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 More options Sep 5 2008, 5:38 pm
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: "jerry_fried...@yahoo.com" <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:38:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Sep 5 2008 5:38 pm
Subject: Re: Gobsmacked
On Sep 5, 1:23 pm, "James Silverton" <not.jim.silver...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>  John  wrote  on Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:36:53 +0100:

> > Django Cat wrote:
> >> On 5 Sep, 02:38, Dan Leifker <dleif...@leifker.com> wrote:
> >>> I came across a delicious BrE word today:gobsmacked. Never heard
> >>> it before. The context was something about Alaskans being
> >>>gobsmackedby the speed of Sarah Palin's rise in the U.S.
> >>> politics.

> >>> It appears thatgobsmacked, meaning utterly astonished, is
> >>> fixed as a past participle. Can you use it in other tenses,
> >>> something like "His answer would gobsmack anyone"?

> >>> dleifker

> >> While universally used, 'gobsmacked' is originally scouse.
> > I'll concede 'northern'.
> > Partridge doesn't even have it [1]. Cassell's does and, like
> > OED, can peg it no further back than the 80s. It's one of
> > those words I seem to have been hearing forever, particularly in my
> > Manchester home.

> The OED's earliest reference is to the Guardian in 1985 . To tell the
> truth, I thought the word was Irish but "gob" for mouth has long been
> used in NE England and Scotland, particularly as part of an injunction
> to close it.

Here's an antedating from 1956:

"I'm so amazed that only the Malderbury dialect can express my
condition: I'm 'properly gob-smacked.'"

Jack Reynolds, /A Woman of Bangkok/, Ballantine, 1956, p. 46.

http://books.google.com/books?id=wqMqAAAAMAAJ&q=%22gob+smacked%22+dat...

or <http://tinyurl.com/65mpr9>.

Malderbury is too small for Wikipedia, which I think means very small
indeed, but the one Google Web hit places it in Wiltshire.  (There's a
Google Books hit on Malderbury, which rather than confirming its
reality is from a discussion of /A Woman of Bangkok/ from the book /
Sites of Desire, Economies of Pleasure/.  "Examining a world of erotic
encounter between European, Asian, and Pacific people, these essays
explore how sexual practices and sexual meanings have been constructed
across cultural borders in Thailand, the Philippines, Burma/Myanmar,
Japan, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, and the Polynesian islands.")

--
Jerry Friedman

--
Jerry Friedman


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