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Marius Hancu

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Jan 5, 2010, 9:07:45 AM1/5/10
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Hello:

Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
"amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).

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Thanks.
Marius Hancu

Nick Spalding

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Jan 5, 2010, 9:34:40 AM1/5/10
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Marius Hancu wrote, in
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on Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:07:45 -0800 (PST):

> Hello:
>
> Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
> of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
> "amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).

"Passtimes" perhaps, or is it "Pastimes"? � Agent's spell checker
accepts either.
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Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE

the Omrud

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Jan 5, 2010, 9:54:46 AM1/5/10
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On 05/01/2010 14:34, Nick Spalding wrote:
> Marius Hancu wrote, in
> <682e2867-1b89-4b86...@o9g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>
> on Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:07:45 -0800 (PST):
>
>> Hello:
>>
>> Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
>> of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
>> "amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).
>
> "Passtimes" perhaps, or is it "Pastimes"? � Agent's spell checker
> accepts either.

Not quite what you're looking for, but these come to mind:

A "dissolute life" (but that's not slang).

A "misspent youth" is common, but always refers back to some earlier
time; for some reason it always makes me think of snooker halls.

--
David

Marius Hancu

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:40:58 AM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 9:54 am, the Omrud <usenet.om...@gEXPUNGEmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/01/2010 14:34, Nick Spalding wrote:

> >> Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
> >> of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
> >> "amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).
>

> > "Passtimes" perhaps, or is it "Pastimes"? – Agent's spell checker


> > accepts either.
>
> Not quite what you're looking for, but these come to mind:
>
> A "dissolute life" (but that's not slang).
>
> A "misspent youth" is common, but always refers back to some earlier
> time; for some reason it always makes me think of snooker halls.

These are fine, but I'm looking for old or new slang designating that.

Thanks.
Marius Hancu

Wood Avens

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Jan 5, 2010, 11:03:56 AM1/5/10
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Are you looking for a noun meaning (more or less) loose living, or a
noun meaning a person who indulges in it, or an adjective for such a
person? My mind is running over "lush" and "slag" and such-like (not
that either of these covers both drink and sex) -- is that the
category of word you want?.

--

Katy Jennison

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Marius Hancu

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Jan 5, 2010, 11:14:43 AM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 11:03 am, Wood Avens <woodav...@askjennison.com> wrote:

> >> >> Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
> >> >> of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
> >> >> "amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).

> >These are fine, but I'm looking for old or new slang designating that.


>
> Are you looking for a noun meaning (more or less) loose living, or a
> noun meaning a person who indulges in it, or an adjective for such a
> person? My mind is running over "lush" and "slag" and such-like (not
> that either of these covers both drink and sex) -- is that the
> category of word you want?.

I want an slangy equivalent for:

He has lots of "distractions"
He has lots of "distracting stuff" going on around
He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
reflect that)

Marius Hancu

Jeffrey Turner

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Jan 6, 2010, 1:38:43 AM1/6/10
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Those are all vices (not sure if that was ever slang). Temptations,
mayhaps?

--Jeff

--
The comfort of the wealthy has always
depended upon an abundant supply of
the poor. --Voltaire

Django Cat

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Jan 6, 2010, 2:24:03 AM1/6/10
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Marius Hancu wrote:


Well, the late, great Ian Dury popularised the phrase "sex and drugs
and rock and roll" in BrE with a song of that name from 1977:

"Haven't seen you since college, man. How's your new job in the bank?"
"Well ,it's not exactly sex and drugs and rock and roll"...

'Sex and drugs and rock and roll' is apparently also the title of a new
biopic about Dury starring that bloke that was Gollum in LOTRs.

Wiki -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_&_Drugs_&_Rock_&_Roll

suggests that the lyric 'sex and drugs and rock and roll' was intended
to echo the phrase 'wine, women and song', something which has never
crossed my mind before. 'Wine, women and song' itself may be closer to
what you're looking for.


DC. 7:20 AM. "Tea, PC and thick thick snow is all my brain and body
needs".
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James Hogg

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Jan 6, 2010, 2:38:39 AM1/6/10
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Don't forget the bluegrass version of Ian Dury's phrase, which I once
saw on a T-shirt worn by Tim O'Brien: "Flatt and Scruggs and Rock'n'Roll".

But we are still no closer to giving Marius a single slang word, old or
new, which sums up all these diversions. How about "frolics"?

--
James

aquachimp

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Jan 6, 2010, 2:40:40 AM1/6/10
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On Jan 5, 5:14 pm, Marius Hancu <marius.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 5, 11:03 am, Wood Avens <woodav...@askjennison.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
> > >> >> of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
> > >> >> "amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).
> > >These are fine, but I'm looking for old or new slang designating that.
>
> > Are you looking for a noun meaning (more or less) loose living, or a
> > noun meaning a person who indulges in it, or an adjective for such a
> > person?  My mind is running over "lush" and "slag" and such-like (not
> > that either of these covers both drink and sex) -- is that the
> > category of word you want?.
>
> I want an slangy equivalent for:
>
> He has lots of "distractions"
> He has lots of "distracting stuff" going on around

Sounds like he's neurotic.

> He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
> reflect that)
>

And a slut (-:
> Marius Hancu

Django Cat

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aquachimp wrote:

> > He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
> > reflect that)
> >
>
> And a slut (-:

Not if the character's male.

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Django Cat

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Jan 6, 2010, 3:10:37 AM1/6/10
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James Hogg wrote:

Mmm, I think Jeffrey's 'vices' probably gets closest. I recently heard
someone say something like:

"I had an awful lot of Pils at the party last night" (then they
realised the ambiguity) "I mean, Pils Lager - not *pills* - that's one
of the few vices I haven't got".

DC
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James Hogg

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Jan 6, 2010, 3:26:33 AM1/6/10
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Yes, "vices" is a good word, but it's not exactly slang. Nor is the
old-fashioned "frolics". I found an innocent (?) form of frolics in the
following book title from 1883

Coney Island Frolics: How New York's gay girls and jolly boys enjoy
themselves by the sea!

--
James

the Omrud

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Jan 6, 2010, 4:10:47 AM1/6/10
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On 06/01/2010 07:38, James Hogg wrote:

> Don't forget the bluegrass version of Ian Dury's phrase, which I once
> saw on a T-shirt worn by Tim O'Brien: "Flatt and Scruggs and Rock'n'Roll".
>
> But we are still no closer to giving Marius a single slang word, old or
> new, which sums up all these diversions. How about "frolics"?

It's very kind of you, but it's a little too chilly out.

--
David

Marius Hancu

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Jan 6, 2010, 8:05:45 AM1/6/10
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Well, there's
"fun and frolics"
which is slang, but it means, it seems "ballocks."

Marius Hancu

Marius Hancu

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Jan 6, 2010, 8:10:44 AM1/6/10
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On Jan 6, 3:26 am, James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com> wrote:

Partridge lists:
"carryings-on"
in
A dictionary of slang and unconventional English

and seems quite good, though not an out and out slang, perhaps.

Marius Hancu

Wood Avens

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Jan 6, 2010, 8:22:43 AM1/6/10
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Rather outdated, and it doesn't immediately convey drinking. It's
more reminiscent of a stolen kiss with the housemaid behind the
parlour door.

What about "a fling"?

Cheryl

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Jan 6, 2010, 8:26:40 AM1/6/10
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Wood Avens wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 05:10:44 -0800 (PST), Marius Hancu
> <marius...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>

>> Partridge lists:
>> "carryings-on"
>> in
>> A dictionary of slang and unconventional English
>>
>> and seems quite good, though not an out and out slang, perhaps.
>
> Rather outdated, and it doesn't immediately convey drinking. It's
> more reminiscent of a stolen kiss with the housemaid behind the
> parlour door.

It could be used more generally - as could 'goings on', although I agree
that both are a bit dated.

> What about "a fling"?

It doesn't have the connotations of debauchery - or of drink and drugs.
A most respectable person leading a very quiet and retired life can have
a fling.

--
Cheryl

James Hogg

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Jan 6, 2010, 8:28:11 AM1/6/10
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Marius Hancu wrote:
> Partridge lists: "carryings-on" in A dictionary of slang and
> unconventional English
>
> and seems quite good, though not an out and out slang, perhaps.

It has connotations of "shenanigans", which is not what you want. I
still can't think of a slang word that covers all "dissipations".

--
James

Cheryl

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Jan 5, 2010, 11:33:13 AM1/5/10
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He has a very active social life.
He knows how to have a good time.
"Wild", maybe, or the old 'wine, women and song' phrase.
He's a real party animal.

None of them are very slangy, though.

There are terms for men who chase women, though, Hound dog? dog? what
were some of the terms used for Tiger Woods?

"Ladies' man' is rather genteel, and might merely mean a man who flirts
politely with the ladies, although it often doesn't.

You can call someone a drunk or a druggie or an addict, but I get the
impression you want something more general.

"Dissolute" isn't slang and isn't something you have; it's something you
are, but it can cover a wide range of activities.


--
Cheryl

aquachimp

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:03:06 AM1/6/10
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Ordinarily female I grant you, but I was unaware that women had
exclusive rights to it. Hardly fair that, unless there's a masculine
version.

Django Cat

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:10:08 AM1/6/10
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aquachimp wrote:

I think people have probably written PhDs on the reason why there isn't.

DC
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Django Cat

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:12:30 AM1/6/10
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Cheryl wrote:

But I've noticed 'having a fling' used commonly in BrE recently to mean
'extra-marital affair'.

DC
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Django Cat

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James Hogg wrote:

'Sowing your wild oats' - nah. 'Partying'? Not quite BrE, yet...

I'm drawn to 'having a good time'.

DC
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Mike Lyle

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:27:45 AM1/6/10
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Cheryl wrote:
[...]

>
> "Dissolute" isn't slang and isn't something you have; it's something
> you are, but it can cover a wide range of activities.

The dissolution of the monasteries sounds like much more fun than it
actually was. Though some monks were certainly at it like knives.

--
Mike.


LFS

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:36:14 AM1/6/10
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Me too, although I wouldn't thank you for describing me as a good time
girl.


--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)

Cheryl

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:46:31 AM1/6/10
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Maybe that meaning was exported from North America; I've been familiar
with "fling = extra-marital affair = bit on the side" for quite a while,
although I think of that meaning as a kind of subset of the usual
meaning of 'short-lived and superficial sexual affair'. If the one of
the people engaged in the fling is married, it involves an extra-marital
affair, but unmarried people can have a fling with each other.0

Being passionately devoted to the other person would disqualify the
affair as a 'fling', even if the relationship was very short. 'Flings'
aren't intended to be taken really seriously.

At least, the person saying 'I had a fling with X' is talking about a
little bit of fun and games, nothing serious. X may be under the
impression that his or her soulmate has just shown up, and they'll be
together forever as soon as the spouse(s) are out of the way.

--
Cheryl

Mike Barnes

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:53:01 AM1/6/10
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Django Cat <nota...@address.co.uk>:

Unless he's gay.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

Django Cat

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Jan 6, 2010, 3:59:17 PM1/6/10
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Cheryl wrote:

> > I want an slangy equivalent for:
> >
> > He has lots of "distractions"
> > He has lots of "distracting stuff" going on around
> > He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
> > reflect that)
> >
> > Marius Hancu
>
> He has a very active social life.
> He knows how to have a good time.
> "Wild", maybe, or the old 'wine, women and song' phrase.
> He's a real party animal.

He gets about a bit.

--

Robin Bignall

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Jan 6, 2010, 5:09:30 PM1/6/10
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If they haven't, nows yer chance...
But what is the male equivalent of "slut"? "Slob" covers the "letting
yourself become slovenly" part of it, but not the sexual degradation.
--
Robin
(BrE)
Herts, England

tony cooper

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On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:09:30 +0000, Robin Bignall
<docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:10:08 GMT, "Django Cat"
><nota...@address.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>aquachimp wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 6, 9:06�am, "Django Cat" <notar...@address.co.uk> wrote:
>>> > aquachimp wrote:
>>> > > > He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
>>> > > > reflect that)
>>> >
>>> > > And a slut (-:
>>> >
>>> > Not if the character's male.
>>>
>>> Ordinarily female I grant you, but I was unaware that women had
>>> exclusive rights to it. Hardly fair that, unless there's a masculine
>>> version.
>>
>>I think people have probably written PhDs on the reason why there isn't.
>>
>If they haven't, nows yer chance...
>But what is the male equivalent of "slut"?

Stud.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Peter Duncanson (BrE)

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Jan 6, 2010, 7:17:42 PM1/6/10
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Yes, although being called a stud is more of a compliment than being
called a slut.

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

Chuck Riggs

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Even calling Laura a girl, let alone a good time one, can get a person
in deep kimchi, as I found out one day.
--

Regards,

Chuck Riggs,
An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE

Chuck Riggs

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:49:08 AM1/7/10
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:16:31 -0330, Cheryl <cper...@mun.ca> wrote:

<snip>

>Maybe that meaning was exported from North America; I've been familiar
>with "fling = extra-marital affair = bit on the side" for quite a while,
>although I think of that meaning as a kind of subset of the usual
>meaning of 'short-lived and superficial sexual affair'. If the one of
>the people engaged in the fling is married, it involves an extra-marital
>affair, but unmarried people can have a fling with each other.

Having not heard the expression for years, I thought flings were all
flung out.

<snip>

Chuck Riggs

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Is there a noun form of dissipated?

franzi

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On Jan 5, 4:14 pm, Marius Hancu <marius.ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 5, 11:03 am, Wood Avens <woodav...@askjennison.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
> > >> >> of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
> > >> >> "amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).
> > >These are fine, but I'm looking for old or new slang designating that.
>
> > Are you looking for a noun meaning (more or less) loose living, or a
> > noun meaning a person who indulges in it, or an adjective for such a
> > person?  My mind is running over "lush" and "slag" and such-like (not
> > that either of these covers both drink and sex) -- is that the
> > category of word you want?.
>
> I want an slangy equivalent for:
>
> He has lots of "distractions"
> He has lots of "distracting stuff" going on around
> He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
> reflect that)
>
Not a slang term as such, or a particularly standard form, but if you
just want to rephrase what you have indicated in a slangy way, you
could say he has lots of disreputable habits.
--
franzi

James Hogg

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Jan 7, 2010, 9:11:00 AM1/7/10
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My synonym dictionary gives "dissipater". Here are other terms:

rake, profligate, debauchee, lecher, libertine, prodigal; playboy,
rakehell, blood, rip swinger, fast man, man about town,; womanizer,
lady-killer, bedhopper, lover, ladies' man, wolf; adulterer. fornicator,
seducer, satyr, goat, old goat, dirty old man, pervert, letch; Don Juan,
Lothario, Cassanova.

--
James

CDB

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Chuck Riggs wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:36:14 +0000, LFS
> <la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Django Cat wrote:
>>> James Hogg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marius Hancu wrote:
>>>>> Partridge lists: "carryings-on" in A dictionary of slang and
>>>>> unconventional English
>>>>>
>>>>> and seems quite good, though not an out and out slang, perhaps.
>>>> It has connotations of "shenanigans", which is not what you
>>>> want. I still can't think of a slang word that covers all
>>>> "dissipations".
>>>
>>> 'Sowing your wild oats' - nah. 'Partying'? Not quite BrE, yet...
>>>
>>> I'm drawn to 'having a good time'.
>>>
>>
>> Me too, although I wouldn't thank you for describing me as a good
>> time girl.
>
> Even calling Laura a girl, let alone a good time one, can get a
> person in deep kimchi, as I found out one day.
>
Interesting use of the word. I was thinking, while reading another
thread, that "I like a dog with kimchi" would work in some places.


CDB

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James Hogg wrote:

> Chuck Riggs wrote:
>> "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <ma...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
>>> tony cooper <tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>>> Robin Bignall <docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Django Cat" <nota...@address.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> aquachimp wrote:
>>>>>>> "Django Cat" <notar...@address.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> aquachimp wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't seem to reflect that)
>
>>>>>>>>> And a slut (-:
>
>>>>>>>> Not if the character's male.
>
>>>>>>> Ordinarily female I grant you, but I was unaware that
>>>>>>> women had exclusive rights to it. Hardly fair that, unless
>>>>>>> there's a masculine version.
>
>>>>>> I think people have probably written PhDs on the reason why
>>>>>> there isn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>> If they haven't, nows yer chance... But what is the male
>>>>> equivalent of "slut"?
>
>>>> Stud.
>
>>> Yes, although being called a stud is more of a compliment than
>>> being called a slut.
>
I believe I heard "slut" used in mock reproach to a male in the early
1960s, a fellow student in residence whose prowess was the envy of
all.

>
>> Is there a noun form of dissipated?
>
> My synonym dictionary gives "dissipater". Here are other terms:
>
> rake, profligate, debauchee, lecher, libertine, prodigal; playboy,
> rakehell, blood, rip swinger, fast man, man about town,; womanizer,
> lady-killer, bedhopper, lover, ladies' man, wolf; adulterer.
> fornicator, seducer, satyr, goat, old goat, dirty old man, pervert,
> letch; Don Juan, Lothario, Cassanova.
>
I don't think anyone has mentioned "demirep" yet. At least one
definition at OneLook doesn't restrict it to female debauchees. It's
dead old-fashioned, though, and I only remember reading it used of
women.
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/demirep
>
There are also some variations on a theme of looseness: loose woman,
loose-living.


Marius Hancu

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On Jan 7, 10:59 am, "CDB" <bellema...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> James Hogg wrote:
> > Chuck Riggs wrote:
> >> "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <m...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
> >>> tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> women.http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/demirep

>
> There are also some variations on a theme of looseness: loose woman,
> loose-living.

I've found
---
"good time Charley":
a playboy, a dissolute man
occas. of an woman
http://tinyurl.com/y8kloc4
---

Thank you all.
Marius Hancu


Pat Durkin

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Jan 7, 2010, 2:19:10 PM1/7/10
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"Marius Hancu" <marius...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:682e2867-1b89-4b86...@o9g2000vbj.googlegroups.com...
> Hello:

>
> Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
> of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
> "amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).

These aren't slang, but do refer to activities that would be frowned
upon as proper behaviour for the serious student:
Reverting to the main question, I don't recall anyone mentioning
"license" (licentiousness), or "disporting>disport". Granted, not
slang, but whether indicating the sexual side or just the playful
side, they are distractions.
Disport>disporting:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Disporting?r=66

"Sporting life" was another term referring to wild and reckless
behaviour, and "sporting women (ladies)" referred to the playmates of
the so-called gentlemen. About as close to slang as one gets, I
suppose, though not necessarily BrE.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sports

Or maybe just "sport". A lot of meanings under nouns, and verbs that
include the meanings you suggest.


I think the use of Sporting Life as the name of a character in "Porgy
and Bess" indicates pretty much the kind of fun and games one might
have found distracting.
"In his later career Calloway became a popular personality, appearing
in a number of films and stage productions that utilized both his
acting and singing talents. In 1952 he played the prominent role of
"Sportin' Life" in a production of the Gershwin opera Porgy and Bess
with William Warfield and Leontyne Price as the title characters. "


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cab_Calloway#Grammy_history


Frank ess

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Current use of ambi-sexual "slut" can be seen in some online forums:
it seems to be applied to members who are driven to reply in some
fashion to any and all posts that come into their view. In some
arenas, where number of posts is for some reason rewarded, the slut's
chosen designation may be something like "Board Slut".

Having again viewed one such Board, I note the former Slut has become
"In Recovery". Progress?

--
Frank ess

Robin Bignall

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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:11:00 +0100, James Hogg <Jas....@gOUTmail.com>
wrote:

None of those seems to have the mixture of loose morals and
slovenliness that "slut" implies.

Frank ess

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I saw one of those performances of _Porgy and Bess_, at the Los
Angeles Philharmonic Auditorium.

http://www.losangelestheatres.googlepages.com/auditorium

Seems to me it was 1954. I had taken my girlfriend to see the movie
_Carmen Jones_.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046828/

When she mentioned my delight in the musical aspects, her parents
invited me to join them for the P&B.

The previous summer I had been working in downtown Los Angeles. It was
a peak smog year, so taking lunch break on a balcony several stories
up was a mixed blessing: the place was outdoors, within a hundred
yards or so of a carillon that played "Summertime" at noon, but the
eye-watering was physical rather than emotional.

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Frank ess

Chuck Riggs

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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:58:49 -0500, "CDB" <belle...@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

To be "in deep kimchi" is an expression I remember from the 1970s,
popular with American military personnel and civil servants alike, if
not the general public, which meant to be in dire straits. I believe
it originated from the pungent smell of cabbage in pits, as Koreans
aged it to make kimchi, a popular Korean dish, during their war with
America. From what I've been told, a person could fall into one of
these pits and, thus, be "in deep kimchi".
If there is a better explanation, I haven't heard it.

Chuck Riggs

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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:29:46 +0000, Robin Bignall
<docr...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"Goat" might.

Wood Avens

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On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:26:39 +0000, Chuck Riggs <chr...@eircom.net>
wrote:

Goat imples sex, but not drink. "Going on a bender" involves drink
but not necessarily sex.

We're heading closer to the conclusion that there isn't one.

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Leslie Danks

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Wood Avens wrote:

[...]

> Goat imples sex, but not drink. "Going on a bender" involves drink
> but not necessarily sex.
>
> We're heading closer to the conclusion that there isn't one.

Then we'll have to invent one. I suggest "caprisot".

--
Les (BrE)

James Hogg

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I immediately googled that and found it as an occasional typo for the
name Capristo. Google Images suggests that the connotations of
"caprisot" have more to do with sex than with booze.

--
James

CDB

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Chuck Riggs wrote:
> "CDB" belle...@sympatico.ca wrote:
>> Chuck Riggs wrote:
>>> LFS <la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Django Cat wrote:
>
[myself, I like James H's "dissipations"]

>>>>>
>>>>> I'm drawn to 'having a good time'.
>>>>
>>>> Me too, although I wouldn't thank you for describing me as a good
>>>> time girl.
>>>
>>> Even calling Laura a girl, let alone a good time one, can get a
>>> person in deep kimchi, as I found out one day.
>>>
>> Interesting use of the word. I was thinking, while reading another
>> thread, that "I like a dog with kimchi" would work in some places.
>
> To be "in deep kimchi" is an expression I remember from the 1970s,
> popular with American military personnel and civil servants alike,
> if not the general public, which meant to be in dire straits. I
> believe it originated from the pungent smell of cabbage in pits, as
> Koreans aged it to make kimchi, a popular Korean dish, during their
> war with America. From what I've been told, a person could fall
> into one of these pits and, thus, be "in deep kimchi".
> If there is a better explanation, I haven't heard it.
>
I like that one too. Good stuff, kimchi. The Happy Four* Restaurant
in Ottawa South used to serve it with their satay pork skewers. I can
still go there, because it is now The Sacred Garden, serving Buddhist
Chinese food -- no dog, no pork; no kimchi either, though.
>
*A strange name for anything from the Chinese sphere of cultural
influence, come to think of it. The word "four" (si4 in Mandarin) is
usually considered ill-omened, because it sounds like "die" (si3).


CDB

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Isn't Capricorn both goat and fish? Not the best end of each,
granted. Sting like a butterfly, float like a bee.


Skitt

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We Capricorns don't believe in Zodiac meanings.
--
Skitt (AmE)

Cheryl

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Jan 8, 2010, 2:33:56 PM1/8/10
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Chuck Riggs wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:16:31 -0330, Cheryl <cper...@mun.ca> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Maybe that meaning was exported from North America; I've been familiar
>> with "fling = extra-marital affair = bit on the side" for quite a while,
>> although I think of that meaning as a kind of subset of the usual
>> meaning of 'short-lived and superficial sexual affair'. If the one of
>> the people engaged in the fling is married, it involves an extra-marital
>> affair, but unmarried people can have a fling with each other.
>
> Having not heard the expression for years, I thought flings were all
> flung out.

I'm think I've heard it fairly recently. I'm sure people would know what
I meant if I said "Joe said he just had a fling with that co-worker, but
his wife took the kids, moved in with her mother and filed for divorce
anyway."

And I've heard it used for casual sex among people who don't have a
spouse at home likely to disagree strongly with the claim that a casual
fling doesn't mean much.

--
Cheryl

CDB

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Indeed. There's a song called "All in Fun" that mentions GTCs. "For
we are strictly goodtime Charlies, who like to drink and dance around,
and maybe kick romance around...".
>
I had hoped to find a version of it on YouTube, preferably the one by
Jeri Southern that I liked as a teenager, but there aren't any good
ones there. The lyrics are at
http://www.cduniverse.com/lyrics.asp?id=10937353 .


CDB

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We Scorpions are very skeptical of them too,
>
--
Not Mrs Briggs


James Hogg

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We Geminis are in two minds.

--
James

aquachimp

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On Jan 6, 11:09 pm, Robin Bignall <docro...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:10:08 GMT, "Django Cat"
>
>
>
> <notar...@address.co.uk> wrote:
> >aquachimp wrote:

>
> >> On Jan 6, 9:06 am, "Django Cat" <notar...@address.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > aquachimp wrote:
> >> > > > He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
> >> > > > reflect that)
>
> >> > > And a slut (-:
>
> >> > Not if the character's male.
>
> >> Ordinarily  female I grant you, but I was unaware that women had
> >> exclusive rights to it. Hardly fair that, unless there's a masculine
> >> version.
>
> >I think people have probably written PhDs on the reason why there isn't.
>
> If they haven't, nows yer chance...
> But what is the male equivalent of "slut"?  "Slob" covers the "letting
> yourself become slovenly" part of it, but not the sexual degradation.


A "rake" I read; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rake_%28character%29


R H Draney

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aquachimp filted:
>
>On Jan 6, 11:09=A0pm, Robin Bignall <docro...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>> But what is the male equivalent of "slut"? =A0"Slob" covers the "letting


>> yourself become slovenly" part of it, but not the sexual degradation.
>
>
>A "rake" I read; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rake_%28character%29

I assume we've all seen this by now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKL7nyJrPAM

....r


--
A pessimist sees the glass as half empty.
An optometrist asks whether you see the glass
more full like this?...or like this?

aquachimp

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Jan 9, 2010, 5:33:16 AM1/9/10
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I hadn't, but I am curious as to why you would have assumed we would
all have seen it by now.

Chuck Riggs

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I agree with your definition, but far from being modern, I thought
"fling", as we're using the term, was popular back in the 1950s and
perhaps in the 1960s, but not now. For some reason, I can not find the
meaning we've been discussing in my copy of the OED, to verify this.

Chuck Riggs

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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:20:25 -0500, "CDB" <belle...@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

I've never had the chance to try Korean food. Was The Happy Four a
Korean restaurant?

Chuck Riggs

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If you are saying we must eliminate "goat" as a candidate for the male
equivalent of a slut because sluts have a drinking problem, I disagree
that sluts are necessarily dipsomaniacs. I've known...well, never
mind.

CDB

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Chuck Riggs wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:20:25 -0500, "CDB" <belle...@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Chuck Riggs wrote:
>
[road to Hell]

>
>>> To be "in deep kimchi" is an expression I remember from the 1970s,
>>> popular with American military personnel and civil servants alike,
>>> if not the general public, which meant to be in dire straits. I
>>> believe it originated from the pungent smell of cabbage in pits,
>>> as Koreans aged it to make kimchi, a popular Korean dish, during
>>> their war with America. From what I've been told, a person could
>>> fall into one of these pits and, thus, be "in deep kimchi".
>>> If there is a better explanation, I haven't heard it.
>>>
>> I like that one too. Good stuff, kimchi. The Happy Four*
>> Restaurant in Ottawa South used to serve it with their satay pork
>> skewers. I can still go there, because it is now The Sacred
>> Garden, serving Buddhist Chinese food -- no dog, no pork; no
>> kimchi either, though.
>>>
>> *A strange name for anything from the Chinese sphere of cultural
>> influence, come to think of it. The word "four" (si4 in Mandarin)
>> is usually considered ill-omened, because it sounds like "die"
>> (si3).
>>
> I've never had the chance to try Korean food. Was The Happy Four a
> Korean restaurant?
>
More like Chinesian, Chinese fusion before that was fashionable.
There were some Korean or Korean-influenced dishes, but you could also
get Dried Shredded Beef with Carrot*, and Three Treasure Duck Soup.
>
*You smile blissfully as your lips and tongue slowly turn dayglo
purple and begin pulsing in time with your heart. Hunan, I think.


Skitt

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aquachimp wrote:
> R H Draney wrote:
>> aquachimp filted:
>>> Robin Bignall wrote:

>>>> But what is the male equivalent of "slut"? =A0"Slob" covers the
>>>> "letting yourself become slovenly" part of it, but not the sexual
>>>> degradation.
>>>
>>> A "rake" I read; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rake_%28character%29
>>
>> I assume we've all seen this by now:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKL7nyJrPAM

<snip>

> I hadn't, but I am curious as to why you would have assumed we would
> all have seen it by now.

It has been mentioned in this group before. Besides, I think that there are
quite a few Jeopardy watchers here. I, for one, saw it on TV when it was
first broadcast.
--
Skitt (AmE)

Django Cat

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Chuck Riggs wrote:


A friend of mine used it just a few weeks ago to describe an affair
which another friend's daughter had had, and which ended up in
extrememly tragic circumstances. It did strike me as an unusual usage
at the time.

DC
--

Django Cat

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James Hogg wrote:

We librans would like some balance in the discussion.

--

Django Cat

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Frank ess wrote:

>
> When she mentioned my delight in the musical aspects, her parents
> invited me to join them for the P&B.

What's a P&B, Frank?

DC
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Chuck Riggs

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Yes, I would have thought the word was deader than a doornail, an
expression that has bit the dust, which has, too.

Wood Avens

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On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:41:14 +0000, Chuck Riggs <chr...@eircom.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:40:25 GMT, "Django Cat"

The reason I put it forward was that it was used, in precisly the
context Mario is seeking, in an article in The Times by Libby Purves
about the Meredith Kercher murder. I found the article by Googling on
the search string "sex, drink and drugs". I was a bit surprised, too.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/libby_purves/article6946545.ece
or
http://tinyurl.com/ycmvtdm

Marius Hancu

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On Jan 10, 10:24 am, Wood Avens <woodav...@askjennison.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:41:14 +0000, Chuck Riggs <chri...@eircom.net>
> wrote:

> >On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:40:25 GMT, "Django Cat"
> ><notar...@address.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>Chuck Riggs wrote:
>

> >>> On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:03:56 -0330, Cheryl <cperk...@mun.ca> wrote:
>
> >>> > Chuck Riggs wrote:

> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/libby_purves/arti...
> orhttp://tinyurl.com/ycmvtdm

Are you talking about "fling?"

Indeed the title of the article is:
----
Fantasy world fuelled by sex, drink and drugs
The bravado of the ‘sexually adventurous’, such as Amanda Knox, masks
the real damage caused by a life of endless flings
----

Now, my reservation about it was that I thought "fling" is mainly
about "sex," but it seems I was wrong, it's wider than that, it's
about "dissipation" in general:

---
fling

3b : an affair or a period marked by uninhibited gaiety, self-
indulgence, or dissipation <determined to have one last fling before
he sailed>

Webster's Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged.
----

--
Thanks.
Marius Hancu

Mike Lyle

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We Aquarians want to pour cold water on the whole idea of astrology.

--
Mike.


LFS

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We Taureans think it's a load of bull.

--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)

Wood Avens

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And we Taureans think it's a load of bull.

--

Katy Jennison

franzi

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Jan 10, 2010, 2:47:39 PM1/10/10
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Within 3 minutes of one another. Did Taurus slip over into Gemini a
while back?
--
franzi

Mike Lyle

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Jan 10, 2010, 2:53:32 PM1/10/10
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Can't be "pnb", which, on my shopping lists, means "peanut butter".

--
Mike.


Jerry Friedman

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Jan 10, 2010, 3:12:36 PM1/10/10
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On Jan 5, 9:33 am, Cheryl <cperk...@mun.ca> wrote:
> Marius Hancu wrote:
...

> > I want an slangy equivalent for:
>
> > He has lots of "distractions"
> > He has lots of "distracting stuff" going on around


> > He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
> > reflect that)
>

> > Marius Hancu
>
> He has a very active social life.
> He knows how to have a good time.
> "Wild", maybe, or the old 'wine, women and song' phrase.
> He's a real party animal.

He's a bit of a lad? (British and maybe in other countries, but not
American.)

> None of them are very slangy, though.
>
> There are terms for men who chase women, though, Hound dog? dog? what
> were some of the terms used for Tiger Woods?

Horndog?

> "Ladies' man' is rather genteel, and might merely mean a man who flirts
> politely with the ladies, although it often doesn't.
>
> You can call someone a drunk or a druggie or an addict, but I get the
> impression you want something more general.

As I recall, Marius used "excesses" in another thread. Has anyone
mentioned "fleshpots" yet?

--
Jerry Friedman

Nick Spalding

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Jan 10, 2010, 3:21:02 PM1/10/10
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Django Cat wrote, in <Rug2n.24233$Ym4....@text.news.virginmedia.com>
on Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:47:45 GMT:

Its a reference back to Pat Durkin's post - Porgy and Bess.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE

Django Cat

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Nick Spalding wrote:

Ah. Yes.

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LFS

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Jan 10, 2010, 4:13:35 PM1/10/10
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Didn't I just say that? Great (Taurean) minds and all that...

Robin Bignall

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COD10's main definition is
1 a short period of enjoyment or wild behaviour: a final fling. � a
short sexual relationship.

I don't find it dated, but I'm older than Libby Purves.
--
Robin
(BrE)
Herts, England

Robin Bignall

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Jan 10, 2010, 4:29:55 PM1/10/10
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We Saggitarians like to keep second strings to our bows.

James Hogg

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Jan 10, 2010, 4:40:27 PM1/10/10
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That extra g-string should fit you to a t.

Virgos, of course, have no experience of this, and Pisces find it all a
bit fishy.

I'm just waiting for a good joke about Cancer.

--
James

Pat Durkin

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"Nick Spalding" <spal...@iol.ie> wrote in message
news:vidkk5tge5f194qlk...@4ax.com...

Oh, I just remembered a nursery rhyme that uses "sport" for fun times:

The little dog laughed to see such sport, and the dish ran away with
the spoon!
(But I didn't associate the P&B with an earlier post.) Now, of
course, Sportin' Life lives again.


Jerry Friedman

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As long as she's healthy.

--
Jerry Friedman

Bob Martin

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I'm a Cancerian and this whole thread is making me crabby.

Chuck Riggs

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Is timesonline the Internet version of the London Times or The Times,
whichever it is called?

Chuck Riggs

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We Geminis are divided on the issue.

the Omrud

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Jan 11, 2010, 6:54:13 AM1/11/10
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On 11/01/2010 11:44, Chuck Riggs wrote:

> Is timesonline the Internet version of the London Times or The Times,
> whichever it is called?

Yes, of both The Times and The Sunday Times.

--
David

Wood Avens

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:44:39 +0000, Chuck Riggs <chr...@eircom.net>
wrote:


>


>Is timesonline the Internet version of the London Times or The Times,
>whichever it is called?

Yes.

Chuck Riggs

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On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:24:03 +0000, Wood Avens
<wood...@askjennison.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:44:39 +0000, Chuck Riggs <chr...@eircom.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Is timesonline the Internet version of the London Times or The Times,
>>whichever it is called?
>
>Yes.

Thank you, David and Katy. If I weren't already saturated by news from
The New York Times and the Irish Times every day, I'd probably read
it.

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