stocking

[GG]

How did
"her stocking feet"
appear from
"her stockinged feet"
?

Thanks.

[Don Phillipson]

"GG" <not_here@no_where.com> wrote in message
news:ju3lpu$ibv$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

> How did
> "her stocking feet"
> appear from
> "her stockinged feet"
> ?

Your choice of:
1: Carelessness
2: Ignorance.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

[Whiskers]

I don't know.

"Stockinged feet" are feet clad in hose.

"Stocking feet" suggests that the feet are made of stocking(s); perhaps
a cloth doll or effigy, or a cosmetic substitute for a missing limb.

--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

[James Hogg]

Whiskers wrote:
> On 2012-07-17, GG <not_here@no_where.com> wrote:
>> How did
>> "her stocking feet"
>> appear from
>> "her stockinged feet"
>> ?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> I don't know.
>
> "Stockinged feet" are feet clad in hose.
>
> "Stocking feet" suggests that the feet are made of stocking(s); perhaps
> a cloth doll or effigy, or a cosmetic substitute for a missing limb.

For me "in her stocking feet" emphasises that she is not wearing shoes.
It's synonymous with "in her stocking soles".

--
James

[Glenn Knickerbocker]

On 7/17/2012 8:42 AM, Don Phillipson wrote:
> 1: Carelessness
> 2: Ignorance.

3: Possibly, survival of an old ergative use of the verb "stock."
(I have no evidence for or against this; it's just a guess.)

�R

[GG]

Thanks, everyone.

[R H Draney]

Don Phillipson filted:

>
>"GG" <not_here@no_where.com> wrote in message
>news:ju3lpu$ibv$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>
>> How did
>> "her stocking feet"
>> appear from
>> "her stockinged feet"
>> ?
>
>Your choice of:
> 1: Carelessness
> 2: Ignorance.

The same way "iced cream" turned into "ice cream", and "roasted beef" to "roast
beef"....

(Here comes the cat in her stalking feet)....r


--
Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.

[Mike L]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:12:26 +0200, James Hogg <Jas....@gOUTmail.com>
wrote:

See also "in one's shirtsleeves".

--
Mike.

[Robert Bannister]

I misread that as "sales" and thought of "stockin' trade".

--
Robert Bannister

[Nasti J]

On Jul 17, 2:02 pm, R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> wrote:

> The same way "iced cream" turned into "ice cream", and "roasted beef" to "roast
> beef"....

Ice[d] tea

[John Dean]

"Whiskers" <catwh...@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:slrnk0avou.l...@ID-107770.user.individual.net...

> On 2012-07-17, GG <not_here@no_where.com> wrote:
>> How did
>> "her stocking feet"
>> appear from
>> "her stockinged feet"
>> ?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> I don't know.
>
> "Stockinged feet" are feet clad in hose.
>
> "Stocking feet" suggests that the feet are made of stocking(s); perhaps
> a cloth doll or effigy, or a cosmetic substitute for a missing limb.
>

OED has an entry for "stocking-foot" which is the part of the stocking which
covers the foot. Hence:

c.c (in, on) one's stocking feet: with only one's stockings on one's feet,
without one's shoes.

1802 R. Anderson Cumbld. Ball. (1808) 13 Wully?in his clogs top teyme did
beat; But Tamer, in her stockin feet, She bang'd him out and out. 1809 W.
Irving Knickerb. iii. iii. (1820) 178 Leaving their shoes at the door, and
entering devoutly on their stocking feet. 1854 Thackeray Newcomes viii,
Binnie found the Colonel?arrayed in what are called in Scotland his
stocking-feet. 1858 Trollope Dr. Thorne xii, In his stocking-feet?he was
five feet five. 1901 Theodora W. Wilson T' Bacca Queen xxvii. 247 Her
husband was seated in stocking feet in the rocking-chair.

Whereas "stockinged feet" are feet clad only in stockings. Hence:

stockinged
2.2 Of the foot: Covered with a stocking only.

1862 Cornhill Mag. May 570 She had taken her shoes off, and came in her
{stockinged feet} up to my bedside.

Not to mention

1891 Hardy Tess xxxvii, He slid back the door-bar and passed out, slightly
striking his stockinged toe against the edge of the door.

And also

1930 W. P. Ridge Miss Collingwood i. 12 She kicked off her plimsolls, and
walked about in {stockinged feet}.

So 'stocking feet' refers to the garments themselves (which you could wear
on your head) and 'stockinged feet' refers to the limbs which happen to be
unshoed.

--
John Dean

[Guy Barry]

On Jul 17, 10:02 pm, R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net> wrote:

> >"GG" <not_here@no_where.com> wrote in message
> >news:ju3lpu$ibv$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> >> How did
> >> "her stocking feet"
> >> appear from
> >> "her stockinged feet"
> >> ?

> The same way "iced cream" turned into "ice cream", and "roasted beef" to "roast
> beef"....

Modern-day "ice cream" bears very little resemblance to iced cream,
but I'm aware of the origins.

Your second example is interesting, though, as I'd previously thought
of "roast" as an alternative form of the past participle that can only
be used attributively. It only seems to be used with meat, though;
one talks about "roasted peanuts", not "roast peanuts".

--
Guy Barry

[Don Phillipson]

"Guy Barry" <guy....@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:83713d1f-b3f8-42ce...@m3g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...

> . .. previously thought of "roast" as an alternative form of the past

> participle that can only be used attributively. It only seems to be
> used with meat, though; one talks about "roasted peanuts", not "roast
> peanuts".

We also have:
1. Salt beef, apparently uniform in British and American kitchens,
also salt pork etc.
2. Salted peanuts, normal in the UK;
Salt peanuts, normal in the USA (Dizzy Gillespie thought, anyway.)

[LFS]

On 18/07/2012 07:33, Guy Barry wrote:

>
> Your second example is interesting, though, as I'd previously thought
> of "roast" as an alternative form of the past participle that can only
> be used attributively. It only seems to be used with meat, though;
> one talks about "roasted peanuts", not "roast peanuts".
>

Roast potatoes, roast parsnips but roasted Mediterranean vegetables
which seem to have become fashionable. Very odd.


--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)

[Katy Jennison]

Considering ... I think I might say "roasted" parsnips. I don't think
they've migrated to the "roast" category here (this household, that is)
yet. Roasted chestnuts, likewise.


--
Katy Jennison

[Richard R. Hershberger]

Google Books suggests you are wrong about the absence of "roast
peanuts".

[Guy Barry]

I forgot about "roast potatoes". Maybe the rule is "roast" if you
traditionally have them for Sunday lunch, "roasted" otherwise.

--
Guy Barry

[LFS]

We do talk about a roast dinner, rather than a roasted dinner.

[Peter Duncanson [BrE]]

On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:26:24 +0100, LFS

<la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:

>On 18/07/2012 15:17, Guy Barry wrote:
>> On Jul 18, 1:46 pm, LFS <la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 18/07/2012 07:33, Guy Barry wrote:
>>
>>>> Your second example is interesting, though, as I'd previously thought
>>>> of "roast" as an alternative form of the past participle that can only
>>>> be used attributively. It only seems to be used with meat, though;
>>>> one talks about "roasted peanuts", not "roast peanuts".
>>>
>>> Roast potatoes, roast parsnips but roasted Mediterranean vegetables
>>> which seem to have become fashionable. Very odd.
>>
>> I forgot about "roast potatoes". Maybe the rule is "roast" if you
>> traditionally have them for Sunday lunch, "roasted" otherwise.
>>
>
>We do talk about a roast dinner, rather than a roasted dinner.

"Roasted dinner" would hint at over-roasting.

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

[Skitt]

LFS wrote:
> Guy Barry wrote:

>> LFS wrote:
>>> Guy Barry wrote:

>>>> Your second example is interesting, though, as I'd previously thought
>>>> of "roast" as an alternative form of the past participle that can only
>>>> be used attributively. It only seems to be used with meat, though;
>>>> one talks about "roasted peanuts", not "roast peanuts".
>>>
>>> Roast potatoes, roast parsnips but roasted Mediterranean vegetables
>>> which seem to have become fashionable. Very odd.
>>
>> I forgot about "roast potatoes". Maybe the rule is "roast" if you
>> traditionally have them for Sunday lunch, "roasted" otherwise.
>>
>
> We do talk about a roast dinner, rather than a roasted dinner.

Well, yeah -- you are serving a roast, not a dinner that has been
roasted, innit?

--
Skitt (SF Bay Area)
http://come.to/skitt

[Robert Bannister]

How odd - a "roasted" dinner sounds as if it were burnt.


--
Robert Bannister