Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
"amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
> Hello:
>
> Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
> of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
> "amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).
"Passtimes" perhaps, or is it "Pastimes"? � Agent's spell checker
accepts either.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
Not quite what you're looking for, but these come to mind:
A "dissolute life" (but that's not slang).
A "misspent youth" is common, but always refers back to some earlier
time; for some reason it always makes me think of snooker halls.
--
David
> >> Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
> >> of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
> >> "amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).
>
> > "Passtimes" perhaps, or is it "Pastimes"? – Agent's spell checker
> > accepts either.
>
> Not quite what you're looking for, but these come to mind:
>
> A "dissolute life" (but that's not slang).
>
> A "misspent youth" is common, but always refers back to some earlier
> time; for some reason it always makes me think of snooker halls.
These are fine, but I'm looking for old or new slang designating that.
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Are you looking for a noun meaning (more or less) loose living, or a
noun meaning a person who indulges in it, or an adjective for such a
person? My mind is running over "lush" and "slag" and such-like (not
that either of these covers both drink and sex) -- is that the
category of word you want?.
--
Katy Jennison
spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @
> >> >> Any BrE slang words replacing "distractions" as a generic indication
> >> >> of loose life? Something that would cover all of the possible
> >> >> "amusements" (drinking, sex, etc).
> >These are fine, but I'm looking for old or new slang designating that.
>
> Are you looking for a noun meaning (more or less) loose living, or a
> noun meaning a person who indulges in it, or an adjective for such a
> person? My mind is running over "lush" and "slag" and such-like (not
> that either of these covers both drink and sex) -- is that the
> category of word you want?.
I want an slangy equivalent for:
He has lots of "distractions"
He has lots of "distracting stuff" going on around
He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
reflect that)
Marius Hancu
Those are all vices (not sure if that was ever slang). Temptations,
mayhaps?
--Jeff
--
The comfort of the wealthy has always
depended upon an abundant supply of
the poor. --Voltaire
Well, the late, great Ian Dury popularised the phrase "sex and drugs
and rock and roll" in BrE with a song of that name from 1977:
"Haven't seen you since college, man. How's your new job in the bank?"
"Well ,it's not exactly sex and drugs and rock and roll"...
'Sex and drugs and rock and roll' is apparently also the title of a new
biopic about Dury starring that bloke that was Gollum in LOTRs.
Wiki -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_&_Drugs_&_Rock_&_Roll
suggests that the lyric 'sex and drugs and rock and roll' was intended
to echo the phrase 'wine, women and song', something which has never
crossed my mind before. 'Wine, women and song' itself may be closer to
what you're looking for.
DC. 7:20 AM. "Tea, PC and thick thick snow is all my brain and body
needs".
--
Don't forget the bluegrass version of Ian Dury's phrase, which I once
saw on a T-shirt worn by Tim O'Brien: "Flatt and Scruggs and Rock'n'Roll".
But we are still no closer to giving Marius a single slang word, old or
new, which sums up all these diversions. How about "frolics"?
--
James
Sounds like he's neurotic.
> He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
> reflect that)
>
And a slut (-:
> Marius Hancu
> > He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
> > reflect that)
> >
>
> And a slut (-:
Not if the character's male.
--
Mmm, I think Jeffrey's 'vices' probably gets closest. I recently heard
someone say something like:
"I had an awful lot of Pils at the party last night" (then they
realised the ambiguity) "I mean, Pils Lager - not *pills* - that's one
of the few vices I haven't got".
DC
--
Yes, "vices" is a good word, but it's not exactly slang. Nor is the
old-fashioned "frolics". I found an innocent (?) form of frolics in the
following book title from 1883
Coney Island Frolics: How New York's gay girls and jolly boys enjoy
themselves by the sea!
--
James
> Don't forget the bluegrass version of Ian Dury's phrase, which I once
> saw on a T-shirt worn by Tim O'Brien: "Flatt and Scruggs and Rock'n'Roll".
>
> But we are still no closer to giving Marius a single slang word, old or
> new, which sums up all these diversions. How about "frolics"?
It's very kind of you, but it's a little too chilly out.
--
David
Well, there's
"fun and frolics"
which is slang, but it means, it seems "ballocks."
Marius Hancu
Partridge lists:
"carryings-on"
in
A dictionary of slang and unconventional English
and seems quite good, though not an out and out slang, perhaps.
Marius Hancu
Rather outdated, and it doesn't immediately convey drinking. It's
more reminiscent of a stolen kiss with the housemaid behind the
parlour door.
What about "a fling"?
It could be used more generally - as could 'goings on', although I agree
that both are a bit dated.
> What about "a fling"?
It doesn't have the connotations of debauchery - or of drink and drugs.
A most respectable person leading a very quiet and retired life can have
a fling.
--
Cheryl
It has connotations of "shenanigans", which is not what you want. I
still can't think of a slang word that covers all "dissipations".
--
James
He has a very active social life.
He knows how to have a good time.
"Wild", maybe, or the old 'wine, women and song' phrase.
He's a real party animal.
None of them are very slangy, though.
There are terms for men who chase women, though, Hound dog? dog? what
were some of the terms used for Tiger Woods?
"Ladies' man' is rather genteel, and might merely mean a man who flirts
politely with the ladies, although it often doesn't.
You can call someone a drunk or a druggie or an addict, but I get the
impression you want something more general.
"Dissolute" isn't slang and isn't something you have; it's something you
are, but it can cover a wide range of activities.
--
Cheryl
Ordinarily female I grant you, but I was unaware that women had
exclusive rights to it. Hardly fair that, unless there's a masculine
version.
I think people have probably written PhDs on the reason why there isn't.
DC
--
But I've noticed 'having a fling' used commonly in BrE recently to mean
'extra-marital affair'.
DC
--
'Sowing your wild oats' - nah. 'Partying'? Not quite BrE, yet...
I'm drawn to 'having a good time'.
DC
--
The dissolution of the monasteries sounds like much more fun than it
actually was. Though some monks were certainly at it like knives.
--
Mike.
Me too, although I wouldn't thank you for describing me as a good time
girl.
--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
Maybe that meaning was exported from North America; I've been familiar
with "fling = extra-marital affair = bit on the side" for quite a while,
although I think of that meaning as a kind of subset of the usual
meaning of 'short-lived and superficial sexual affair'. If the one of
the people engaged in the fling is married, it involves an extra-marital
affair, but unmarried people can have a fling with each other.0
Being passionately devoted to the other person would disqualify the
affair as a 'fling', even if the relationship was very short. 'Flings'
aren't intended to be taken really seriously.
At least, the person saying 'I had a fling with X' is talking about a
little bit of fun and games, nothing serious. X may be under the
impression that his or her soulmate has just shown up, and they'll be
together forever as soon as the spouse(s) are out of the way.
--
Cheryl
> > I want an slangy equivalent for:
> >
> > He has lots of "distractions"
> > He has lots of "distracting stuff" going on around
> > He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
> > reflect that)
> >
> > Marius Hancu
>
> He has a very active social life.
> He knows how to have a good time.
> "Wild", maybe, or the old 'wine, women and song' phrase.
> He's a real party animal.
He gets about a bit.
--
If they haven't, nows yer chance...
But what is the male equivalent of "slut"? "Slob" covers the "letting
yourself become slovenly" part of it, but not the sexual degradation.
--
Robin
(BrE)
Herts, England
>On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:10:08 GMT, "Django Cat"
><nota...@address.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>aquachimp wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 6, 9:06�am, "Django Cat" <notar...@address.co.uk> wrote:
>>> > aquachimp wrote:
>>> > > > He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
>>> > > > reflect that)
>>> >
>>> > > And a slut (-:
>>> >
>>> > Not if the character's male.
>>>
>>> Ordinarily female I grant you, but I was unaware that women had
>>> exclusive rights to it. Hardly fair that, unless there's a masculine
>>> version.
>>
>>I think people have probably written PhDs on the reason why there isn't.
>>
>If they haven't, nows yer chance...
>But what is the male equivalent of "slut"?
Stud.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
Yes, although being called a stud is more of a compliment than being
called a slut.
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Even calling Laura a girl, let alone a good time one, can get a person
in deep kimchi, as I found out one day.
--
Regards,
Chuck Riggs,
An American who lives near Dublin, Ireland and usually spells in BrE
<snip>
>Maybe that meaning was exported from North America; I've been familiar
>with "fling = extra-marital affair = bit on the side" for quite a while,
>although I think of that meaning as a kind of subset of the usual
>meaning of 'short-lived and superficial sexual affair'. If the one of
>the people engaged in the fling is married, it involves an extra-marital
>affair, but unmarried people can have a fling with each other.
Having not heard the expression for years, I thought flings were all
flung out.
<snip>
Is there a noun form of dissipated?
My synonym dictionary gives "dissipater". Here are other terms:
rake, profligate, debauchee, lecher, libertine, prodigal; playboy,
rakehell, blood, rip swinger, fast man, man about town,; womanizer,
lady-killer, bedhopper, lover, ladies' man, wolf; adulterer. fornicator,
seducer, satyr, goat, old goat, dirty old man, pervert, letch; Don Juan,
Lothario, Cassanova.
--
James
I've found
---
"good time Charley":
a playboy, a dissolute man
occas. of an woman
http://tinyurl.com/y8kloc4
---
Thank you all.
Marius Hancu
These aren't slang, but do refer to activities that would be frowned
upon as proper behaviour for the serious student:
Reverting to the main question, I don't recall anyone mentioning
"license" (licentiousness), or "disporting>disport". Granted, not
slang, but whether indicating the sexual side or just the playful
side, they are distractions.
Disport>disporting:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Disporting?r=66
"Sporting life" was another term referring to wild and reckless
behaviour, and "sporting women (ladies)" referred to the playmates of
the so-called gentlemen. About as close to slang as one gets, I
suppose, though not necessarily BrE.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sports
Or maybe just "sport". A lot of meanings under nouns, and verbs that
include the meanings you suggest.
I think the use of Sporting Life as the name of a character in "Porgy
and Bess" indicates pretty much the kind of fun and games one might
have found distracting.
"In his later career Calloway became a popular personality, appearing
in a number of films and stage productions that utilized both his
acting and singing talents. In 1952 he played the prominent role of
"Sportin' Life" in a production of the Gershwin opera Porgy and Bess
with William Warfield and Leontyne Price as the title characters. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cab_Calloway#Grammy_history
Current use of ambi-sexual "slut" can be seen in some online forums:
it seems to be applied to members who are driven to reply in some
fashion to any and all posts that come into their view. In some
arenas, where number of posts is for some reason rewarded, the slut's
chosen designation may be something like "Board Slut".
Having again viewed one such Board, I note the former Slut has become
"In Recovery". Progress?
--
Frank ess
None of those seems to have the mixture of loose morals and
slovenliness that "slut" implies.
I saw one of those performances of _Porgy and Bess_, at the Los
Angeles Philharmonic Auditorium.
http://www.losangelestheatres.googlepages.com/auditorium
Seems to me it was 1954. I had taken my girlfriend to see the movie
_Carmen Jones_.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046828/
When she mentioned my delight in the musical aspects, her parents
invited me to join them for the P&B.
The previous summer I had been working in downtown Los Angeles. It was
a peak smog year, so taking lunch break on a balcony several stories
up was a mixed blessing: the place was outdoors, within a hundred
yards or so of a carillon that played "Summertime" at noon, but the
eye-watering was physical rather than emotional.
--
Frank ess
To be "in deep kimchi" is an expression I remember from the 1970s,
popular with American military personnel and civil servants alike, if
not the general public, which meant to be in dire straits. I believe
it originated from the pungent smell of cabbage in pits, as Koreans
aged it to make kimchi, a popular Korean dish, during their war with
America. From what I've been told, a person could fall into one of
these pits and, thus, be "in deep kimchi".
If there is a better explanation, I haven't heard it.
Goat imples sex, but not drink. "Going on a bender" involves drink
but not necessarily sex.
We're heading closer to the conclusion that there isn't one.
--
Katy Jennison
spamtrap: remove the first two letters after the @
[...]
> Goat imples sex, but not drink. "Going on a bender" involves drink
> but not necessarily sex.
>
> We're heading closer to the conclusion that there isn't one.
Then we'll have to invent one. I suggest "caprisot".
--
Les (BrE)
I immediately googled that and found it as an occasional typo for the
name Capristo. Google Images suggests that the connotations of
"caprisot" have more to do with sex than with booze.
--
James
We Capricorns don't believe in Zodiac meanings.
--
Skitt (AmE)
I'm think I've heard it fairly recently. I'm sure people would know what
I meant if I said "Joe said he just had a fling with that co-worker, but
his wife took the kids, moved in with her mother and filed for divorce
anyway."
And I've heard it used for casual sex among people who don't have a
spouse at home likely to disagree strongly with the claim that a casual
fling doesn't mean much.
--
Cheryl
We Geminis are in two minds.
--
James
A "rake" I read; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rake_%28character%29
>> But what is the male equivalent of "slut"? =A0"Slob" covers the "letting
>> yourself become slovenly" part of it, but not the sexual degradation.
>
>
>A "rake" I read; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rake_%28character%29
I assume we've all seen this by now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKL7nyJrPAM
....r
--
A pessimist sees the glass as half empty.
An optometrist asks whether you see the glass
more full like this?...or like this?
I hadn't, but I am curious as to why you would have assumed we would
all have seen it by now.
I agree with your definition, but far from being modern, I thought
"fling", as we're using the term, was popular back in the 1950s and
perhaps in the 1960s, but not now. For some reason, I can not find the
meaning we've been discussing in my copy of the OED, to verify this.
I've never had the chance to try Korean food. Was The Happy Four a
Korean restaurant?
If you are saying we must eliminate "goat" as a candidate for the male
equivalent of a slut because sluts have a drinking problem, I disagree
that sluts are necessarily dipsomaniacs. I've known...well, never
mind.
>>>> But what is the male equivalent of "slut"? =A0"Slob" covers the
>>>> "letting yourself become slovenly" part of it, but not the sexual
>>>> degradation.
>>>
>>> A "rake" I read; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rake_%28character%29
>>
>> I assume we've all seen this by now:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKL7nyJrPAM
<snip>
> I hadn't, but I am curious as to why you would have assumed we would
> all have seen it by now.
It has been mentioned in this group before. Besides, I think that there are
quite a few Jeopardy watchers here. I, for one, saw it on TV when it was
first broadcast.
--
Skitt (AmE)
A friend of mine used it just a few weeks ago to describe an affair
which another friend's daughter had had, and which ended up in
extrememly tragic circumstances. It did strike me as an unusual usage
at the time.
DC
--
We librans would like some balance in the discussion.
--
>
> When she mentioned my delight in the musical aspects, her parents
> invited me to join them for the P&B.
What's a P&B, Frank?
DC
--
Yes, I would have thought the word was deader than a doornail, an
expression that has bit the dust, which has, too.
>On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:40:25 GMT, "Django Cat"
The reason I put it forward was that it was used, in precisly the
context Mario is seeking, in an article in The Times by Libby Purves
about the Meredith Kercher murder. I found the article by Googling on
the search string "sex, drink and drugs". I was a bit surprised, too.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/libby_purves/article6946545.ece
or
http://tinyurl.com/ycmvtdm
> >On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:40:25 GMT, "Django Cat"
> ><notar...@address.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>Chuck Riggs wrote:
>
> >>> On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:03:56 -0330, Cheryl <cperk...@mun.ca> wrote:
>
> >>> > Chuck Riggs wrote:
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/libby_purves/arti...
> orhttp://tinyurl.com/ycmvtdm
Are you talking about "fling?"
Indeed the title of the article is:
----
Fantasy world fuelled by sex, drink and drugs
The bravado of the ‘sexually adventurous’, such as Amanda Knox, masks
the real damage caused by a life of endless flings
----
Now, my reservation about it was that I thought "fling" is mainly
about "sex," but it seems I was wrong, it's wider than that, it's
about "dissipation" in general:
---
fling
3b : an affair or a period marked by uninhibited gaiety, self-
indulgence, or dissipation <determined to have one last fling before
he sailed>
Webster's Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged.
----
--
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
We Aquarians want to pour cold water on the whole idea of astrology.
--
Mike.
We Taureans think it's a load of bull.
--
Laura
(emulate St. George for email)
And we Taureans think it's a load of bull.
--
Katy Jennison
--
Mike.
> > I want an slangy equivalent for:
>
> > He has lots of "distractions"
> > He has lots of "distracting stuff" going on around
> > He's involved in lots of "hanky-panky" (but this doesn't seem to
> > reflect that)
>
> > Marius Hancu
>
> He has a very active social life.
> He knows how to have a good time.
> "Wild", maybe, or the old 'wine, women and song' phrase.
> He's a real party animal.
He's a bit of a lad? (British and maybe in other countries, but not
American.)
> None of them are very slangy, though.
>
> There are terms for men who chase women, though, Hound dog? dog? what
> were some of the terms used for Tiger Woods?
Horndog?
> "Ladies' man' is rather genteel, and might merely mean a man who flirts
> politely with the ladies, although it often doesn't.
>
> You can call someone a drunk or a druggie or an addict, but I get the
> impression you want something more general.
As I recall, Marius used "excesses" in another thread. Has anyone
mentioned "fleshpots" yet?
--
Jerry Friedman
Its a reference back to Pat Durkin's post - Porgy and Bess.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE
Ah. Yes.
--
Didn't I just say that? Great (Taurean) minds and all that...
COD10's main definition is
1 a short period of enjoyment or wild behaviour: a final fling. � a
short sexual relationship.
I don't find it dated, but I'm older than Libby Purves.
--
Robin
(BrE)
Herts, England
We Saggitarians like to keep second strings to our bows.
That extra g-string should fit you to a t.
Virgos, of course, have no experience of this, and Pisces find it all a
bit fishy.
I'm just waiting for a good joke about Cancer.
--
James
Oh, I just remembered a nursery rhyme that uses "sport" for fun times:
The little dog laughed to see such sport, and the dish ran away with
the spoon!
(But I didn't associate the P&B with an earlier post.) Now, of
course, Sportin' Life lives again.
As long as she's healthy.
--
Jerry Friedman
I'm a Cancerian and this whole thread is making me crabby.
Is timesonline the Internet version of the London Times or The Times,
whichever it is called?
We Geminis are divided on the issue.
> Is timesonline the Internet version of the London Times or The Times,
> whichever it is called?
Yes, of both The Times and The Sunday Times.
--
David
>
>Is timesonline the Internet version of the London Times or The Times,
>whichever it is called?
Yes.
>On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:44:39 +0000, Chuck Riggs <chr...@eircom.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Is timesonline the Internet version of the London Times or The Times,
>>whichever it is called?
>
>Yes.
Thank you, David and Katy. If I weren't already saturated by news from
The New York Times and the Irish Times every day, I'd probably read
it.