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Adam Funk
Nov 6, 2012, 5:48:18 PM11/6/12
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Headline: Morris dancers told to move on by police for 'offensive
dance routine'
A group of Morris dancers has been told to take their
sticks, bells and handkerchiefs elsewhere as their routines
were ‘offensive’.
The 15 members of the Wild Hunt Bedlam Morris team were halfway
through their show outside a pub when police arrived to tell them
to ‘stop making a din’ as they’d had a complaint from a neighbour.
After a quick chat, the dancers were moved on in the ‘interest of
community relations’.
However, one of their number, David Young, has hit back, saying
they were treated like ‘yobs’.
The 69-year-old said: ‘The way it all happened, you would have
thought it was a BNP or KKK meeting.
‘It’s the first time we’ve encountered anything like it.
‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
The audience of about 30 at The White Lion in Warlingham, Surrey
were equally stunned by the jig being stopped last Tuesday night.
Martin Saunders, 54, said he was ‘appalled’ by the officers’ actions.
‘The police came along and told them to move on as they were
upsetting neighbours with their offensive dance routine,’ he said.
‘The officers were a little shame-faced about it all, but really
they should have just let the dancing continue – it was only just
after 9pm.’
Surrey Police said they had received a report of ‘noisy revellers’
outside the pub.
In August last year, a group of Morris dancers was ordered out of a
pub in Co Durham after a barmaid said the bells on their shoes
broke the bar’s music ban.
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/917040-morris-dancers-told-to-move-on-by-police-for-offensive-dance-routine
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The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to
chance. [Robert R. Coveyou]
dance routine'
A group of Morris dancers has been told to take their
sticks, bells and handkerchiefs elsewhere as their routines
were ‘offensive’.
The 15 members of the Wild Hunt Bedlam Morris team were halfway
through their show outside a pub when police arrived to tell them
to ‘stop making a din’ as they’d had a complaint from a neighbour.
After a quick chat, the dancers were moved on in the ‘interest of
community relations’.
However, one of their number, David Young, has hit back, saying
they were treated like ‘yobs’.
The 69-year-old said: ‘The way it all happened, you would have
thought it was a BNP or KKK meeting.
‘It’s the first time we’ve encountered anything like it.
‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
The audience of about 30 at The White Lion in Warlingham, Surrey
were equally stunned by the jig being stopped last Tuesday night.
Martin Saunders, 54, said he was ‘appalled’ by the officers’ actions.
‘The police came along and told them to move on as they were
upsetting neighbours with their offensive dance routine,’ he said.
‘The officers were a little shame-faced about it all, but really
they should have just let the dancing continue – it was only just
after 9pm.’
Surrey Police said they had received a report of ‘noisy revellers’
outside the pub.
In August last year, a group of Morris dancers was ordered out of a
pub in Co Durham after a barmaid said the bells on their shoes
broke the bar’s music ban.
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/917040-morris-dancers-told-to-move-on-by-police-for-offensive-dance-routine
--
The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to
chance. [Robert R. Coveyou]
Harrison Hill
Nov 6, 2012, 6:33:49 PM11/6/12
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understanding that their music is never amplified. The "Wild Hunt
Bedlam Morris" company use a lot of very loud shouting, and I think
that may have been confused with disorderly conduct :)
Abzorba's very own Laura works close to the spot Cecil Sharp
rediscovered and saved for the nation "Morris Dancing"; but to my mind
it is tawdry and right up there with "ole 'obby horse" and (its modern
equivalent) Halloween.
Harrison Hill
Nov 6, 2012, 6:39:07 PM11/6/12
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record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
incited violence?
Les Cargill
Nov 6, 2012, 7:10:13 PM11/6/12
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"Rumble", by Link Wray.
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Les Cargill
Harrison Hill
Nov 6, 2012, 7:14:38 PM11/6/12
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R H Draney
Nov 6, 2012, 11:31:51 PM11/6/12
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Adam Funk filted:
some new members of the group that the sticks, bells, handkerchiefs and other
attributes were in fact all meant to represent penises....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
>
>Headline: Morris dancers told to move on by police for 'offensive
> dance routine'
> A group of Morris dancers has been told to take their
> sticks, bells and handkerchiefs elsewhere as their routines
> were ‘offensive’.
Pause to recall the Morris routine on "Alfresco" where Hugh Laurie explained to
>Headline: Morris dancers told to move on by police for 'offensive
> dance routine'
> A group of Morris dancers has been told to take their
> sticks, bells and handkerchiefs elsewhere as their routines
> were ‘offensive’.
some new members of the group that the sticks, bells, handkerchiefs and other
attributes were in fact all meant to represent penises....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Mike Barnes
Nov 7, 2012, 2:11:09 AM11/7/12
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Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com>:
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Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
>QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
>record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>incited violence?
Rumble, by Link Wray? (from memory, not research)
>record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>incited violence?
--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
Athel Cornish-Bowden
Nov 7, 2012, 3:49:33 AM11/7/12
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kerchiefs rather than handkerchiefs.)
--
athel
Mark Edwards
Nov 7, 2012, 9:22:09 AM11/7/12
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No cluons were harmed when Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com>
wrote:
--
Proof of sanity forged upon request
wrote:
> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
> incited violence?
I believe it was 4'33"
> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
> incited violence?
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Proof of sanity forged upon request
Whiskers
Nov 7, 2012, 1:06:00 PM11/7/12
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[cross-posting removed]
On 2012-11-06, Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
> incited violence?
The Battle Hymn of the Republic / Mine eyes have seen the Glory / John
Brown's body?
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
On 2012-11-06, Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
> incited violence?
Brown's body?
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
R H Draney
Nov 7, 2012, 3:25:28 PM11/7/12
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Whiskers filted:
>
>[cross-posting removed]
>On 2012-11-06, Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
>> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>> incited violence?
>
>The Battle Hymn of the Republic / Mine eyes have seen the Glory / John
>Brown's body?
The 19th century version of "Lili Marlene"....r
>[cross-posting removed]
>On 2012-11-06, Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
>> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>> incited violence?
>
>The Battle Hymn of the Republic / Mine eyes have seen the Glory / John
>Brown's body?
Whiskers
Nov 7, 2012, 5:04:58 PM11/7/12
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in WWII, in Europe. I can't imagine it inciting violence, so much as
home-sickness or nostalgia.
Les Cargill
Nov 7, 2012, 6:23:39 PM11/7/12
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Mark Edwards wrote:
> No cluons were harmed when Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
>> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>> incited violence?
>
> I believe it was 4'33"
>
"Tonight" from West Side Story.
> No cluons were harmed when Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
>> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>> incited violence?
>
> I believe it was 4'33"
>
--
Les Cargill
Robert Bannister
Nov 7, 2012, 7:41:45 PM11/7/12
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music till the late 30s.
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Robert Bannister
Robert Bannister
Nov 7, 2012, 7:43:00 PM11/7/12
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On 7/11/12 4:49 PM, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2012-11-07 04:31:51 +0000, R H Draney said:
>
>> Adam Funk filted:
>>>
>>> Headline: Morris dancers told to move on by police for 'offensive
>>> dance routine'
>>> A group of Morris dancers has been told to take their
>>> sticks, bells and handkerchiefs elsewhere as their routines
>>> were ‘offensive’.
> On 2012-11-07 04:31:51 +0000, R H Draney said:
>
>> Adam Funk filted:
>>>
>>> Headline: Morris dancers told to move on by police for 'offensive
>>> dance routine'
>>> A group of Morris dancers has been told to take their
>>> sticks, bells and handkerchiefs elsewhere as their routines
>>
>> Pause to recall the Morris routine on "Alfresco" where Hugh Laurie
>> explained to
>> some new members of the group that the sticks, bells, handkerchiefs
>> and other
>> attributes were in fact all meant to represent penises....r
>
> Sticks, OK; bells, maybe; but handkerchiefs? (Actually I think they're
> kerchiefs rather than handkerchiefs.)
>
We call them "wavers". They are quite a bit larger than the average
>> Pause to recall the Morris routine on "Alfresco" where Hugh Laurie
>> explained to
>> some new members of the group that the sticks, bells, handkerchiefs
>> and other
>> attributes were in fact all meant to represent penises....r
>
> Sticks, OK; bells, maybe; but handkerchiefs? (Actually I think they're
> kerchiefs rather than handkerchiefs.)
>
handkerchief.
--
Robert Bannister
Perth Morris Men
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Guy Barry
Nov 8, 2012, 2:13:09 AM11/8/12
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"Les Cargill" wrote in message news:k7eqhp$vrk$3...@dont-email.me...
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Guy Barry
Nick Spalding
Nov 8, 2012, 6:50:27 AM11/8/12
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Whiskers wrote, in
<slrnk9lmoa.5...@ID-107770.user.individual.net>
on Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:04:58 +0000:
Lale Anderson, not Marlene Dietrich, according to:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DXruigKRRc>
"Uploaded by hackatac on Sep 15, 2008
Lili Marlene by Lale Anderson - Original 1942 version
Often wrongly credited to Marlene Dietrich, by me too till I knew :)"
According to Denis Johnston in "Nine Rivers from Jordan".
This recording was played every night by the radio station that the
Afrika Korps listened to and the Eighth Army listened in as well.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
<slrnk9lmoa.5...@ID-107770.user.individual.net>
on Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:04:58 +0000:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DXruigKRRc>
"Uploaded by hackatac on Sep 15, 2008
Lili Marlene by Lale Anderson - Original 1942 version
Often wrongly credited to Marlene Dietrich, by me too till I knew :)"
According to Denis Johnston in "Nine Rivers from Jordan".
This recording was played every night by the radio station that the
Afrika Korps listened to and the Eighth Army listened in as well.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
Les Cargill
Nov 8, 2012, 8:22:31 AM11/8/12
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Les Cargill
Guy Barry
Nov 8, 2012, 9:07:49 AM11/8/12
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"Les Cargill" wrote in message news:k7gbmm$pq6$1...@dont-email.me...
> Guy Barry wrote:
>
>
> > "Les Cargill" wrote in message news:k7eqhp$vrk$3...@dont-email.me...
> >> "Tonight" from West Side Story.
>
> > No words at all?
>
> Vanishingly few actual words.
There seem to be enough of them here:
>
> > No words at all?
>
> Vanishingly few actual words.
http://www.westsidestory.com/site/level2/lyrics/tonight.html
--
Guy Barry
Whiskers
Nov 8, 2012, 4:21:45 PM11/8/12
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On 2012-11-08, Lewis <g.k...@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> In message <slrnk9l8o8.p...@ID-107770.user.individual.net>
To the same tune - which can be, and often is, played without anyone
singing or being expected to. Hearing the tune might well annoy anyone who
isn't entirely happy with the conduct or result of what we over here refer
to as 'The American Civil War'.
> In message <slrnk9l8o8.p...@ID-107770.user.individual.net>
> Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote:
>> [cross-posting removed]
>> On 2012-11-06, Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [...]
>
>>> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
>>> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>>> incited violence?
>
>> The Battle Hymn of the Republic / Mine eyes have seen the Glory / John
>> Brown's body?
>
> Those all have words.
>> [cross-posting removed]
>> On 2012-11-06, Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> [...]
>
>>> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
>>> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>>> incited violence?
>
>> The Battle Hymn of the Republic / Mine eyes have seen the Glory / John
>> Brown's body?
>
To the same tune - which can be, and often is, played without anyone
singing or being expected to. Hearing the tune might well annoy anyone who
isn't entirely happy with the conduct or result of what we over here refer
to as 'The American Civil War'.
Whiskers
Nov 8, 2012, 5:44:24 PM11/8/12
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On 2012-11-08, Nick Spalding <spal...@iol.ie> wrote:
> Whiskers wrote, in
> <slrnk9lmoa.5...@ID-107770.user.individual.net>
> on Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:04:58 +0000:
>
>> On 2012-11-07, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>> > Whiskers filted:
>> >>
>> >>[cross-posting removed]
>> >>On 2012-11-06, Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>[...]
>> >>
>> >>> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
>> >>> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>> >>> incited violence?
>> >>
>> >>The Battle Hymn of the Republic / Mine eyes have seen the Glory / John
>> >>Brown's body?
>> >
>> > The 19th century version of "Lili Marlene"....r
>>
>> That one, and Marlene Dietrich, were popular with the troops on both sides
>> in WWII, in Europe. I can't imagine it inciting violence, so much as
>> home-sickness or nostalgia.
>
> Lale Anderson, not Marlene Dietrich, according to:
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DXruigKRRc>
>
> "Uploaded by hackatac on Sep 15, 2008
>
> Lili Marlene by Lale Anderson - Original 1942 version
Thanks for introducing a singer I hadn't heard, or heard of, before.
> Whiskers wrote, in
> <slrnk9lmoa.5...@ID-107770.user.individual.net>
> on Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:04:58 +0000:
>
>> On 2012-11-07, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>> > Whiskers filted:
>> >>
>> >>[cross-posting removed]
>> >>On 2012-11-06, Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>[...]
>> >>
>> >>> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
>> >>> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>> >>> incited violence?
>> >>
>> >>The Battle Hymn of the Republic / Mine eyes have seen the Glory / John
>> >>Brown's body?
>> >
>> > The 19th century version of "Lili Marlene"....r
>>
>> That one, and Marlene Dietrich, were popular with the troops on both sides
>> in WWII, in Europe. I can't imagine it inciting violence, so much as
>> home-sickness or nostalgia.
>
> Lale Anderson, not Marlene Dietrich, according to:
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DXruigKRRc>
>
> "Uploaded by hackatac on Sep 15, 2008
>
> Lili Marlene by Lale Anderson - Original 1942 version
Wikipedia dates the original Lale Anderson recording to 1939, and that it
was a frequent item on the German Forces radio station broadcasting from
Belgrade following the 1941 invasion.
> Often wrongly credited to Marlene Dietrich, by me too till I knew :)"
>
> According to Denis Johnston in "Nine Rivers from Jordan".
>
> This recording was played every night by the radio station that the
> Afrika Korps listened to and the Eighth Army listened in as well.
- first performed “Lili Marlene” during North Africa U.S.O. tour, 1943;
- performed over 500 times before Allied troops, 1943-46;
That site also says she recorded the song for OSS propaganda broadcasts to
Germany, in 1944. Wikipedia credits it to the Decca label.
I believe this is her original recording <http://youtu.be/8jrfluDC9AA>
(good pictures too, for Dietrich fans). That's certainly the one I grew up
with. Much sexier than Anderson's gentle rendition.
Robin Bignall
Nov 8, 2012, 7:19:20 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:44:24 +0000, Whiskers <catwh...@operamail.com>
wrote:
That's the one I remember, too. I would have been too young to
appreciate the earlier version.
--
Robin Bignall
(BrE)
Herts, England
wrote:
appreciate the earlier version.
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Robin Bignall
(BrE)
Herts, England
Robert Bannister
Nov 8, 2012, 7:47:44 PM11/8/12
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Germans. It became such a hit with both sides that the allied troops
started singing it and they were singing it in German. Authorities on
both sides were so concerned that Lale was stopped, and in the west an
English translation was called for. Dietrich made the definitive
recording in English which helped put a stop to that.
--
Robert Bannister
John Holmes
Nov 9, 2012, 4:25:42 AM11/9/12
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Lewis wrote:
> In message <imgom9x...@news.ducksburg.com>
>
> Get the rope.
Be careful you don't hang the Archbishop of Canterbury. Bad karma.
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John
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> In message <imgom9x...@news.ducksburg.com>
> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>> Headline: Morris dancers told to move on by police for 'offensive
>> dance routine'
>> A group of Morris dancers has been told to take their
>> sticks, bells and handkerchiefs elsewhere as their routines
>> were ‘offensive’.
>
> Seems perfectly reasonable.
>> Headline: Morris dancers told to move on by police for 'offensive
>> dance routine'
>> A group of Morris dancers has been told to take their
>> sticks, bells and handkerchiefs elsewhere as their routines
>> were ‘offensive’.
>
>
>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
>> business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>
> OIL EXECUTIVES?!
>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
>> business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>
>
> Get the rope.
Be careful you don't hang the Archbishop of Canterbury. Bad karma.
--
Regards
John
for mail: my initials plus a u e
at tpg dot com dot au
Eric Walker
Nov 9, 2012, 4:51:49 AM11/9/12
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:48:18 +0000, Adam Funk wrote:
[...]
> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives, business
> owners and a school secretary in our group.’
I am unacquainted with the substance "ex-oil", and certainly did not
realize that there is (apparently) an industry that deals in it.
--
Cordially,
Eric Walker
[...]
> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives, business
> owners and a school secretary in our group.’
realize that there is (apparently) an industry that deals in it.
--
Cordially,
Eric Walker
Robin Bignall
Nov 9, 2012, 12:00:54 PM11/9/12
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Jerry Friedman
Nov 9, 2012, 2:47:29 PM11/9/12
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Jerry Friedman
Paul Wolff
Nov 9, 2012, 3:06:00 PM11/9/12
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In message
<96937a3a-d512-4935...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> writes
Bishop Justin Welby, ecclesiastically Justin Dunelm and officially named
today as the next Archbishop of Canterbury, was formerly an oil company
executive.
Appropriately, the news of his appointment was widely leaked.
--
Paul
<96937a3a-d512-4935...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> writes
today as the next Archbishop of Canterbury, was formerly an oil company
executive.
Appropriately, the news of his appointment was widely leaked.
--
Paul
Whiskers
Nov 9, 2012, 2:46:43 PM11/9/12
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Belgrade later picked up the record to fill air time, making the song
popular all over Europe and north Africa.
> It became such a hit with both sides that the allied troops
> started singing it and they were singing it in German. Authorities on
> both sides were so concerned that Lale was stopped,
their worries about a popular song. Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Marlene>
claims that Göbbels ordered the broadcasts to stop but was forced to
reconsider the ban when Axis troops demanded to hear it. I suspect he
disliked it because its sentimental nature might undermine troop morale,
but the troops demonstrated that its effect was the opposite.
> and in the west
"In the west"? That's an American expression dating from their
anti-communist propaganda during the post-war Soviet era; in the context of
1941 "both sides" were "the west".
> an
> English translation was called for. Dietrich made the definitive
> recording in English which helped put a stop to that.
alternative words were (and probably still are) invented by servicemen, in
many languages and probably not related to the original verses in any way.
Any good camp-fire or marching tune shares that fate.
Adam Funk
Nov 9, 2012, 3:54:33 PM11/9/12
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On 2012-11-09, John Holmes wrote:
> Lewis wrote:
--
The three-martini lunch is the epitome of American efficiency.
Where else can you get an earful, a bellyful and a snootful at
the same time? [Gerald Ford, 1978]
> Lewis wrote:
>> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
>>> business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>>
>> OIL EXECUTIVES?!
>>
>> Get the rope.
>
> Be careful you don't hang the Archbishop of Canterbury. Bad karma.
I get the impression he's a reformed oil executive.
>>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
>>> business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>>
>> OIL EXECUTIVES?!
>>
>> Get the rope.
>
> Be careful you don't hang the Archbishop of Canterbury. Bad karma.
--
The three-martini lunch is the epitome of American efficiency.
Where else can you get an earful, a bellyful and a snootful at
the same time? [Gerald Ford, 1978]
Adam Funk
Nov 9, 2012, 3:55:14 PM11/9/12
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--
The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to
chance. [Robert R. Coveyou]
Jerry Friedman
Nov 9, 2012, 4:48:14 PM11/9/12
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On Nov 9, 1:12 pm, Paul Wolff <bounc...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
> In message
> <96937a3a-d512-4935-9a5b-eac8ef810...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> Jerry Friedman <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com> writes
in his sig, I finally looked it up. The University of Durham. Of
course.
> and officially named
> today as the next Archbishop of Canterbury, was formerly an oil company
> executive.
>
> Appropriately, the news of his appointment was widely leaked.
Had the Church floated it first?
--
Jerry Friedman
> In message
> <96937a3a-d512-4935-9a5b-eac8ef810...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> Jerry Friedman <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com> writes
>
> >On Nov 9, 2:51 am, Eric Walker <em...@owlcroft.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:48:18 +0000, Adam Funk wrote:
>
> >> > ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives, business
> >> > owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>
> >> I am unacquainted with the substance "ex-oil", and certainly did not
> >> realize that there is (apparently) an industry that deals in it.
>
> >You and I might call it "plastic".
>
> Bishop Justin Welby, ecclesiastically Justin Dunelm
After noticing that that word occurs in Steve Hayes's e-mail address
> >On Nov 9, 2:51 am, Eric Walker <em...@owlcroft.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:48:18 +0000, Adam Funk wrote:
>
> >> > ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives, business
> >> > owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>
> >> I am unacquainted with the substance "ex-oil", and certainly did not
> >> realize that there is (apparently) an industry that deals in it.
>
> >You and I might call it "plastic".
>
> Bishop Justin Welby, ecclesiastically Justin Dunelm
in his sig, I finally looked it up. The University of Durham. Of
course.
> and officially named
> today as the next Archbishop of Canterbury, was formerly an oil company
> executive.
>
> Appropriately, the news of his appointment was widely leaked.
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Nov 9, 2012, 5:06:21 PM11/9/12
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 20:06:00 -0000, Paul Wolff <boun...@two.wolff.co.uk>
wrote:
He wasn't anywhere near the Gulf of Mexico when this happened?
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Nov 9, 2012, 5:27:27 PM11/9/12
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In message
<3c55745f-7441-4e22...@o8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> writes
into my post. So I didn't.
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<3c55745f-7441-4e22...@o8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Jerry Friedman <jerry_f...@yahoo.com> writes
>On Nov 9, 1:12 pm, Paul Wolff <bounc...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Bishop Justin Welby, ecclesiastically Justin Dunelm
>
>After noticing that that word occurs in Steve Hayes's e-mail address
>in his sig, I finally looked it up. The University of Durham. Of
>course.
I couldn't figure out a natural way to bring Steve and his alma mater
>>
>> Bishop Justin Welby, ecclesiastically Justin Dunelm
>
>After noticing that that word occurs in Steve Hayes's e-mail address
>in his sig, I finally looked it up. The University of Durham. Of
>course.
into my post. So I didn't.
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Robert Bannister
Nov 9, 2012, 5:51:34 PM11/9/12
to
I have got used to "west" or "western" referring to America and Britain
as well as Australia, New Zealand and sometimes South Africa. It appears
to have lost its geographical meaning.
>> an
>> English translation was called for. Dietrich made the definitive
>> recording in English which helped put a stop to that.
>
> Not until 1944 when Hollywood made a movie. Of course, numerous
> alternative words were (and probably still are) invented by servicemen, in
> many languages and probably not related to the original verses in any way.
> Any good camp-fire or marching tune shares that fate.
>
the song in English. This is an even worse translation. I do not
recommend listening to more than a few seconds of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0P_m7SZBvQ
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Mike Barnes
Nov 9, 2012, 6:54:00 PM11/9/12
to
Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com>:
--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
>On 2012-11-09, John Holmes wrote:
>
>> Lewis wrote:
>>> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
>>>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
>>>> business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>>>
>>> OIL EXECUTIVES?!
>>>
>>> Get the rope.
>>
>> Be careful you don't hang the Archbishop of Canterbury. Bad karma.
>
>I get the impression he's a reformed oil executive.
I think you've got it cracked.
>
>> Lewis wrote:
>>> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
>>>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
>>>> business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>>>
>>> OIL EXECUTIVES?!
>>>
>>> Get the rope.
>>
>> Be careful you don't hang the Archbishop of Canterbury. Bad karma.
>
>I get the impression he's a reformed oil executive.
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David DeLaney
Nov 10, 2012, 12:18:47 AM11/10/12
to
Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>On 2012-11-09, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>> On Nov 9, 2:51 am, Eric Walker <em...@owlcroft.com> wrote:
>>> I am unacquainted with the substance "ex-oil", and certainly did not
>>> realize that there is (apparently) an industry that deals in it.
>>
>> You and I might call it "plastic".
>
>It's not practical to turn it back into dinosaurs.
Sure it is! ...Just, you know, not fully-articulated ones, or life-size.
>On 2012-11-09, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>> On Nov 9, 2:51 am, Eric Walker <em...@owlcroft.com> wrote:
>>> I am unacquainted with the substance "ex-oil", and certainly did not
>>> realize that there is (apparently) an industry that deals in it.
>>
>> You and I might call it "plastic".
>
>It's not practical to turn it back into dinosaurs.
Dave, but we can do inflatable
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Les Cargill
Nov 10, 2012, 2:13:23 AM11/10/12
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Guy Barry wrote:
>
>
> "Les Cargill" wrote in message news:k7gbmm$pq6$1...@dont-email.me...
>> Guy Barry wrote:
>>
>>
>> > "Les Cargill" wrote in message news:k7eqhp$vrk$3...@dont-email.me...
>
>> >> "Tonight" from West Side Story.
>>
>> > No words at all?
>>
>
>
>> Vanishingly few actual words.
>
> There seem to be enough of them here:
>
> http://www.westsidestory.com/site/level2/lyrics/tonight.html
>
Those are free-range, information-bereft words. It's still
>
>
> "Les Cargill" wrote in message news:k7gbmm$pq6$1...@dont-email.me...
>> Guy Barry wrote:
>>
>>
>> > "Les Cargill" wrote in message news:k7eqhp$vrk$3...@dont-email.me...
>
>> >> "Tonight" from West Side Story.
>>
>> > No words at all?
>>
>
>
>> Vanishingly few actual words.
>
> There seem to be enough of them here:
>
> http://www.westsidestory.com/site/level2/lyrics/tonight.html
>
an instrumental.
Seriously, that's the biggest load of crap anybody ever successfully
pawned off on anybody. The musical did not survive the death of Richard
Rogers.
Miiiiiidnite, and the kitties are sleeeeeeeping,
down by the fuuuuuuurnace, while birdies are cheeeeping.
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Nick Spalding
Nov 10, 2012, 5:46:32 AM11/10/12
to
Jerry Friedman wrote, in
<3c55745f-7441-4e22...@o8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>
on Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:48:14 -0800 (PST):
> On Nov 9, 1:12 pm, Paul Wolff <bounc...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
> > In message
> > <96937a3a-d512-4935-9a5b-eac8ef810...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Jerry Friedman <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com> writes
> >
> > >On Nov 9, 2:51 am, Eric Walker <em...@owlcroft.com> wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:48:18 +0000, Adam Funk wrote:
> >
> > >> > ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives, business
> > >> > owners and a school secretary in our group.’
> >
> > >> I am unacquainted with the substance "ex-oil", and certainly did not
> > >> realize that there is (apparently) an industry that deals in it.
> >
> > >You and I might call it "plastic".
> >
> > Bishop Justin Welby, ecclesiastically Justin Dunelm
>
> After noticing that that word occurs in Steve Hayes's e-mail address
> in his sig, I finally looked it up. The University of Durham. Of
> course.
In this context the Diocese of Durham.
> > and officially named
> > today as the next Archbishop of Canterbury, was formerly an oil company
> > executive.
> >
> > Appropriately, the news of his appointment was widely leaked.
>
> Had the Church floated it first?
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BrE/IrE
<3c55745f-7441-4e22...@o8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>
on Fri, 9 Nov 2012 13:48:14 -0800 (PST):
> On Nov 9, 1:12 pm, Paul Wolff <bounc...@two.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
> > In message
> > <96937a3a-d512-4935-9a5b-eac8ef810...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> > Jerry Friedman <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com> writes
> >
> > >On Nov 9, 2:51 am, Eric Walker <em...@owlcroft.com> wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:48:18 +0000, Adam Funk wrote:
> >
> > >> > ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives, business
> > >> > owners and a school secretary in our group.’
> >
> > >> I am unacquainted with the substance "ex-oil", and certainly did not
> > >> realize that there is (apparently) an industry that deals in it.
> >
> > >You and I might call it "plastic".
> >
> > Bishop Justin Welby, ecclesiastically Justin Dunelm
>
> After noticing that that word occurs in Steve Hayes's e-mail address
> in his sig, I finally looked it up. The University of Durham. Of
> course.
> > and officially named
> > today as the next Archbishop of Canterbury, was formerly an oil company
> > executive.
> >
> > Appropriately, the news of his appointment was widely leaked.
>
> Had the Church floated it first?
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Peter Duncanson [BrE]
Nov 10, 2012, 8:32:20 AM11/10/12
to
On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 20:54:33 +0000, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com>
wrote:
>On 2012-11-09, John Holmes wrote:
>
>> Lewis wrote:
>>> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
>>>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
>>>> business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>>>
>>> OIL EXECUTIVES?!
>>>
>>> Get the rope.
>>
>> Be careful you don't hang the Archbishop of Canterbury. Bad karma.
>
>
>I get the impression he's a reformed oil executive.
This article in _Time_ has interesting information:
http://world.time.com/2012/11/09/as-the-next-archbishop-of-canterbury-can-justin-welby-save-the-anglican-communion/
Born in London in 1956, Welby has always had well-heeled
connections. His father, Gavin Welby, worked as a bootlegger in the
United States in the 1920s, was friendly with the Kennedys and once
dated the actress Vanessa Redgrave. His mother, Jane Portal Welby,
once worked as a secretary for Winston Churchill. Welby was educated
at Eton College, the same elite private boys school attended by
Princes William and Harry, London Mayor Boris Johnson and 19 British
Prime Ministers including the current incumbent David Cameron. He
went on to study law and economic history at Cambridge University
before starting a career in the oil industry, first on the
international finance team for a French oil company in Paris and
then as an executive for Enterprise Oil Plc in London. In 1979, he
married his wife Caroline and they started a family.
But Welby’s career path took a sharp pivot after the death of his
baby daughter Johanna, who was killed in a car accident in France in
1983. Though devastated by the loss, Welby later said, “in a strange
way it actually brought [my wife and I] closer to God.” A few years
later, Welby quit his job and enrolled at St. John’s College at
Durham University to study theology and become a priest. He quickly
climbed the ranks of the Church and was appointed the Bishop of
Durham—the fourth most senior bishop in the Church of England— in
November 2012. His appointment as Archbishop of Canterbury marks
another huge promotion—but it’s an elevation to a post that promises
to be extremely challenging.
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
wrote:
>On 2012-11-09, John Holmes wrote:
>
>> Lewis wrote:
>>> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
>>>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
>>>> business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>>>
>>> OIL EXECUTIVES?!
>>>
>>> Get the rope.
>>
>> Be careful you don't hang the Archbishop of Canterbury. Bad karma.
>
>
>I get the impression he's a reformed oil executive.
http://world.time.com/2012/11/09/as-the-next-archbishop-of-canterbury-can-justin-welby-save-the-anglican-communion/
Born in London in 1956, Welby has always had well-heeled
connections. His father, Gavin Welby, worked as a bootlegger in the
United States in the 1920s, was friendly with the Kennedys and once
dated the actress Vanessa Redgrave. His mother, Jane Portal Welby,
once worked as a secretary for Winston Churchill. Welby was educated
at Eton College, the same elite private boys school attended by
Princes William and Harry, London Mayor Boris Johnson and 19 British
Prime Ministers including the current incumbent David Cameron. He
went on to study law and economic history at Cambridge University
before starting a career in the oil industry, first on the
international finance team for a French oil company in Paris and
then as an executive for Enterprise Oil Plc in London. In 1979, he
married his wife Caroline and they started a family.
But Welby’s career path took a sharp pivot after the death of his
baby daughter Johanna, who was killed in a car accident in France in
1983. Though devastated by the loss, Welby later said, “in a strange
way it actually brought [my wife and I] closer to God.” A few years
later, Welby quit his job and enrolled at St. John’s College at
Durham University to study theology and become a priest. He quickly
climbed the ranks of the Church and was appointed the Bishop of
Durham—the fourth most senior bishop in the Church of England— in
November 2012. His appointment as Archbishop of Canterbury marks
another huge promotion—but it’s an elevation to a post that promises
to be extremely challenging.
--
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(in alt.usage.english)
Jerry Friedman
Nov 10, 2012, 10:07:33 AM11/10/12
to
On Nov 10, 6:32 am, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
wrote:
...
> But Welby’s career path took a sharp pivot after the death of his
> baby daughter Johanna, who was killed in a car accident in France in
> 1983. Though devastated by the loss, Welby later said, “in a strange
> way it actually brought [my wife and I]
/Time/ should really be careful about what words it puts into people's
mouths.
> closer to God.”
...
--
Jerry Friedman
wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 20:54:33 +0000, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 2012-11-09, John Holmes wrote:
>
> >> Lewis wrote:
> >>> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
> >>>> business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>
> >>> OIL EXECUTIVES?!
>
> >>> Get the rope.
>
> >> Be careful you don't hang the Archbishop of Canterbury. Bad karma.
>
> >I get the impression he's a reformed oil executive.
>
> This article in _Time_ has interesting information:http://world.time.com/2012/11/09/as-the-next-archbishop-of-canterbury...
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 2012-11-09, John Holmes wrote:
>
> >> Lewis wrote:
> >>> Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives,
> >>>> business owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>
> >>> OIL EXECUTIVES?!
>
> >>> Get the rope.
>
> >> Be careful you don't hang the Archbishop of Canterbury. Bad karma.
>
> >I get the impression he's a reformed oil executive.
>
...
> But Welby’s career path took a sharp pivot after the death of his
> baby daughter Johanna, who was killed in a car accident in France in
> 1983. Though devastated by the loss, Welby later said, “in a strange
> way it actually brought [my wife and I]
mouths.
> closer to God.”
...
--
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Whiskers
Nov 10, 2012, 10:13:43 AM11/10/12
to
On 2012-11-09, Robert Bannister <rob...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
> On 10/11/12 3:46 AM, Whiskers wrote:
>> On 2012-11-09, Robert Bannister <rob...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/11/12 6:44 AM, Whiskers wrote:
>>>> On 2012-11-08, Nick Spalding <spal...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>> Whiskers wrote, in
>>>>> <slrnk9lmoa.5...@ID-107770.user.individual.net>
>>>>> on Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:04:58 +0000:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2012-11-07, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Whiskers filted:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [cross-posting removed]
>>>>>>>> On 2012-11-06, Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
>>>>>>>>> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>>>>>>>>> incited violence?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Battle Hymn of the Republic / Mine eyes have seen the Glory / John
>>>>>>>> Brown's body?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 19th century version of "Lili Marlene"....r
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That one, and Marlene Dietrich, were popular with the troops on both sides
>>>>>> in WWII, in Europe. I can't imagine it inciting violence, so much as
>>>>>> home-sickness or nostalgia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lale Anderson, not Marlene Dietrich, according to:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DXruigKRRc>
[...]
> On 10/11/12 3:46 AM, Whiskers wrote:
>> On 2012-11-09, Robert Bannister <rob...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/11/12 6:44 AM, Whiskers wrote:
>>>> On 2012-11-08, Nick Spalding <spal...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>> Whiskers wrote, in
>>>>> <slrnk9lmoa.5...@ID-107770.user.individual.net>
>>>>> on Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:04:58 +0000:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2012-11-07, R H Draney <dado...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Whiskers filted:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [cross-posting removed]
>>>>>>>> On 2012-11-06, Harrison Hill <harrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
>>>>>>>>> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
>>>>>>>>> incited violence?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Battle Hymn of the Republic / Mine eyes have seen the Glory / John
>>>>>>>> Brown's body?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 19th century version of "Lili Marlene"....r
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That one, and Marlene Dietrich, were popular with the troops on both sides
>>>>>> in WWII, in Europe. I can't imagine it inciting violence, so much as
>>>>>> home-sickness or nostalgia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lale Anderson, not Marlene Dietrich, according to:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DXruigKRRc>
> To my surprise, YouTube has a Lale Anderson recording from 1942 singing
> the song in English. This is an even worse translation. I do not
> recommend listening to more than a few seconds of it.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0P_m7SZBvQ
was probably under duress. She seems to have been a victim of the Nazis
rather than a supporter.
Robert Bannister
Nov 10, 2012, 5:47:23 PM11/10/12
to
around the internet somewhere where she is very specific about that.
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Adam Funk
Nov 11, 2012, 4:08:57 PM11/11/12
to
On 2012-11-06, Harrison Hill wrote:
> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
> incited violence?
"Frankenstein" (torches & pitchforks at the ready)?
> QUIZ: On an even less likely "banning" issue, which instrumental
> record - with no words at all - was banned in the USA, because it
> incited violence?
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that Americans drink, on average, 22 gallons of alcohol a year. This
means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles to the gallon.
http://www.cartalk.com/content/average-americans-mpg
Mark IV
Nov 11, 2012, 5:30:02 PM11/11/12
to
On Nov 6, 6:00 pm, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> Headline: Morris dancers told to move on by police for 'offensive
> dance routine'
> A group of Morris dancers has been told to take their
> sticks, bells and handkerchiefs elsewhere as their routines
> were ‘offensive’.
Rebecca Willis won a $275,000 settlement from the town of Marshall,
> Headline: Morris dancers told to move on by police for 'offensive
> dance routine'
> A group of Morris dancers has been told to take their
> sticks, bells and handkerchiefs elsewhere as their routines
> were ‘offensive’.
North Carolina this week. The lawsuit goes back 8 years when she was
56 years old and banned from the Marshall Depot Community Center for
dirty dancing.
According to Willis, the town accused her of gyrating and simulating
sexual intercourse while wearing a skirt and allowing a view of her
underwear. Rebecca, on the other hand, considered her style
“exuberant and flamboyant” and not obscene.
http://www.bittenandbound.com/2008/11/14/rebecca-willis-wins-275000-lawsuit-over-dirty-dancing/
It was similar to this, but with HIP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xi4O1yi6b0
__
Mark
Q- Why don't Baptists have sex while standing?
A- Because people might think they're dancing.
R H Draney
Nov 12, 2012, 12:21:09 AM11/12/12
to
Mark IV filted:
I fully expected that link to lead to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxZoXJBILbc
....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
>
>Rebecca Willis won a $275,000 settlement from the town of Marshall,
>North Carolina this week. The lawsuit goes back 8 years when she was
>56 years old and banned from the Marshall Depot Community Center for
>dirty dancing.
>
>According to Willis, the town accused her of gyrating and simulating
>sexual intercourse while wearing a skirt and allowing a view of her
>underwear. Rebecca, on the other hand, considered her style
>=93exuberant and flamboyant=94 and not obscene.
>Rebecca Willis won a $275,000 settlement from the town of Marshall,
>North Carolina this week. The lawsuit goes back 8 years when she was
>56 years old and banned from the Marshall Depot Community Center for
>dirty dancing.
>
>According to Willis, the town accused her of gyrating and simulating
>sexual intercourse while wearing a skirt and allowing a view of her
>underwear. Rebecca, on the other hand, considered her style
>
>It was similar to this, but with HIP:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5xi4O1yi6b0
>It was similar to this, but with HIP:
I fully expected that link to lead to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxZoXJBILbc
....r
--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.
Adam Funk
Nov 12, 2012, 8:25:18 AM11/12/12
to
Should it be after or nested within the []?
brought [my wife and I][sic] closer to God
or
brought [my wife and I[sic]] closer to God
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Guy Barry
Nov 12, 2012, 8:41:21 AM11/12/12
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"Adam Funk" wrote in message news:uu97n9x...@news.ducksburg.com...
> On 2012-11-10, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> > On Nov 10, 6:32 am, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
> > wrote:
>> > This article in _Time_ has interesting
>> > information:http://world.time.com/2012/11/09/as-the-next-archbishop-of-canterbury...
> ...
>
>> > But Welby’s career path took a sharp pivot after the death of his
>> > baby daughter Johanna, who was killed in a car accident in France in
>> > 1983. Though devastated by the loss, Welby later said, “in a strange
>> > way it actually brought [my wife and I]
>
> > /Time/ should really be careful about what words it puts into people's
> > mouths.
us closer to God", and the journalist felt it necessary to expand "us", but
got the case wrong. Black mark.
> Yes, I was going to ask whether there should be a "[sic]" in there.
> Should it be after or nested within the []?
> brought [my wife and I][sic] closer to God
> or
> brought [my wife and I[sic]] closer to God
that Welby actually said "my wife and I". If it's important to attribute
the words to "Time", I would explicitly write "in the words of 'Time' ".
--
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Jerry Friedman
Nov 12, 2012, 10:25:11 AM11/12/12
to
On Nov 12, 6:41 am, "Guy Barry" <guy.ba...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> "Adam Funk" wrote in messagenews:uu97n9x...@news.ducksburg.com...
words are deleted.
"In a strange way it actually brought us [my wife and me] closer to
God."
"In a strange way it actually brought us [Welby and his wife] closer
to God."
--
Jerry Friedman
> "Adam Funk" wrote in messagenews:uu97n9x...@news.ducksburg.com...
> > On 2012-11-10, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> > > On Nov 10, 6:32 am, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
> > > wrote:
> >> > This article in _Time_ has interesting
> >> > information:http://world.time.com/2012/11/09/as-the-next-archbishop-of-canterbury...
> > ...
>
> >> > But Welby’s career path took a sharp pivot after the death of his
> >> > baby daughter Johanna, who was killed in a car accident in France in
> >> > 1983. Though devastated by the loss, Welby later said, “in a strange
> >> > way it actually brought [my wife and I]
>
> > > /Time/ should really be careful about what words it puts into people's
> > > mouths.
>
> What do you suppose Welby's actual words were? I assume they were "brought
> us closer to God", and the journalist felt it necessary to expand "us", but
> got the case wrong. Black mark.
By the way, allow me to express my preference for the styles where no
> > > On Nov 10, 6:32 am, "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
> > > wrote:
> >> > This article in _Time_ has interesting
> >> > information:http://world.time.com/2012/11/09/as-the-next-archbishop-of-canterbury...
> > ...
>
> >> > But Welby’s career path took a sharp pivot after the death of his
> >> > baby daughter Johanna, who was killed in a car accident in France in
> >> > 1983. Though devastated by the loss, Welby later said, “in a strange
> >> > way it actually brought [my wife and I]
>
> > > /Time/ should really be careful about what words it puts into people's
> > > mouths.
>
> What do you suppose Welby's actual words were? I assume they were "brought
> us closer to God", and the journalist felt it necessary to expand "us", but
> got the case wrong. Black mark.
words are deleted.
"In a strange way it actually brought us [my wife and me] closer to
God."
"In a strange way it actually brought us [Welby and his wife] closer
to God."
--
Jerry Friedman
Adam Funk
Nov 12, 2012, 4:40:20 PM11/12/12
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>> Often wrongly credited to Marlene Dietrich, by me too till I knew :)"
>>
>> According to Denis Johnston in "Nine Rivers from Jordan".
>>
>> This recording was played every night by the radio station that the
>> Afrika Korps listened to and the Eighth Army listened in as well.
>
> It says here <http://www.answers.com/topic/marlene-dietrich> that she
>
> - first performed “Lili Marlene” during North Africa U.S.O. tour, 1943;
> - performed over 500 times before Allied troops, 1943-46;
>
> That site also says she recorded the song for OSS propaganda broadcasts to
> Germany, in 1944. Wikipedia credits it to the Decca label.
>
> I believe this is her original recording <http://youtu.be/8jrfluDC9AA>
> (good pictures too, for Dietrich fans). That's certainly the one I grew up
> with. Much sexier than Anderson's gentle rendition.
Any idea why William S Burroughs disliked her?
>>
>> According to Denis Johnston in "Nine Rivers from Jordan".
>>
>> This recording was played every night by the radio station that the
>> Afrika Korps listened to and the Eighth Army listened in as well.
>
> It says here <http://www.answers.com/topic/marlene-dietrich> that she
>
> - first performed “Lili Marlene” during North Africa U.S.O. tour, 1943;
> - performed over 500 times before Allied troops, 1943-46;
>
> That site also says she recorded the song for OSS propaganda broadcasts to
> Germany, in 1944. Wikipedia credits it to the Decca label.
>
> I believe this is her original recording <http://youtu.be/8jrfluDC9AA>
> (good pictures too, for Dietrich fans). That's certainly the one I grew up
> with. Much sexier than Anderson's gentle rendition.
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Adam Funk
Nov 12, 2012, 4:38:57 PM11/12/12
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No right of private conversation was enumerated in the Constitution.
I don't suppose it occurred to anyone at the time that it could be
prevented. [Whitfield Diffie]
Guy Barry
Nov 12, 2012, 10:08:37 PM11/12/12
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"Adam Funk" wrote in message news:hs68n9...@news.ducksburg.com...
> On 2012-11-12, Guy Barry wrote:
> > "Adam Funk" wrote in message news:uu97n9x...@news.ducksburg.com...
> >> Yes, I was going to ask whether there should be a "[sic]" in there.
> >> Should it be after or nested within the []?
>
> >> brought [my wife and I][sic] closer to God
>> or
> >> brought [my wife and I[sic]] closer to God
>
> > I think either of those might be open to misinterpretation as suggesting
> > that Welby actually said "my wife and I". If it's important to
> > attribute
> > the words to "Time", I would explicitly write "in the words of 'Time' ".
> Well, I was being facetious.
Oh, I wasn't. It seemed like a legitimate question (albeit a rather obscure
> >> Should it be after or nested within the []?
>
> >> brought [my wife and I][sic] closer to God
>> or
> >> brought [my wife and I[sic]] closer to God
>
> > I think either of those might be open to misinterpretation as suggesting
> > that Welby actually said "my wife and I". If it's important to
> > attribute
> > the words to "Time", I would explicitly write "in the words of 'Time' ".
> Well, I was being facetious.
one). I doubt whether this type of thing happens too often.
--
Guy Barry
Whiskers
Nov 13, 2012, 12:38:06 PM11/13/12
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On 2012-11-12, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
> On 2012-11-08, Whiskers wrote:
>
>> On 2012-11-08, Nick Spalding <spal...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>> Often wrongly credited to Marlene Dietrich, by me too till I knew :)"
>>>
>>> According to Denis Johnston in "Nine Rivers from Jordan".
>>>
>>> This recording was played every night by the radio station that the
>>> Afrika Korps listened to and the Eighth Army listened in as well.
>>
>> It says here <http://www.answers.com/topic/marlene-dietrich> that she
>>
>> - first performed “Lili Marlene” during North Africa U.S.O. tour, 1943;
>> - performed over 500 times before Allied troops, 1943-46;
>>
>> That site also says she recorded the song for OSS propaganda broadcasts to
>> Germany, in 1944. Wikipedia credits it to the Decca label.
>>
>> I believe this is her original recording <http://youtu.be/8jrfluDC9AA>
>> (good pictures too, for Dietrich fans). That's certainly the one I grew up
>> with. Much sexier than Anderson's gentle rendition.
>
>
> Any idea why William S Burroughs disliked her?
Ummmm ... no.
> On 2012-11-08, Whiskers wrote:
>
>> On 2012-11-08, Nick Spalding <spal...@iol.ie> wrote:
>
>>> Often wrongly credited to Marlene Dietrich, by me too till I knew :)"
>>>
>>> According to Denis Johnston in "Nine Rivers from Jordan".
>>>
>>> This recording was played every night by the radio station that the
>>> Afrika Korps listened to and the Eighth Army listened in as well.
>>
>> It says here <http://www.answers.com/topic/marlene-dietrich> that she
>>
>> - first performed “Lili Marlene” during North Africa U.S.O. tour, 1943;
>> - performed over 500 times before Allied troops, 1943-46;
>>
>> That site also says she recorded the song for OSS propaganda broadcasts to
>> Germany, in 1944. Wikipedia credits it to the Decca label.
>>
>> I believe this is her original recording <http://youtu.be/8jrfluDC9AA>
>> (good pictures too, for Dietrich fans). That's certainly the one I grew up
>> with. Much sexier than Anderson's gentle rendition.
>
>
> Any idea why William S Burroughs disliked her?
Lord Infomouse
Nov 23, 2012, 10:54:53 AM11/23/12
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On 11/9/2012 1:55 PM, Adam Funk wrote:
> On 2012-11-09, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>
>> On Nov 9, 2:51 am, Eric Walker <em...@owlcroft.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:48:18 +0000, Adam Funk wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives, business
>>>> owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>>>
>>> I am unacquainted with the substance "ex-oil", and certainly did not
>>> realize that there is (apparently) an industry that deals in it.
>>
>> You and I might call it "plastic".
>
>
> It's not practical to turn it back into dinosaurs.
It's an Undiscovered Country. It may be very practical, yet no one has
> On 2012-11-09, Jerry Friedman wrote:
>
>> On Nov 9, 2:51 am, Eric Walker <em...@owlcroft.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:48:18 +0000, Adam Funk wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> ‘We felt treated like yobs. But we’ve got ex-oil executives, business
>>>> owners and a school secretary in our group.’
>>>
>>> I am unacquainted with the substance "ex-oil", and certainly did not
>>> realize that there is (apparently) an industry that deals in it.
>>
>> You and I might call it "plastic".
>
>
> It's not practical to turn it back into dinosaurs.
done it yet. Many people lament that everything that can be invented
already has. Why not do this?
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