Consonant finals in Chinese dialects (Re: How to verbally assess

[Mike Wright]

Gerald B Mathias wrote:
>
> Mike Wright (dar...@mbay.net) wrote:
> : Luke wrote:
> : > > How about the [kstst] in "next station"? Or the [kstspr] in "next
> : > > spring"? I find these much more difficult than [lm] in "film" or [sm]
> : > > in "prism".
> : >
> : > As a native ENglish speaker, I never pronounce these words as written-I always say
> : > "nek-spring"
> : > and "nek-station", more as one word though, "nekspring" and "nekstation."
> : > Luke
>
> : So do I. In fact, I don't release the "k", so "nek" sounds kind of Chinese.
>
> Really? Then the "spring" and "station" must be silent, and people think
> you're saying "neh"?
>
> Seems to me you *have* to release it, Mike.

Well, only after it has begged and pleaded, and perhaps its relatives have paid
a small ransom.

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Mike Wright
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[Gerald B Mathias]

Mike Wright (dar...@mbay.net) wrote:
: Luke wrote:
: > > How about the [kstst] in "next station"? Or the [kstspr] in "next
: > > spring"? I find these much more difficult than [lm] in "film" or [sm]
: > > in "prism".
: >
: > As a native ENglish speaker, I never pronounce these words as written-I always say
: > "nek-spring"
: > and "nek-station", more as one word though, "nekspring" and "nekstation."
: > Luke

: So do I. In fact, I don't release the "k", so "nek" sounds kind of Chinese.

Really? Then the "spring" and "station" must be silent, and people think
you're saying "neh"?

Seems to me you *have* to release it, Mike.

Bart

[Rex F. May]

> > : So do I. In fact, I don't release the "k", so "nek" sounds kind of Chinese.
> >
> > Really? Then the "spring" and "station" must be silent, and people think
> > you're saying "neh"?
> >
> > Seems to me you *have* to release it, Mike.
>

> Well, only after it has begged and pleaded, and perhaps its relatives have paid
> a small ransom.

I think what is being described here is the difference between
'nekstation' and 'neck station.' I'd have some kind of pause in the
second. So it's not 'unreleased' so much as 'unprolonged'.

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