
> >>>>>>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
> >>>>>>> sexual subcultures''
> >>>>>>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
> >>>>>>> people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who
> >>>>>>> don't want to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
> >>>>>>> sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
> >>>>>>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed
> >>>>>>> its image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
> >>>>>>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance
> >>>>>>> that would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban
> >>>>>>> that represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a
> >>>>>>> devoted group of men who strut their stuff through the city's
> >>>>>>> famously gay Castro District and the supervisor who represents
> >>>>>>> the area.
> >>>>>>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
> >>>>>>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals,
> >>>>>>> perineum or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street
> >>>>>>> median, parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
> >>>>>>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine,
> >>>>>>> but prosecutors would have authority to charge a third
> >>>>>>> violation as a misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and
> >>>>>>> a year in jail. Exemptions would be made for participants at
> >>>>>>> permitted street fairs and parades, such as the city's annual
> >>>>>>> gay pride event and the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates
> >>>>>>> sadomasochism and other sexual subcultures.
> >>>>>>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
> >>>>>>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked
> >>>>>>> men who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes
> >>>>>>> walk the streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last
> >>>>>>> year to pass a law requiring a cloth to be placed between
> >>>>>>> public seating and bare rears, yet the complaints
> >>>>>>> Advertisement
> >>>>>>> have continued.
> >>>>>>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and
> >>>>>>> hanging out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is
> >>>>>>> really what San Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of
> >>>>>>> what San Francisco is about," Wiener said.
> >>>>>>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
> >>>>>>> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of
> >>>>>>> City Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of
> >>>>>>> gawking tourists and high school students on a field trip.
> >>>>>>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray
> >>>>>>> Winpsett, 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who
> >>>>>>> would prefer not to see the body modifications and sex
> >>>>>>> enhancement devices sported by some of the Castro nudists. But
> >>>>>>> he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far in undermining a
> >>>>>>> tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."
> >>>>>>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of
> >>>>>>> us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself
> >>>>>>> in a light and show what true nudity is all about so people can
> >>>>>>> separate the difference between what a nudist is and an
> >>>>>>> exhibitionist is."
> >>>>>>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
> >>>>>>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
> >>>>>>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what
> >>>>>>> happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a
> >>>>>>> committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing.
> >>>>>>> Taub, a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while
> >>>>>>> hosting a local cable program devoted to the theory that the
> >>>>>>> government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
> >>>>>>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
> >>>>>>> listen," she said.
> >>>>>>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit
> >>>>>>> last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block
> >>>>>>> Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin
> >>>>>>> Lee. The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free
> >>>>>>> speech rights of nudists and discriminates against those who
> >>>>>>> cannot afford to obtain a city permit.
> >>>>>>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not
> >>>>>>> already illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not
> >>>>>>> have local nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are
> >>>>>>> adequately covered by state indecent exposure laws and societal
> >>>>>>> mores. But indecent exposure technically only applies to lewd
> >>>>>>> behavior, so city officials have had to craft a local solution,
> >>>>>>> he said, adding that the cities of Berkeley and San Jose
> >>>>>>> already have done so.
> >>>>>>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently
> >>>>>>> have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked
> >>>>>>> every day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
> >>>>>> did you post this while you were naked
> >>>>> Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
> >>>> did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely
> >>>> acceptable
> >>> Only In certain places, usually a beach, NOT on city streets and
> >>> they don't tolerate men sucking each other off in public any more
> >>> than sane USA cities.
> >> in canada women can go topless anywhere they please ,
> >> although most of them don't and the ones that do make you wish they
> >> didn't , there are parks where men do what they do but they try to
> >> keep it in the bushes ,
> >> its not legal as yet but i imagine it won't be long after all they're
> >> married
> > There are places like that here also. Parks, rest stops and of course
> > the XXX bookstores w/peepshows in the back. They get a lot of
> > surveillance from LEA and it results in several embarrassed butt
> > pirates with their name in the papers. Around here we were able to run
> > the queer bar and porn shop out of town with a concentrated effort of
> > legal harassment, ordinance changes and regulating the times they can
> > operate. Porno palaces make their money at night when the asshole
> > bandits sneak in under cover of darkness looking for assholes to bang.
> i don't really care who does what if ,
> they're old enough to consent and i don't have to see
That's the problem right there. They are getting uppity and forcing
their depravity on everybody. They feel like sucking shit off of a
mans dick or sucking cum outta his stinking ass is "normal'' and rates
special merits and privileges like recognizing their unholy and
sacrilegious "marriage'' rituals. In essence they are forcing
everybody to watch....
--
''Thanking Obama for killing Bin Laden is like thanking Ronald
McDonald for the Big Mac. You thank the one who made the
burger, not the clown''
"Well he's a friend of those long haired, hippy type, pinko fags
I'll betcha he's even got a Commie flag tacked up on the wall
inside of his garage"~~The Charlie Daniels Band.
"I think we'll be seeing less of bobandcarole...at least while I'm
around" ~Scott Allen Salberg, Resident Fool & Court Jester of APH
........................................................................... ....................
#1 pedophile hunters: The Urban Dictionary & Evil-Unveiled.com
http://evil-unveiled.com/Alt.support.boy-lovers ........................................................................... .............
#5 ruiner of usenet.
........................................................................... ............
Owner and trainer of Tom Evans aka "mad as a box of frogs"
aka "bit" Tom Evans actual picture:http://bayimg.com/faJBbaAcd ........................................................................... ..............
"Publicity is publicity, good or bad it's STILL publicity"~ Alice
Cooper
........................................................................... ..............
...
>>>>>>>>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still
>>>>>>>>> are inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to
>>>>>>>>> disrobe in public??
>>>>>>>>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted
>>>>>>>>> street fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride
>>>>>>>>> event and the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates
>>>>>>>>> sadomasochism and other sexual subcultures''
>>>>>>>>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's?
>>>>>>>>> These people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens
>>>>>>>>> who don't want to see them flaunting their immorality
>>>>>>>>> blatantly by sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
>>>>>>>>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to
>>>>>>>>> shed its image as a city where anything goes, including
>>>>>>>>> clothing.
>>>>>>>>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance
>>>>>>>>> that would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket
>>>>>>>>> ban that represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a
>>>>>>>>> devoted group of men who strut their stuff through the city's
>>>>>>>>> famously gay Castro District and the supervisor who represents
>>>>>>>>> the area.
>>>>>>>>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
>>>>>>>>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals,
>>>>>>>>> perineum or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street
>>>>>>>>> median, parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
>>>>>>>>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine,
>>>>>>>>> but prosecutors would have authority to charge a third
>>>>>>>>> violation as a misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and
>>>>>>>>> a year in jail. Exemptions would be made for participants at
>>>>>>>>> permitted street fairs and parades, such as the city's annual
>>>>>>>>> gay pride event and the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates
>>>>>>>>> sadomasochism and other sexual subcultures.
>>>>>>>>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
>>>>>>>>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked
>>>>>>>>> men who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes
>>>>>>>>> walk the streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last
>>>>>>>>> year to pass a law requiring a cloth to be placed between
>>>>>>>>> public seating and bare rears, yet the complaints
>>>>>>>>> Advertisement
>>>>>>>>> have continued.
>>>>>>>>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and
>>>>>>>>> hanging out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is
>>>>>>>>> really what San Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature
>>>>>>>>> of what San Francisco is about," Wiener said.
>>>>>>>>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as
>>>>>>>>> a lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in
>>>>>>>>> front of City Hall and marched around the block to the
>>>>>>>>> amusement of gawking tourists and high school students on a
>>>>>>>>> field trip.
>>>>>>>>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray
>>>>>>>>> Winpsett, 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who
>>>>>>>>> would prefer not to see the body modifications and sex
>>>>>>>>> enhancement devices sported by some of the Castro nudists. But
>>>>>>>>> he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far in undermining a
>>>>>>>>> tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."
>>>>>>>>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest
>>>>>>>>> of us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present
>>>>>>>>> myself in a light and show what true nudity is all about so
>>>>>>>>> people can separate the difference between what a nudist is
>>>>>>>>> and an exhibitionist is."
>>>>>>>>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
>>>>>>>>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
>>>>>>>>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is
>>>>>>>>> what happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress
>>>>>>>>> at a committee hearing where the ban had its first public
>>>>>>>>> hearing. Taub, a mother of two, said she got her start as a
>>>>>>>>> nudist while hosting a local cable program devoted to the
>>>>>>>>> theory that the government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001
>>>>>>>>> terrorist attacks.
>>>>>>>>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
>>>>>>>>> listen," she said.
>>>>>>>>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal
>>>>>>>>> lawsuit last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks
>>>>>>>>> to block Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by
>>>>>>>>> Mayor Edwin Lee. The complaint alleges that the ban infringes
>>>>>>>>> on the free speech rights of nudists and discriminates
>>>>>>>>> against those who cannot afford to obtain a city permit.
>>>>>>>>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not
>>>>>>>>> already illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do
>>>>>>>>> not have local nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are
>>>>>>>>> adequately covered by state indecent exposure laws and
>>>>>>>>> societal mores. But indecent exposure technically only
>>>>>>>>> applies to lewd behavior, so city officials have had to craft
>>>>>>>>> a local solution, he said, adding that the cities of Berkeley
>>>>>>>>> and San Jose already have done so.
>>>>>>>>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't
>>>>>>>>> currently have a local law (and) that if people started
>>>>>>>>> getting naked every day would quickly see a local law,"
>>>>>>>>> Wiener said.
>>>>>>>> did you post this while you were naked
>>>>>>> Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own
>>>>>>> home.
>>>>>> did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely
>>>>>> acceptable
>>>>> Only In certain places, usually a beach, NOT on city streets and
>>>>> they don't tolerate men sucking each other off in public any more
>>>>> than sane USA cities.
>>>> in canada women can go topless anywhere they please ,
>>>> although most of them don't and the ones that do make you wish they
>>>> didn't , there are parks where men do what they do but they try to
>>>> keep it in the bushes ,
>>>> its not legal as yet but i imagine it won't be long after all
>>>> they're married
>>> There are places like that here also. Parks, rest stops and of
>>> course the XXX bookstores w/peepshows in the back. They get a lot of
>>> surveillance from LEA and it results in several embarrassed butt
>>> pirates with their name in the papers. Around here we were able to
>>> run the queer bar and porn shop out of town with a concentrated
>>> effort of legal harassment, ordinance changes and regulating the
>>> times they can operate. Porno palaces make their money at night
>>> when the asshole bandits sneak in under cover of darkness looking
>>> for assholes to bang.
>> i don't really care who does what if ,
>> they're old enough to consent and i don't have to see
> That's the problem right there. They are getting uppity and forcing
> their depravity on everybody. They feel like sucking shit off of a
> mans dick or sucking cum outta his stinking ass is "normal'' and rates
> special merits and privileges like recognizing their unholy and
> sacrilegious "marriage'' rituals. In essence they are forcing
> everybody to watch....
> and ,
>> on the flip side i have no interest in being watched
that's why i bought 10 acres in the rocky mountains and ,
moved to a place where i never see anyone unless i want to ,
i haven't been to a city bigger than 5,000 people in about 10 years ,
i haven't been to a big city like in the millions in 15 years and ,
you would be run out of the nearest town to me even if ,
they knew you harbored those thoughts
Discussion subject changed to "NOMINATION: bobandcarole for the 20th Century Fox 8-Track Mind Award for November, 2012 (was Re: Public nudity ban eyed in fed-up San Francisco)" by Nadegda
Subject: NOMINATION: bobandcarole for the 20th Century Fox 8-Track Mind Award for November, 2012 (was Re: Public nudity ban eyed in fed-up San Francisco)
>> >>>>>>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still
>> >>>>>>> are inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to
>> >>>>>>> disrobe in public??
>> >>>>>>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
>> >>>>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event
>> >>>>>>> and the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and
>> >>>>>>> other sexual subcultures''
>> >>>>>>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's?
>> >>>>>>> These people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens
>> >>>>>>> who don't want to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly
>> >>>>>>> by sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
>> >>>>>>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to
>> >>>>>>> shed its image as a city where anything goes, including
>> >>>>>>> clothing.
>> >>>>>>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance
>> >>>>>>> that would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban
>> >>>>>>> that represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a
>> >>>>>>> devoted group of men who strut their stuff through the city's
>> >>>>>>> famously gay Castro District and the supervisor who represents
>> >>>>>>> the area.
>> >>>>>>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
>> >>>>>>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals,
>> >>>>>>> perineum or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street
>> >>>>>>> median, parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
>> >>>>>>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine,
>> >>>>>>> but prosecutors would have authority to charge a third
>> >>>>>>> violation as a misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and
>> >>>>>>> a year in jail. Exemptions would be made for participants at
>> >>>>>>> permitted street fairs and parades, such as the city's annual
>> >>>>>>> gay pride event and the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates
>> >>>>>>> sadomasochism and other sexual subcultures.
>> >>>>>>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
>> >>>>>>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked
>> >>>>>>> men who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes
>> >>>>>>> walk the streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last
>> >>>>>>> year to pass a law requiring a cloth to be placed between
>> >>>>>>> public seating and bare rears, yet the complaints Advertisement
>> >>>>>>> have continued.
>> >>>>>>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and
>> >>>>>>> hanging out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is
>> >>>>>>> really what San Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature
>> >>>>>>> of what San Francisco is about," Wiener said.
>> >>>>>>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
>> >>>>>>> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of
>> >>>>>>> City Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of
>> >>>>>>> gawking tourists and high school students on a field trip.
>> >>>>>>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray
>> >>>>>>> Winpsett, 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who
>> >>>>>>> would prefer not to see the body modifications and sex
>> >>>>>>> enhancement devices sported by some of the Castro nudists. But
>> >>>>>>> he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far in undermining a
>> >>>>>>> tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."
>> >>>>>>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest
>> >>>>>>> of us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present
>> >>>>>>> myself in a light and show what true nudity is all about so
>> >>>>>>> people can separate the difference between what a nudist is and
>> >>>>>>> an exhibitionist is."
>> >>>>>>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
>> >>>>>>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
>> >>>>>>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is
>> >>>>>>> what happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at
>> >>>>>>> a committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing.
>> >>>>>>> Taub, a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while
>> >>>>>>> hosting a local cable program devoted to the theory that the
>> >>>>>>> government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
>> >>>>>>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
>> >>>>>>> listen," she said.
>> >>>>>>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal
>> >>>>>>> lawsuit last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to
>> >>>>>>> block Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor
>> >>>>>>> Edwin Lee. The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the
>> >>>>>>> free speech rights of nudists and discriminates against those
>> >>>>>>> who cannot afford to obtain a city permit.
>> >>>>>>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not
>> >>>>>>> already illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not
>> >>>>>>> have local nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are
>> >>>>>>> adequately covered by state indecent exposure laws and societal
>> >>>>>>> mores. But indecent exposure technically only applies to lewd
>> >>>>>>> behavior, so city officials have had to craft a local solution,
>> >>>>>>> he said, adding that the cities of Berkeley and San Jose
>> >>>>>>> already have done so.
>> >>>>>>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently
>> >>>>>>> have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked
>> >>>>>>> every day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
>> >>>>>> did you post this while you were naked
>> >>>>> Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
>> >>>> did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely
>> >>>> acceptable
>> >>> Only In certain places, usually a beach, NOT on city streets and
>> >>> they don't tolerate men sucking each other off in public any more
>> >>> than sane USA cities.
>> >> in canada women can go topless anywhere they please , although most
>> >> of them don't and the ones that do make you wish they didn't , there
>> >> are parks where men do what they do but they try to keep it in the
>> >> bushes ,
>> >> its not legal as yet but i imagine it won't be long after all
>> >> they're married
>> > There are places like that here also. Parks, rest stops and of course
>> > the XXX bookstores w/peepshows in the back. They get a lot of
>> > surveillance from LEA and it results in several embarrassed butt
>> > pirates with their name in the papers. Around here we were able to
>> > run the queer bar and porn shop out of town with a concentrated
>> > effort of legal harassment, ordinance changes and regulating the
>> > times they can operate. Porno palaces make their money at night when
>> > the asshole bandits sneak in under cover of darkness looking for
>> > assholes to bang.
>> i don't really care who does what if , they're old enough to consent
>> and i don't have to see
> That's the problem right there. They are getting uppity and forcing
> their depravity on everybody. They feel like sucking shit off of a mans
> dick or sucking cum outta his stinking ass is "normal'' and rates
> special merits and privileges like recognizing their unholy and
> sacrilegious "marriage'' rituals. In essence they are forcing everybody
> to watch....
How so? They're not, for the most part, actually doing their sex acts in public places ... and for those few who do, there are probably at least as many heterosexual exhibitionists.
> ''Thanking Obama for killing Bin Laden is like thanking Ronald McDonald
> for the Big Mac. You thank the one who made the burger, not the clown''
> "Well he's a friend of those long haired, hippy type, pinko fags I'll
> betcha he's even got a Commie flag tacked up on the wall inside of his
> garage"~~The Charlie Daniels Band.
> "I think we'll be seeing less of bobandcarole...at least while I'm
> around" ~Scott Allen Salberg, Resident Fool & Court Jester of APH
> ........................................................................... ....................
> #1 pedophile hunters: The Urban Dictionary & Evil-Unveiled.com
> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
> inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
> public??
> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs
> and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the Folsom
> Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual
> subcultures''
> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
> people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who don't want
> to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
> sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed its
> image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that
> would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that
> represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted group of
> men who strut their stuff through the city's famously gay Castro
> District and the supervisor who represents the area.
"Wiener" LOL
> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a person
> over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum or anal
> region on any public street, sidewalk, street median, parklet or
> plaza" or while using public transit.
> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but
> prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a
> misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail.
> Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs
> and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the Folsom
> Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual
> subcultures.
> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt compelled
> to act after constituents complained about the naked men who gather in
> a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk the streets au
> naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to pass a law requiring
> a cloth to be placed between public seating and bare rears, yet the
> complaints
> Advertisement
> have continued.
> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and hanging
> out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is really what San
> Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of what San Francisco is
> about," Wiener said.
> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of City
> Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking tourists
> and high school students on a field trip.
> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett, 37,
> said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer not to
> see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices sported by some
> of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far
> in undermining a tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."
> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of us,"
> he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a light
> and show what true nudity is all about so people can separate the
> difference between what a nudist is and an exhibitionist is."
> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself, demonstrators
> who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors meeting will be
> escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what happened last Monday
> when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a committee hearing where the ban
> had its first public hearing. Taub, a mother of two, said she got her
> start as a nudist while hosting a local cable program devoted to the
> theory that the government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist
> attacks.
> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to listen,"
> she said.
> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit last
> week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block Weiner's
> ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee. The
> complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech rights of
> nudists and discriminates against those who cannot afford to obtain a
> city permit.
> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not already
> illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not have local
> nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately covered by
> state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But indecent exposure
> technically only applies to lewd behavior, so city officials have had
> to craft a local solution, he said, adding that the cities of Berkeley
> and San Jose already have done so.
> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently have a
> local law (and) that if people started getting naked every day would
> quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
"Nov. 1 can't come quickly enough for me. I really, REALLY want to put
that little + in the box for your Creepy Candy Coating on the ballot,
so badly my hand is twitching. And I'm sorely tempted to rustle up a
couple dozen sockpuppets and stuff the ballot box just to make
absolutely sure you "win" it, you fucking lech!"
"You can sit there all you want and spit out all the denial you can
muster, it still doesn't change the fact that you are the current king shit of the puppeteers in this group."
Discussion subject changed to "NOMINATION: Nadegda for the clueless no0bie Award for November, 2012 (was Re: Public nudity ban eyed in fed-up San Francisco)" by -̮̮̃-̃ ̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾ ™Usenet Legends bobandcarole ----- > ♫♫♫♫
> >> >>>>>>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still
> >> >>>>>>> are inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to
> >> >>>>>>> disrobe in public??
> >> >>>>>>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
> >> >>>>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event
> >> >>>>>>> and the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and
> >> >>>>>>> other sexual subcultures''
> >> >>>>>>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's?
> >> >>>>>>> These people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens
> >> >>>>>>> who don't want to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly
> >> >>>>>>> by sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
> >> >>>>>>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to
> >> >>>>>>> shed its image as a city where anything goes, including
> >> >>>>>>> clothing.
> >> >>>>>>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance
> >> >>>>>>> that would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban
> >> >>>>>>> that represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a
> >> >>>>>>> devoted group of men who strut their stuff through the city's
> >> >>>>>>> famously gay Castro District and the supervisor who represents
> >> >>>>>>> the area.
> >> >>>>>>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
> >> >>>>>>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals,
> >> >>>>>>> perineum or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street
> >> >>>>>>> median, parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
> >> >>>>>>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine,
> >> >>>>>>> but prosecutors would have authority to charge a third
> >> >>>>>>> violation as a misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and
> >> >>>>>>> a year in jail. Exemptions would be made for participants at
> >> >>>>>>> permitted street fairs and parades, such as the city's annual
> >> >>>>>>> gay pride event and the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates
> >> >>>>>>> sadomasochism and other sexual subcultures.
> >> >>>>>>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
> >> >>>>>>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked
> >> >>>>>>> men who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes
> >> >>>>>>> walk the streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last
> >> >>>>>>> year to pass a law requiring a cloth to be placed between
> >> >>>>>>> public seating and bare rears, yet the complaints Advertisement
> >> >>>>>>> have continued.
> >> >>>>>>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and
> >> >>>>>>> hanging out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is
> >> >>>>>>> really what San Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature
> >> >>>>>>> of what San Francisco is about," Wiener said.
> >> >>>>>>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
> >> >>>>>>> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of
> >> >>>>>>> City Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of
> >> >>>>>>> gawking tourists and high school students on a field trip.
> >> >>>>>>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray
> >> >>>>>>> Winpsett, 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who
> >> >>>>>>> would prefer not to see the body modifications and sex
> >> >>>>>>> enhancement devices sported by some of the Castro nudists. But
> >> >>>>>>> he thinks Wiener's prohibition goes too far in undermining a
> >> >>>>>>> tradition "that keeps San Francisco weird."
> >> >>>>>>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest
> >> >>>>>>> of us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present
> >> >>>>>>> myself in a light and show what true nudity is all about so
> >> >>>>>>> people can separate the difference between what a nudist is and
> >> >>>>>>> an exhibitionist is."
> >> >>>>>>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
> >> >>>>>>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
> >> >>>>>>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is
> >> >>>>>>> what happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at
> >> >>>>>>> a committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing.
> >> >>>>>>> Taub, a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while
> >> >>>>>>> hosting a local cable program devoted to the theory that the
> >> >>>>>>> government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
> >> >>>>>>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
> >> >>>>>>> listen," she said.
> >> >>>>>>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal
> >> >>>>>>> lawsuit last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to
> >> >>>>>>> block Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor
> >> >>>>>>> Edwin Lee. The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the
> >> >>>>>>> free speech rights of nudists and discriminates against those
> >> >>>>>>> who cannot afford to obtain a city permit.
> >> >>>>>>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not
> >> >>>>>>> already illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not
> >> >>>>>>> have local nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are
> >> >>>>>>> adequately covered by state indecent exposure laws and societal
> >> >>>>>>> mores. But indecent exposure technically only applies to lewd
> >> >>>>>>> behavior, so city officials have had to craft a local solution,
> >> >>>>>>> he said, adding that the cities of Berkeley and San Jose
> >> >>>>>>> already have done so.
> >> >>>>>>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently
> >> >>>>>>> have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked
> >> >>>>>>> every day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
> >> >>>>>> did you post this while you were naked
> >> >>>>> Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
> >> >>>> did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely
> >> >>>> acceptable
> >> >>> Only In certain places, usually a beach, NOT on city streets and
> >> >>> they don't tolerate men sucking each other off in public any more
> >> >>> than sane USA cities.
> >> >> in canada women can go topless anywhere they please , although most
> >> >> of them don't and the ones that do make you wish they didn't , there
> >> >> are parks where men do what they do but they try to keep it in the
> >> >> bushes ,
> >> >> its not legal as yet but i imagine it won't be long after all
> >> >> they're married
> >> > There are places like that here also. Parks, rest stops and of course
> >> > the XXX bookstores w/peepshows in the back. They get a lot of
> >> > surveillance from LEA and it results in several embarrassed butt
> >> > pirates with their name in the papers. Around here we were able to
> >> > run the queer bar and porn shop out of town with a concentrated
> >> > effort of legal harassment, ordinance changes and regulating the
> >> > times they can operate. Porno palaces make their money at night when
> >> > the asshole bandits sneak in under cover of darkness looking for
> >> > assholes to bang.
> >> i don't really care who does what if , they're old enough to consent
> >> and i don't have to see
> > That's the problem right there. They are getting uppity and forcing
> > their depravity on everybody. They feel like sucking shit off of a mans
> > dick or sucking cum outta his stinking ass is "normal'' and rates
> > special merits and privileges like recognizing their unholy and
> > sacrilegious "marriage'' rituals. In essence they are forcing everybody
> > to watch....
> How so? They're not, for the most part, actually doing their sex acts in
> public places ... and for those few who do, there are probably at least
> as many heterosexual exhibitionists.
How many Heterosexual pride parades w/nudity and sex acts on the city
streets have you attended? None because Heterosexuals don't feel the
need to flaunt their sexuality in front of everybody, no0b.
If they must be exhibitionists let them frequent the designated nude
beaches and/or areas like the seedy sex shops. Not in public and in
front of children.
--
''Thanking Obama for killing Bin Laden is like thanking Ronald
McDonald for the Big Mac. You thank the one who made the
burger, not the clown''
"Well he's a friend of those long haired, hippy type, pinko fags
I'll betcha he's even got a Commie flag tacked up on the wall
inside of his garage"~~The Charlie Daniels Band.
> On Nov 19, 2:57 am, Nadegda <nad318b...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:37:55 -0800, ▂▃▄▅▆▇вовДИdҀДЯфlЄ▇▆▅▄▃▂ wrote:
>> > That's the problem right there. They are getting uppity and forcing
>> > their depravity on everybody. They feel like sucking shit off of a
>> > mans dick or sucking cum outta his stinking ass is "normal'' and
>> > rates special merits and privileges like recognizing their unholy and
>> > sacrilegious "marriage'' rituals. In essence they are forcing
>> > everybody to watch....
>> How so? They're not, for the most part, actually doing their sex acts
>> in public places ... and for those few who do, there are probably at
>> least as many heterosexual exhibitionists.
> How many Heterosexual pride parades w/nudity and sex acts on the city
> streets have you attended? None because Heterosexuals don't feel the
> need to flaunt their sexuality in front of everybody, no0b.
Proof, kooky? There are plenty of instances of heterosexual exhibitionism, though no pride parades -- pride parades are a reaction to discrimination and bigotry, so there wouldn't be heterosexual ones.
> If they must be exhibitionists let them f<SLAP!>
Unless you're alleging that homosexuals kidnapped you, tied you to a lamppost along a parade route, and taped your eyes open to force you to watch, nobody's forcing anyone on anything here -- except you and your fellow homophobes, who'd clearly love nothing more than to force gays back into closets the world over.
> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah.
YEP Fat Cat Good Olde Boys of the Stiff Necked Bible Beltn' Bigots need to be taught another
Lesson.
Protestants can Alter the Bible to change the Word all they want, doesn't make it the Word of
God!
Altering the Constitution to identify Marriage isn't a "REDUCTION" of Government Powers, it is
an Abuse of it!
Committing an Unconstitutional Invasion of Private Contracts, and Eminent Domain Rights, for the
Exercise of the Police Powers of the Church, to support Lynch Mob Mentality!
"%" wrote:
> Usenet Legends bobandcarole £ wrote:
> > It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
> > inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
> > public??
> did you post this while you were naked
Most Likely!
Split Personality doing the Rosy Palm Dating Service while hunting!
> > >>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
> > >>> inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
> > >>> public??
> > >>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
> > >>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
> > >>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
> > >>> sexual subcultures''
> > >>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
> > >>> people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who don't
> > >>> want to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
> > >>> sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
> > >>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed its
> > >>> image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
> > >>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that
> > >>> would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that
> > >>> represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted group
> > >>> of men who strut their stuff through the city's famously gay Castro
> > >>> District and the supervisor who represents the area.
> > >>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
> > >>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum
> > >>> or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street median,
> > >>> parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
> > >>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but
> > >>> prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a
> > >>> misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail.
> > >>> Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street fairs
> > >>> and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and the
> > >>> Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other sexual
> > >>> subcultures.
> > >>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
> > >>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked men
> > >>> who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk the
> > >>> streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to pass a
> > >>> law requiring a cloth to be placed between public seating and bare
> > >>> rears, yet the complaints
> > >>> Advertisement
> > >>> have continued.
> > >>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and hanging
> > >>> out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is really what San
> > >>> Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of what San Francisco
> > >>> is about," Wiener said.
> > >>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
> > >>> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of City
> > >>> Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking
> > >>> tourists and high school students on a field trip.
> > >>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett,
> > >>> 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer
> > >>> not to see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices
> > >>> sported by some of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's
> > >>> prohibition goes too far in undermining a tradition "that keeps San
> > >>> Francisco weird."
> > >>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of
> > >>> us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a
> > >>> light and show what true nudity is all about so people can separate
> > >>> the difference between what a nudist is and an exhibitionist is."
> > >>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
> > >>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
> > >>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what
> > >>> happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a
> > >>> committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing. Taub,
> > >>> a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while hosting a
> > >>> local cable program devoted to the theory that the government was
> > >>> behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
> > >>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
> > >>> listen," she said.
> > >>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit
> > >>> last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block
> > >>> Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee.
> > >>> The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech
> > >>> rights of nudists and discriminates against those who cannot afford
> > >>> to obtain a city permit.
> > >>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not already
> > >>> illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not have local
> > >>> nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately covered by
> > >>> state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But indecent
> > >>> exposure technically only applies to lewd behavior, so city
> > >>> officials have had to craft a local solution, he said, adding that
> > >>> the cities of Berkeley and San Jose already have done so.
> > >>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently
> > >>> have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked every
> > >>> day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
> > >> did you post this while you were naked
> > > Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
> > did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely acceptable
> Only In certain places, usually a beach, NOT on city streets and they
> don't tolerate men sucking each other off in public any more than sane
> USA cities.
In the United States, who is Very Behind in the Idea!
The Anal Retentive Mother Fuckers want to Alter the Constitution for others while they swear to be
defending it for themselves!
Constitution Forbids Government to Define terms of a Contract between Private Parties!
And as I see it Marriage is a "CONTRACT"!
> >>>>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
> >>>>> inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
> >>>>> public??
> >>>>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
> >>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
> >>>>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
> >>>>> sexual subcultures''
> >>>>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
> >>>>> people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who don't
> >>>>> want to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
> >>>>> sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
> >>>>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed
> >>>>> its image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
> >>>>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that
> >>>>> would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that
> >>>>> represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted
> >>>>> group of men who strut their stuff through the city's famously
> >>>>> gay Castro District and the supervisor who represents the area.
> >>>>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
> >>>>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum
> >>>>> or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street median,
> >>>>> parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
> >>>>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but
> >>>>> prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a
> >>>>> misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail.
> >>>>> Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
> >>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
> >>>>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
> >>>>> sexual subcultures.
> >>>>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
> >>>>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked men
> >>>>> who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk
> >>>>> the streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to
> >>>>> pass a law requiring a cloth to be placed between public seating
> >>>>> and bare rears, yet the complaints
> >>>>> Advertisement
> >>>>> have continued.
> >>>>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and
> >>>>> hanging out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is
> >>>>> really what San Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of
> >>>>> what San Francisco is about," Wiener said.
> >>>>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
> >>>>> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of
> >>>>> City Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking
> >>>>> tourists and high school students on a field trip.
> >>>>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett,
> >>>>> 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer
> >>>>> not to see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices
> >>>>> sported by some of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's
> >>>>> prohibition goes too far in undermining a tradition "that keeps
> >>>>> San Francisco weird."
> >>>>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of
> >>>>> us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a
> >>>>> light and show what true nudity is all about so people can
> >>>>> separate the difference between what a nudist is and an
> >>>>> exhibitionist is."
> >>>>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
> >>>>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
> >>>>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what
> >>>>> happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a
> >>>>> committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing.
> >>>>> Taub, a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while
> >>>>> hosting a local cable program devoted to the theory that the
> >>>>> government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
> >>>>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
> >>>>> listen," she said.
> >>>>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit
> >>>>> last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block
> >>>>> Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee.
> >>>>> The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech
> >>>>> rights of nudists and discriminates against those who cannot
> >>>>> afford to obtain a city permit.
> >>>>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not
> >>>>> already illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not
> >>>>> have local nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately
> >>>>> covered by state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But
> >>>>> indecent exposure technically only applies to lewd behavior, so
> >>>>> city officials have had to craft a local solution, he said,
> >>>>> adding that the cities of Berkeley and San Jose already have done
> >>>>> so.
> >>>>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently
> >>>>> have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked every
> >>>>> day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
> >>>> did you post this while you were naked
> >>> Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
> >> did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely
> >> acceptable
> > Only In certain places, usually a beach, NOT on city streets and they
> > don't tolerate men sucking each other off in public any more than sane
> > USA cities.
> in canada women can go topless anywhere they please ,
> although most of them don't and the ones that do make you wish they didn't ,
> there are parks where men do what they do but they try to keep it in the
> bushes ,
> its not legal as yet but i imagine it won't be long after all they're
> married
> > >>>>> It's about time they cleaned up Sodom and Gomorrah. We still are
> > >>>>> inclined to ask WHY do the cocksuckers feel the need to disrobe in
> > >>>>> public??
> > >>>>> ''Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
> > >>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
> > >>>>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
> > >>>>> sexual subcultures''
> > >>>>> Why make exemptions for the most degenerate of the homo's? These
> > >>>>> people are starting to catch the ire of decent citizens who don't
> > >>>>> want to see them flaunting their immorality blatantly by
> > >>>>> sucking dicks and ass-fucking in public.
> > >>>>> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- San Francisco may be getting ready to shed
> > >>>>> its image as a city where anything goes, including clothing.
> > >>>>> City lawmakers are scheduled to vote Tuesday on an ordinance that
> > >>>>> would prohibit nudity in most public places, a blanket ban that
> > >>>>> represents an escalation of a two-year tiff between a devoted
> > >>>>> group of men who strut their stuff through the city's famously
> > >>>>> gay Castro District and the supervisor who represents the area.
> > >>>>> Supervisor Scott Wiener's proposal would make it illegal for a
> > >>>>> person over the age of 5 to "expose his or her genitals, perineum
> > >>>>> or anal region on any public street, sidewalk, street median,
> > >>>>> parklet or plaza" or while using public transit.
> > >>>>> A first offense would carry a maximum penalty of a $100 fine, but
> > >>>>> prosecutors would have authority to charge a third violation as a
> > >>>>> misdemeanor punishable by up to a $500 fine and a year in jail.
> > >>>>> Exemptions would be made for participants at permitted street
> > >>>>> fairs and parades, such as the city's annual gay pride event and
> > >>>>> the Folsom Street Fair, which celebrates sadomasochism and other
> > >>>>> sexual subcultures.
> > >>>>> Wiener said he resisted introducing the ordinance, but felt
> > >>>>> compelled to act after constituents complained about the naked men
> > >>>>> who gather in a small Castro plaza most days and sometimes walk
> > >>>>> the streets au naturel. He persuaded his colleagues last year to
> > >>>>> pass a law requiring a cloth to be placed between public seating
> > >>>>> and bare rears, yet the complaints
> > >>>>> Advertisement
> > >>>>> have continued.
> > >>>>> "I don't think having some guys taking their clothes off and
> > >>>>> hanging out seven days a week at Castro and Market Street is
> > >>>>> really what San Francisco is about. I think it's a caricature of
> > >>>>> what San Francisco is about," Wiener said.
> > >>>>> The proposed ban predictably has produced outrage, as well as a
> > >>>>> lawsuit. Last week, about two dozen people disrobed in front of
> > >>>>> City Hall and marched around the block to the amusement of gawking
> > >>>>> tourists and high school students on a field trip.
> > >>>>> Stripped down to his sunglasses and hiking boots, McCray Winpsett,
> > >>>>> 37, said he understands the disgust of residents who would prefer
> > >>>>> not to see the body modifications and sex enhancement devices
> > >>>>> sported by some of the Castro nudists. But he thinks Wiener's
> > >>>>> prohibition goes too far in undermining a tradition "that keeps
> > >>>>> San Francisco weird."
> > >>>>> "A few lewd exhibitionists are really ruining it for the rest of
> > >>>>> us," he said. "It's my time to come out now to present myself in a
> > >>>>> light and show what true nudity is all about so people can
> > >>>>> separate the difference between what a nudist is and an
> > >>>>> exhibitionist is."
> > >>>>> Because clothes are required to enter City Hall itself,
> > >>>>> demonstrators who try to disrobe at the Board of Supervisors
> > >>>>> meeting will be escorted out by sheriff's deputies. That is what
> > >>>>> happened last Monday when Gypsy Taub removed her dress at a
> > >>>>> committee hearing where the ban had its first public hearing.
> > >>>>> Taub, a mother of two, said she got her start as a nudist while
> > >>>>> hosting a local cable program devoted to the theory that the
> > >>>>> government was behind the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
> > >>>>> "I thought if I take my clothes off, I bet they are going to
> > >>>>> listen," she said.
> > >>>>> San Francisco lawyer Christina DiEdoardo filed a federal lawsuit
> > >>>>> last week on behalf of Taub and three men that seeks to block
> > >>>>> Weiner's ordinance, if it passes and is signed by Mayor Edwin Lee.
> > >>>>> The complaint alleges that the ban infringes on the free speech
> > >>>>> rights of nudists and discriminates against those who cannot
> > >>>>> afford to obtain a city permit.
> > >>>>> While it may seem strange that going out in the buff is not
> > >>>>> already illegal in San Francisco, most California cities do not
> > >>>>> have local nudity laws, Wiener said. Instead, they are adequately
> > >>>>> covered by state indecent exposure laws and societal mores. But
> > >>>>> indecent exposure technically only applies to lewd behavior, so
> > >>>>> city officials have had to craft a local solution, he said,
> > >>>>> adding that the cities of Berkeley and San Jose already have done
> > >>>>> so.
> > >>>>> "I suspect there are a lot of places that maybe don't currently
> > >>>>> have a local law (and) that if people started getting naked every
> > >>>>> day would quickly see a local law," Wiener said.
> > >>>> did you post this while you were naked
> > >>> Nope, but even if I did I would be in the privacy of my own home.
> > >> did you know that public nudity in east europe is completely
> > >> acceptable
> > > Only In certain places, usually a beach, NOT on city streets and they
> > > don't tolerate men sucking each other off in public any more than sane
> > > USA cities.
> > in canada women can go topless anywhere they please ,
> > although most of them don't and the ones that do make you wish they didn't ,
> > there are parks where men do what they do but they try to keep it in the
> > bushes ,
> > its not legal as yet but i imagine it won't be long after all they're
> > married
> There are places like that here also. Parks, rest stops and of course
> the XXX bookstores w/peepshows in the back.
> i don't really care who does what if ,
> they're old enough to consent and i don't have to see and ,
> on the flip side i have no interest in being watched
Which is all we ask or expect!
We are not the ones invading Your World, with our Fabricated Dogma, just to Hunt you out of existence!
Discussion subject changed to "NOMINATION: bobandcarole for the 20th Century Fox 8-Track MindAward for November, 2012 (was Re: Public nudity ban eyed in fed-up SanFrancisco)" by Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
From: "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole" <laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:04:36 -0900
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 1:04 am
Subject: Re: NOMINATION: bobandcarole for the 20th Century Fox 8-Track MindAward for November, 2012 (was Re: Public nudity ban eyed in fed-up SanFrancisco)
> > That's the problem right there. They are getting uppity and forcing
> > their depravity on everybody. They feel like sucking shit off of a mans
> > dick or sucking cum outta his stinking ass is "normal'' and rates
> > special merits and privileges like recognizing their unholy and
> > sacrilegious "marriage'' rituals. In essence they are forcing everybody
> > to watch....
> How so? They're not, for the most part, actually doing their sex acts in
> public places ... and for those few who do, there are probably at least
> as many heterosexual exhibitionists.
No Probably Twice as many if not 3 Times as Many Hetrosexuals, use the Glory Hole Escape Route to go home
to their Wife!
