Re: California town wants artist to correct spelling
Witziges Rätsel
> LIVERMORE, CALIF. - City councillors in Livermore, Calif., want to
> spend $6,000 US to correct the spelling on a large mural outside the
> city's new library.
Can't people check these things out ahead of time?
Skitt
> California town wants artist to correct spelling
> Last Updated Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:51:49 EDT
>
> LIVERMORE, CALIF. - City councillors in Livermore, Calif., want to
> spend $6,000 US to correct the spelling on a large mural outside the
> city's new library.
>
> mural was unveiled outside the new library in June, revealing the
> misspelled names of Einstein, Shakespeare, Vincent Van Gogh,
> Michelangelo and seven other historical figures.
>
> "Our library director is very frustrated that she has this lovely new
> library and it has all these misspellings in front," city councillor
> Lorraine Dietrich told the Associated Press.
>
> Dietrich is one of three council members who voted this week to
> authorize paying another $6,000 US, plus expenses, to fly artist Maria
> Alquilar from Florida to fix the errors. Livermore city council has
> four councillors plus Mayor Marshall Kamena.
>
> Alquilar told the Associated Press she is willing to fix the
> five-metre mural, but had no apology for misspelling 11 names,
> including "Eistein," "Shakespere" and "Michaelangelo." There are 175
> names on the mural.
>
> "The importance of this work is that it is supposed to unite people,"
> Alquilar said. "They are denigrating my work and the purpose of this
> work."
>
> She created the work on her own time and it sat for two years before
> the city installed it. She said plenty of people who could and should
> have noticed the spelling errors had been around during the
> installation.
>
> True artists, she said, wouldn't have noticed the errors. "The people
> that are into humanities, and are into Blake's concept of
> enlightenment, they are not looking at the words," she said.
>
> "In their mind, the words register correctly."
>
> Livermore is a town of about 80,000 people located 65 kilometres
> southeast of San Francisco.
>
> Written by CBC News Online staff
The latest is that the artist does not want to go to Livermore to correct
anything.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/10/09/MNGSK96KS21.DTL
--
Skitt (an erstwhile Livermore resident)
www.geocities.com/opus731/
Skitt
> I sympathise with the artist. Artists tend not to be great spellers
> anyway, and if the city has had the work for two years it's out of
> warranty, so to speak, and it's really the city's responsibility for
> the errors and their correction. If I were her I'd wait for the
> grovelling apology before flying out to a city which has hardly
> covered itself with glory over this incident.
The misspellings were noted and written up in the papers when the work was
first installed in June of this year. I have no idea in what form it sat
around for two years.
--
Skitt (in Hayward, California)
www.geocities.com/opus731/
don groves
@comcast.net poured forth...
Can she spell lawsuit?
--
dg (domain=ccwebster)
CyberCypher
> California town wants artist to correct spelling
> Last Updated Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:51:49 EDT
>
> LIVERMORE, CALIF. - City councillors in Livermore, Calif., want to
> spend $6,000 US to correct the spelling on a large mural outside
> the city's new library.
[...]
Seems to me that the artist has the right idea when she says "The
importance of this work is that it is supposed to unite people,"
POeople are never more united than when they are in error, and the
larger the number in error, the more solid the union.
Everyone with a serious handle on reality knows that what is most
important is that people agree on the correctness of their obvious
errors rather than on their obvious incorrectness. That's what the
social construction of reality is all about.
--
Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor
For email, replace numbers with English alphabet.
R J Valentine
} Jess Askin wrote on 13 Oct 2004:
}
}> California town wants artist to correct spelling
}> Last Updated Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:51:49 EDT
}>
}> LIVERMORE, CALIF. - City councillors in Livermore, Calif., want to
}> spend $6,000 US to correct the spelling on a large mural outside
}> the city's new library.
} [...]
}
} Seems to me that the artist has the right idea when she says "The
} importance of this work is that it is supposed to unite people,"
}
} POeople are never more united than when they are in error, and the
} larger the number in error, the more solid the union.
}
} Everyone with a serious handle on reality knows that what is most
} important is that people agree on the correctness of their obvious
} errors rather than on their obvious incorrectness. That's what the
} social construction of reality is all about.
Now, now. Looks like you might could use a little dose of freedom,
yourself.
--
R. J. Valentine <mailto:r...@smart.net>
Ben Zimmer
>
> California town wants artist to correct spelling
> Last Updated Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:51:49 EDT
>
> LIVERMORE, CALIF. - City councillors in Livermore, Calif., want to
> spend $6,000 US to correct the spelling on a large mural outside the
> city's new library.
[...]
> five-metre mural, but had no apology for misspelling 11 names,
> including "Eistein," "Shakespere" and "Michaelangelo." There are 175
> names on the mural.
Well, the fellow from Stratford *did* often spell his name "Shakespere"
(a fact that the "anti-Stratfordians" find significant for some reason).
don groves
nos...@dontbother.net poured forth...
> California town wants artist to correct spelling
> Last Updated Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:51:49 EDT
>
> LIVERMORE, CALIF. - City councillors in Livermore, Calif., want to
> spend $6,000 US to correct the spelling on a large mural outside the
> city's new library.
>
> mural was unveiled outside the new library in June, revealing the
> misspelled names of Einstein, Shakespeare, Vincent Van Gogh,
> Michelangelo and seven other historical figures.
>
> "Our library director is very frustrated that she has this lovely new
> library and it has all these misspellings in front," city councillor
> Lorraine Dietrich told the Associated Press.
>
> Dietrich is one of three council members who voted this week to
> authorize paying another $6,000 US, plus expenses, to fly artist Maria
> Alquilar from Florida to fix the errors. Livermore city council has
> four councillors plus Mayor Marshall Kamena.
She should fix it for free.
> Alquilar told the Associated Press she is willing to fix the
> five-metre mural, but had no apology for misspelling 11 names,
> including "Eistein," "Shakespere" and "Michaelangelo." There are 175
> names on the mural.
>
> "The importance of this work is that it is supposed to unite people,"
> Alquilar said. "They are denigrating my work and the purpose of this
> work."
>
> She created the work on her own time and it sat for two years before
> the city installed it. She said plenty of people who could and should
> have noticed the spelling errors had been around during the
> installation.
This is true and would have helped the situation to notice the
errors prior to spending the additional money for installation.
> True artists, she said, wouldn't have noticed the errors. "The people
> that are into humanities, and are into Blake's concept of
> enlightenment, they are not looking at the words," she said.
>
> "In their mind, the words register correctly."
>
> Livermore is a town of about 80,000 people located 65 kilometres
> southeast of San Francisco.
>
> Written by CBC News Online staff
--
dg (domain=ccwebster)
J. J. Lodder
> Jess Askin wrote on 13 Oct 2004:
>
> > California town wants artist to correct spelling
> > Last Updated Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:51:49 EDT
> >
> > LIVERMORE, CALIF. - City councillors in Livermore, Calif., want to
> > spend $6,000 US to correct the spelling on a large mural outside
> > the city's new library.
> [...]
>
> Seems to me that the artist has the right idea when she says "The
> importance of this work is that it is supposed to unite people,"
>
> POeople are never more united than when they are in error, and the
> larger the number in error, the more solid the union.
>
> Everyone with a serious handle on reality knows that what is most
> important is that people agree on the correctness of their obvious
> errors rather than on their obvious incorrectness. That's what the
> social construction of reality is all about.
You sure have got the right idea.
The only thing that is wrong with it
is that Big Brother doesn't live in Livermore,
Jan
CyberCypher
> CyberCypher <cyber...@19-16-25-13-01-03.com> wrote:
>
>> Jess Askin wrote on 13 Oct 2004:
>>
>> > California town wants artist to correct spelling
>> > Last Updated Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:51:49 EDT
>> >
>> > LIVERMORE, CALIF. - City councillors in Livermore, Calif., want to
>> > spend $6,000 US to correct the spelling on a large mural outside
>> > the city's new library.
>> larger the number in error, the more solid the union.
>>
>> Everyone with a serious handle on reality knows that what is most
>> important is that people agree on the correctness of their obvious
>> errors rather than on their obvious incorrectness. That's what the
>> social construction of reality is all about.
>
> You sure have got the right idea.
> The only thing that is wrong with it
> is that Big Brother doesn't live in Livermore,
I don't know if you've been there, but I sure wouldn't live in
Livermore if I were Big Brother either. DC is a more appropriate
environment for that dude.
Richard R. Hershberger
> "Skitt" <ski...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:2t37rlF...@uni-berlin.de...
> and if the city has had the work for two years it's out of warranty, so to
> speak, and it's really the city's responsibility for the errors and their
> correction. If I were her I'd wait for the grovelling apology before flying
> out to a city which has hardly covered itself with glory over this incident.
I'll accept the "out of warranty" theory if artists agree that they
have no say in what is done with the work once the warrenty has
expired.
don groves
sent to the cited author.]
In article <ckknnv$ic7$1...@news.netins.net>, Jess Askin at
nos...@dontbother.net poured forth...
>
> "CyberCypher" <cyber...@19-16-25-13-01-03.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns95825462E...@130.133.1.4...
> > Ray Heindl wrote on 14 Oct 2004:
> >
> > > "Jess Askin" <nos...@dontbother.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >> True artists, she said, wouldn't have noticed the errors. "The
> > >> people that are into humanities, and are into Blake's concept of
> > >> enlightenment, they are not looking at the words," she said.
> > >>
> > >> "In their mind, the words register correctly."
> > >
> > > Why didn't she just say that the mispellings were intentional and
> > > an integral part of the work? Then anyone who complained about
> > > them could be branded a fillistine.
> > >
> > Philly-stein? [The dark beer everyone in the US drinks with
> > Philidelphia brand cream cheese and jelly sandwiches.]
>
> No, light with cream cheese and jelly -- dark beer with cream cheese &
> olives.
Now I understand that Philly joke: First prize is a one week stay
in Philadelphia; second prize is a two week stay.
--
dg (domain=ccwebster)
Areff
> Isn't "one of the best German wines" in the same class as "one of the
> funniest Chevy Chase movies" or "one of the most relaxing Marilyn
> Manson songs?
Hey, _Caddyshack_ had a few funny moments, but mainly due to the very late
Jacob Cohen.
--
J. J. Lodder
> Ross Howard wrote:
>
> > Isn't "one of the best German wines" in the same class as "one
> > of the funniest Chevy Chase movies" or "one of the most
> > relaxing Marilyn Manson songs?
>
> "One of the best Dutch beers" belongs in this category, too, I
> think.
Your error, the correct comparison is 'French beer',
Jan
R H Draney
>
>She also says, "do people bitch that one of David's balls is lower
>than the other?"! Lady, you *obviously* ain't seen many balls, but if
>both your balls (and I'm pretty sure she's got 'em) are at the same
>level, you've got ball cancer! WTF is she on?!
Besides, people concerned with David's parts usually worry about whether he
should be circumcised or not...to recap:
(1) Cheap imitations of the statue, when they don't go the fig-leaf route, show
him clipped.
(2) Signore Buonarotti sculpted him with foreskin intact.
(3) The historical David was almost certainly circumcised.
(Insert "it's a wallet, but if you rub it it turns into a valise" joke
here)....r
Donna Richoux
> And if the mistakes went two years before being noticed, is it possible that
> something has leaked into the drinking water of Livermore from the Lab? I
> mean, "Eistein"?
There's some confusion about the timeline. It was not on display for two
years before the errors were spotted. The article Skitt posted says that
officials saw the errors as soon as it was installed:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/10/09/MNGSK96KS
21.DTL
Officials attending the library's opening in May
noticed that 10 names and one word on the piece were
misspelled.
The artist said the names were spelled correctly on
her sketches, but she got them wrong as she was
doing the piece. She admits noticing "Einstein" was
misspelled but choosing to go forward anyway.
"I just wasn't that concerned," she said. "None of
us are particularly good spellers anymore because of
computers. When you are in a studio full of clay,
you don't give it much thought.
The two years was the interval between her creating the work and it
being installed. What's not completely clear to me is where it was
during those two years -- in her studio? In a warehouse of the library?
Not in any high traffic area, that's for sure.
--
Best -- Donna Richoux
Jess Askin
"DE781" <de...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:672a3122.04101...@posting.google.com...
> When I was 13 (pre-internet),
Wait -- who are you really? The Internet has been around since at least
1983 -- are you really 34 years old? Interesting.
Christopher Green
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:37:26 +0200, Steffen Buehler
> <steffen...@mailinator.com> wrought:
>
> >J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >
> >> Steve Hayes <haye...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 14 Oct 2004 00:17:40 GMT, CyberCypher
> >>> <cyber...@19-16-25-13-01-03.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >Philly-stein? [The dark beer everyone in the US drinks with
> >>> >Philidelphia brand cream cheese and jelly sandwiches.]
> >>>
> >>
> >> I am familiar with 'Steen' for South African wines,
> >> but also 'Stein'?
> >
> >A famous vineyard near Würzburg/Germany. It had already been Goethe's
> >favourite and is still one of the best German wines, IMHO.
>
> Isn't "one of the best German wines" in the same class as "one of the
> funniest Chevy Chase movies" or "one of the most relaxing Marilyn
> Manson songs?
To each his own taste, but the best German wines are at the same time
delicate and lusciously sweet in a way that no other wine-producing
country has yet matched. It's just the official designations, such as
"Trockenbeerenauslese", that sound like a train wreck.
--
Chris Green
Mark Barratt
Since this person seems to be concerned about correct spelling,
it can't actually be Joey, can it?
--
Mark Barratt
Mike Lyle
> "Ray Heindl" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9582A344...@130.133.1.4...
>> "Jess Askin" <nos...@dontbother.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "CyberCypher" <cyber...@19-16-25-13-01-03.com> wrote in
message
>>> news:Xns95825462E...@130.133.1.4...
>>>> Ray Heindl wrote on 14 Oct 2004:
>>>>> Why didn't she just say that the mispellings were intentional
>>>>> and an integral part of the work? Then anyone who complained
>>>>> about them could be branded a fillistine.
>>
>>>> Philidelphia brand cream cheese and jelly sandwiches.]
>>
>>> cheese & olives.
>>
>
> Hemlock.
That's if you know what a cheesesteak _is_. So what is one?
Mike.
CyberCypher
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:37:26 +0200, Steffen Buehler
> <steffen...@mailinator.com> wrought:
>
>>J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>
>>> Steve Hayes <haye...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 14 Oct 2004 00:17:40 GMT, CyberCypher
>>>> <cyber...@19-16-25-13-01-03.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Philly-stein? [The dark beer everyone in the US drinks with
>>>> >Philidelphia brand cream cheese and jelly sandwiches.]
>>>>
>>>> And there I was thinking that Stein was wine.
>>>
>>> I am familiar with 'Steen' for South African wines,
>>> but also 'Stein'?
>>
>>A famous vineyard near Würzburg/Germany. It had already been Goethe's
>>favourite and is still one of the best German wines, IMHO.
>
> Isn't "one of the best German wines" in the same class as "one of the
> funniest Chevy Chase movies" or "one of the most relaxing Marilyn
> Manson songs?
What? You don't like sweet?
Mark Barratt
I notice that your refutation doesn't actually run to the naming
of a Dutch beer worthy of the name.
Not, of course, that The Netherlands doesn't have produce I value
(even some products which are legal in other countries) - it's
just that in this field they don't seem very interested in
competing with their neighbours to the south. Fortunately,
Belgian beers are easy to find in the more discerning
establishments.
--
Mark Barratt
Alan Jones
> Ross Howard wrote on 14 Oct 2004:
>>>A famous vineyard near Würzburg/Germany. It had already been Goethe's
>>>favourite and is still one of the best German wines, IMHO.
>>
>> Isn't "one of the best German wines" in the same class as "one of the
>> funniest Chevy Chase movies" or "one of the most relaxing Marilyn
>> Manson songs?
>
> What? You don't like sweet?
Some German [dry] red wine (too little made to be exported) is excellent,
and there are also fine (and horribly expensive) white wines, some of them
about as dry as wine comes. It's true that the best German wines don't much
resemble the shiraz/cabernet/merlot reds or the chardonnay/sauvignon whites
with which we (in the UK anyway) are most familiar, and that a taste for
fine riesling now seems rare, but unfashionable needn't mean nasty.
Alan Jones
Mike Lyle
> Ross Howard wrote:
>
>> Isn't "one of the best German wines" in the same class as "one
>> of the funniest Chevy Chase movies" or "one of the most
>> relaxing Marilyn Manson songs?
>
> think.
Funny that: as they're so very good at coffee, cocoa, and salt
herrings, you'd think the Dutch would like their other stuff to taste
of something, wouldn't you?
Mike.
R J Valentine
} DE781 wrote:
}
}> Barratt:
}>
}> > No, Joey. You score an E for reading comprehension. The artist
}> > has not been said here to be making any such claim, although
}> > if you look further down the thread, you will see that Ray
}> > Heindl makes the tongue-in-cheek suggestion that that's what
}> > she *should* have said.
}>
}> No! YOU fail! I got 180 on my LSAT.
}
} Since I've never experienced the American educational system,
} I've no idea what that means.
In the short run, it's a back-door assertion that YJ does in fact have at
least the reading-comprehension skills of a would-be lawyer. In the long
run, it's an admission that he does indeed take some advice and may even
be educable.
J. J. Lodder
> Ross Howard <ggu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<9mfsm0pr0ao4u54lr8ddangg
m7899...@4ax.com>...
And no good or bad trainwrecks too.
German wine classification is of the 'All Chiefs, no Indians' kind.
Best,
Jan
J. J. Lodder
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:37:26 +0200, Steffen Buehler
> <steffen...@mailinator.com> wrought:
>
> >J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >
> >> Steve Hayes <haye...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 14 Oct 2004 00:17:40 GMT, CyberCypher
> >>> <cyber...@19-16-25-13-01-03.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >Philly-stein? [The dark beer everyone in the US drinks with
> >>> >Philidelphia brand cream cheese and jelly sandwiches.]
> >>>
> >>> And there I was thinking that Stein was wine.
> >>
> >> I am familiar with 'Steen' for South African wines,
> >> but also 'Stein'?
> >
> >A famous vineyard near Würzburg/Germany. It had already been Goethe's
> >favourite and is still one of the best German wines, IMHO.
>
> Isn't "one of the best German wines" in the same class as "one of the
> funniest Chevy Chase movies" or "one of the most relaxing Marilyn
> Manson songs?
Not realy. Good, even very good German wines exist,
but most German wine is consumed locally rather than exported.
And (Germans being rich) their wines are overpriced for what they are,
by comparison with others.
Best,
Jan
Richard Maurer
The two years was the interval between her creating the work
and it being installed. What's not completely clear to me is
where it was during those two years -- in her studio?
In a warehouse of the library? Not in any high traffic area,
that's for sure.
In her Santa Cruz, California, studio. [1]
(roughly 90 minutes from Livermore)
In case pictures were not linked elsethread, use
www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/10/08/MNGEO95U381.DTL
be sure to click on the small picture with two people
examining the mural, in order to get the big picture.
[1] http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3593960
-- ---------------------------------------------
Richard Maurer To reply, remove half
Sunnyvale, California of a homonym of a synonym for also.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Hayes
wrote:
>Steve Hayes <haye...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 14 Oct 2004 00:17:40 GMT, CyberCypher <cyber...@19-16-25-13-01-03.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Philly-stein? [The dark beer everyone in the US drinks with
>> >Philidelphia brand cream cheese and jelly sandwiches.]
>>
>> And there I was thinking that Stein was wine.
>
>I am familiar with 'Steen' for South African wines,
>but also 'Stein'?
I think it originally referred to wines made along the banks of the Rheen,
before it becomes the Maas. Maas, in this part of the world, is sour milk, as
in "Maaskaas vir die Paashaas".
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
J. J. Lodder
> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> > Mark Barratt <mark.b...@enternet.hu> wrote:
> >
> > > Ross Howard wrote:
> > >
> > > > Isn't "one of the best German wines" in the same class as
> > > > "one of the funniest Chevy Chase movies" or "one of the most
> > > > relaxing Marilyn Manson songs?
> > >
> > > "One of the best Dutch beers" belongs in this category, too, I
> > > think.
> >
> > Your error, the correct comparison is 'French beer',
>
> I notice that your refutation doesn't actually run to the naming
> of a Dutch beer worthy of the name.
You failed to notice it isn't a refutation.
> Not, of course, that The Netherlands doesn't have produce I value
> (even some products which are legal in other countries) - it's
> just that in this field they don't seem very interested in
> competing with their neighbours to the south. Fortunately,
> Belgian beers are easy to find in the more discerning
> establishments.
Don't want to destroy your cherished illusions,
but many of the Belgian beers pretending to be hand-made
in an abbey or small centuries-old brewery
are actually owned and controlled by an unmentionable beer magnate,
together with about a third of the European market for bulk beer.
Very few really independent breweries still exist.
Best,
Jan
Mark Barratt
Interbrew (see <http://www.interbrew.com/>) now claim to have 13%
of the world market for beer. They themselves, however, claim
little more than 200 brands worldwide. Looking at their
(admittedly incomplete) list, I recognise only the following
Belgian beers:
Belle-Vue
Hoegaarden (& Hougaerdse Das)
Julius
Jupiler
Leffe
Piedboeuf
Stella Artois
Vieux Temps
Of the more than 300 (some say more than 400) Belgian beers, this
is hardly significant. Here's a list of just some of them:
http://www.belgischebieren.be/
>Very few really independent breweries still exist.
Balderdash.
--
Mark "Cherished illusions" Barratt
Mike Lyle
> Mickwick wrote:
[...]
>> (The rain hath stopped. Going outside, art thou? Yes, quoth he,
and
>> wanders off across the clipped, quiet lawns of the Asylum to
practise
>> the Brutal Art of the Shovel.)
>
> I very much like the picture that conjures up. Something out of a
> Peter Greenaway film, almost.
With music by the jerk Michael Nyman, I suppose. No, too cruel.
Mike.
Tony Cooper
<la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>
>What was the name of the woman primitive artist about whom much fuss was
>made in the 1950s? Was she African or Aborigine? Mother Someone?
Who was Grandma Moses, Alex?
http://ar.essortment.com/whoisgrandmam_rlzb.htm
I'll take "Hurricanes" for $100.
Mark Barratt
OK. Your answer is: "Sodom, Gomorrah and Miami".
--
Mark Barratt
Tony Cooper
wrote:
What are three universities where the players have rap sheets that
weigh more than the play book?
For the pondially unfamiliar, the University of Miami football team is
nick-named the Hurricanes. The players are known for being arrested
for various things. I might have done better, but I had to respond
quickly to get in my answer before the buzzer.
Mike Lyle
[...]
> In case pictures were not linked elsethread, use
>
www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/10/08/MNGEO95U381.D
TL
> be sure to click on the small picture with two people
> examining the mural, in order to get the big picture.
>
>
> [1] http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3593960
Thanks, Richard. The thing's what British readers will recognize as
"Blue-Peter art": a spirited childish effort. I'm glad it isn't a
mural (why are we calling it that?), since people will walk on it and
so wear it out.
Mike.
Jess Askin
"Chris Malcolm" <c...@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:2tas82F...@uni-berlin.de...
> Richard Maurer <rcpb1_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Donna Richoux wrote:
> > The two years was the interval between her creating the work
> > and it being installed. What's not completely clear to me is
> > where it was during those two years -- in her studio?
> > In a warehouse of the library? Not in any high traffic area,
> > that's for sure.
>
> > In her Santa Cruz, California, studio. [1]
> > (roughly 90 minutes from Livermore)
>
> illiterate.
Perhaps she's a graduate of UCSC.
Ray Heindl
> Jess Askin wrote:
>> "Ray Heindl" <m...@privacy.net> wrote
>>> But what do you drink with a cheesesteak?
>> Hemlock.
> That's if you know what a cheesesteak _is_. So what is one?
A Philadelphian delicacy:
<http://philadelphia.about.com/cs/cheesesteaks/a/cheesesteak.htm>
(Pay no attention to the greengrocer's apostrophe in the first
paragraph.)
--
Ray Heindl
(remove the Xs to reply to: xvortr...@yaxhoo.com)
Mike Lyle
> "Mike Lyle" <mike_l...@REMOVETHISyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Jess Askin wrote:
>>> "Ray Heindl" <m...@privacy.net> wrote
>>>> But what do you drink with a cheesesteak?
>
>>> Hemlock.
>
>> That's if you know what a cheesesteak _is_. So what is one?
>
> A Philadelphian delicacy:
> <http://philadelphia.about.com/cs/cheesesteaks/a/cheesesteak.htm>
> (Pay no attention to the greengrocer's apostrophe in the first
> paragraph.)
My God! If the steaks's lousy, and the cheese is is unspeakable, you
put the two together and hope simple addition will get you out of
trouble. That's what they call "know-how"?
Mike.
Mike Lyle
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:13:27 +0100, Laura F Spira
> <la...@DRAGONspira.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> What was the name of the woman primitive artist about whom much
fuss
>> was made in the 1950s? Was she African or Aborigine? Mother
Someone?
>
> Who was Grandma Moses, Alex?
Old hat; but her agent is clearly a promising Outsider Artist in his
own right, since he can't spell "biography". I'll get in on the
ground floor, and offer him $500 for his choice of any ten pieces
each larger than 4 sq.ft and each using no fewer than five colors.
Mike.
Sara Lorimer
> More pix:
>
> http://www.maria-alquilar.com/3level/installations/3install3.html
> http://www.ci.livermore.ca.us/library/newbuilding/photos/Mosaic.jpg
>
> The introduction to the first site says that
>
> Like many primitive, outsider painters, Alquilar began her work
> after the sudden death of her husband that resulted in the
> fracture of a strong family structure.
>
> I was certain that this was an erroneous, solipsistic generalisation.
> Could it really be true that many Primitivists first took up Art as a
> way of coping with grief?
Alquilar's husband must've been a popular man.
--
SML
Mickwick
>Alquilar's husband must've been a popular man.
Be nice! She's a bereaved primitive. What's more, it's her publicly
stated belief that her words are not there to be looked at (meaning is
to be absorbed directly by the brain), and we should respect that.
--
Mickwick
Mickwick
>A wonderful paradox but how typically Swiss - IME they do like things
>neat and tidy.
They do, and they do like their trains to run on time, but I think the
loony perfectionism is mostly a German Swiss characteristic. I was in
(French) Lausanne this year and saw some litter. Yes! Litter! In fact,
the whole of the central shopping district was appealingly grubby and
rumbustious.
[...]
>I very much like the picture that conjures up. Something out of a Peter
>Greenaway film, almost.
Greenaway's films are Swiss-tidy. The reality was a right Balkan mess.
Rock, shale and clay gave way to mattock, hand-hoe and pressure-washer
in a splatiferous maelstrom of mud, blood and midges. Result: The back
of my house now looks like a real-rock version of the fibre-glass goat
terraces at London Zoo. (If only the rest of it were even half as tidy,
or even goatworthy.)
As it happens, I found a zoo-able animal out there the other day as I
was exposing the rock. Nearly two feet down in wet clay: a Purse-Web
Spider. I don't know if they are particularly rare (though, for selfish,
trainspotterish reasons, I hope they are), but they are certainly
unusual. They live in a sort of double-toed sock buried underground
except for the top few inches. The male vibrates this exposed bit from
the inside and, somehow, this tells him when dinner is imminent. When it
arrives, he bursts through the sock, grabs it, does a bit of darning and
hurries underground to the missus, who is bigger than him [he] and
probably doesn't like to be kept waiting. (I think the one I found was a
female and her jaws were enormous, about a third the length of her
body.) They sometimes eat earthworms, apparently. A skulking,
mandibulous, subterranean worm-eating spider - whaddya think of that,
arachnophobes?
The sad thing is that they are said to live in colonies and I only found
the one - and the rest of their domain has been totally obliterated.
--
Mickwick