So who's gonna win and what's it gonna be NewsGroupies, Makers or Moochers?

[bozo]

and when are they gonna make ballots for bozos ... damn things are too
hard to unnerstann for your average clown

-bdn-

[bozo]

Or in a 3-way Lucha Libre wrestling match?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hiR9H7amo&feature=watch-vrec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ib9N7L9y08&feature=related

-bdn-

[JNugent]

They can't ALL be members of Los Straitjackets.

[Tommy Joe]

On Nov 7, 12:20 am, bozo <Bozo_De_N...@37.com> wrote:


> and when are they gonna make ballots for bozos ... damn things are too
> hard to unnerstann for your average clown

A short scene with cut and pasted vids of A&C and Joe Friday in the
same room would be funny. Go through the Dragnet files, or Webb's
film, "The DI" and take whatever is appropriate and insert it into
Stooge footage. The serious toned Webb barking orders ala Bud Abbot
only better as the stooges stumble over each other trying to get away
from Webb's maniacal Marine DI or the straight-laced commands of
Sergeant Friday. Just Webb's head would be enough, like a image from
the future appearing in a cloud. They already do this sort of
editing, but using Webb and the Stooges would be funny - and I think
it would be funnier if the ratio of Webb to Stooge dialogue went more
in Webb's favor. Just the head, the mouth, the voice juxtaposed
against the stooges of another era would be funny.

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

The DI is great. Cracks me up. Your idea is funny. I would love to
see it. You can juxtaposition anyone with Webb and it would be
hilarious. Even Adolf Hitler.

Could show JW from the DI calling people maggots then Hitler spewing
his shit in response. Who would appear more facist?

[Tommy Joe]

On Nov 15, 9:46 am, OllieNort...@aol.com wrote:

> The DI is great.  Cracks me up.  Your idea is funny.  I would love to
> see it.  You can juxtaposition anyone with Webb and it would be
> hilarious.  Even Adolf Hitler.
>
> Could show JW from the DI calling people maggots then Hitler spewing
> his shit in response.  Who would appear more facist?

I'm glad we share the same humor and imagery here. Yes, Webb -
especially playing Friday or the DI, would be great clipped in with
just about anybody. I want to get in tight on that head - then the
mouth - then the voice itself. At times the moving head of Webb can
even be put into a still shot as his voice drones on barking
commands. Occasionally he might appear full bodied, but mostly I see
just a head - like a tiny cloud behind those on whom he's intruding
(or enhancing) - sort of like the devil and angel on the shoulder bit
- only it's not on the shoulder only - it's anywhere - appearing and
disappearing as if by will.

Speaking of fascist, how about that fucking flag getting bigger
and bigger at sporting events and other television fare, and the stone-
faced ten-hutted soldiers standing at guard as first responders from
the WTC and elsewhere are paraded through to thunderous applause, many
standing, most because the guy next to him stood first. The Nazi
music and outfits and the footage of the times makes it appear more
frightening than what goes on today. But what goes on today seems
innocuous to those of this day, just as it appeared so to the Nazis
who preceded our era.

Webb's order-barking DI head would be good in a tv infomercial
for an exercise product as the exercises are down on the floor huffing
and puffing and we cut to the DI's face screaming, "Give me 50 more
pushups maggot - I'm gonna work you till you drop."

TJ

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Jack Webb made some movies where he isn't a cop or army guy but when
he started the Dragnet Joe Friday bit he hit his stride. Something in
him snapped and he became a real pig. Life was black and white like
the LA police cars. No grey areas. No forgiveness for any act that
was 'against the law'.

And to illustrate the point that the law knew best they would find
some 'actual case' that supported their view.

There was one dragnet about a young couple smoking marijuana and they
were talking how it was not harmfull then one evening they are getting
high and thier baby drowns in the bath tub and 'proves' that marijuana
is evil.

[Tommy Joe]

On Nov 16, 9:06 am, OllieNort...@aol.com wrote:

> Jack Webb made some movies where he isn't a cop or army guy but when
> he started the Dragnet Joe Friday bit he hit his stride.  Something in
> him snapped and he became a real pig.  Life was black and white like
> the LA police cars.  No grey areas.  No forgiveness for any act that
> was 'against the law'.
>
> And to illustrate the point that the law knew best they would find
> some 'actual case' that supported their view.
>
> There was one dragnet about a young couple smoking marijuana and they
> were talking how it was not harmfull then one evening they are getting
> high and thier baby drowns in the bath tub and 'proves' that marijuana
> is evil.

Some of the dialogue and the way it was delivered dead-pan by Webb
was funny. I recall one episode where he and his partner were
grilling a guy who wouldn't shut up and Webb called him "Tunnel
Mouth". That cracked me up. Oh, I saw Webb in lots of things before
Dragnet came out. He had a role in Sunset Blvd. I used to see him
quite a bit when driving cab early on in Hollywood. I used to get
calls at a restaurant on Sunset - not swanky, just a restaurant/bar -
and Webb was there almost every time. Just another actor, probably
related to someone who came before him in the biz. I even liked Dan
Akroyd's take on Sgt Friday in a Dragnet movie from the 80s. The
movie dragged a bit and slid into juvenile shit like multiple car
wrecks, etc., but Akroyd's take on Webb was pretty funny as he didn't
really impersonate Sgt Friday as much as interpret him. Sgt Friday is
an institution. Gruff and inflexible, I'll still take him over any
real cop I've ever met.

TJ

[CDB]

On 17/11/2012 1:51 AM, Tommy Joe wrote:
> On Nov 16, 9:06 am, OllieNort...@aol.com wrote:

>> Jack Webb made some movies where he isn't a cop or army guy but when
>> he started the Dragnet Joe Friday bit he hit his stride. Something in
>> him snapped and he became a real pig. Life was black and white like
>> the LA police cars. No grey areas. No forgiveness for any act that
>> was 'against the law'.

It was like that in the '50s. A few years later, the '60s produced a
reaction against the institutionalised conformity of those times.

[example snipped]

> Some of the dialogue and the way it was delivered dead-pan by Webb
> was funny.

People have thought so since I were a lad (changing the needle -- what a
concept). You might like Stan Freberg's take on him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUdFLyNCeI4

[examples snipped]

My newsclient, which won't let me repost too many lines, also won't let
me post to more than three groups. Fingers crossed, Letterman and the
Standups dumped.

[Tommy Joe]

I can see dumping the Letterman crowd completely. Why anyone
would go there at all amazes and disgusts me. Jack Webb was a better
comic than Letterman ever was. By the way, I don't think the cop
shows of the 70s were any better or more insightful than the 50s-
styled Dragnet. In fact, those shows from the 70s took us directly to
the cop shows of today which suck in a sinister way as they show the
cops as being an amazing combination of intelligent, witty, tough,
creative, and concerned all at the same time. I hate cop shows. To
me Dragnet was not a cop show, it was a lazy half hour of relaxation
and maybe a few good laughs. I really despise the Law & Order show
and it's numerous spinoffs. They criminals on those shows are almost
always child molesters or rapists as anything less would fail to get
the viewers to root for the cops. I do not root for cops on tv shows
or in real life. But I have a great idea for a new Law & Order
episode. A huge gang made up of smaller gangs that once warred
against each other but are now allies storms the precinct and wars it
out with the cops. As the cops and the gang are shooting it out,
there appears behind the gang the faces of Joe Friday and Elliot Ness
urging them forward with exhortations to, "Kill the modern pigs, it's
time to return to the glorious days of yesteryear."

TJ

[CDB]

On 17/11/2012 10:43 PM, Tommy Joe wrote:

> CDB <bellemar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tommy Joe wrote:

>> My newsclient, which won't let me repost too many lines, also won't let
>> me post to more than three groups. Fingers crossed, Letterman and the
>> Standups dumped.

> I can see dumping the Letterman crowd completely. Why anyone
> would go there at all amazes and disgusts me. Jack Webb was a better
> comic than Letterman ever was. By the way, I don't think the cop
> shows of the 70s were any better or more insightful than the 50s-

> styled Dragnet. In fact, those shows from the 70s took us directly to eh?

> the cop shows of today which suck in a sinister way as they show the
> cops as being an amazing combination of intelligent, witty, tough,
> creative, and concerned all at the same time.

It's the police unions, eh? You haff relatiffs now living in the
municipality?

> I hate cop shows. To
> me Dragnet was not a cop show, it was a lazy half hour of relaxation
> and maybe a few good laughs. I really despise the Law & Order show
> and it's numerous spinoffs. They criminals on those shows are almost
> always child molesters or rapists as anything less would fail to get
> the viewers to root for the cops. I do not root for cops on tv shows
> or in real life. But I have a great idea for a new Law & Order
> episode. A huge gang made up of smaller gangs that once warred
> against each other but are now allies storms the precinct and wars it
> out with the cops. As the cops and the gang are shooting it out,
> there appears behind the gang the faces of Joe Friday and Elliot Ness
> urging them forward with exhortations to, "Kill the modern pigs, it's
> time to return to the glorious days of yesteryear."

I like to watch NCIS (possibly because the protagonist is an old man)
but, as a non-American, I find I have to discount a lot of Yankee
imperialist propaganda to enjoy the show.

[Tommy Joe]

On Nov 18, 8:41 am, CDB <bellemar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I like to watch NCIS (possibly because the protagonist is an old man)
> but, as a non-American, I find I have to discount a lot of Yankee
> imperialist propaganda to enjoy the show.

I hate cop shows period, especially the ones that glorify them,
which so far is all of them. The criminals are always rapists or
child molesters. That's because the cops (and the actors playing
them), are not magnetic enough on their own to get anybody to root for
them otherwise. How many rapists and child molesters are there in the
world? Enough for every cop show on tv, that's how many. I don't
mind a show in which cops appear secondarily, as in Breaking Bad for
example, but I don't like when the show is about them. Law & Order is
even worse than a traditional cop show as it makes not only the cops
look good but the lawyers as well. The only thing close to it is Dr
House and his dream team. Just as you will not meet Dr House and his
team when you arrive at hospital with an emergency, you will also not
see the crew from Law & Order or NCIS or CSI Miami. Yep, it's all
tied in, intentionally or not - the cops shows, the lawyers shows, the
medical shows, and the endless parade of wounded 'warriors' and other
patriotic crap they drag out at every sporting event there is. Except
for billiards. I've never seen the national anthem played at a
billiards match. A weekly show about a pool player is not a bad
idea. But, the producers wonder, how are we going to fit the cops and
lawyers into the equation. We must have cops and lawyers!

TJ