James: such another
Marius Hancu
"Such another" does it mean "such an extraordinary person (perhaps in
the bad here)"
or someone detestable or ordinary?
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[Sarah doesn't like at all Mme Vionnet, Chad's friend in Paris and
she's blaming Stether for tolerating her. She contrasts the quality of
her family's women, thus her and her mother, with that of Mme
Vionnet. ]
She had already said more than she had quite expected; but, though she
had also pulled up, the colour in her face showed him he should from
one moment to the other have it all. He now indeed felt the high
importance of his having it. "What is your conduct," she broke out as
if to explain—"what is your conduct but an outrage to women like US? I
mean your acting as if there can be a doubt—as between us and such
another—of his duty?"
He thought a moment. It was rather much to deal with at once; not only
the question itself, but the sore abysses it revealed. "Of course
they're totally different kinds of duty."
"And do you pretend that he has any at all—to such another?"
Henry James, The Ambassadors, p. 305
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/432/432-h/432-h.htm
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
the Omrud
> Hello:
>
> "Such another" does it mean "such an extraordinary person (perhaps in
> the bad here)"
> or someone detestable or ordinary?
>
> ---
> [Sarah doesn't like at all Mme Vionnet, Chad's friend in Paris and
> she's blaming Stether for tolerating her. She contrasts the quality of
> her family's women, thus her and her mother, with that of Mme
> Vionnet. ]
>
> She had already said more than she had quite expected; but, though she
> had also pulled up, the colour in her face showed him he should from
> one moment to the other have it all. He now indeed felt the high
> importance of his having it. "What is your conduct," she broke out as
> mean your acting as if there can be a doubt�as between us and such
> another�of his duty?"
>
> He thought a moment. It was rather much to deal with at once; not only
> the question itself, but the sore abysses it revealed. "Of course
> they're totally different kinds of duty."
>
It means "a person like *that*", where "such" has already been
explained. It could mean any characteristic.
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David
Cheryl
> Hello:
>
> "Such another" does it mean "such an extraordinary person (perhaps in
> the bad here)"
> or someone detestable or ordinary?
>
> ---
> [Sarah doesn't like at all Mme Vionnet, Chad's friend in Paris and
> she's blaming Stether for tolerating her. She contrasts the quality of
> her family's women, thus her and her mother, with that of Mme
> Vionnet. ]
>
> She had already said more than she had quite expected; but, though she
> had also pulled up, the colour in her face showed him he should from
> one moment to the other have it all. He now indeed felt the high
> importance of his having it. "What is your conduct," she broke out as
> mean your acting as if there can be a doubt�as between us and such
> another�of his duty?"
>
> He thought a moment. It was rather much to deal with at once; not only
> the question itself, but the sore abysses it revealed. "Of course
> they're totally different kinds of duty."
>
>
> Henry James, The Ambassadors, p. 305
> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/432/432-h/432-h.htm
> -----
> --
> Thanks.
> Marius Hancu
I'd say someone detestable or despicable. I also wouldn't use 'another'
there - I'd say 'And do you pretend that he has any at all to someone
like that?', or 'to such a person?'
But of course, I'm writing much later than James, and I'm not a famous
novelist!
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Cheryl
Marius Hancu
> > "Such another" does it mean "such an extraordinary person (perhaps in
> > the bad here)"
> > or someone detestable or ordinary?
>
> > ---
> > [Sarah doesn't like at all Mme Vionnet, Chad's friend in Paris and
> > she's blaming Stether for tolerating her. She contrasts the quality of
> > her family's women, thus her and her mother, with that of Mme
> > Vionnet. ]
>
> > She had already said more than she had quite expected; but, though she
> > had also pulled up, the colour in her face showed him he should from
> > one moment to the other have it all. He now indeed felt the high
> > importance of his having it. "What is your conduct," she broke out as
> > if to explain—"what is your conduct but an outrage to women like US? I
> > mean your acting as if there can be a doubt—as between us and such
> > another—of his duty?"
>
> > He thought a moment. It was rather much to deal with at once; not only
> > the question itself, but the sore abysses it revealed. "Of course
> > they're totally different kinds of duty."
>
> > "And do you pretend that he has any at all—to such another?"
>
>
> I'd say someone detestable or despicable. I also wouldn't use 'another'
> there - I'd say 'And do you pretend that he has any at all to someone
> like that?', or 'to such a person?'
I was in the thereabouts.
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
CDB
> Marius Hancu wrote:
>>
>> "Such another" does it mean "such an extraordinary person (perhaps
>> in the bad here)"
>> or someone detestable or ordinary? ---
>> [Sarah doesn't like at all Mme Vionnet, Chad's friend in Paris and
>> she's blaming Stether for tolerating her. She contrasts the
>> quality of her family's women, thus her and her mother, with that
>> of Mme Vionnet. ]
>>
>> She had already said more than she had quite expected; but, though
>> she had also pulled up, the colour in her face showed him he
>> should from one moment to the other have it all. He now indeed
>> felt the high importance of his having it. "What is your conduct,"
>> outrage to women like US? I mean your acting as if there can be a
>>
>> He thought a moment. It was rather much to deal with at once; not
>> only the question itself, but the sore abysses it revealed. "Of
>> course they're totally different kinds of duty."
>>
>>
>> Henry James, The Ambassadors, p. 305
>> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/432/432-h/432-h.htm
>> -----
>
> 'another' there - I'd say 'And do you pretend that he has any at
> all to someone like that?', or 'to such a person?'
>
a group of women to whom some duty has been claimed to be owed, while
at the same time emphasising her differences from the worthy members
of the group. Both "another woman of that kind" and "a woman of such
a different kind".