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People I have virtually met, Part 7b

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James Hogg

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:07:58 AM11/25/09
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Hello:

Is this construction with "of where" still in common use?

How would you feel about "whereof" in this sentence?

"assented from his opening before his inlookers of where an oxmanstongue
stalled stabled the wellnourished one"

----

[After a lengthy preamble, Taff and Butt, incarnations of Shem and
Shaun, come to the tale of Buckley and the Russian general]

-- That is too tootrue enough in Solidan's Island as in Moltern
Giaourmany and from the Amelakins off to date back to land of engined
Egypsians, assented from his opening before his inlookers of where an
oxmanstongue stalled stabled the wellnourished one, lord of the seven
days, overlord of sats and suns, the sat of all the suns which are in
the ring of his system of the sats of his sun, god of the scuffeldfallen
skillfilledfelon.

James Joyce, Finnegans Wake, p. 969

-----

Thanks.
Marius Hancu


--
James

Richard Chambers

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:22:41 AM11/25/09
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James Hogg wrote

Brilliant. But you have completely fucked up my numbering system.

Richard Chambers Leeds UK.


Donna Richoux

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:30:34 AM11/25/09
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James Hogg <Jas....@gOUTmail.com> wrote:

> Hello:
>
> Is this construction with "of where" still in common use?

Oh, yes, just yesterday I was assenting to my inlookers of where my
oxmanstongue was stabled.

Hell's bells, Marcus, this is Finnegans Wake!

>
> How would you feel about "whereof" in this sentence?
>
> "assented from his opening before his inlookers of where an oxmanstongue
> stalled stabled the wellnourished one"
>
> ----
>
> [After a lengthy preamble, Taff and Butt, incarnations of Shem and
> Shaun, come to the tale of Buckley and the Russian general]
>
> -- That is too tootrue enough in Solidan's Island as in Moltern
> Giaourmany and from the Amelakins off to date back to land of engined
> Egypsians, assented from his opening before his inlookers of where an
> oxmanstongue stalled stabled the wellnourished one, lord of the seven
> days, overlord of sats and suns, the sat of all the suns which are in
> the ring of his system of the sats of his sun, god of the scuffeldfallen
> skillfilledfelon.
>
> James Joyce, Finnegans Wake, p. 969
>

I withdraw all my complaints about H. James.

--
Donna Richoux

CDB

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:28:45 AM11/25/09
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Donna Richoux wrote:
> James Hogg <Jas....@gOUTmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello:
>>
>> Is this construction with "of where" still in common use?
>
> Oh, yes, just yesterday I was assenting to my inlookers of where my
> oxmanstongue was stabled.
>
> Hell's bells, Marcus, this is Finnegans Wake!
>>
Who is an incarnation, or pixillation, of whom, here?

>
>> How would you feel about "whereof" in this sentence?
>>
>> "assented from his opening before his inlookers of where an
>> oxmanstongue stalled stabled the wellnourished one"
>>
I would be shocked, shocked. The "of" seems to be a sign of loose
apposition, not anything like the usual preposition (I'm assuming that
"where ... " is an explanation of "opening"). Anyway, "whereof" is
"of what", not "of where".

Jerry Friedman

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Nov 25, 2009, 10:37:34 AM11/25/09
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On Nov 25, 6:07 am, James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com> wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Is this construction with "of where" still in common use?
>
> How would you feel about "whereof" in this sentence?
>
> "assented from his opening before his inlookers of where an oxmanstongue
> stalled stabled the wellnourished one"
...

To the real Marius: If you ask questions about /Finnegans Wake/ here,
I'm not going to help. Just saying.

--
Jerry Friedman

Donna Richoux

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Nov 25, 2009, 10:50:14 AM11/25/09
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Richard Chambers <richard.cham...@ntlworld.net> wrote:

> James Hogg wrote
>
> > Hello:
> >
> > Is this construction with "of where" still in common use?
> >
> > How would you feel about "whereof" in this sentence?
> >
> > "assented from his opening before his inlookers of where an oxmanstongue

[snip]


>
> Brilliant. But you have completely fucked up my numbering system.
>
> Richard Chambers Leeds UK.

Ah, I got caught. Just as I closed my reply, I saw James' name and
thought, "What is that doing there?"

And I really know that Marius' name is Marius not Marcus, but I'm still
apt to confuse them.

I will have to be on my guard for more counterfeits.

--
Beast -- Donna Richoux

James Hogg

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Nov 25, 2009, 12:55:10 PM11/25/09
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Donna Richoux wrote:
> Richard Chambers <richard.cham...@ntlworld.net> wrote:
>
>> James Hogg wrote
>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> Is this construction with "of where" still in common use?
>>>
>>> How would you feel about "whereof" in this sentence?
>>>
>>> "assented from his opening before his inlookers of where an
>>> oxmanstongue
>
> [snip]
>> Brilliant. But you have completely fucked up my numbering system.

Richard can start again at 12 897 548 (with hair spaces).

>> Richard Chambers Leeds UK.
>
> Ah, I got caught. Just as I closed my reply, I saw James' name and
> thought, "What is that doing there?"
>
> And I really know that Marius' name is Marius not Marcus, but I'm
> still apt to confuse them.
>
> I will have to be on my guard for more counterfeits.

I really thought you were just continuing the game in the same spirit,
Donna.

As for your comment, "I withdraw all my complaints about H. James", I
must say that I find that the language of "Finnegans Wake" makes me grin
(and even laugh) more than Henry James's. I think I might try once again
to read it. Previous attempts have left my head spinning after half a
page, with the result that I lose the plot. Being thirty years older
now, I ought to be able to understand more of the allusions. I'll try to
resist the temptation to post questions about the book here, though.

--
James

Reinhold {Rey} Aman

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:11:14 PM11/25/09
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James Hogg wrote � la Marius:
[x] Super, James. You deserve a standing ovulation!

--
~~~ Reinhold {Rey} Aman ~~~

Richard Chambers

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:30:53 PM11/25/09
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Donna Richoux wrote

Didn't you find the clue in the title? Have you missed your own short
counterfeit piece at the bottom of the page in "Re: People I have virtually
met", 20 November, 12:08 British time? That ought to have put you on your
guard.

Animal -- Richard Chambers


Donna Richoux

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:25:08 PM11/25/09
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Richard Chambers <richard.cham...@ntlworld.net> wrote:

>
> Didn't you find the clue in the title?

I have no excuse.

>Have you missed your own short
> counterfeit piece at the bottom of the page in "Re: People I have virtually
> met", 20 November, 12:08 British time?

Oh, yes, it was an honor to be included, thank you. And I loved the idea
of Byron writing Wordsworth. I was a bit taken aback to learn that I
write exclusively in the passive voice, though.

> That ought to have put you on your guard.

Reminds me of the olden days, when trolls lurked behind every corner,
and posts were slathered with double and triple irony. Nerve-wracking,
that was, or should I say nerve-racking?

--
Best -- Donna Richoux

Peter Moylan

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:53:23 PM11/25/09
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James Hogg wrote:
> Donna Richoux wrote:
>> Richard Chambers <richard.cham...@ntlworld.net> wrote:
>>
>>> James Hogg wrote
>>>
>>>> Hello:
>>>>
>>>> Is this construction with "of where" still in common use?
>>>>
>>>> How would you feel about "whereof" in this sentence?
>>>>
>>>> "assented from his opening before his inlookers of where an
>>>> oxmanstongue
>>
>> [snip]
>>> Brilliant. But you have completely fucked up my numbering system.
>
> Richard can start again at 12 897 548 (with hair spaces).

Don't bother, she's not answering the phone.

I don't use hair spaces these days. My hairdresser told me I look better
without the part.

--
Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org
For an e-mail address, see my web page.

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