D. Spencer Hines wrote: > Vide infra pro phrenetico.
Kindly stuff your showoff Latin phrases up your locative, Homunculus. Some of us know Latin, Ancient Greek, Sanskrit, and a bit of Indo-European, but unlike an insecure élitist such as yourself, we of the genuine élite try not to impress the masses with phrases picked out of a Latin primer.
> Well the World knows about our Crazy Californians. > A loon in every tree.
First, Homunculus, I am not a Californian. Second, loons are not tree-dwelling birds. Third, you're confusing California with Canada as the prime habitat of loons. Fourth, you forgot the obligatory comma after "Well."
Not bad for a know-it-all schmuck: two sentences, four fuck-ups.
> Here's just one of them.
> There are some very fine folks in California too. Unfortunately they > are often out-shouted by the loons.
This is sloppy thinking: you are implying that *all* Californians shout.
And here comes D. Spencer's stupid upside-down reposting:
> | D. Spencer Hines wrote: > | > | > A professional wordsmith who turns to obscenities > | > is a poor craftsman and a pitiful one indeed. > | That's a fuckin' crock of shit, you self-righteous scumsucker. :))
Look, Homunculus, you missed *two* bits of irony (you must be an American): my reply and James Follett's exquisite pearl replying to your stuffy "By all means hate Sloth and Ignorance."
Let me explain. James chose the parallel adjective "lazy" in response to your noun "Sloth" and "ignorant" to mirror your "Ignorance":
>>Okay -- trim your reposts, you ignorant, lazy motherfucker.
"Motherfucker" is, of course, an appropriate epithet for a *pigheaded motherfucker* like you who has been asked dozens of times to trim his fuckin' reposts and to put his goddamn replies *after* the quoted material, but won't.
Thus spake D. Spencer Hines, D._Spencer_Hines...@aya.yale.edu:
> One thing I dislike is the term "senior citizen"; it manages to > be patronizing [sic] and elitest [sic] at the same time. I'm an old age > pensioner; as crumbly as a leper in a wind tunnel, and let no one > forget it.
> For several years the phrases "hate crime" and "hate speech" have > been floating around, but only very recently I've noticed that > some people are using the word "hate" by itself with the specific > meaning of "the emotional content of bigotry".
> There was an entire article in (I believe) the New York Times Magazine > on hate, without a single suggestion that it was possible to hate > an individual, or an idea, or an occurrence.
> Is this going to be a genuine change of meaning? Twenty years from > now will sentences like "I hate Johnny Thompson, he's just mean" or > "I hate my job" or "I hate it that all must die", be greeted > with blank stares?
> There were plenty of substitutes for "gay"; though it's a bit of > a pity that it's no longer possible to talk of a "gay party" without > raising issues of sexual orientation, it has not really impoverished > the language much. But I really can't think of many substitutes > for "hate" in the sense of "passionate disaffection".
What you are ignoring is that the word _hate,_ in its most naked form, had negative connotations long before the present concern with hate crimes.
By "most naked," I mean the use of the word in an unmodified or non-narrowed form. Consider the following sentences.
1) I hate anchovies.
2) I hate making speeches in public.
3) I hate evil.
The focus in these sentences is either on the author as a "hater" in a narrow context or on the object of his hate.
Compare these sentences.
1) I am full of hate.
2) I am a hater.
3) I hate.
Is not your reaction to these sentences much different than your reaction to the first group of sentences? Mine certainly is. In these last sentences, hate itself is close to being the focus, and it is a negative view of hate.
When Samuel Johnson said "I like a good hater," as he was quoted in a previous post, I am sure he knew what he was doing. He was trying to make the point that some good can come from hate, but his sentence draws people's attention precisely because it plays off of the common feeling that it is _bad_ to be a hater.
It is really not that far from the unmodified _hate_ of the second group of sentences above to a modern sentence such as "We must get rid of hate in our schools." Everyone knows that the speaker is not saying that kids in the school cafeteria are not allowed to hate green beans.
That being the case, I conclude that we need not fear that we will need in the future to find a substitute for the word _hate._
-- Raymond S. Wise Email: mplsrayPleaseNoS...@yahoo.com Remove "PleaseNoSpam" to email me.
> One thing I dislike is the term "senior citizen"; it manages to > be patronizing [sic] and elitest [sic] at the same time. I'm an old age > pensioner; as crumbly as a leper in a wind tunnel, and let no one > forget it.
> Yes, and we should indulge your obscenities because of it? > --
Here's an idea. Let's take a poll (RF, do you thing you are finished yet with that other business?) and find out how many people who participate here would gladly indulge Mr Follet's rare, well-targeted obscenity as an alternative to Dispenser Hiney's vacuous narcissism? -- -- Michael West Melbourne, Australia
| Here's an idea. Let's take a poll (RF, do you thing [sic] you are | finished yet with that other business?)...
<baldersnip> -- --
Michael West Melbourne, Australia
<Groak> --
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"There're two kinds of people in this life, my friend --- those who have loaded guns and those who dig. You dig." --- Clint Eastwood as The Man With No Name "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" --- Sergio Leone [1966]
I found it particularly offensive that he would bring my Mother into it.
My experience had led me to think that an English gentleman of his age and status would not do such a thing.
Obviously, I was wrong to think so.
I've never seen an English gentleman do anything of this sort before and it certainly is not something that I'd ever do or that anyone I respect would ever do. --
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"There're two kinds of people in this life, my friend --- those who have loaded guns and those who dig. You dig." --- Clint Eastwood as The Man With No Name "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" --- Sergio Leone [1966]
James Follett <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
| In article <812ukq$1n...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> | N...@ToSpam.edu "D. Spencer Hines" writes: | | >By all means hate Sloth and Ignorance. | | Okay -- trim your reposts, you ignorant, lazy motherfucker. | | -- | James Follett -- novelist http://www.davew.demon.co.uk |
He is IN California --- and has obviously picked up the virus.
He's also a thoroughly foul-mouthed blackguard.
"The International Maledicta Society" --- in his header --- Indeed. --
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"There're two kinds of people in this life, my friend --- those who have loaded guns and those who dig. You dig." --- Clint Eastwood as The Man With No Name "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" --- Sergio Leone [1966]
On Fri, 19 Nov 99 21:35:23 GMT, ja...@marage.demon.co.uk (James
Follett) wrote:
[...]
>One thing I dislike is the term "senior citizen"; it manages to >be patronizing and elitest at the same time. I'm an old age >pensioner; as crumbly as a leper in a wind tunnel, and let no one >forget it.
How do you like the term they use in Montreal? I found it enchanting. "Age d'Or" (Golden Age).
The appalling Jimbo wrote: >| Okay -- trim your reposts, you ignorant, lazy motherfucker.
And the equally appalling Spencer Hine replied:
>I found it particularly offensive that he would bring my Mother into it.
>My experience had led me to think that an English gentleman of his age >and status would not do such a thing.
You're quite right: the term "motherfucker" is more likely to used by an American rather than an Englishman. It gets bandied about as a generic insult without thought that for some, due to, perhaps, an unfortunate incident in their past, it might prod a wound that time hasn't healed. I apologize for my disregard of your feelings in this matter. In a feeble attempt to be seen as a caring, understanding English gentleman, all I can do is try to redeem my unseemly behaviour by politely asking what happened. Did you both get drunk?
A certain king of Thebes had a similar problem to yours -- he went bit further than your one night messing-with-mater stand and actually married his mother. Maybe you should've mugged-up on Greek rather than Latin.
In article <814gou$8l...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> N...@ToSpam.edu "D. Spencer Hines" writes:
>One thing I dislike is the term "senior citizen"; it manages to >be patronizing [sic] and elitest [sic] at the same time. I'm an old age >pensioner; as crumbly as a leper in a wind tunnel, and let no one >forget it.
The above repost has been altered. By all means repost the comments of another and show the proper attribution line markers, but don't tamper with the content. That you need to forge my commments doesn't say much for the strength of your arguments.
Please vomit up your sics in the proper manner -- as your comments.
In article <383d6007.3368...@news.mindspring.com> sme...@mindspring.com "Polar" writes:
>>One thing I dislike is the term "senior citizen"; it manages to >>be patronizing and elitest at the same time. I'm an old age >>pensioner; as crumbly as a leper in a wind tunnel, and let no one >>forget it.
>How do you like the term they use in Montreal? I found it enchanting. >"Age d'Or" (Golden Age).
Ohmegawd... That's dangerously close to a term used by a UK travel company, Hogg Robinson, when they mail-blitzed their regular customers who had reached 60.
Here's my (off-topic) reply to Jennifer Cartwright, their customer relations muppet:
>l:\wp\let\trav\hr.05
Dear Jenny,
Many thanks for your Golden Years holiday brochure for the over 60s. The cover depicts a frail, white-haired couple sipping lemon tea at a pavement cafe overlooking Lake Geneva. I'm sorry but the holidays you have on offer for crumblies don't appear to cover my needs. I haven't got white hair and, at 22 stone, I can hardly be called frail, and, quite frankly, Geneva's night life leaves much to be desired. Last time I was there the Swiss authorities had a rule that dancing girls in nightclubs had to wear cache sexes over their pussies and funny little sequin gizmos over their nipples. Perhaps you could advise if these ludicrous bye-laws are still in force?
What interests me is a water-skiing vacation with a bevy of topless bimbos on the Spanish Costas, or any holiday that requires treatment with a course of broad spectrum antibiotics on my return home to get rid of the souvenirs. Perhaps you could smuggle me onto a Club 18-30 holiday?
Also, is it true that there is no age of consent in Japan? As travel agents with "over fifty years' experience in meeting the needs of travellers" I'm sure you must know the answer. If it's true then put me down for 14 nights in Tokyo at the Keito Palace Hotel in Shinjuki. A friend tells me that their lobby clerks are discreet and understanding but you may know a better hotel that provide even younger girls.
Yours sincerely etc
The above letter earned me a po-faced reply from Hogg Robinson (now called "Going Places") informing me that my name had been removed from their mailing list.
Yes, I imagine he's rather funny to watch when he walks. Or perhaps he doesn't walk at all.
Perhaps he just munges along like a large gray slug, leaving a slick behind him, oozing from his diaper.
Just now, he needs his male nurse to wipe that dribble off his chin and out of his nostrils as well. --
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"There're two kinds of people in this life, my friend --- those who have loaded guns and those who dig. You dig." --- Clint Eastwood as The Man With No Name "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly" --- Sergio Leone [1966]
James Follett <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:943101288snz@marage.demon.co.uk... | In article <383d6007.3368...@news.mindspring.com> | sme...@mindspring.com "Polar" writes: | | >>One thing I dislike is the term "senior citizen"; it manages to | >>be patronizing and elitest at the same time. I'm an old age | >>pensioner; as crumbly as a leper in a wind tunnel, and let no one | >>forget it. | > | >How do you like the term they use in Montreal? I found it enchanting. | >"Age d'Or" (Golden Age). | | Ohmegawd... That's dangerously close to a term used by a UK travel | company, Hogg Robinson, when they mail-blitzed their regular | customers who had reached 60. | | Here's my (off-topic) reply to Jennifer Cartwright, their customer | relations muppet: | | >l:\wp\let\trav\hr.05 | | Dear Jenny, | | Many thanks for your Golden Years holiday brochure for the over | 60s. The cover depicts a frail, white-haired couple sipping lemon | tea at a pavement cafe overlooking Lake Geneva. I'm sorry but the | holidays you have on offer for crumblies don't appear to cover | my needs. I haven't got white hair and, at 22 stone, I can hardly | be called frail, and, quite frankly, Geneva's night life leaves | much to be desired. Last time I was there the Swiss authorities had | a rule that dancing girls in nightclubs had to wear cache sexes over | their pussies and funny little sequin gizmos over their nipples. | Perhaps you could advise if these ludicrous bye-laws are still in | force? | | What interests me is a water-skiing vacation with a bevy of | topless bimbos on the Spanish Costas, or any holiday that requires | treatment with a course of broad spectrum antibiotics on my return | home to get rid of the souvenirs. Perhaps you could smuggle me onto | a Club 18-30 holiday? | | Also, is it true that there is no age of consent in Japan? As | travel agents with "over fifty years' experience in meeting the | needs of travellers" I'm sure you must know the answer. If it's | true then put me down for 14 nights in Tokyo at the Keito Palace | Hotel in Shinjuki. A friend tells me that their lobby clerks are | discreet and understanding but you may know a better hotel that | provide even younger girls. | | Yours sincerely etc | | The above letter earned me a po-faced reply from Hogg Robinson | (now called "Going Places") informing me that my name had been | removed from their mailing list. | | -- | James Follett -- novelist http://www.davew.demon.co.uk |
On Sat, 20 Nov 99 13:26:51 GMT, ja...@marage.demon.co.uk (James
Follett) wrote:
[ ]
>You're quite right: the term "motherfucker" is more likely to used >by an American rather than an Englishman. >James Follett -- novelist http://www.davew.demon.co.uk
The concept is universal, and -- like other forms of reference to incestuous behaviour -- spelling it out is universally condemned. Americans seem, however, to have lost the edge of the insult (which must exist in all languages -- I remember one of Haileybury's best telling me that a Ghurka had once unbelted and tied him to the railway track after he had used the epithet. He, the Haileyburr-to-be, ten year-old scion of a Political Agent, pronounced it 'bahnchut').
>>>One thing I dislike is the term "senior citizen"; it manages to >>>be patronizing and elitest at the same time. I'm an old age >>>pensioner; as crumbly as a leper in a wind tunnel, and let no one >>>forget it.
>>How do you like the term they use in Montreal? I found it enchanting. >>"Age d'Or" (Golden Age).
>Ohmegawd... That's dangerously close to a term used by a UK travel >company, Hogg Robinson, when they mail-blitzed their regular >customers who had reached 60.
>Here's my (off-topic) reply to Jennifer Cartwright, their customer >relations muppet:
>>l:\wp\let\trav\hr.05
>Dear Jenny,
>Many thanks for your Golden Years holiday brochure for the over >60s. The cover depicts a frail, white-haired couple sipping lemon >tea at a pavement cafe overlooking Lake Geneva. I'm sorry but the >holidays you have on offer for crumblies don't appear to cover >my needs. I haven't got white hair and, at 22 stone, I can hardly >be called frail, and, quite frankly, Geneva's night life leaves >much to be desired. Last time I was there the Swiss authorities had >a rule that dancing girls in nightclubs had to wear cache sexes over >their pussies and funny little sequin gizmos over their nipples. >Perhaps you could advise if these ludicrous bye-laws are still in >force?
>What interests me is a water-skiing vacation with a bevy of >topless bimbos on the Spanish Costas, or any holiday that requires >treatment with a course of broad spectrum antibiotics on my return >home to get rid of the souvenirs. Perhaps you could smuggle me onto >a Club 18-30 holiday?
>Also, is it true that there is no age of consent in Japan? As >travel agents with "over fifty years' experience in meeting the >needs of travellers" I'm sure you must know the answer. If it's >true then put me down for 14 nights in Tokyo at the Keito Palace >Hotel in Shinjuki. A friend tells me that their lobby clerks are >discreet and understanding but you may know a better hotel that >provide even younger girls.
>Yours sincerely etc
>The above letter earned me a po-faced reply from Hogg Robinson >(now called "Going Places") informing me that my name had been >removed from their mailing list.
I think I love you.
-- Perchprism (southern New Jersey, near Philadelphia)
>> >You're quite right: the term "motherfucker" is more likely to used >> >by an American rather than an Englishman. >> >James Follett -- novelist http://www.davew.demon.co.uk
>> The concept is universal, and -- like other forms of reference to >> incestuous behaviour -- spelling it out is universally condemned. >> Americans seem, however, to have lost the edge of the insult (which >> must exist in all languages -- I remember one of Haileybury's best >> telling me that a Ghurka had once unbelted and tied him to the >> railway track after he had used the epithet. He, the >> Haileyburr-to-be, ten year-old scion of a Political Agent, pronounced >> it 'bahnchut').
>Now that's what I would call a parenthesis on steroids!
>-- >-- >Michael West >Melbourne, Australia
Jimbo needs the full-strength variety, but at 22 stone one wonders at his obsession about "upside down".
> In article <814gou$8l...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> > N...@ToSpam.edu "D. Spencer Hines" writes:
> >One thing I dislike is the term "senior citizen"; it manages to > >be patronizing [sic] and elitest [sic] at the same time. I'm an old age > >pensioner; as crumbly as a leper in a wind tunnel, and let no one > >forget it.
> The above repost has been altered. By all means repost the comments > of another and show the proper attribution line markers, but don't > tamper with the content. That you need to forge my commments doesn't > say much for the strength of your arguments.
> Please vomit up your sics in the proper manner -- as your comments.
As well command the blind to see, Jim. -- -- Michael West Melbourne, Australia
> On Sat, 20 Nov 99 13:26:51 GMT, ja...@marage.demon.co.uk (James > Follett) wrote:
> [ ]
> >You're quite right: the term "motherfucker" is more likely to used > >by an American rather than an Englishman. > >James Follett -- novelist http://www.davew.demon.co.uk
> The concept is universal, and -- like other forms of reference to > incestuous behaviour -- spelling it out is universally condemned. > Americans seem, however, to have lost the edge of the insult (which > must exist in all languages -- I remember one of Haileybury's best > telling me that a Ghurka had once unbelted and tied him to the > railway track after he had used the epithet. He, the > Haileyburr-to-be, ten year-old scion of a Political Agent, pronounced > it 'bahnchut').
Now that's what I would call a parenthesis on steroids!
In article <816clj$je...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> N...@ToSpam.edu "D. Spencer Hines" writes:
>Perhaps he just munges along like a large gray slug, leaving a slick >behind him, oozing from his diaper.
>Just now, he needs his male nurse to wipe that dribble off his chin and >out of his nostrils as well.
Wow! Look at that! My very own flame. And I get top billing at the head of a 174-line post. Unfortunately, as flames go, it's a pretty miserable affair. Sorry, Spence, but you're not in Reinhold's league. Even I could do better. E.g. Opening a paragraph with "perhaps" suggests uncertainty and indecisiveness. With flames there shouldn't be any shilly-shallying. Get in there and go straight for the jugular.
He munges along like a bloated, repulsive slug, leaving a glutinous trail of rancid excrement that spawns clouds of evil-smelling toxic green vapour that could wreck the market value of a skunk's holiday home...
Get the idea? Now go to it and don't come back until you've composed a Latin-free flame that I can be sufficiently proud of to show my friends.
a1a51...@sprint.ca wrote: > On Sat, 20 Nov 99 13:26:51 GMT, ja...@marage.demon.co.uk (James > Follett) wrote: >> You're quite right: the term "motherfucker" is more likely to used >> by an American rather than an Englishman. > The concept is universal, and -- like other forms of reference to > incestuous behaviour -- spelling it out is universally condemned. > Americans seem, however, to have lost the edge of the insult (which > must exist in all languages -- I remember one of Haileybury's best > telling me that a Ghurka had once unbelted and tied him to the > railway track after he had used the epithet. He, the > Haileyburr-to-be, ten year-old scion of a Political Agent, pronounced > it 'bahnchut').
Anandashankar Mazumdar wrote: > In article <3836ca99.82867...@news.sprint.ca>, > a1a51...@sprint.ca wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Nov 99 13:26:51 GMT, ja...@marage.demon.co.uk > > (James Follett) wrote:
> >> You're quite right: the term "motherfucker" is more likely to used > >> by an American rather than an Englishman. > > The concept is universal, and -- like other forms of reference to > > incestuous behaviour -- spelling it out is universally condemned. > > Americans seem, however, to have lost the edge of the insult (which > > must exist in all languages
Sorry, "motherfucker" and related mother-insults do not exist in all languages. For example, there is no _Mutterficker_ or similar in German (nor in most or all Germanic languages, except English). Incest-related insults occur predominantly in Asian and African languages. The infamous Russian mother-insult is an import from their Asian neighbors, and the English/American one from West-African slaves.
> > -- I remember one of Haileybury's best > > telling me that a Ghurka had once unbelted and tied him to the > > railway track after he had used the epithet. He, the > > Haileyburr-to-be, ten year-old scion of a Political Agent, pronounced > > it 'bahnchut'). > Which literally means "sisterfuck."
According to my sources (transliterated amateurishly):
>> In article <3836ca99.82867...@news.sprint.ca>, >> a1a51...@sprint.ca wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Nov 99 13:26:51 GMT, ja...@marage.demon.co.uk >>> (James Follett) wrote:
>>>> You're quite right: the term "motherfucker" is more likely to used >>>> by an American rather than an Englishman.
>>> The concept is universal, and -- like other forms of reference to >>> incestuous behaviour -- spelling it out is universally condemned. >>> Americans seem, however, to have lost the edge of the insult (which >>> must exist in all languages
> Sorry, "motherfucker" and related mother-insults do not exist in all > languages. For example, there is no _Mutterficker_ or similar in German > (nor in most or all Germanic languages, except English). Incest-related > insults occur predominantly in Asian and African languages. The > infamous Russian mother-insult is an import from their Asian neighbors, > and the English/American one from West-African slaves.
>>> -- I remember one of Haileybury's best >>> telling me that a Ghurka had once unbelted and tied him to the >>> railway track after he had used the epithet. He, the >>> Haileyburr-to-be, ten year-old scion of a Political Agent, pronounced >>> it 'bahnchut').
>> Which literally means "sisterfuck."
> According to my sources (transliterated amateurishly):
How about paternal sexual intercourse name-calling? I haven't heard anyone being called a "fatherfucker" in English, and this does offer the caller the chance to use two potentially offensive implications in one go (i.e. they are committing incest, and they are homosexual -- which isn't as much of an insult nowadays, but to some people I suppose it still is).
Although, maybe this does exist in other languages... I await enlightenment.
The pigheaded motherfucker D. Spencer Hines wrote about Jimbo:
> Vide infra pro phrenetico.
Vide *this*, you stultus cacademicus!
[...]
> Just now, he needs his male nurse to wipe that dribble > off his chin and out of his nostrils as well.
What a fool you are, D. Spencer! James Follett having a *male* nurse, as a latent homosexual like you would? The James we know and love would have two half-naked, big-titted nymphets in microskirts taking care of all his bodily needs.
[Snipped irrelevant remainder, as any non-pigheaded reader would.]
-- Reinhold (Rey) Aman, Editor MALEDICTA: The International Journal of Verbal Aggression Santa Rosa, CA 95402, USA http://www.sonic.net/maledicta/
> The pigheaded motherfucker D. Spencer Hines wrote about Jimbo:
> > Vide infra pro phrenetico.
> Vide *this*, you stultus cacademicus!
> [...]
> > Just now, he needs his male nurse to wipe that dribble > > off his chin and out of his nostrils as well.
> What a fool you are, D. Spencer! James Follett having a *male* nurse, > as a latent homosexual like you would? The James we know and love would > have two half-naked, big-titted nymphets in microskirts taking care of > all his bodily needs.
> [Snipped irrelevant remainder, as any non-pigheaded reader would.]
> -- > Reinhold (Rey) Aman, Editor > MALEDICTA: The International Journal of Verbal Aggression > Santa Rosa, CA 95402, USA > http://www.sonic.net/maledicta/
Just to keep this motherfucker thread going on a Sunday afternoon, I append below the words (copyright Tom Lehrer) to the song Oedipus Rex (from memory):
There once was a man called Oedipus Rex, You might well think he's got an odd complex, His name appears in Freud's index, Cause he LOVED his mother.
His rivals used say quite a bit, That as a monarch he was most unfit, But all in all they had to admit, That he LOVED his mother.
Yes he loved his mother like no other -- His daughter was his sister and his son was his brother! One thing on which you can depend is -- He sure knew who a man's best friend is!
When he found out what he had done, He tore his eyes out one by one, A tragic end to a loyal son, Who LOVED his mother.
So if you have a mother ask her round for a chat, Buy her candy or some flowers or a brand-new hat, But maybe you had better let it go at that!
Or you'll end up like Oedipus (I'd rather marry a duck-billed platypus) than end up like old Oedipus Rex!!!
(It's better sung, but I can't transcribe the music!) -- Wrmst rgds,
>> On Sat, 20 Nov 99 13:26:51 GMT, ja...@marage.demon.co.uk (James >> Follett) wrote:
>>> You're quite right: the term "motherfucker" is more likely to used >>> by an American rather than an Englishman.
>> The concept is universal, and -- like other forms of reference to >> incestuous behaviour -- spelling it out is universally condemned. >> Americans seem, however, to have lost the edge of the insult (which >> must exist in all languages -- I remember one of Haileybury's best >> telling me that a Ghurka had once unbelted and tied him to the >> railway track after he had used the epithet. He, the >> Haileyburr-to-be, ten year-old scion of a Political Agent, pronounced >> it 'bahnchut').
