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Vinny Burgoo

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May 24, 2013, 6:46:08 PM5/24/13
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Calling someone a 'clown' in Portuguese (palhaço) can get you three
years in prison. Any languages out there where clown-calling gets you
more than that?

--
VB

R H Draney

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May 24, 2013, 7:36:14 PM5/24/13
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Vinny Burgoo filted:
>
>Calling someone a 'clown' in Portuguese (palha�o) can get you three
>years in prison. Any languages out there where clown-calling gets you
>more than that?

Can't answer; lawyers will eat me....r


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Me? Sarcastic?
Yeah, right.

Swifty

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May 25, 2013, 4:52:48 AM5/25/13
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On 24/05/2013 23:46, Vinny Burgoo wrote:
> Any languages out there where clown-calling gets you more than that?

I suspect that might depend stronly on whom you called a clown. A judge
would probably be a poor choice.

As a programmer, I feel compelled to wonder what would happen if you
called an actual clown, a clown...

--
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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May 25, 2013, 6:45:27 AM5/25/13
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 23:46:08 +0100, Vinny Burgoo <hlu...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>Calling someone a 'clown' in Portuguese (palha�o) can get you three
>years in prison. Any languages out there where clown-calling gets you
>more than that?

Avoid suggesting a meal of fried chicken in the wrong context.


--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)

Walter P. Zähl

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May 25, 2013, 7:40:42 AM5/25/13
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Swifty <steve....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 24/05/2013 23:46, Vinny Burgoo wrote:
>> Any languages out there where clown-calling gets you more than that?
>
> I suspect that might depend stronly on whom you called a clown. A judge
> would probably be a poor choice.
>
> As a programmer, I feel compelled to wonder what would happen if you
> called an actual clown, a clown...


When a German politician called Silvio Berlusconi and Beppe Grillo clowns
after the recent election in Italy, a German circus clown complained. He
felt insulted by the comparison. So beware.

/Walter

Pablo

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May 25, 2013, 8:33:34 AM5/25/13
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Vinny Burgoo wrote:

> Calling someone a 'clown' in Portuguese (palhaço) can get you three
> years in prison.

Even if this takes place in Switzerland?

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Pablo

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Paul Wolff

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May 25, 2013, 1:45:29 PM5/25/13
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In message <cg51q8lk8vjl9tblg...@4ax.com>, "Peter
Duncanson [BrE]" <ma...@peterduncanson.net> writes
>On Fri, 24 May 2013 23:46:08 +0100, Vinny Burgoo <hlu...@yahoo.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Calling someone a 'clown' in Portuguese (palha�o) can get you three
>>years in prison. Any languages out there where clown-calling gets you
>>more than that?
>
>Avoid suggesting a meal of fried chicken in the wrong context.
>
The Portuguese might respond to piri-piri chicken.

I didn't understand this fried chicken thing. Is it worse than inviting
an Indian to a curry lunch? And if so, more importantly, why? On the
whole, foreigners should be cut some slack when they stumble over
another nation's non-obvious conventions.
--
Paul

R H Draney

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May 25, 2013, 3:21:25 PM5/25/13
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Paul Wolff filted:
>
>I didn't understand this fried chicken thing. Is it worse than inviting
>an Indian to a curry lunch? And if so, more importantly, why? On the
>whole, foreigners should be cut some slack when they stumble over
>another nation's non-obvious conventions.

"Shut up, you water buffalo!"
-- Eden Jacobowitz
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Tony Cooper

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May 25, 2013, 4:08:48 PM5/25/13
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On 25 May 2013 19:41:10 GMT, r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
wrote:

>Supersedes: <chicken-201...@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
>[foot->food]
>
>Paul Wolff <boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> writes:
>>I didn't understand this fried chicken thing. Is it worse than inviting
>>an Indian to a curry lunch? And if so, more importantly, why?
>
> The only type of livestock slaves in the USA were allowed to
> raise for themselves was chicken. So they often ate fried
> chicken, which (therefore?) was considered to be very low on
> the hierarchy of food. Recently, the press reported that
> someone made a remark in this direction (that he will serve
> someone fried chicken) that was taken to be an offense.

The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger Woods.
Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined together
at the U.S. Open.

Garcia and Woods have had words in the past, so what might have been
taken breaded lightly became an issue. Garcia's "joke" was
inappropriate, and Woods' reaction was overdone.

Related, but not directly so, is that the winner of the Masters
chooses the menu for the dinner, and Fuzzy Zoeller made a comment a
few years back about what Woods might choose.

In NASCAR, drivers who don't get along spin their rivals off the track
at speeds in excess of 100 mph or get in fist fights. In the NFL,
players who don't get along attempt to gouge out eyes at the bottom of
a pile-up. In Major League Baseball, pitchers deliberately throw fast
balls at the head of an opposing player who has diss'd the pitcher's
team, and then the rest of the bench come out and brawl. In the NHL,
players slam other players they're not even mad at up against the wall
as hard as they can.

In golf, the players have hissy fits over jokes-gone-bad. Sports
writers, who are bored senseless by watching someone take four hours
to hit a ball 60- 70-some times with the precision and excitement of a
metronome make anything a story. A fart on some other player's
backswing is the equivalent to them as a drone strike on an orphanage
would be to a real reporter.







--
Tony Cooper - Orlando FL

Katy Jennison

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May 25, 2013, 4:52:15 PM5/25/13
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On 25/05/2013 20:41, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Supersedes:<chicken-201...@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
> [foot->food]
>
> Paul Wolff<boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> writes:
>> I didn't understand this fried chicken thing. Is it worse than inviting
>> an Indian to a curry lunch? And if so, more importantly, why?
>
> The only type of livestock slaves in the USA were allowed to
> raise for themselves was chicken. So they often ate fried
> chicken, which (therefore?) was considered to be very low on
> the hierarchy of food. Recently, the press reported that
> someone made a remark in this direction (that he will serve
> someone fried chicken) that was taken to be an offense.
>

Non-sports-following Brits of a certain age (such as yours truly) were
baffled. In our childhood chicken was the height of luxury.

--
Katy Jennison

Paul Wolff

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May 25, 2013, 4:52:46 PM5/25/13
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In message <3f52q81q095ri91th...@4ax.com>, Tony Cooper
<tonyco...@gmail.com> writes
That pretty much confirms what I thought. I only wish my thoughts
revealed themselves to me with such graphic imagery.

I rather think that if the media hadn't decided to work it up, we could
all have been spared any excitement on the subject, and the golfers
could have gone back to addressing their balls without a second thought.
--
Paul

Joe Fineman

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May 25, 2013, 5:19:31 PM5/25/13
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Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> writes:

> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
> Woods. Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
> together at the U.S. Open.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. With catfish for an appetizer, and
watermelon for dessert?
--
--- Joe Fineman jo...@verizon.net

||: I do everything my Rice Krispies tell me to do. :||

Skitt

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May 25, 2013, 6:14:15 PM5/25/13
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Katy Jennison wrote:
> Stefan Ram wrote:
>> Paul Wolff<boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> writes:

>>> I didn't understand this fried chicken thing. Is it worse than inviting
>>> an Indian to a curry lunch? And if so, more importantly, why?
>>
>> The only type of livestock slaves in the USA were allowed to
>> raise for themselves was chicken. So they often ate fried
>> chicken, which (therefore?) was considered to be very low on
>> the hierarchy of food. Recently, the press reported that
>> someone made a remark in this direction (that he will serve
>> someone fried chicken) that was taken to be an offense.
>
> Non-sports-following Brits of a certain age (such as yours truly) were
> baffled. In our childhood chicken was the height of luxury.
>
In my childhood, I didn't much care for chicken. Now that I think about
it, I had good reason for that -- it was always of the boiled variety.
Yecch.

--
Skitt (SF Bay Area)
http://home.comcast.net/~skitt99/main.html

Skitt

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May 25, 2013, 6:16:28 PM5/25/13
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Joe Fineman wrote:
> Tony Cooper writes:

>> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
>> Woods. Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
>> together at the U.S. Open.
>
> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. With catfish for an appetizer, and
> watermelon for dessert?
>
Where do the ribs (pronounced something like "reebs") come in?

Robert Bannister

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May 25, 2013, 8:24:24 PM5/25/13
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On 26/05/13 3:41 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Supersedes: <chicken-201...@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
> [foot->food]
>
> Paul Wolff <boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> writes:
>> I didn't understand this fried chicken thing. Is it worse than inviting
>> an Indian to a curry lunch? And if so, more importantly, why?
>
> The only type of livestock slaves in the USA were allowed to
> raise for themselves was chicken. So they often ate fried
> chicken, which (therefore?) was considered to be very low on
> the hierarchy of food. Recently, the press reported that
> someone made a remark in this direction (that he will serve
> someone fried chicken) that was taken to be an offense.
>

I'm sure the "The Colonel" wouldn't have been offended.
--
Robert Bannister

Robert Bannister

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May 25, 2013, 8:26:38 PM5/25/13
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On 26/05/13 3:21 AM, R H Draney wrote:
> Paul Wolff filted:
>>
>> I didn't understand this fried chicken thing. Is it worse than inviting
>> an Indian to a curry lunch? And if so, more importantly, why? On the
>> whole, foreigners should be cut some slack when they stumble over
>> another nation's non-obvious conventions.
>
> "Shut up, you water buffalo!"
> -- Eden Jacobowitz

Steady, the Buffs.
--
Robert Bannister

Robin Bignall

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May 25, 2013, 9:10:58 PM5/25/13
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Truly foul fowl.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England (BrE)

CDB

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May 25, 2013, 10:41:17 PM5/25/13
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On 25/05/2013 5:19 PM, Joe Fineman wrote:

> I do everything my Rice Krispies tell me to do.

Old New Yorker cartoon: woman calling up the stairs, "Hurry, darling,
your cereal is barely audible."

R H Draney

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May 25, 2013, 11:10:17 PM5/25/13
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Skitt filted:
>
>Joe Fineman wrote:
>> Tony Cooper writes:
>
>>> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
>>> Woods. Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
>>> together at the U.S. Open.
>>
>> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. With catfish for an appetizer, and
>> watermelon for dessert?
>>
>Where do the ribs (pronounced something like "reebs") come in?

Didn't I post this link already this month?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNQRqAoT-2c

Jerry Friedman

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May 25, 2013, 11:42:46 PM5/25/13
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On May 25, 4:16 pm, Skitt <skit...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Joe Fineman wrote:
> > Tony Cooper writes:
> >> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
> >> Woods.  Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
> >> together at the U.S. Open.
>
> > Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.  With catfish for an appetizer, and
> > watermelon for dessert?
>
> Where do the ribs (pronounced something like "reebs") come in?

/ri@bz/ (or maybe /rI@bz/?)

--
Jerry Friedman

Evan Kirshenbaum

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May 26, 2013, 12:26:52 PM5/26/13
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Joe Fineman <jo...@verizon.net> writes:

> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
>> Woods. Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
>> together at the U.S. Open.
>
> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. With catfish for an appetizer, and
> watermelon for dessert?

Watermelon, hom'ney grits, and short'ning bread,
Alligator ribs, some pig tales,
Some black-eyed peas,
Some chit'lins,
Some collard greens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=udL0BuZZeog#t=40s

Fried chicken and watermelon are probably the two foods most joked
about as being foods American blacks worried about feeding stereotypes
are embarassed to admit they like.

When he goes to the store to buy a watermelon, he is so 'shamed he
tells the man, "Wrap it up. Put handles on it." You meet him on
the street and say "Hey, baby what you got there?" He says, "Oh, I
got my bowling ball." Have you ever seen oblong bowling balls?

Godfrey Cambridge (1964)

--
Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
Still with HP Labs |You cannot solve problems with the
SF Bay Area (1982-) |same type of thinking that created
Chicago (1964-1982) |them.
| Albert Einstein
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Evan Kirshenbaum

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May 26, 2013, 2:25:50 PM5/26/13
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Evan Kirshenbaum <evan.kir...@gmail.com> writes:

> Joe Fineman <jo...@verizon.net> writes:
>
>> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
>>> Woods. Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
>>> together at the U.S. Open.
>>
>> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. With catfish for an appetizer, and
>> watermelon for dessert?
>
> Watermelon, hom'ney grits, and short'ning bread,
> Alligator ribs, some pig tales,
> Some black-eyed peas,
> Some chit'lins,
> Some collard greens
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=udL0BuZZeog#t=40s
>
> Fried chicken and watermelon are probably the two foods most joked
> about as being foods American blacks worried about feeding
> stereotypes are embarassed to admit they like.

Well, that got edited beyond recognition. Let's try something like
"are worried about feeding stereotypes if they admit that they like
them".

> When he goes to the store to buy a watermelon, he is so 'shamed
> he tells the man, "Wrap it up. Put handles on it." You meet him
> on the street and say "Hey, baby what you got there?" He says,
> "Oh, I got my bowling ball." Have you ever seen oblong bowling
> balls?
>
> Godfrey Cambridge (1964)

--
Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
Still with HP Labs |Giving money and power to government
SF Bay Area (1982-) |is like giving whiskey and car keys
Chicago (1964-1982) |to teenage boys.
| P.J. O'Rourke
evan.kir...@gmail.com

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Evan Kirshenbaum

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May 26, 2013, 2:53:56 PM5/26/13
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Evan Kirshenbaum <evan.kir...@gmail.com> writes:

> Evan Kirshenbaum <evan.kir...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Joe Fineman <jo...@verizon.net> writes:
>>
>>> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
>>>> Woods. Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
>>>> together at the U.S. Open.
>>>
>>> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. With catfish for an appetizer, and
>>> watermelon for dessert?
>>
>> Watermelon, hom'ney grits, and short'ning bread,
>> Alligator ribs, some pig tales,
>> Some black-eyed peas,
>> Some chit'lins,
>> Some collard greens
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=udL0BuZZeog#t=40s
>>
>> Fried chicken and watermelon are probably the two foods most joked
>> about as being foods American blacks worried about feeding
>> stereotypes are embarassed to admit they like.
>
> Well, that got edited beyond recognition. Let's try something like
> "are worried about feeding stereotypes if they admit that they like
> them".

On second thought, it was just fine. It really looked wrong when I
read it, though.

--
Evan Kirshenbaum +------------------------------------
Still with HP Labs |This case--and I must be careful
SF Bay Area (1982-) |not to fall into Spooner's trap
Chicago (1964-1982) |here--concerns a group of warring
|bankers.
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Katy Jennison

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May 26, 2013, 4:26:13 PM5/26/13
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On 26/05/2013 19:53, Evan Kirshenbaum wrote:
> Evan Kirshenbaum<evan.kir...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Evan Kirshenbaum<evan.kir...@gmail.com> writes:

>>>
>>> Fried chicken and watermelon are probably the two foods most joked
>>> about as being foods American blacks worried about feeding
>>> stereotypes are embarassed to admit they like.
>>
>> Well, that got edited beyond recognition. Let's try something like
>> "are worried about feeding stereotypes if they admit that they like
>> them".
>
> On second thought, it was just fine. It really looked wrong when I
> read it, though.
>

I initially parsed "feeding" as an adjective ("stereotypes about
feeding"). On second reading I took it to be a verb ("to feed a
stereotype"). On third reading I decided it really didn't matter.
Embarrassed has two Rs, though.

--
Katy Jennison

Whiskers

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May 26, 2013, 4:49:17 PM5/26/13
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Golf was invented by Scottish shepherds who wanted a passtime less
stressful than watching sheep.

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-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

Whiskers

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May 26, 2013, 5:00:36 PM5/26/13
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Melons even more so. Fried chicken from a fast-food joint nominally
associated with one of the southern states of the US, seems to be a popular
'treat' all over the UK. Probably makes a change from our national dish
"curry".

Whiskers

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May 26, 2013, 4:54:40 PM5/26/13
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On 2013-05-26, Evan Kirshenbaum <evan.kir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Evan Kirshenbaum <evan.kir...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Evan Kirshenbaum <evan.kir...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Joe Fineman <jo...@verizon.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
>>>>> Woods. Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
>>>>> together at the U.S. Open.
>>>>
>>>> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. With catfish for an appetizer, and
>>>> watermelon for dessert?
>>>
>>> Watermelon, hom'ney grits, and short'ning bread,
>>> Alligator ribs, some pig tales,
>>> Some black-eyed peas,
>>> Some chit'lins,
>>> Some collard greens
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=udL0BuZZeog#t=40s
>>>
>>> Fried chicken and watermelon are probably the two foods most joked
>>> about as being foods American blacks worried about feeding
>>> stereotypes are embarassed to admit they like.
>>
>> Well, that got edited beyond recognition. Let's try something like
>> "are worried about feeding stereotypes if they admit that they like
>> them".
>
> On second thought, it was just fine. It really looked wrong when I
> read it, though.

Feeding stereotypes what they like is surely just being hospitable?
Stereotypes might object to being eaten though.

Skitt

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May 26, 2013, 6:16:22 PM5/26/13
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Whiskers wrote:

> Golf was invented by Scottish shepherds who wanted a passtime less
> stressful than watching sheep.
>
Pastime.

Robin Bignall

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May 26, 2013, 8:14:25 PM5/26/13
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So much so, that when the price of chicken in the supermarket had
dropped to much less per pound than beef, it was chicken that was still
the most expensive item on a menu.

Robert Bannister

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May 26, 2013, 10:52:45 PM5/26/13
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On 27/05/13 6:16 AM, Skitt wrote:
> Whiskers wrote:
>
>> Golf was invented by Scottish shepherds who wanted a passtime less
>> stressful than watching sheep.
>>
> Pastime.
>

Past time.

--
Robert Bannister

R H Draney

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May 26, 2013, 11:06:45 PM5/26/13
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Robert Bannister filted:
>
>On 27/05/13 6:16 AM, Skitt wrote:
>> Whiskers wrote:
>>
>>> Golf was invented by Scottish shepherds who wanted a passtime less
>>> stressful than watching sheep.
>>>
>> Pastime.
>
>Past time.

Passed thyme?...r

Robert Bannister

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May 26, 2013, 11:07:12 PM5/26/13
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On 27/05/13 6:16 AM, Skitt wrote:
> Whiskers wrote:
>
>> Golf was invented by Scottish shepherds who wanted a passtime less
>> stressful than watching sheep.
>>
> Pastime.
>

The more I look at it, the weirder it seems, although not as wrong as
passtime. "Pastime" looks like one of the French words to do with art,
pronounced "pa-steam": something to do with nymphs, shepherds and trains.

--
Robert Bannister

Whiskers

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May 27, 2013, 6:05:49 AM5/27/13
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I just let it pass.

Richard Bollard

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May 28, 2013, 7:29:20 PM5/28/13
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On 25 May 2013 19:38:38 GMT, r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
wrote:

>Paul Wolff <boun...@two.wolff.co.uk> writes:
>>I didn't understand this fried chicken thing. Is it worse than inviting
>>an Indian to a curry lunch? And if so, more importantly, why?
>
> The only type of livestock slaves in the USA were allowed to
> raise for themselves was chicken. So they often ate fried
> chicken, which (therefore?) was considered to be very low on
> the hierarchy of foot. Recently, the press reported that
> someone made a remark in this direction (that he will serve
> someone fried chicken) that was taken to be an offense.

A few years ago KFC ran a series of ads featuring the then touring,
and highly popular, West Indies cricket team. There was outcry from
the US and a stunned response from Australia: we were not aware of
this USA-only sensitivity.
--
Richard Bollard
Canberra Australia

To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT.

Peter Moylan

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May 26, 2013, 10:29:52 PM5/26/13
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On 26/05/13 07:19, Joe Fineman wrote:
> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
>> Woods. Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
>> together at the U.S. Open.
>
> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. With catfish for an appetizer, and
> watermelon for dessert?

So all those ads we get from Kentucky Fried are racist? That would never
have occurred to me.

A thirteen-year old girl here is currently in trouble for calling a
footballer an ape. She says that she didn't know that it's a racist
term. Neither did I. Many of the footballers I see on TV act like apes,
and most of them are white.

--
Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia. http://www.pmoylan.org
For an e-mail address, see my web page.

Walter P. Zähl

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May 29, 2013, 3:15:43 PM5/29/13
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Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> On 26/05/13 07:19, Joe Fineman wrote:
>> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
>>> Woods. Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
>>> together at the U.S. Open.
>>
>> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. With catfish for an appetizer, and
>> watermelon for dessert?
>
> So all those ads we get from Kentucky Fried are racist? That would never
> have occurred to me.
>
> A thirteen-year old girl here is currently in trouble for calling a
> footballer an ape. She says that she didn't know that it's a racist
> term. Neither did I. Many of the footballers I see on TV act like apes,
> and most of them are white.


Monkey sounds are a "favorite" (and severely punished) racist utterance
directed at black football (soccer) players here - Germany, but I think
it's used in other European countries as well.

Almost guaranteed to get the game cancelled. (The other are fireworks or
throwing non-ball objects on the field).

/Walter

Iain Archer

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May 29, 2013, 3:42:51 PM5/29/13
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Walter P. Zähl wrote on Wed, 29 May 2013 at 19:15:43 GMT
Is she being punished for others' inability to distinguish "ape" and
"monkey"? Cf (in 2000, in the UK) "Police said they believe vigilantes
confused the words paediatrician and paedophile."
--
Iain Archer

Mike L

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May 29, 2013, 4:48:35 PM5/29/13
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On Mon, 27 May 2013 12:29:52 +1000, Peter Moylan
<pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>On 26/05/13 07:19, Joe Fineman wrote:
>> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
>>> Woods. Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
>>> together at the U.S. Open.
>>
>> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. With catfish for an appetizer, and
>> watermelon for dessert?
>
>So all those ads we get from Kentucky Fried are racist? That would never
>have occurred to me.
>
>A thirteen-year old girl here is currently in trouble for calling a
>footballer an ape. She says that she didn't know that it's a racist
>term. Neither did I. Many of the footballers I see on TV act like apes,
>and most of them are white.

And those often have a healthy covering of hair on their backs.

--
Mike.

Richard Bollard

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May 29, 2013, 8:30:55 PM5/29/13
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On Mon, 27 May 2013 12:29:52 +1000, Peter Moylan
<pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>On 26/05/13 07:19, Joe Fineman wrote:
>> Tony Cooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> The "someone" was Sergio Garcia and the remark was about Tiger
>>> Woods. Garcia said he would serve Woods fried chicken if they dined
>>> together at the U.S. Open.
>>
>> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. With catfish for an appetizer, and
>> watermelon for dessert?
>
>So all those ads we get from Kentucky Fried are racist? That would never
>have occurred to me.
>
>A thirteen-year old girl here is currently in trouble for calling a
>footballer an ape. She says that she didn't know that it's a racist
>term. Neither did I. Many of the footballers I see on TV act like apes,
>and most of them are white.

I was inclined to believe her until I heard she lived in Moe. There is
a lot of racism in Moe and she would have been exposed to it quite a
bit in her 13 years.

R H Draney

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May 29, 2013, 9:34:52 PM5/29/13
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Iain Archer filted:
>
>Is she being punished for others' inability to distinguish "ape" and
>"monkey"? Cf (in 2000, in the UK) "Police said they believe vigilantes
>confused the words paediatrician and paedophile."

Funny nobody ever seems to misspell "vigilante" as "vegetable"....r

Odysseus

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May 30, 2013, 2:59:01 AM5/30/13
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In article
<476995737391547458.170...@news.individual.net>,
Walter P. Zähl <spams...@zaehl.de> wrote:

> Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

<snip>

> > A thirteen-year old girl here is currently in trouble for calling a
> > footballer an ape. She says that she didn't know that it's a racist
> > term. Neither did I. Many of the footballers I see on TV act like apes,
> > and most of them are white.
>
> Monkey sounds are a "favorite" (and severely punished) racist utterance
> directed at black football (soccer) players here - Germany, but I think
> it's used in other European countries as well.
>
> Almost guaranteed to get the game cancelled. (The other are fireworks or
> throwing non-ball objects on the field).

Someone threw a banana onto the ice at an NHL pre-season game a couple
of years ago, during a black player's turn in a tie-breaking shootout.
He scored despite the distraction, although his team lost in the end;
there was no further incident but quite a lot of media coverage.

<http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=589488>

--
Odysseus

b o z o

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Jun 2, 2013, 3:19:29 PM6/2/13
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On May 25, 5:24 pm, Robert Bannister <rob...@clubtelco.com> wrote:
> On 26/05/13 3:41 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>
> > Supersedes: <chicken-20130525213...@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
> > [foot->food]
>
> > Paul Wolff <bounc...@two.wolff.co.uk> writes:
> >> I didn't understand this fried chicken thing. Is it worse than inviting
> >> an Indian to a curry lunch? And if so, more importantly, why?
>
> >    The only type of livestock slaves in the USA were allowed to
> >    raise for themselves was chicken. So they often ate fried
> >    chicken, which (therefore?) was considered to be very low on
> >    the hierarchy of food. Recently, the press reported that
> >    someone made a remark in this direction (that he will serve
> >    someone fried chicken) that was taken to be an offense.
>
> I'm sure the "The Colonel" wouldn't have been offended.
> --
> Robert Bannister

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